Vincent Tan tells Malky Mackay " No Money in January "

So imagine you want to float your company in 2014 and ride off into the sunset.
In the meantime you want to keep costs as low as possible but still keep your company as a salable asset (I don't think a Championship team is very salable).
It's a fine line to walk.

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

Bellamy £35k/wk. Maynard, Campbell, Odemwingie, gonna be minimum £20k/wk each plus £8m odd fees, Cornelius £8m+, Mason, Rudy. I think Malky was a bit cheeky asking for a striker.

Spot on. Plus velikonja

Another £3m odd. Mind you, we could sign Robin Van Persie or Suarez and even they wouldn't score with the service our strikers get

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Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

Can't believe how some fans have been sucked in by Tan and still support him! He changes the colour of our strip, he changes our badge, Sacks one if not the most successfull managers backroom staff,continuously coming out in the press being disrespectful to supporter and his empolyees.Continously brings our club into disrepute yet still people on here say " they can't see what tans done wrong" This overspend is clearly just an excuse why wasn't the questions asked when the money was being sent! Ian moody or malky would have had to have some authorisation from above to spend the money! Wake up people he needs to go asap!

As bullshit as it is that the club could come out with this statement, completely undermining its manager, I really do think we all need to look at what is being said in it. Tan says he gave Malky £35m - that's huge. With add ons, the bill hit £50m - that's enormous. Would ANYONE look at our transfers and say they were worth £50m? Hell, Malky just told us all that Cornelius isn't ready for the Premier League - and you just KNOW that deal had add ons to it too, probably costing us closer to £10m. Bloody insane.

Tan told us he'd reveal all about Moody's dismissal when the time was right, as he didn't want to add fuel to the fire that was raging at the time - now he's come out and told us. Safe to say, Malky must have really pissed him off with his statement about buying new players in January. And if you look into Malky's wording in said interview, it does actually imply that he knows there's no money but he's trying to point out publicly how as a newly promoted team we are playing catch up, etc etc - if that's the case, he's clearly playing a dangerous game.

With all that said, we do need new players in January, and I could have foreseen a £15m investment. But, if Tan's comments are to be believed (which I think they are - why would be publicly lie about a clear financial issue at the club?), that £15m has already gone into the club, so I can't exactly jump on the anti-Tan bandwagon and start slating him for not putting more money in.

Malky has some good players who haven't featured yet. Harris, Mason, Conway - they'd all offer us another dimension. And how will we know they aren't PL quality unless we try them out? Hell, I'm sure the reason he wasn't playing Noone was 'cos he didn't think he was PL quality, and yet Noone has been causing PL teams all sorts of headaches since his first appearance.

This public battle needs to stop though, end of. I suspect that Tan is well aware of how badly the fans currently think of him though, and I can't help but think from this statement that he suspects that Malky is trying to shift more hate his way if January signings don't come in.

I am afraid that Tan is probably a stranger to the truth and he is so jealous of MM. Most important is that MM is probably the first person with the balls to tell Tan he didnt need his help during a match and banned him from the changing room.
Tan is now in the process of chucking his noodles out of his pram.

Malky & Moody Bought:

Cornelious - Not Prem ready
Brayford - Not even getting in development team
Velikonja - Not even Championship ready

How much is that £12 - £13m

Plus then we have Gestede, Mason, Kiss, Conway, Connolly, any more? All signings now trying to be moved on

Would you give this man more money to spend in January?

How has Malky overspent when it was recently reported that we were £4m under budget? Moody stated this on the weekend we played Palace. If there was an overspend Moody would have been sacked and would not have had his remaining contract paid. This is as I've stated before all about keeping CCFC in the press ready for next years share flotation.

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

Hear Hear Wez

Can't believe how some fans have been sucked in by Tan and still support him! He changes the colour of our strip, he changes our badge, Sacks one if not the most successfull managers backroom staff,continuously coming out in the press being disrespectful to supporter and his empolyees.Continously brings our club into disrepute yet still people on here say " they can't see what tans done wrong" This overspend is clearly just an excuse why wasn't the questions asked when the money was being sent! Ian moody or malky would have had to have some authorisation from above to spend the money! Wake up people he needs to go asap!

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

Have you tried writing comedy youd be a success.

