Bluebirds Unite

Its got to a stage now its all about Bluebirds unite and not about Cardiff City. On merchandise there is nothing about Cardiff City on there. That is strange as they can have our name and Bluebirds unite on tops being sold. It sems some are now more into self image, and fans are now being turned off in droves.

A great idea but it is more about personalities than the objective.

The sad thing is marches etc will not make an impact. The sit in after the jacks game was a good idea but needed a lot more bodies than was there.

But the truth is the club will not be back tracking on this red shit as our future has been decided and red it is, But we as fans can do our bit to protect our identity by not wearing the red and keeping tbe ground blue is the way to piss Tan off. That way its a visual not even Tan and Lim can suppress.

more like a change in his medication





Nukes, that's one of the best 'posts' I've seen on here for a while

I think the trip to America has changed your outlook on life!

Talking of chaff and wheat if your so pro Bu kid why haven't you been on any marches?

Because he's too busy telling others what to do to do anything himself.

Able to substantiate anything in your post yet?

Really, for someone who has been supporting the club since 1948 you should be able to judge an opinion from 'he's telling us what to do'.

This isn't primary school.

I merely ask that if people criticise Bluebirds Unite then they back it up with intelligent argument. Saying stuff like 'its all about the personalities' not the cause is unsubstantiated bullshit. Back it up!

Talking of chaff and wheat if your so pro Bu kid why haven't you been on any marches?

Because he's too busy telling others what to do to do anything himself.

Able to substantiate anything in your post yet?

Really, for someone who has been supporting the club since 1948 you should be able to judge an opinion from 'he's telling us what to do'.

This isn't primary school.

I merely ask that if people criticise Bluebirds Unite then they back it up with intelligent argument. Saying stuff like 'its all about the personalities' not the cause is unsubstantiated bullshit. Back it up!

The problem you've got, is that most fans respect the BU campaign to get the club back to playing in blue, but then BU and their members do themselves no favours by trying to alienate the remaining fan base, in selling & wearing tee shirts with "You don't have to sell your soul," emblazoned on the chests!

It doesn't help either, when their members don't concentrate in trying to get us back playing in blue and ridicule the club at every turn and by posting immature smilies etc!

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Talking of chaff and wheat if your so pro Bu kid why haven't you been on any marches?

Because he's too busy telling others what to do to do anything himself.

Able to substantiate anything in your post yet?

Really, for someone who has been supporting the club since 1948 you should be able to judge an opinion from 'he's telling us what to do'.

This isn't primary school.

I merely ask that if people criticise Bluebirds Unite then they back it up with intelligent argument. Saying stuff like 'its all about the personalities' not the cause is unsubstantiated bullshit. Back it up!

The problem you've got, is that most fans respect the BU campaign to get the club back to playing in blue, but then BU and their members do themselves no favours by trying to alienate the remaining fan base, in selling & wearing tee shirts with "You don't have to sell your soul," emblazoned on the chests!

It doesn't help either, when their members don't concentrate in trying to get us back playing in blue and ridicule the club at every turn and by posting immature smilies etc!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127363

If I'm honest, I think people use that as an excuse to not get involved, frankly because they can't be bothered or they don't have the fight in them. They claim to passionately care, but don't get involved because of one t-shirt that is aimed at those who wear red shirts?

I don't buy that to be honest. I don't particularly like that shirt slogan, but some people do, and so be it. It's up to them.

I care about returning to blue and looking like Cardiff City again. That's what I care about in this topic and as such I'll put anything else to one side.

I think if people are truly pro blue then they would do the same. Some people are just looking for a reason to stay in the pub if I'm honest.

Talking of chaff and wheat if your so pro Bu kid why haven't you been on any marches?

Because he's too busy telling others what to do to do anything himself.

Able to substantiate anything in your post yet?

Really, for someone who has been supporting the club since 1948 you should be able to judge an opinion from 'he's telling us what to do'.

This isn't primary school.

I merely ask that if people criticise Bluebirds Unite then they back it up with intelligent argument. Saying stuff like 'its all about the personalities' not the cause is unsubstantiated bullshit. Back it up!

