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Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:15 pm

How can ANYONE judge a team performance over one season on one tough game?

Roath, Swansea had a poor start to their premiership campaign & turned it around with experience? Who's to say Cardiff cannot do the same?

I have every faith in Malky. He will realise that the tactics used on Saturday won't work & will rectify it. He did the same when we were "found out" towards the opend of last season, switched it around and it worked.

Judge us after 10 games, not one. If its still as bad, then ill start to worry.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:24 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:How can ANYONE judge a team performance over one season on one tough game?

Roath, Swansea had a poor start to their premiership campaign & turned it around with experience? Who's to say Cardiff cannot do the same?

I have every faith in Malky. He will realise that the tactics used on Saturday won't work & will rectify it. He did the same when we were "found out" towards the opend of last season, switched it around and it worked.

Judge us after 10 games, not one. If its still as bad, then ill start to worry.


As ive told you, i didnt judge you after 1 game. You basically have the same team as last year barring one or two and i thought you were bad then. Yes you got promoted but ive seriously never seen a championship like that last year. Your style of play, your players or your manager just dont scream prem quality to me.

I dont think we had a poor start to the prem at all. In our opening 5 games We lost to Man City away, lost to Arsenal away.. then picked up points against wigan and sunderland before beating WBA.

Our oayers did nothing different to "turn it around" we played the same against man city as we did against west brom. Ive never felt so encouraged after a 4-0 defeat as i did against Man City, we didnt threaten that often but looked excellent on the ball. Our success is purely down to the right players in the right system and ive said that for years. People hate playing us because we are frustrating to play against. If the other team doesnt have the ball they cant hurt you and thats something we are excellent at doing, keeping posession.

Malkys tactics are giving the opponants the posession far too often by lumping it forward. You will get destroyed by wave after wave of attack in this league, and they have the ability to finish the moves too unlike the likes of Ipswich and Doncaster.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:28 pm

It's not the same team. In fact, the set up on Saturday was a lot different. Our possession was high at West Ham too. We certainly played well in the second half.. Finishing was woeful, but that's because I feel our striker force isn't good enough, Cornelius aside.

Mackay's midfield selection was very odd though & I fully expect to return to playing with wingers before long. I still think your judgements on us are a little harsh, but then you are a Swansea fan I suppose.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:42 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:It's not the same team. In fact, the set up on Saturday was a lot different. Our possession was high at West Ham too. We certainly played well in the second half.. Finishing was woeful, but that's because I feel our striker force isn't good enough, Cornelius aside.

Mackay's midfield selection was very odd though & I fully expect to return to playing with wingers before long. I still think your judgements on us are a little harsh, but then you are a Swansea fan I suppose.


Medel, john and caulker were the only changes in personnel my untrained eye picked out?

Caulker is a good center back but he isnt one for playing it on the deck and was on the end of a load of ear bashing from williams at his time with us. John looked promising but just a kid really, looked naive, understandably so and Medel - too early to say as that was my first viewing.

Apart from that id seen everyone play for you last season and they werent going to be good enough, not even Bellamy.

If i get proven wrong then excellent but im being completely honest with you, i just dont see how you can stay up. I mean west ham arent even that good. Last year we narrowly lost 1-0 away and stuffed them 3-0 at home but could have won both in honesty. If you thiught they were good just wait until you come up against the likes of Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, thats nearly half the league there.

We outplayed man united totally for 32 mins, 2 mins later we were 2-0 down. Its just unplayable at times, completely and utterly ridiculous standard. I just dint see anything that tells me you are equiped to deal with that.

We beat Man city, Liverpool, Arsenal and drew against Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. Thats 12 points, a quarter of our total and if we didnt do that we would have been relegated. Do you honestly believe you can after not even managing to shoot more than ince in target against a team like west ham?

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:48 pm

TheHungryJackapillar wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:It's not the same team. In fact, the set up on Saturday was a lot different. Our possession was high at West Ham too. We certainly played well in the second half.. Finishing was woeful, but that's because I feel our striker force isn't good enough, Cornelius aside.

