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Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Steve Borley has been a magnificent person for CCFC. Anyone who says otherwise is being extremely short sighted.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I hope Steve enjoys the day on Saturday. He deserves to soak it all up, more than most. :thumbup:
:ayatollah:


Its a pity Bluebirds Unite isn't just made up of a small group of 30 people like yourself with a brain. You might actually get somewhere then. Quality, not quantity. You can take 6000 idiots into battle but if they ain't got a braincell and dont know what to do they wont win the war. Maybe the people at Bluebirds Unite want to mull that over.

Granted, all the events are in good faith and good spirit I believe, I dont think anyone wants to bring malice or bad moments upon the club or the fans of the club whatever their views but there are some idiots casting the group effort in idiotic ways on here, on Twitter often and on the Facebook page according to others as well as the flags at events.

I really don't understand why Sian don't get 30-50 people who are trustworthy, intelligent and have the free time and sit down at a meeting with these people only and get something legit rolling in terms of 'pen to paper' of asking the aims and trying to get a relationship with the club established and so on.

The more you continue to run into battle like lost the sheep the more you'll be picked apart piece by piece as is happening all the time and more and more fans turning against Bluebirds Unite for various reasons.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:46 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Steve Borley has been a magnificent person for CCFC. Anyone who says otherwise is being extremely short sighted.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I hope Steve enjoys the day on Saturday. He deserves to soak it all up, more than most. :thumbup:
:ayatollah:


Its a pity Bluebirds Unite isn't just made up of a small group of 30 people like yourself with a brain. You might actually get somewhere then. Quality, not quantity. You can take 6000 idiots into battle but if they ain't got a braincell and dont know what to do they wont win the war. Maybe the people at Bluebirds Unite want to mull that over.

Granted, all the events are in good faith and good spirit I believe, I dont think anyone wants to bring malice or bad moments upon the club or the fans of the club whatever their views but there are some idiots casting the group effort in idiotic ways on here, on Twitter often and on the Facebook page according to others as well as the flags at events.

I really don't understand why Sian don't get 30-50 people who are trustworthy, intelligent and have the free time and sit down at a meeting with these people only and get something legit rolling in terms of 'pen to paper' of asking the aims and trying to get a relationship with the club established and so on.

The more you continue to run into battle like lost the sheep the more you'll be picked apart piece by piece as is happening all the time and more and more fans turning against Bluebirds Unite for various reasons.


Good post. I have always thought Bluebirds Unite are a group who have a good intention but wank timing. They will never make any inroads now, but at some point in the future opportunities are bound to emerge.

They should play it clever by letting the club stabilize itself and allow VT his profit; THEN take back the blue shirt.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:31 pm

A few interesting facts his wife Christine Mortimer Borley (CMB) lived across the road from my house in Llanrumney although a few years younger we were both born in Washford Avenue , also Steve Borleys first game Cardiff against Hull when Toshack scored a hatrick in 1969/70 was also my first game. :ayatollah:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:40 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Paul, the mention of Borley or Tan is going to cause such a reaction.

There are lots of people who have done good but when they do something bad that annoys a lot of people that is what they are remembered for. Such is life.


Agree with Chuckles below, always so much nonsense from others.... time to show some respect to a MAN who has actually done tremendous things for the club and not let the bitterness take over.

Barry Chuckle wrote:Steve Borley has been a magnificent person for CCFC. Anyone who says otherwise is being extremely short sighted.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I hope Steve enjoys the day on Saturday. He deserves to soak it all up, more than most. :thumbup:
:ayatollah:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:46 pm

CardiffBatman888 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Paul, the mention of Borley or Tan is going to cause such a reaction.

There are lots of people who have done good but when they do something bad that annoys a lot of people that is what they are remembered for. Such is life.


Agree with Chuckles below, always so much nonsense from others.... time to show some respect to a MAN who has actually done tremendous things for the club and not let the bitterness take over.

Barry Chuckle wrote:Steve Borley has been a magnificent person for CCFC. Anyone who says otherwise is being extremely short sighted.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I hope Steve enjoys the day on Saturday. He deserves to soak it all up, more than most. :thumbup:
:ayatollah:


People always remember the bad things more than the good. That's all I'm saying here.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:53 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Steve Borley has been a magnificent person for CCFC. Anyone who says otherwise is being extremely short sighted.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I hope Steve enjoys the day on Saturday. He deserves to soak it all up, more than most. :thumbup:
:ayatollah:


Its a pity Bluebirds Unite isn't just made up of a small group of 30 people like yourself with a brain. You might actually get somewhere then. Quality, not quantity. You can take 6000 idiots into battle but if they ain't got a braincell and dont know what to do they wont win the war. Maybe the people at Bluebirds Unite want to mull that over.