The problem you've got, is that most fans respect the BU campaign to get the club back to playing in blue, but then BU and their members do themselves no favours by trying to alienate the remaining fan base, in selling & wearing tee shirts with "You don't have to sell your soul," emblazoned on the chests!

It doesn't help either, when their members don't concentrate in trying to get us back playing in blue and ridicule the club at every turn and by posting immature smilies etc!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127363

If I'm honest, I think people use that as an excuse to not get involved, frankly because they can't be bothered or they don't have the fight in them. They claim to passionately care, but don't get involved because of one t-shirt that is aimed at those who wear red shirts?

I don't buy that to be honest. I don't particularly like that shirt slogan, but some people do, and so be it. It's up to them.

I care about returning to blue and looking like Cardiff City again. That's what I care about in this topic and as such I'll put anything else to one side.

I think if people are truly pro blue then they would do the same. Some people are just looking for a reason to stay in the pub if I'm honest.

Personally, I suspect most people don't lose any sleep over the changes, which is obviously a big problem for BU and if it wasn't for Tan's recent blunders over the Moody affair, they would be lapping all things up at Cardiff City!

As I mentioned in my previous post though, BU need to stick to getting the cub back playing in blue, praise the club when they've done something well, like winning the awards for being Club of the year etc, instead of mocking them at every turn, which you did in this post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127363

Talking of chaff and wheat if your so pro Bu kid why haven't you been on any marches?

Because he's too busy telling others what to do to do anything himself.

Able to substantiate anything in your post yet?

Really, for someone who has been supporting the club since 1948 you should be able to judge an opinion from 'he's telling us what to do'.

This isn't primary school.

I merely ask that if people criticise Bluebirds Unite then they back it up with intelligent argument. Saying stuff like 'its all about the personalities' not the cause is unsubstantiated bullshit. Back it up!

The problem you've got, is that most fans respect the BU campaign to get the club back to playing in blue, but then BU and their members do themselves no favours by trying to alienate the remaining fan base, in selling & wearing tee shirts with "You don't have to sell your soul," emblazoned on the chests!

It doesn't help either, when their members don't concentrate in trying to get us back playing in blue and ridicule the club at every turn and by posting immature smilies etc!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127363

If I'm honest, I think people use that as an excuse to not get involved, frankly because they can't be bothered or they don't have the fight in them. They claim to passionately care, but don't get involved because of one t-shirt that is aimed at those who wear red shirts?

I don't buy that to be honest. I don't particularly like that shirt slogan, but some people do, and so be it. It's up to them.

I care about returning to blue and looking like Cardiff City again. That's what I care about in this topic and as such I'll put anything else to one side.

I think if people are truly pro blue then they would do the same. Some people are just looking for a reason to stay in the pub if I'm honest.

Personally, I suspect most people don't lose any sleep over the changes, which is obviously a big problem for BU and if it wasn't for Tan's recent blunders over the Moody affair, they would be lapping all things up at Cardiff City!

As I mentioned in my previous post though, BU need to stick to getting the cub back playing in blue, praise the club when they've done something well, like winning the awards for being Club of the year etc, instead of mocking them at every turn, which you did in this post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127363

I see your point. I think B.U are 100% behind returning to blue. There is no other agenda, it's all associated towards that end. Individual members may think different things (against modern football, anti Tan etc) but then Cardiff City fans are anti-Swansea, but the club itself isn't.

I acknowledge that Cardiff City provide a good experience for away fans, but they shouldn't be applauded for engagement when they do not engage with us as home supporters at all, and surely we can all see the irony in the club banging on about putting people in away club colours to serve them to 'make them feel at home'.

Perhaps what is needed is gentle persuasion not to wear the red. Or if casual try to wear blue. And Gwyn big man take your lovely Mrs out shoping and buy her a spanking lovely blue coat instead. And tell her it matches with her eyes better Or if that fails send her a PM
As long as we are blue we will keep our identity. And all those parents who buy for there kids, sit them down and go through our history and try and persude them to get the blue on. Lets do what we did against the Jacks and turn this stadium blue.

I cannot believe that anyone would be against fans fighting to return you to your blue. Absolutely crazy.

