' OFFICIAL CARDIFF CITY STATEMENT RELEASED '

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why should we be told about last week ? if it was the manager or a player i would say yes we should but he was only a back room staff not even a assistant manager

Tan Sri Vincent Tan has agreed to write off interest of approximately £5.8 million on previous loans made to the Club and stated that all future loans up to an aggregate value of £50 million will also be interest free.

GOOD NEWS????

I really don't know what good news is anymore.

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

Correct ^ I witnessed a worker getting sacked for theft but the employers never told anyone outside the company and the worker in question got a job and moved on..

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

Correct ^ I witnessed a worker getting sacked for theft but the employers never told anyone outside the company and the worker in question got a job and moved on..

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....[/quote]

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.[/quote]


Moody was one of Malky's right hand men and helped Malky with some fantastic signings, personally I don't see him leaving as great news. It's more what else went on that concerns me, there have been some postings concerning Malkys treatment and comments from his agent, I just hope it doesn't affect Malky too much on the field. As I said some positives also though

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.[/quote]


Moody was one of Malky's right hand men and helped Malky with some fantastic signings, personally I don't see him leaving as great news. It's more what else went on that concerns me, there have been some postings concerning Malkys treatment and comments from his agent, I just hope it doesn't affect Malky too much on the field. As I said some positives also though [/quote]
most of the posts were from so called people itk that had no facts just the normal i got it off a source from the club the media got on to it and made a mountain out of a mole hill than back tracked

A key member of Malky's team has been replaced by a painter with no experience.. Everyone has forgotten that now tan has flashed a bit more money at you.

A key member of Malky's team has been replaced by a painter with no experience.. Everyone has forgotten that now tan has flashed a bit more money at you.

at me ? dont you mean cardiff city fc oh i forgot your not a real supporter you wont be around any way in a few months

Who said I was on an out you? Get over yourself! Cardiff fans in general who are deluded enough to lap up the dictators bollocks.

Won't I? What a bizarre comment to makes I'm at every home game thanks.

A key member of Malky's team has been replaced by a painter with no experience.. Everyone has forgotten that now tan has flashed a bit more money at you.

He was interim, the board has had a reshuffle and the head of recruitment doesnt exist anymore as Dalman is now dealing with agents and transfers.

A key member of Malky's team has been replaced by a painter with no experience.. Everyone has forgotten that now tan has flashed a bit more money at you.

He was interim, the board has had a reshuffle and the head of recruitment doesnt exist anymore as Dalman is now dealing with agents and transfers.

Are you saying he's gone then? Because a club statement (I know how much you love those) stated he was here.

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

What a crap example wez. For a start you would need good grounds to sack someone and they would have needed to have commited some sort of gross misconduct to warrant this. There is no evidence that this has taken place here.If the employee appealed against your action then you would indeed have to justify to him and others why and on what grounds the dismissal was justified.
You cannot pretend we fans are just mere customers. We are far more than this and are the lifeblood of the club. To dismiss us as mere customers is an insult to all fans blue and red. Why people want to know what is happening is that they care deeply about the future of the club and the implications of getting rid of a backroom member of staff who has a proven track record and is vital to our future ambitions only to replace him with someone who is completely unsuitable. If Malky is concerned about these actions and it worries him then it should worry us also. To give you an example based on your bar staff scenario then it would be like you sacking the best barman for no good reason and then to replace him with some idiot that drops your glasses spills beer on your customers and is also rude to them and then not expecting your loyal customers to demand answers or ignore them completely. I am sure if you acted in this way then the business would not only suffer but possibly fail to survive.

Who said I was on an out you? Get over yourself! Cardiff fans in general who are deluded enough to lap up the dictators bollocks.

Won't I? What a bizarre comment to makes I'm at every home game thanks.

At every home game....in Tans stadium, watching Tans team and Tans employees......and paying for the privelige.......in some way, you could say you are endorsing "the crazy loon's" decision.

A key member of Malky's team has been replaced by a painter with no experience.. Everyone has forgotten that now tan has flashed a bit more money at you.

He was interim, the board has had a reshuffle and the head of recruitment doesnt exist anymore as Dalman is now dealing with agents and transfers.

Are you saying he's gone then? Because a club statement (I know how much you love those) stated he was here.

In an interim capacity. If the job no longer exists then he is probably doing something else

Who said I was on an out you? Get over yourself! Cardiff fans in general who are deluded enough to lap up the dictators bollocks.

Won't I? What a bizarre comment to makes I'm at every home game thanks.

At every home game....in Tans stadium, watching Tans team and Tans employees......and paying for the privelige.......in some way, you could say you are endorsing "the crazy loon's" decision.

But he wears a blue shirt so hasn't sold his soul

Who said I was on an out you? Get over yourself! Cardiff fans in general who are deluded enough to lap up the dictators bollocks.

Won't I? What a bizarre comment to makes I'm at every home game thanks.

At every home game....in Tans stadium, watching Tans team and Tans employees......and paying for the privelige.......in some way, you could say you are endorsing "the crazy loon's" decision.

