Its almost anti-football

I'm twisting your words? You just won't see anything different will you. You bias is embarrassing to an extent.
you should be managing a football team with your vast array of knowledge. It does make a difference where you finish as you would know, the higher the finish, the higher the money handed to you at the end of the season. Lets judge cardiff around Christmas, then we'll see a rough idea of where we'll finish.

It hardly makes a difference. I think its 700k a place, so basically they were playing for £1.4m for the club. Its peanuts.

Im not being biased, im talking sense. The two scenarios are not similar.

1.4 million makes a difference when it could be the difference between keeping a player or not, that money could be spent improving a players wage. I know you won't admit to bias, but I've never seen you compliment cardiff in any shape or form, so lets just take see your comments as that.

Im afraid you arent being realistic. If you think a player is going to be motivated to give his all for an essentially futile £1.4m for the club then you just arent being realistic.

Yes we would all like to think players give their all naturally, but if there is nothing really riding on the game i think its human nature to switch off a little. Players dont really perform to their highest standard in friendlies because there is nothing riding on them.

The back end of last season was surreal, it was like friendly after friendly. It really didnt matter if we won or lost in the great scheme of things two 700k payments or not.

I'd expect players to give their all for the club for the whole season/until their fate is sealed & not until March.. That's what they are paid for after all...

I'd expect players to give their all for the club for the whole season/until their fate is sealed & not until March.. That's what they are paid for after all...

Me too, however it doesnt work like that unfortunately. Many of our fans were disappointed but in my view its human nature.

I'm twisting your words? You just won't see anything different will you. You bias is embarrassing to an extent.
you should be managing a football team with your vast array of knowledge. It does make a difference where you finish as you would know, the higher the finish, the higher the money handed to you at the end of the season. Lets judge cardiff around Christmas, then we'll see a rough idea of where we'll finish.

It hardly makes a difference. I think its 700k a place, so basically they were playing for £1.4m for the club. Its peanuts.

Im not being biased, im talking sense. The two scenarios are not similar.

1.4 million makes a difference when it could be the difference between keeping a player or not, that money could be spent improving a players wage. I know you won't admit to bias, but I've never seen you compliment cardiff in any shape or form, so lets just take see your comments as that.

Im afraid you arent being realistic. If you think a player is going to be motivated to give his all for an essentially futile £1.4m for the club then you just arent being realistic.

Yes we would all like to think players give their all naturally, but if there is nothing really riding on the game i think its human nature to switch off a little. Players dont really perform to their highest standard in friendlies because there is nothing riding on them.

The back end of last season was surreal, it was like friendly after friendly. It really didnt matter if we won or lost in the great scheme of things two 700k payments or not.

If that's what you want to think. I'm sure Michael laudrup thought that too when they won the cup. Switch off now and relax lads, seasons irrelevant now. Any footballer wants to win and hates to lose, so if you're saying they would switch off is wide of the mark.

I'm twisting your words? You just won't see anything different will you. You bias is embarrassing to an extent.
you should be managing a football team with your vast array of knowledge. It does make a difference where you finish as you would know, the higher the finish, the higher the money handed to you at the end of the season. Lets judge cardiff around Christmas, then we'll see a rough idea of where we'll finish.

It hardly makes a difference. I think its 700k a place, so basically they were playing for £1.4m for the club. Its peanuts.

Im not being biased, im talking sense. The two scenarios are not similar.

1.4 million makes a difference when it could be the difference between keeping a player or not, that money could be spent improving a players wage. I know you won't admit to bias, but I've never seen you compliment cardiff in any shape or form, so lets just take see your comments as that.

Im afraid you arent being realistic. If you think a player is going to be motivated to give his all for an essentially futile £1.4m for the club then you just arent being realistic.

Yes we would all like to think players give their all naturally, but if there is nothing really riding on the game i think its human nature to switch off a little. Players dont really perform to their highest standard in friendlies because there is nothing riding on them.

The back end of last season was surreal, it was like friendly after friendly. It really didnt matter if we won or lost in the great scheme of things two 700k payments or not.

If that's what you want to think. I'm sure Michael laudrup thought that too when they won the cup. Switch off now and relax lads, seasons irrelevant now. Any footballer wants to win and hates to lose, so if you're saying they would switch off is wide of the mark.

Im not suggesting they intentionally go out with that attitude.

If you have two teams playing and the match means more to one than the other you will find the team it means more to will be first to the second balls etc, they just show more hunger. Its natural. It was this 5% or 10% dip that caused the dip in form.

I mean its not like we lost every game. According to Carpe it was 23 points from 23 games which is probably around a 10% dip for our normal points return.

I'm twisting your words? You just won't see anything different will you. You bias is embarrassing to an extent.
you should be managing a football team with your vast array of knowledge. It does make a difference where you finish as you would know, the higher the finish, the higher the money handed to you at the end of the season. Lets judge cardiff around Christmas, then we'll see a rough idea of where we'll finish.

It hardly makes a difference. I think its 700k a place, so basically they were playing for £1.4m for the club. Its peanuts.

Im not being biased, im talking sense. The two scenarios are not similar.

1.4 million makes a difference when it could be the difference between keeping a player or not, that money could be spent improving a players wage. I know you won't admit to bias, but I've never seen you compliment cardiff in any shape or form, so lets just take see your comments as that.

Im afraid you arent being realistic. If you think a player is going to be motivated to give his all for an essentially futile £1.4m for the club then you just arent being realistic.

Yes we would all like to think players give their all naturally, but if there is nothing really riding on the game i think its human nature to switch off a little. Players dont really perform to their highest standard in friendlies because there is nothing riding on them.

The back end of last season was surreal, it was like friendly after friendly. It really didnt matter if we won or lost in the great scheme of things two 700k payments or not.