I cannot believe that anyone would be against fans fighting to return you to your blue. Absolutely crazy.

Quite a funny name

I cannot believe that anyone would be against fans fighting to return you to your blue. Absolutely crazy.

Blinded by success and too lazy to get of their asses and stand up for themselves. Instead they sit at home ridiculing people who are standing up for something they believe in. They sicken me.

PS cracking username.

I cannot believe that anyone would be against fans fighting to return you to your blue. Absolutely crazy.

Blinded by success and too lazy to get of their asses and stand up for themselves. Instead they sit at home ridiculing people who are standing up for something they believe in. They sicken me.

PS cracking username.

Choice of the masses sadly.

The masses will always have more say.

I don't mind people not 'joining' Bluebirds unite, or not marching or not writing letters to the club or the paper. I get that people believe in different things to a greater or lesser extent.

I do also understand that some fans are happy to embrace the red and just shrug their shoulders I totally disagree with them, but I respect it's their right to believe that.

What I don't understand, nor respect is people who claim to want a return to blue, but are prepared to do nothing about it, and instead they spend their time and effort belittlling those that are prepared to do something. Honestly, I think that is a very pathetic stance to take.

A kind of footballing scab. They'll gladly take the benefits of a return to blue, but they want to sit back and mock and undermine the fight to do so.

Sorry Cardiff kid but the cause is noble but its just "my opinion" that its more about Bluebirds Unite than Cardiff City. Not saying im right its the impression I get.

I don't mind people not 'joining' Bluebirds unite, or not marching or not writing letters to the club or the paper. I get that people believe in different things to a greater or lesser extent.

I do also understand that some fans are happy to embrace the red and just shrug their shoulders I totally disagree with them, but I respect it's their right to believe that.

What I don't understand, nor respect is people who claim to want a return to blue, but are prepared to do nothing about it, and instead they spend their time and effort belittlling those that are prepared to do something. Honestly, I think that is a very pathetic stance to take.

A kind of footballing scab. They'll gladly take the benefits of a return to blue, but they want to sit back and mock and undermine the fight to do so.

What are they?

Sorry Cardiff kid but the cause is noble but its just "my opinion" that its more about Bluebirds Unite than Cardiff City. Not saying im right its the impression I get.

I wasn't so much refering to you starting this thread to be honest, more the attitude of other posters on here.

I think your post was well thought out and considered. I don't agree with it, but you put the idea out there. For me, there is no evidence that Bluebirds unite is about promoting Bluebirds Unite as opposed to wanting a return to blue..none whatsoever.

I don't mind people not 'joining' Bluebirds unite, or not marching or not writing letters to the club or the paper. I get that people believe in different things to a greater or lesser extent.

I do also understand that some fans are happy to embrace the red and just shrug their shoulders I totally disagree with them, but I respect it's their right to believe that.

What I don't understand, nor respect is people who claim to want a return to blue, but are prepared to do nothing about it, and instead they spend their time and effort belittlling those that are prepared to do something. Honestly, I think that is a very pathetic stance to take.

A kind of footballing scab. They'll gladly take the benefits of a return to blue, but they want to sit back and mock and undermine the fight to do so.

What are they?

A united fanbase, less media criticism, increased sales of merchandise, less disruption off the pitch, a more unified and powerful branding, less confusion over identity.

Our fan base has never been united

Our fan base has never been united

And never will over some issues, but we would have a united fanbase over the colour issue, which is fundemental.

Of course 27,000 fans will always find other things to disagree about, but the clubs colours should never be one.

I don't mind people not 'joining' Bluebirds unite, or not marching or not writing letters to the club or the paper. I get that people believe in different things to a greater or lesser extent.

I do also understand that some fans are happy to embrace the red and just shrug their shoulders I totally disagree with them, but I respect it's their right to believe that.

What I don't understand, nor respect is people who claim to want a return to blue, but are prepared to do nothing about it, and instead they spend their time and effort belittlling those that are prepared to do something. Honestly, I think that is a very pathetic stance to take.

A kind of footballing scab. They'll gladly take the benefits of a return to blue, but they want to sit back and mock and undermine the fight to do so.