Nah, you couldn't. It makes me laugh when people say if you disagree with the regime, you shouldn't go.

If I left, I'd be "not a proper fan".

If I stay, I'm "endorsing" it.

Craig, you've never disagreed with the club then? Did you stop going when Ridsdale ripped the fans off? I trust you did, going by your stance here..

Or is it that you're a massive hypocrite?

I suspect it's the latter.

Who said I was on an out you? Get over yourself! Cardiff fans in general who are deluded enough to lap up the dictators bollocks.

Won't I? What a bizarre comment to makes I'm at every home game thanks.

At every home game....in Tans stadium, watching Tans team and Tans employees......and paying for the privelige.......in some way, you could say you are endorsing "the crazy loon's" decision.

Nah, you couldn't. It makes me laugh when people say if you disagree with the regime, you shouldn't go.

If I left, I'd be "not a proper fan".

If I stay, I'm "endorsing" it.

Craig, you've never disagreed with the club then? Did you stop going when Ridsdale ripped the fans off? I trust you did, going by your stance here..

Or is it that you're a massive hypocrite?

I suspect it's the latter.

When Ridsdale ripped us off???
If you mean the golden ticket scam, im still on the price freeze.....i bought into that scam for that reason, not because he said he would spend it on players. Not up to me what the club do with my money.

Who said I was on an out you? Get over yourself! Cardiff fans in general who are deluded enough to lap up the dictators bollocks.

Won't I? What a bizarre comment to makes I'm at every home game thanks.

At every home game....in Tans stadium, watching Tans team and Tans employees......and paying for the privelige.......in some way, you could say you are endorsing "the crazy loon's" decision.

Nah, you couldn't. It makes me laugh when people say if you disagree with the regime, you shouldn't go.

If I left, I'd be "not a proper fan".

If I stay, I'm "endorsing" it.

Craig, you've never disagreed with the club then? Did you stop going when Ridsdale ripped the fans off? I trust you did, going by your stance here..

Or is it that you're a massive hypocrite?

I suspect it's the latter.

you said you were leaving yesturday ffs make up your mind

so at the time, you didn't feel lied to by Ridsdale?

I'll ask again... You've NEVER disagreed with the club?! About anything?

Mr Tan effectively owns a football club. He sees it as a business/investment opportunity.He employs people to do the day to day business running.If he doesn't like what happens with his business (i.e. if he thinks someone has fucked up the budgets or is not achieving his targets)he changes things. He invests money and expects a return.
That's essentially how it is.
Many of us will have had experience of working in businesses with similar requirements.

I don't dispute any of that... Don't understand it's relevance to my point though.

My point stands, VT may be a successful businessman, but he's clueless about how to run a football club correctly.

Both absolutely correct in my opinion. Football is a business like no other and Tan has learnt these past couple of weeks that he can't simply jump in and make rash decisions like he would in any other business he has owned because football has a public and media audience he can't hide from.

I have no doubts he has not been happy with the results or the way we have been playing football and has tried to put forward his viewpoints which have not gone down well with Malkay or the dressing room ultimately resulting in the players banning him.

With regards to the over spend, he evidently blamed it an Moody and immediately suspended him without checking the facts hence him subsequently being placed on gardening leave. Of course the press got hold of it and having then found out that Lim, his personally appointed eyes and ears had gone ahead and sanctioned all of this with out telling him, Tan simply couldn't admit he had made a mistake, it's simply just not done in Malyasia, imagine the impact it would have on his reputation and on the Berjaya Group

Prior to the Board meeting, Malkay's agent had made a threat to make matters public if Tan didn't. No such revelation has been suggesting that at the meeting Tan apologized to Malkay for interfering on the pitch and for the mistakes that Lim had made but of course there was no way Moody could be reappointed. Moody has received several years wages and will get a new job with Derby, Malkay has effectively been promoted and both Lim and the painter will soon be gone, as the acting Head of Recruitment role now belongs to Mackay (nice salary increase no doubt)

As successful as Tan has been in business, he has faced a harsh lesson in how to run and how not to run a football business. The various committees that have been set up seem to be a great idea and hopefully will keep Tan, Mackay and ourselves happy going forward. Roll on Chelsea

Seems some are missing the point, the painter is no more except in name, the committee will in future seek and buy in players, this is a very positive statement, as obviously Moody carried the can for lim's non action, and Lim will be on his way very soon. I see again that all the doom mongers are out in force, and when VT turns the debt to equity, they will still say there is something behind it there is, there will then not be very much re: loans and certainly not over £50m

This point seems to have escaped most. Moodys role no longer exists.

what ever you say will fall on deafs ears tan is the devil on this site this statement is probably the best thats ever come out of the club ,tan is keeping all his promises so far also the events of last week have been addressed with the re shuffle at board level

Hmmm not 100% on this one, I feel a bit happier that he is writing the interest off and will probably turn the debt to equity, but I am still a bit worried about what happened last week that we definately know about, and also what happened that we haven't been told about?