Malky & Moody Bought:

Cornelious - Not Prem ready
Brayford - Not even getting in development team
Velikonja - Not even Championship ready

How much is that £12 - £13m

Plus then we have Gestede, Mason, Kiss, Conway, Connolly, any more? All signings now trying to be moved on

Would you give this man more money to spend in January?

Lappin ffs

He could sell some players in Jan but the only ones in the squad I would deem surplus to requirement are -
Maynard - Prob get about a million for him now off a Championship side.
Brayford - Again I'd say a million give or take a few thousand
Kiss - 500k maybe
Everyone else in the squad will be needed at some stage. 2.5 mill could get him a decent winger on loan for the rest of the season.

Malky & Moody Bought:

Cornelious - Not Prem ready
Brayford - Not even getting in development team
Velikonja - Not even Championship ready

How much is that £12 - £13m

Plus then we have Gestede, Mason, Kiss, Conway, Connolly, any more? All signings now trying to be moved on

Would you give this man more money to spend in January?

What happened to being ruthless ? Sell them all malky for fuk sake

Tan wants Malky gone ASAP, Ive been saying it for weeks, its Tan who needs to go NOW.

My problem here annis is if all the quotes in the last few days are true then Malky has put himself in a corner of his own making.
If Cornelius was bought for the future then you can understand tans fury as our 4 strikers to keep us in the premier league were Frazier Maynard gestede and mason. Two have gone on loan and if Frazier goes through his usual injury problems we are left with just Maynard.
Malky then says in the press he needs a striker having paid 8.5 million on a player not ready for the first team yet. Whichever way you look at it Malky has put himself in a no win situation here.

Well he wasted 10m on Brayford and the Dane and understandably Tan is fucked off.

Well at least we know the reason Moody was sacked now.

well... not just for a denied overspend... malky already said the books balance and there was no overspend

its the back handers and bonus' that tan dont like... tans culture sees bonuses from hard work and results, not lump sums and ill see you ok deals before a ball has even been kicked

as much of an asshole tan is he wants return for his investment, cant fault him for that, even though it be high falutin and well... ridiculas

Malky & Moody Bought:

Cornelious - Not Prem ready
Brayford - Not even getting in development team
Velikonja - Not even Championship ready

How much is that £12 - £13m

Plus then we have Gestede, Mason, Kiss, Conway, Connolly, any more? All signings now trying to be moved on

Would you give this man more money to spend in January?

What are caulker, Medal and cathrine worth now.......?
Cornelious will be another Kim...

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

You say he's wasted money the only player we've wasted money on is Brayford.You can't say Cornelius is wasted money yet as hes only just coming back from a long term injury! people writing him off within 4 months of being a cardiff player! People where saying the same about kimbo and mutch not to long ago! What other players have been wasted? Velekonja was signed by tan so you can't even mention him! He's got us promoted ,to a league cup final and were now 14/15th in the premier league how is that not using the money well? I've seen money thrown at managers for years in the championship and its not always that easy to get promoted even with money! What do people want? champions league football?

SPOT ON, Sadly there are still Tan lovers out there for red and fake glory

Now i can see things Tan has got wrong and things that he's got right but the comment above really pisses me off - is it only your way Annis and everyone else is wrong if they do not agree with you

And by the way would prefer blue and been going since 1968 so hardly here for the fake glory.

Can't see why Tan is in the wrong here?

All he has done is respond to comments Malky made THROUGH THE MEDIA that were downright wrong.

I cannot imagine anyone on this forum would go to the local paper tomorrow and give them a story on what you want from your employers without talking to them???

Malky needs to remember the club, owner & fans are bigger than him sometimes and in the last 24 hours he's admitted Cornelius was a waste for our immediate aim and he's undermined his superiors - he's starting to really get on my nerves when you couple this with the crap we have to witness at Stoke & Palace

He has completely undermined Malky in the press , if he's not happy with his comments then do it in house not to the press

So hasn't malky done the same thing ? In saying he wants three new players

How has he undermined Tan , he's been asked a question and said he would like 3 players , what football manager doesn't do that through the press . ?
How many chairmen do you know who come out the next day and release statements through the press saying they will not be giving the manager a penny to spend ?

Maybe malky already knew there was no money in January ?