What are they?

A united fanbase, less media criticism, increased sales of merchandise, less disruption off the pitch, a more unified and powerful branding, less confusion over identity.

If we went back, there would be a split fanbase because some would want to stay red.
Less media criticism would be an advantage? You know what they say about advertising...
The sales of merchandise is insignificant to Tan. Given time, the sales will go up, and Tan is playing the long game.
The BU are causing most of the disruption off of the pitch. No disruption off of the pitch to do with colour, other than what the BU are doing.
Unified Branding is supported by 27,000 at every home game. Okay, most wear Blue, but everyone is supporting the team in red. (Tan playing the long game again)
There is no confusion over identity is there ? Is there one fan out there that now don't know we play in red and what our badge looks like ?

I say again, what advantage would there be going back to blue, other than satisfying some fans preference over a colour?

Personally I would like blue back, but I think we are too far down the line to gain anything going back.

I don't mind people not 'joining' Bluebirds unite, or not marching or not writing letters to the club or the paper. I get that people believe in different things to a greater or lesser extent.

I do also understand that some fans are happy to embrace the red and just shrug their shoulders I totally disagree with them, but I respect it's their right to believe that.

What I don't understand, nor respect is people who claim to want a return to blue, but are prepared to do nothing about it, and instead they spend their time and effort belittlling those that are prepared to do something. Honestly, I think that is a very pathetic stance to take.

A kind of footballing scab. They'll gladly take the benefits of a return to blue, but they want to sit back and mock and undermine the fight to do so.

What are they?

A united fanbase, less media criticism, increased sales of merchandise, less disruption off the pitch, a more unified and powerful branding, less confusion over identity.

If we went back, there would be a split fanbase because some would want to stay red.

I imagine a very small number of fans would rather stay red, but the majority by a large distance want us in blue. I'm sure you agree that the majority wanting blue and playing in blue equals a less split fanbase than the majority wanting blue and playing in red.
Less media criticism would be an advantage? You know what they say about advertising...

Nope. There is good advertising and bad advertising, and everything surrounding the rebrand and Tan's tinkering has been bad. It's all negative, it portrays him as untrustworthy, dictatorial, ignoring fans wishes etc. There is a lot of negativity in the press about our club, and given our position there shouldn't be.

The sales of merchandise is insignificant to Tan. Given time, the sales will go up, and Tan is playing the long game.

Merchandise sales are not insignificant to any club. They are key, for two reasons; the phyical money it brings in (most fans at most clubs spend around £50 a year on merchandise on average - at our club that should equal around £2m. Secondly, it's free advertising for the club when people wear it.

The BU are causing most of the disruption off of the pitch. No disruption off of the pitch to do with colour, other than what the BU are doing.

Are you off your rocker? Bluebirds Unite came from the fans. They didn't start until this season, yet things weren't harmonious last season. thousands of signatures, thousands wearing blue, pro-blue songs etc. You think Bluebirds Unite created this, or you think Bluebirds Unite came from it? It's pretty obviously the latter.

Unified Branding is supported by 27,000 at every home game. Okay, most wear Blue, but everyone is supporting the team in red. (Tan playing the long game again)

Yes, people are there to support the team, but that's different to branding. The branding is not unified at all. Thousands there are watching the team, but that does not mean they endorse the rebrand.

There is no confusion over identity is there ? Is there one fan out there that now don't know we play in red and what our badge looks like ?

There is a lot of confusion. Lots of jokes about whether the club are the redbirds or bluebirds. A team in red, with fans in blue. Different badges. A blue stadium with a red website. It's very confusing, it's poor branding

I say again, what advantage would there be going back to blue, other than satisfying some fans preference over a colour?

I'm not repeating myself, I've clearly stated the benefits. Perhaps you can tell me the benefits of staying in red as opposed to reverting back to blue?

Personally I would like blue back, but I think we are too far down the line to gain anything going back.

I'm not sure I believe that you care either way to be honest.