Malky will also be feeling the pressure more than ever now which can't be good.....

why the f@ck do you care so much about what happened to moody,the club haven't got to explain every coming and going regarding staff.These things happen in football,get over it.

if i sack one of my bar staff for what ever reason i dont tell my customers why its obivious that moody and lim have had a fallen out and both will we gone

What a crap example wez. For a start you would need good grounds to sack someone and they would have needed to have commited some sort of gross misconduct to warrant this. There is no evidence that this has taken place here.If the employee appealed against your action then you would indeed have to justify to him and others why and on what grounds the dismissal was justified.
You cannot pretend we fans are just mere customers. We are far more than this and are the lifeblood of the club. To dismiss us as mere customers is an insult to all fans blue and red. Why people want to know what is happening is that they care deeply about the future of the club and the implications of getting rid of a backroom member of staff who has a proven track record and is vital to our future ambitions only to replace him with someone who is completely unsuitable. If Malky is concerned about these actions and it worries him then it should worry us also. To give you an example based on your bar staff scenario then it would be like you sacking the best barman for no good reason and then to replace him with some idiot that drops your glasses spills beer on your customers and is also rude to them and then not expecting your loyal customers to demand answers or ignore them completely. I am sure if you acted in this way then the business would not only suffer but possibly fail to survive.

i dont see any other club making statements on back room staff ,managers yes ,players yes ,if tan didnt do the rebrand no one would of cared or picked up on this

:lol: so at the time, you didn't feel lied to by Ridsdale?

I'll ask again... You've NEVER disagreed with the club?! About anything?

No I didnt feel lied to. What he said they were spending the money on had no bearing on me purchasing the season ticket early. I did that purely for the price freeze. By attending during the Ridsdale days, in some way I did endorse his regime as I was handing over my money to him. Just as you are withTan during this regime.

Mr Tan effectively owns a football club. He sees it as a business/investment opportunity.He employs people to do the day to day business running.If he doesn't like what happens with his business (i.e. if he thinks someone has fucked up the budgets or is not achieving his targets)he changes things. He invests money and expects a return.
That's essentially how it is.
Many of us will have had experience of working in businesses with similar requirements.

I don't dispute any of that... Don't understand it's relevance to my point though.

My point stands, VT may be a successful businessman, but he's clueless about how to run a football club correctly.

Both absolutely correct in my opinion. Football is a business like no other and Tan has learnt these past couple of weeks that he can't simply jump in and make rash decisions like he would in any other business he has owned because football has a public and media audience he can't hide from.

I have no doubts he has not been happy with the results or the way we have been playing football and has tried to put forward his viewpoints which have not gone down well with Malkay or the dressing room ultimately resulting in the players banning him.

With regards to the over spend, he evidently blamed it an Moody and immediately suspended him without checking the facts hence him subsequently being placed on gardening leave. Of course the press got hold of it and having then found out that Lim, his personally appointed eyes and ears had gone ahead and sanctioned all of this with out telling him, Tan simply couldn't admit he had made a mistake, it's simply just not done in Malyasia, imagine the impact it would have on his reputation and on the Berjaya Group

Prior to the Board meeting, Malkay's agent had made a threat to make matters public if Tan didn't. No such revelation has been suggesting that at the meeting Tan apologized to Malkay for interfering on the pitch and for the mistakes that Lim had made but of course there was no way Moody could be reappointed. Moody has received several years wages and will get a new job with Derby, Malkay has effectively been promoted and both Lim and the painter will soon be gone, as the acting Head of Recruitment role now belongs to Mackay (nice salary increase no doubt)

As successful as Tan has been in business, he has faced a harsh lesson in how to run and how not to run a football business. The various committees that have been set up seem to be a great idea and hopefully will keep Tan, Mackay and ourselves happy going forward. Roll on Chelsea

good post

So Wez gets all his information from the club and its all honest and 100% is it wez, they never lie, make mistakes, decive the fans and go back on their word?
Mate i am concernd about Moody Malky's man, you might not be your starting to sound like Tans main spokesman and i bet your sat there in your red top with your trousers nearly to your neck

You are the ultimate keyboard warrior. I bet you'd shit yourself if you met any of the people you constantly mock on here in real life.

:lol: so at the time, you didn't feel lied to by Ridsdale?

I'll ask again... You've NEVER disagreed with the club?! About anything?

No I didnt feel lied to. What he said they were spending the money on had no bearing on me purchasing the season ticket early. I did that purely for the price freeze. By attending during the Ridsdale days, in some way I did endorse his regime as I was handing over my money to him. Just as you are withTan during this regime.

Still not answered my question though....

So Wez gets all his information from the club and its all honest and 100% is it wez, they never lie, make mistakes, decive the fans and go back on their word?
Mate i am concernd about Moody Malky's man, you might not be your starting to sound like Tans main spokesman and i bet your sat there in your red top with your trousers nearly to your neck

do you ever post anything other than anti club / tan bollocks ?are you a cardiff city fan ? whats the plan if tan with drew his money this week ?

Wez it is quite obvious from your posts that you are a Tan lover. I would remind yoU that they do sell over the counter medication to combat this terrible disease.