Mackay's midfield selection was very odd though & I fully expect to return to playing with wingers before long. I still think your judgements on us are a little harsh, but then you are a Swansea fan I suppose.


Medel, john and caulker were the only changes in personnel my untrained eye picked out?

Caulker is a good center back but he isnt one for playing it on the deck and was on the end of a load of ear bashing from williams at his time with us. John looked promising but just a kid really, looked naive, understandably so and Medel - too early to say as that was my first viewing.

Apart from that id seen everyone play for you last season and they werent going to be good enough, not even Bellamy.

If i get proven wrong then excellent but im being completely honest with you, i just dont see how you can stay up. I mean west ham arent even that good. Last year we narrowly lost 1-0 away and stuffed them 3-0 at home but could have won both in honesty. If you thiught they were good just wait until you come up against the likes of Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, thats nearly half the league there.

We outplayed man united totally for 32 mins, 2 mins later we were 2-0 down. Its just unplayable at times, completely and utterly ridiculous standard. I just dint see anything that tells me you are equiped to deal with that.

We beat Man city, Liverpool, Arsenal and drew against Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. Thats 12 points, a quarter of our total and if we didnt do that we would have been relegated. Do you honestly believe you can after not even managing to shoot more than ince in target against a team like west ham?

The less attention roathie gets, the more extravagant his bullshit becomes. very funny to see a jack eat himself with second city syndrome. Other jacks on here must be cringing. :malky:

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:50 pm

Fair enough, that's your opinion. I expect changes and more strengthening & will judge after a few more games.

It can't stay as it is though, I agree with you on that.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:50 pm

:roll: yeah ok, keep it on topic please young man.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:51 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Fair enough, that's your opinion. I expect changes and more strengthening & will judge after a few more games.

It can't stay as it is though, I agree with you on that.


Time will tell.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:08 pm

Roathie youve run away with yourself claiming you outplayed them for 32 mins :lol:

It was a good game, end to end til they killed the game with 2 in 2.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:15 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Roathie youve run away with yourself claiming you outplayed them for 32 mins :lol:

It was a good game, end to end til they killed the game with 2 in 2.


I think the stats at the time was 5-1 shots in our favour and 55% in our favour. We were dominating, most reports also say the same and im sure .moyes himself admitted it.p. 2 goals in 2 mins and that was that.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:17 pm

"Swansea dominated proceedings for the majority of the first half before a wonderful volley from Van Persie put the visitors 1-0 up after 34 minutes and Welbeck doubled the lead two minutes later. "

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:34 pm

TheHungryJackapillar wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Roathie youve run away with yourself claiming you outplayed them for 32 mins :lol:

It was a good game, end to end til they killed the game with 2 in 2.


I think the stats at the time was 5-1 shots in our favour and 55% in our favour. We were dominating, most reports also say the same and im sure .moyes himself admitted it.p. 2 goals in 2 mins and that was that.


5-1 against you. I had a look on the BBC stats after 23 minutes and it was 5-1 for the United.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:40 pm

TheHungryJackapillar wrote:
He will say anything for attention. Hes gone from a very good poster to someone who just repeats sentences with emotion masking smileys.


Agreed. Roathie, the thing is for months you got abuse for telling the truth. Reality has set in and you've been proven right in a lot of things whereas you'll admit you've been wrong in others. Some, like myself and Polo, will admit you were right and we are now out of our depth and need to seriously consider not only new signings but new tactics and philosophy. Others will instead continue to state you are wrong. You have been wrong on things, so have I, so has Polo and he'll admit it too because he likes a bit of fun like myself but he can easily sift through the bullshit.

Some really need to wake up and if you stick to one account and stop the Jack comparisons as Polo said you'd be a very good poster for this forum, even though you support the Jacks. Just stop the Jack comparisons and make your points using another direction and I think you'd get a lot further with those who just want to jump on every post you make.

:ayatollah:

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:46 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:How can ANYONE judge a team performance over one season on one tough game?


We got played off the park mate.