Tan wants Malky gone ASAP, Ive been saying it for weeks, its Tan who needs to go NOW.

My problem here annis is if all the quotes in the last few days are true then Malky has put himself in a corner of his own making.
If Cornelius was bought for the future then you can understand tans fury as our 4 strikers to keep us in the premier league were Frazier Maynard gestede and mason. Two have gone on loan and if Frazier goes through his usual injury problems we are left with just Maynard.
Malky then says in the press he needs a striker having paid 8.5 million on a player not ready for the first team yet. Whichever way you look at it Malky has put himself in a no win situation here.

He has been in a no win situation since Vinny the Phoo was barred from the changing room. Its that simple ego is a destructive thing.

Tan wants Malky gone ASAP, Ive been saying it for weeks, its Tan who needs to go NOW.

My problem here annis is if all the quotes in the last few days are true then Malky has put himself in a corner of his own making.
If Cornelius was bought for the future then you can understand tans fury as our 4 strikers to keep us in the premier league were Frazier Maynard gestede and mason. Two have gone on loan and if Frazier goes through his usual injury problems we are left with just Maynard.
Malky then says in the press he needs a striker having paid 8.5 million on a player not ready for the first team yet. Whichever way you look at it Malky has put himself in a no win situation here.

Steve, but you know as well as I do Tan is pushing and pushing for Malky to go and putting pressure on him all the time, its hard enough just being a manager in the Prem, never mind having a Dictator behind u and wants u gone.

Tan wants Malky gone ASAP, Ive been saying it for weeks, its Tan who needs to go NOW.

My problem here annis is if all the quotes in the last few days are true then Malky has put himself in a corner of his own making.
If Cornelius was bought for the future then you can understand tans fury as our 4 strikers to keep us in the premier league were Frazier Maynard gestede and mason. Two have gone on loan and if Frazier goes through his usual injury problems we are left with just Maynard.
Malky then says in the press he needs a striker having paid 8.5 million on a player not ready for the first team yet. Whichever way you look at it Malky has put himself in a no win situation here.

He has been in a no win situation since Vinny the Phoo was barred from the changing room. Its that simple ego is a destructive thing.

As bullshit as it is that the club could come out with this statement, completely undermining its manager, I really do think we all need to look at what is being said in it. Tan says he gave Malky £35m - that's huge. With add ons, the bill hit £50m - that's enormous. Would ANYONE look at our transfers and say they were worth £50m? Hell, Malky just told us all that Cornelius isn't ready for the Premier League - and you just KNOW that deal had add ons to it too, probably costing us closer to £10m. Bloody insane.

Tan told us he'd reveal all about Moody's dismissal when the time was right, as he didn't want to add fuel to the fire that was raging at the time - now he's come out and told us. Safe to say, Malky must have really pissed him off with his statement about buying new players in January. And if you look into Malky's wording in said interview, it does actually imply that he knows there's no money but he's trying to point out publicly how as a newly promoted team we are playing catch up, etc etc - if that's the case, he's clearly playing a dangerous game.

With all that said, we do need new players in January, and I could have foreseen a £15m investment. But, if Tan's comments are to be believed (which I think they are - why would be publicly lie about a clear financial issue at the club?), that £15m has already gone into the club, so I can't exactly jump on the anti-Tan bandwagon and start slating him for not putting more money in.

Malky has some good players who haven't featured yet. Harris, Mason, Conway - they'd all offer us another dimension. And how will we know they aren't PL quality unless we try them out? Hell, I'm sure the reason he wasn't playing Noone was 'cos he didn't think he was PL quality, and yet Noone has been causing PL teams all sorts of headaches since his first appearance.

This public battle needs to stop though, end of. I suspect that Tan is well aware of how badly the fans currently think of him though, and I can't help but think from this statement that he suspects that Malky is trying to shift more hate his way if January signings don't come in.

I am afraid that Tan is probably a stranger to the truth and he is so jealous of MM. Most important is that MM is probably the first person with the balls to tell Tan he didnt need his help during a match and banned him from the changing room.
Tan is now in the process of chucking his noodles out of his pram.

I personally believe this is where it all started to fall apart. The players and manager didn't want Tan in the dressing room before games and at half time. Tan does not like being told what to do and this whole sorry mess is his way of getting rid of Malky and bringing in a yes man. It truth will come out soon enough. Tan is a wrong un, simple as that.