Granted, all the events are in good faith and good spirit I believe, I dont think anyone wants to bring malice or bad moments upon the club or the fans of the club whatever their views but there are some idiots casting the group effort in idiotic ways on here, on Twitter often and on the Facebook page according to others as well as the flags at events.

I really don't understand why Sian don't get 30-50 people who are trustworthy, intelligent and have the free time and sit down at a meeting with these people only and get something legit rolling in terms of 'pen to paper' of asking the aims and trying to get a relationship with the club established and so on.

The more you continue to run into battle like lost the sheep the more you'll be picked apart piece by piece as is happening all the time and more and more fans turning against Bluebirds Unite for various reasons.


Good post. I have always thought Bluebirds Unite are a group who have a good intention but wank timing. They will never make any inroads now, but at some point in the future opportunities are bound to emerge.

They should play it clever by letting the club stabilize itself and allow VT his profit; THEN take back the blue shirt.


Exactlly, its what I've been saying from the start. I would take us in red for a few seasons untill the club is healthy and then go full out to get blue back. Though there is nothing wrong with keeping the blue argument relevant

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:44 am

Hofmeister wrote:Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

:ayatollah:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:10 am

JonCCFC wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

:ayatollah:


Jon you buy the rebrand merchandise so you cant claim to be against it. Tan sees you in his new rebrand kit with the rebrand badge and he knows you like the rebrand.

:ayatollah:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:05 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:Steve Borley has been a magnificent person for CCFC. Anyone who says otherwise is being extremely short sighted.

YES, I disagree massively with the rebrand & with Steve's opinion on it all, but to see some of the nonsense posted on here about him, is scandalous.

I hope Steve enjoys the day on Saturday. He deserves to soak it all up, more than most. :thumbup:
:ayatollah:

I have to agree chucks :malky:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:11 am

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

:ayatollah:


Jon you buy the rebrand merchandise so you cant claim to be against it. Tan sees you in his new rebrand kit with the rebrand badge and he knows you like the rebrand.

:ayatollah:


JB would you say those that have renewed their ST can't claim to be against it?

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:42 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

:ayatollah:


Jon you buy the rebrand merchandise so you cant claim to be against it. Tan sees you in his new rebrand kit with the rebrand badge and he knows you like the rebrand.

:ayatollah:

I bought the blue away shirt because I'm a blue, nothing more, nothing less.

Can't wait to buy the new one next month. :thumbup:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:26 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

:ayatollah:


Jon you buy the rebrand merchandise so you cant claim to be against it. Tan sees you in his new rebrand kit with the rebrand badge and he knows you like the rebrand.

:ayatollah:

I bought the blue away shirt because I'm a blue, nothing more, nothing less.

Can't wait to buy the new one next month. :thumbup:


Could have just bought an always be blue t shirt or similar which shows your against the rebrand not moaning about the rebrand then buying a shirt with the rebranded badge on it.. Saying you only wear it because its blue makes no difference and is a crap excuse to wear it.. Hypocrite comes to mind :thumbup:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:37 am

Bluebird 37 wrote:Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

That's blatantly not true Ellis .

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:40 am

steve borley wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

That's blatantly not true Ellis .


As Malky just said in the press conference Steve, its about looking forward, not backwards this season

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:44 am

Exactly Gavin, we are entering a new period of history and a new challenge on a journey into the unknown

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:22 pm

steve borley wrote:Exactly Gavin, we are entering a new period of history and a new challenge on a journey into the unknown


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:29 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:JB would you say those that have renewed their ST can't claim to be against it?


If i'm being honest Baked and I don't want you or anyone else to take this the wrong way, the only people I see or believe are 100% wholeheartedly against it are those that walk away and boycott and refuse to return until the club is back to its traditional ways.

People who still go still are paying and putting money into the club and therefore are supporting the rebrand in its own right because the rebrand is now, unfortunately, a part of the club. I think if more people just boycotted then it would have proved a point and especially would have done last year as we were still in the Championship.

Unfortunately, even if Bluebirds Unite could organise a boycott for one game, with us being Premier League now there will always be someone willing to jump in the seats so the next plan of action is hard.

There only course of action now is really to organise a boycott during a televised game and talk to the media and explain why. The coverage from the media would make the cause more known and support would whip up in the media. The Man City game really should have been boycotted and fans should have talked to Sky and used their presence as a platform to make a point.