If that's what you want to think. I'm sure Michael laudrup thought that too when they won the cup. Switch off now and relax lads, seasons irrelevant now. Any footballer wants to win and hates to lose, so if you're saying they would switch off is wide of the mark.

Im not suggesting they intentionally go out with that attitude.

If you have two teams playing and the match means more to one than the other you will find the team it means more to will be first to the second balls etc, they just show more hunger. Its natural. It was this 5% or 10% dip that caused the dip in form.

I mean its not like we lost every game. According to Carpe it was 23 points from 23 games which is probably around a 10% dip for our normal points return.

That could happen at any point in the season though, if a team wants it more then they will sometimes win the game as a result. Common sense really. I just don't see how Swansea would switch off just because they won a cup. I would say it was more of fatigue and not having a big enough squad.

Well, after we won the cup it meant we had already qualified for Europe which means league position didnt mean anything as we were too far away from the top 4 to make champions league.

The only incentive we had realistically was two 700k payments for the club in a season where we earned around £55 million. We were playing teams that were scrapping to avoid relegation or get into Europe. We were a mile ahead of West Ham in 10th so we coasted.

Well, after we won the cup it meant we had already qualified for Europe which means league position didnt mean anything as we were too far away from the top 4 to make champions league.

The only incentive we had realistically was two 700k payments for the club in a season where we earned around £55 million. We were playing teams that were scrapping to avoid relegation or get into Europe. We were a mile ahead of West Ham in 10th so we coasted.

Win bonuses? Don't tell me they wouldn't be an incentive. I'm sure Wayne routledge tried every game.

Well, after we won the cup it meant we had already qualified for Europe which means league position didnt mean anything as we were too far away from the top 4 to make champions league.

The only incentive we had realistically was two 700k payments for the club in a season where we earned around £55 million. We were playing teams that were scrapping to avoid relegation or get into Europe. We were a mile ahead of West Ham in 10th so we coasted.

Win bonuses? Don't tell me they wouldn't be an incentive. I'm sure Wayne routledge tried every game.

The other team get win bonuses too. Nearly every team we played had more to play for than we did.

Well, after we won the cup it meant we had already qualified for Europe which means league position didnt mean anything as we were too far away from the top 4 to make champions league.

The only incentive we had realistically was two 700k payments for the club in a season where we earned around £55 million. We were playing teams that were scrapping to avoid relegation or get into Europe. We were a mile ahead of West Ham in 10th so we coasted.

Win bonuses? Don't tell me they wouldn't be an incentive. I'm sure Wayne routledge tried every game.

The other team get win bonuses too. Nearly every team we played had more to play for than we did.

If that's what you want to believe, i believe other factors played a part which I have stated previously.

There is nothing to believe, it is a fact. Most of the teams we played had more to play for than we did. Thats just how it is.

There is nothing to believe, it is a fact. Most of the teams we played had more to play for than we did. Thats just how it is.

Like I said, if that's what you want to believe. I think otherwise.

Disagree that it was our worst performance... Although I'm shocked how you confidently can talk about us in such confidence. You literally must watch every Cardiff game

What would you say was our worst? I thought we were appalling in the first half against Newcastle, far worse than yesterday.
We did pick up in the 2nd though but the damage was done

You havent been ripped apart like that while offering nothing in reply surely?

I didnt see the Newcastle game or the Chelsea one however.

Nothing in reply? We had chances to win yesterday.

Nothing in reply? We had chances to win yesterday.

You had a chance to score, i dont recall another really? This chance was outnumbered by Norwich's chances to score.

In nearly every sport from ice hockey to basketball to football - the more chances you create the better your chances of winning that particular match are. The more chances you create over the season, the higher you are likely to finish.

Nothing in reply? We had chances to win yesterday.

You had a chance to score, i dont recall another really? This chance was outnumbered by Norwich's chances to score.

In nearly every sport from ice hockey to basketball to football - the more chances you create the better your chances of winning that particular match are. The more chances you create over the season, the higher you are likely to finish.

Mutch had the best chance of the game. Caulker had a free header. Those 2 stand out to me and should have been taken.

Nothing in reply? We had chances to win yesterday.

You had a chance to score, i dont recall another really? This chance was outnumbered by Norwich's chances to score.

In nearly every sport from ice hockey to basketball to football - the more chances you create the better your chances of winning that particular match are. The more chances you create over the season, the higher you are likely to finish.

Mutch had the best chance of the game. Caulker had a free header. Those 2 stand out to me and should have been taken.

Thats debatable though isnt it. As i said on another thread, it forced the best save, but whether it was the best chance im not sure.

I can recall many free headers put over the bar from close range by norwich, in fact i was amazed by it. There was two off the line aswell with Marshall beaten wasnt there? Certainly one, the other may have hit the base of the post.

Feck off back to yer caravan and go shag yer sister she's waiting legs a kimbo, you might find that more entertaining. Why would a jack tw*t want to watch Cardiff City play football, sad kent!!!

Maybe because we play you next week?

Glad to see the trolls are back going out of their way, going on the Internet to illegally watch us and then come on our site to say your 'piece' on the game.....

How did you play against that random Russian team on thurs? My mates support your boring team and said you were lucky to get a draw... So bye bye little man

Illegal?

This is australia mate, every premier league game live on my telly box!

We were not very good against Kuban, however Kuban looked better than you

they looked better than you lot too

Stats & more stats?
We have 39% possession, concede loads of shots on goal, yet keep a clean sheet and the worst possible result we can get is a draw. End product 1 point away from home and stopping a relegation rival from gaining 3 points.
The Jacks have 67% possession, don't manage too many attempts on goal and fail to score, best possible result is a draw. End product 2 points dropped against a team in lower position in league.
Which team had the best weekend? Us I'd say & playing very poor in process