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

You say he's wasted money the only player we've wasted money on is Brayford.You can't say Cornelius is wasted money yet as hes only just coming back from a long term injury! people writing him off within 4 months of being a cardiff player! People where saying the same about kimbo and mutch not to long ago! What other players have been wasted? Velekonja was signed by tan so you can't even mention him! He's got us promoted ,to a league cup final and were now 14/15th in the premier league how is that not using the money well? I've seen money thrown at managers for years in the championship and its not always that easy to get promoted even with money! What do people want? champions league football?

We are nearly half way through our first prem season and he has not made 1 start. He is indeed a waste of money. Even west hams owner has said he would of not wasted money on Carroll if he new his injury would drag put this long.

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

You say he's wasted money the only player we've wasted money on is Brayford.You can't say Cornelius is wasted money yet as hes only just coming back from a long term injury! people writing him off within 4 months of being a cardiff player! People where saying the same about kimbo and mutch not to long ago! What other players have been wasted? Velekonja was signed by tan so you can't even mention him! He's got us promoted ,to a league cup final and were now 14/15th in the premier league how is that not using the money well? I've seen money thrown at managers for years in the championship and its not always that easy to get promoted even with money! What do people want? champions league football?

Velikonia was signed by moody and malky ,malkys own words been tracking him since Watford days ,malky should do like any other good managers and wheel and deal by shipping players out and bringing some in simple

In view of what has happened in recent weeks, I honestly think that Malky doesn't actually care what is going on behind the scenes, and neither do the players. I suspect some mischief-making by someone at the Walesonline, blowing the story out of all proportion.

VT may want Malky out, but he isn't going to walk away from the club. And neither is VT.

Unless, of course, Malky gets offered the Spurs job!

Tan wants Malky gone ASAP, Ive been saying it for weeks, its Tan who needs to go NOW.

My problem here annis is if all the quotes in the last few days are true then Malky has put himself in a corner of his own making.
If Cornelius was bought for the future then you can understand tans fury as our 4 strikers to keep us in the premier league were Frazier Maynard gestede and mason. Two have gone on loan and if Frazier goes through his usual injury problems we are left with just Maynard.
Malky then says in the press he needs a striker having paid 8.5 million on a player not ready for the first team yet. Whichever way you look at it Malky has put himself in a no win situation here.

Steve, but you know as well as I do Tan is pushing and pushing for Malky to go and putting pressure on him all the time, its hard enough just being a manager in the Prem, never mind having a Dictator behind u and wants u gone.

Annis you didn't answer steves point which from what I see is correct? Tan does want malky out but he's not exactly helping his cause.

Wez, Uve backed & stuck by Tan as he has ripped our club apart, please open your eyes.

Sorry annis but your anti tan agenda over the rebrand is getting in thw way of your judgement malky has been backed and his transfer policy is woefull you just got to look at the wasted amount paid on players sitting in the stand ,no wonder that tan is pissed off your a business man world you jeep chucking money at a manger of yours if he's wasting
It ?

Malky's transfer policy woeful? He's only taken us over with an initial squad of 10 players, assembled his own squad on the cheap in his first season to take us to the playoffs and Carling Cup final, then taken us up us champions in his second season...NICE ONE!!

Tan wants Malky gone ASAP, Ive been saying it for weeks, its Tan who needs to go NOW.

My problem here annis is if all the quotes in the last few days are true then Malky has put himself in a corner of his own making.
If Cornelius was bought for the future then you can understand tans fury as our 4 strikers to keep us in the premier league were Frazier Maynard gestede and mason. Two have gone on loan and if Frazier goes through his usual injury problems we are left with just Maynard.
Malky then says in the press he needs a striker having paid 8.5 million on a player not ready for the first team yet. Whichever way you look at it Malky has put himself in a no win situation here.

Steve, but you know as well as I do Tan is pushing and pushing for Malky to go and putting pressure on him all the time, its hard enough just being a manager in the Prem, never mind having a Dictator behind u and wants u gone.

Annis you didn't answer steves point which from what I see is correct? Tan does want malky out but he's not exactly helping his cause.

Allan, Malky is speaking out so we can all start hearing/seeing the truth, thats the answer