General chat I cant agree with that at all. Whats the point you say ? We are blue, and sad to say there will be some that will want the red to stay and I have no respect for that sorry none at all.

they might have x thousand signatures, but the protest at the end of the Swansea game spoke volumes.they are now a very close 2nd to Tan himself in being out of step with the large majority of fans.
Its not all about our colours anymore. and thats a real shame.

With all due respect, the protest at the end of the day wasn't an official BU protest - It was literally thought about by a couple of members who organised it, I know the person who organised it and it certainly wasn't Sian.

The mini protest at the end of the game was a 1st and it still had some coverage and surely that was the aim... The same may happen again against Man Utd and hopefully increase as the games go along

they might have x thousand signatures, but the protest at the end of the Swansea game spoke volumes.they are now a very close 2nd to Tan himself in being out of step with the large majority of fans.
Its not all about our colours anymore. and thats a real shame.

With all due respect, the protest at the end of the day wasn't an official BU protest - It was literally thought about by a couple of members who organised it, I know the person who organised it and it certainly wasn't Sian.

The mini protest at the end of the game was a 1st and it still had some coverage and surely that was the aim... The same may happen again against Man Utd and hopefully increase as the games go along

Bluebirds unite called for all members and like minded people to make their way to the canton end after the game.

they might have x thousand signatures, but the protest at the end of the Swansea game spoke volumes.they are now a very close 2nd to Tan himself in being out of step with the large majority of fans.
Its not all about our colours anymore. and thats a real shame.

With all due respect, the protest at the end of the day wasn't an official BU protest - It was literally thought about by a couple of members who organised it, I know the person who organised it and it certainly wasn't Sian.

The mini protest at the end of the game was a 1st and it still had some coverage and surely that was the aim... The same may happen again against Man Utd and hopefully increase as the games go along

Bluebirds unite called for all members and like minded people to make their way to the canton end after the game.

They actually didn't... Check on Facebook - the group named You Are My Cardiff My Only Cardiff...

I created that post and called all like minded people to make their way to the canton end as I am one of the admins on that page... I shared it with the Bluebirds Unite site...

I dont want BU to fail. Would like to see them grow. But would also like it to me more about Cardiff City than Bluebirds Unite. I would like to see the scarf idea take off but not with BU on it but a traditional catdiff city on it with old badge. Or even better just the old 70s scarfs of blue white and yellow now that would be fooking awsome.

That really would be awesome. Twenty five thousand City fans in Blue, White, & Yellow.

Now that would be a statement of intent!

I dont want BU to fail. Would like to see them grow. But would also like it to me more about Cardiff City than Bluebirds Unite. I would like to see the scarf idea take off but not with BU on it but a traditional catdiff city on it with old badge. Or even better just the old 70s scarfs of blue white and yellow now that would be fooking awsome.

That really would be awesome. Twenty five thousand City fans in Blue, White, & Yellow.

Now that would be a statement of intent!

Rick, Yes hopefully all the money Bluebirds unite have raised, selling their stuff ect over all these months will be spent on these Scarfs ASAP,and I hope the scarfs say Cardiff City on them.

It will be Awsome when this happens


I would like to see Cardiff City on some of Bluebirds Unite stuff as that is who I support, not Bluebirds Unite.

But at least they have been active


But the main protest in my opinion is turning up in person and wearing ' BLUE ' at games

I think Cardiff City Unite would have been a better name.

I think Cardiff City Unite would have been a better name.

Or at least Cardiff City on their merchandise,for some reason they refuse to have it on or dont want it on


I want Our BLUE back as much as anyone, but Our name should always be First " CARDIFF CITY "

I think Cardiff City Unite would have been a better name.

Or at least Cardiff City on their merchandise,for some reason they refuse to have it on or dont want it on


I want Our BLUE back as much as anyone, but Our name should always be First " CARDIFF CITY "

I agree they should have put Cardiff City in somewhere .Maybe they will in the future.

I think Cardiff City Unite would have been a better name.

Or at least Cardiff City on their merchandise,for some reason they refuse to have it on or dont want it on


I want Our BLUE back as much as anyone, but Our name should always be First " CARDIFF CITY "

I agree they should have put Cardiff City in somewhere .Maybe they will in the future.

Ive been asking them since June, you never know, hopefully they will do one day