I dont think a boycott would ever happen though and for that reason i dont think anything will be truly achieved.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:43 pm

steve borley wrote:Exactly Gavin, we are entering a new period of history and a new challenge on a journey into the unknown

We've always been doing that, only now it's less 'we' and more 'them'. sad times.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:47 pm

steve borley wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

That's blatantly not true Ellis .


isn't this nutter Ellis on the Bu committee,shame on them.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:49 pm

Hes on the BU commitee?

Dear lord, they really need to get shot as hes the reason many people are turning away from BU on here.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:57 pm

kojak wrote:
steve borley wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

That's blatantly not true Ellis .


isn't this nutter Ellis on the Bu committee,shame on them.

:happy1:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:21 pm

kojak wrote:
steve borley wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

That's blatantly not true Ellis .


isn't this nutter Ellis on the Bu committee,shame on them.


If this is true Bu are digging their own grave and the sooner the better for all of us.

:malky:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:26 pm

redordead wrote:
kojak wrote:
steve borley wrote:
Bluebird 37 wrote:Watch Borley on twitter daily slags of BU and never sticks up for the blue

That's blatantly not true Ellis .


isn't this nutter Ellis on the Bu committee,shame on them.


If this is true Bu are digging their own grave and the sooner the better for all of us.

:malky:

us? Who do you mean by 'us'? You and your abusive alter ego Spartacus? :lol:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:04 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:JB would you say those that have renewed their ST can't claim to be against it?


If i'm being honest Baked and I don't want you or anyone else to take this the wrong way, the only people I see or believe are 100% wholeheartedly against it are those that walk away and boycott and refuse to return until the club is back to its traditional ways.

People who still go still are paying and putting money into the club and therefore are supporting the rebrand in its own right because the rebrand is now, unfortunately, a part of the club. I think if more people just boycotted then it would have proved a point and especially would have done last year as we were still in the Championship.

Unfortunately, even if Bluebirds Unite could organise a boycott for one game, with us being Premier League now there will always be someone willing to jump in the seats so the next plan of action is hard.

There only course of action now is really to organise a boycott during a televised game and talk to the media and explain why. The coverage from the media would make the cause more known and support would whip up in the media. The Man City game really should have been boycotted and fans should have talked to Sky and used their presence as a platform to make a point.

I dont think a boycott would ever happen though and for that reason i dont think anything will be truly achieved.

totally agree,if you renewed season ticket you are buying into the rebrand.
it no good going on forums and moaning that you are against wat tan is doing then going down an renewing.
all tan can see is season tickets are sold out for the coming year with a waiting list for future ones.
i never renewed last season or got one this season,not just because of the rebrand although it was one point
i just stopped enjoying going,no atmosphere,heavy handed stewards,fans taken advantage off, a number of issues really
there was a march against ridsdale,and i cant understand why one was not done when the rebrand first happened,to late now

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:15 pm

sleepers wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:JB would you say those that have renewed their ST can't claim to be against it?


If i'm being honest Baked and I don't want you or anyone else to take this the wrong way, the only people I see or believe are 100% wholeheartedly against it are those that walk away and boycott and refuse to return until the club is back to its traditional ways.

People who still go still are paying and putting money into the club and therefore are supporting the rebrand in its own right because the rebrand is now, unfortunately, a part of the club. I think if more people just boycotted then it would have proved a point and especially would have done last year as we were still in the Championship.

Unfortunately, even if Bluebirds Unite could organise a boycott for one game, with us being Premier League now there will always be someone willing to jump in the seats so the next plan of action is hard.

There only course of action now is really to organise a boycott during a televised game and talk to the media and explain why. The coverage from the media would make the cause more known and support would whip up in the media. The Man City game really should have been boycotted and fans should have talked to Sky and used their presence as a platform to make a point.

I dont think a boycott would ever happen though and for that reason i dont think anything will be truly achieved.

totally agree,if you renewed season ticket you are buying into the rebrand.
it no good going on forums and moaning that you are against wat tan is doing then going down an renewing.
all tan can see is season tickets are sold out for the coming year with a waiting list for future ones.
i never renewed last season or got one this season,not just because of the rebrand although it was one point
i just stopped enjoying going,no atmosphere,heavy handed stewards,fans taken advantage off, a number of issues really
there was a march against ridsdale,and i cant understand why one was not done when the rebrand first happened,to late now


There's no point in indivuduals boycotting solo, A boycott must be organised as a group or It's pointless.I wont go because i can not emotionally connect with a red cardiff side even for 90 minutes. Those still attending can influence culture, mood and opinion of those around them in the ground. I think Tan would love the minority to boycott solo, He wouldn't be so happy about an all blue stand or stadium. Those who can stomach the rebrand should keep going and resist the red in my view.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:28 pm

Real_Blue_Really wrote:
sleepers wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:JB would you say those that have renewed their ST can't claim to be against it?