Had West Ham been more clinical finishing it could have easily been 6-0 and that is the honest truth. Marshall also saved us once or twice and we barely offered a threat. It's time we woke up and realised that we ain't as good as we thought we'd be before our first game. It was a reality check.

No one is judging, people are predicting and thats fine but on the basis of that last performance we were terrible.

Its time you snapped out of your day dream and realised this season is going to be very tough for us, £30m or £60m spent.

The Jacks made the step up because they had the right ethos at the club and it suited their move well. Possession, Possession, Possession - when they have the ball the other team is less likely to hurt them - its frustrating - with us we just hoof it forward and give possession up and we did the same a lot last season.

The difference is we will be punished this season as more intelligent players make better passes and runs and when they do as Joe Cole did and Nolan did and lose their man and get a few inches space they will punish us. Its as simple as that.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:53 pm

Where did I say we didn't get played off the park? I've admitted that in my subsequent posts, but what I don't think is right is that the team should be written off from one performance!

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:58 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Where did I say we didn't get played off the park? I've admitted that in my subsequent posts, but what I don't think is right is that the team should be written off from one performance!


Im not writing them off. Im just saying they were shit and if we keep it like that then we will go down. That's not writing them off, its the truth. Its not just blaming the team either, its blaming Malky for an inept team selection and tactics and its blaming the players for not listening to the more experience personnel like Gary Medel who was telling them to play it simple and they simply did not listen to him.

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:05 pm

*Another embarrassing reactionary thread

Laughable

:laughing6:

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:14 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Where did I say we didn't get played off the park? I've admitted that in my subsequent posts, but what I don't think is right is that the team should be written off from one performance!


Im not writing them off. Im just saying they were shit and if we keep it like that then we will go down. That's not writing them off, its the truth. Its not just blaming the team either, its blaming Malky for an inept team selection and tactics and its blaming the players for not listening to the more experience personnel like Gary Medel who was telling them to play it simple and they simply did not listen to him.


Which is exactly what I said too, so please don't say I need to snap out of my daydream.. :thumbup:

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:15 pm

1 game down and 20,000 stupid posts later..

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:32 pm

Always makes me laugh when jacks profess to know about how we played last season and all about our players. Just how many times did they actually watch us play? I don't think I watched one game of theirs last season, or if I did it soon faded in the memory

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:35 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Where did I say we didn't get played off the park? I've admitted that in my subsequent posts, but what I don't think is right is that the team should be written off from one performance!


Im not writing them off. Im just saying they were shit and if we keep it like that then we will go down. That's not writing them off, its the truth. Its not just blaming the team either, its blaming Malky for an inept team selection and tactics and its blaming the players for not listening to the more experience personnel like Gary Medel who was telling them to play it simple and they simply did not listen to him.


Which is exactly what I said too, so please don't say I need to snap out of my daydream.. :thumbup:


Okay I apologise then Chuckles. Hope you can sleep at night now. 8-)

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:36 pm

AbsolutelyFearless wrote:1 game down and 20,000 stupid posts later..

:sleepy2:

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:40 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Where did I say we didn't get played off the park? I've admitted that in my subsequent posts, but what I don't think is right is that the team should be written off from one performance!


Im not writing them off. Im just saying they were shit and if we keep it like that then we will go down. That's not writing them off, its the truth. Its not just blaming the team either, its blaming Malky for an inept team selection and tactics and its blaming the players for not listening to the more experience personnel like Gary Medel who was telling them to play it simple and they simply did not listen to him.


Which is exactly what I said too, so please don't say I need to snap out of my daydream.. :thumbup:


Okay I apologise then Chuckles. Hope you can sleep at night now. 8-)


I can now I'm not in a daydream :thumbup:

Re: Will Malkys Inexperience

Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:06 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
But I thought you were ignoring me :laughing6:


My love for you is just too strong. :love10:

No, in all seriousness Polo, I took you off ignore because you do come up with very good posts at times when you're not running around the forum verbally destroying people.

:laughing6:

verbally destroying people :laughing6: .barney that,s when he,s at his best :laughing6: top 5 all time classic aamb threads include mr polo running riot.once he had a thread started about him by blazed saddass and duely buried him.