If i'm being honest Baked and I don't want you or anyone else to take this the wrong way, the only people I see or believe are 100% wholeheartedly against it are those that walk away and boycott and refuse to return until the club is back to its traditional ways.

People who still go still are paying and putting money into the club and therefore are supporting the rebrand in its own right because the rebrand is now, unfortunately, a part of the club. I think if more people just boycotted then it would have proved a point and especially would have done last year as we were still in the Championship.

Unfortunately, even if Bluebirds Unite could organise a boycott for one game, with us being Premier League now there will always be someone willing to jump in the seats so the next plan of action is hard.

There only course of action now is really to organise a boycott during a televised game and talk to the media and explain why. The coverage from the media would make the cause more known and support would whip up in the media. The Man City game really should have been boycotted and fans should have talked to Sky and used their presence as a platform to make a point.

I dont think a boycott would ever happen though and for that reason i dont think anything will be truly achieved.

totally agree,if you renewed season ticket you are buying into the rebrand.
it no good going on forums and moaning that you are against wat tan is doing then going down an renewing.
all tan can see is season tickets are sold out for the coming year with a waiting list for future ones.
i never renewed last season or got one this season,not just because of the rebrand although it was one point
i just stopped enjoying going,no atmosphere,heavy handed stewards,fans taken advantage off, a number of issues really
there was a march against ridsdale,and i cant understand why one was not done when the rebrand first happened,to late now


There's no point in indivuduals boycotting solo, A boycott must be organised as a group or It's pointless.I wont go because i can not emotionally connect with a red cardiff side even for 90 minutes. Those still attending can influence culture, mood and opinion of those around them in the ground. I think Tan would love the minority to boycott solo, He wouldn't be so happy about an all blue stand or stadium. Those who can stomach the rebrand should keep going and resist the red in my view.

not disputing what your saying real blue,but the time to do some sort of boycott or anything was last season,and before anyone says they did not want to upset the team or anything if you are really adament about something you organise
something.
if people who are dead against the rebrand had enough time to boycott season tickets but renewed straight away,
good luck to the fans on the bu march,but straight after the march there be going to the match with the seaon tickets
they purchased in the closed season.
tan will not care because he has already had there money,

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:44 pm

I still think Tans view can soften if we persistenly demonstrate in a peaceful and respectful way. Those who say he won't change, I've never met any man who hasn't or wouldn't change his mind. If we roll over passively he won't change, but what is the harm in fighting for what you hold dear?

However if Tan won't budge, all is not lost we can still affect future changes.

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:52 pm

[quote="Real_Blue_Really"]I still think Tans view can soften if we persistenly demonstrate in a peaceful and respectful way. Those who say he won't change, I've never met any man who hasn't or wouldn't change his mind. If we roll over passively he won't change, but what is the harm in fighting for what you hold dear?

However if Tan won't budge, all is not lost we can still affect future changes.[/quote
i think we as fans have lost the fight against the rebrand,but agree with you about future changes,if he
does try and change the name of the club then the fans need to meet him head on.
before anyone says he is not i said IF

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:29 pm

Jinks wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:Steve Borley says: “It’s crucial we all stick together, fans, directors, staff, players and everybody who loves our club."

Yeah right, by mocking supporters who don't agree with changing colours & crest, destroying the identity of our football club?
By supporting a man, whose actions cause a huge divide amongst our supporters?
By supporting an unnecessary rebrand that drove people out? People who're Cardiff City to the core, people who would give almost all for their beloved club?!?!

I once had a lot of respect for you, Mr. Borley...

:ayatollah:


Jon you buy the rebrand merchandise so you cant claim to be against it. Tan sees you in his new rebrand kit with the rebrand badge and he knows you like the rebrand.

:ayatollah:

I bought the blue away shirt because I'm a blue, nothing more, nothing less.

Can't wait to buy the new one next month. :thumbup:


Could have just bought an always be blue t shirt or similar which shows your against the rebrand not moaning about the rebrand then buying a shirt with the rebranded badge on it.. Saying you only wear it because its blue makes no difference and is a crap excuse to wear it.. Hypocrite comes to mind :thumbup:

I'm against the change of colour but I'm not against a change of badge (even though I don't like the new badge).

Therefore I will buy the new blue shirt, like I have done every season since I started watching City. :thumbup:

Re: Steve Borley's amazing journey with CCFC

Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:48 pm

Bluebird 37 is that Ellis from the BU? Oh ffs. :lol: