Sian Branson of Bluebirds Unite spks out & ask for all fans

Why was this not done a year ago ?

Because the people who are now BU could see the success that Mr Tan's money was bringing to the club and wanted that more than the return of the blue kit.

Guaranteed, once the reality of life in the Premier League sets in and City go on a run of bad results (heaven forbid) the BUs will claim ever more loudly that the only way the club can return to winning ways is to return to playing in blue.

I'm sure but there more to it than that ?
As I said , genuine questions and hopefully reasoned debate (which may actually entice a new member for BU). I'm doubting it because I have yet to reasoned arguments.

No probs pal , I'm not looking for an argument

It's the BUs that are.

That's antagonizing , no need for it.
I'm really not on any side , but comments like that are unnecessary.

Debate , don't make unnecessary comments !

I only asked for answers to my original questions to get an insight.
I really didn't know there was a BU march last season , so I'm getting educated.

I haven't seen factgasm engage in any debate. He posts outrageous statements and waits for people to bite. I'm stupid enough to do it sometimes.

I'm afraid that's the nature of the internet.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

As I see it people want to stand up for the true identity of the club and its about time somebody did its well over due .

Any other fans of any other clubs would do the same .If Tan dont like it he should never of rebranded us for us all to just roll over would have never of happened.

Thanks for the money Tan and all the things that have benifited CCFC but not the rebrand will be Tans down fall never got why he did it didnt need to

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Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

I remember something now Baz , were BU threatned ?
Is that why there were no "protests" then ? I was gonna type "celebrations of blue" rather than "protests" , but which ever way I say it seems to antagonise some one.

Is that the answer to all my questions ? They were bullied ?

What a bunch of scared little children you are. Im female and have bigger balls than you scared kids. Time you grew some

Ladyboy???

As I see it people want to stand up for the true identity of the club and its about time somebody did its well over due .

Any other fans of any other clubs would do the same .If Tan dont like it he should never of rebranded us for us all to just roll over would have never of happened.

Thanks for the money Tan and all the things that have benifited CCFC but not the rebrand will be Tans down fall never got why he did it didnt need to

This is the sort of question I'm getting at. You said "Thanks for the money Tan and all the things that have benifited CCFC"
, so where do we stand. Are we thanking him or hating him ?
I don't know the answer !

Do any BU supporters think that their replies on this thread, and a couple of other threads, are going to entice any reasoned minded waiverers to join in their celebration?

They can't answer reasonable questions and just try to belittle and twist the words of sensible posters.

Take a look at yourselves, it's embarrasing.

What a bunch of scared little children you are. Im female and have bigger balls than you scared kids. Time you grew some

Ladyboy???

There was a meeting at the municipal club on City Road. I didn't go, but it's widely reported that people who did were bullied by a well known 'pro red' who's name does not need mentioning.

Bluebirds Unite didn't exist then, but it nipped the initial protests at the loss of our identity in the bud.

Do any BU supporters think that their replies on this thread, and a couple of other threads, are going to entice any reasoned minded waiverers to join in their celebration?

They can't answer reasonable questions and just try to belittle and twist the words of sensible posters.

Take a look at yourselves, it's embarrasing.

I'm sorry mate. I'm not on anyone's side , but we must give them chance to answer.
I say this in relation to my questions , sorry if you were intimating earlier postings.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

I remember something now Baz , were BU threatned ?
Is that why there were no "protests" then ? I was gonna type "celebrations of blue" rather than "protests" , but which ever way I say it seems to antagonise some one.

Is that the answer to all my questions ? They were bullied ?

Nope. The KCB was disrupted where members were threatened. In fairness, that night, I believe that there were insults thrown the other way too... But no threats.

The lad who tried to organise a march was intimidated, mocked and ridiculed online, to the point where he withdrew any support to the organising of the event.

I was given a friendly "warning" and have been continuously mocked/intimidated by some for my organising of a petition and open meeting.

What a bunch of scared little children you are. Im female and have bigger balls than you scared kids. Time you grew some

Ladyboy???

There was a meeting at the municipal club on City Road. I didn't go, but it's widely reported that people who did were bullied by a well known 'pro red' who's name does not need mentioning.

Bluebirds Unite didn't exist then, but it nipped the initial protests at the loss of our identity in the bud.

This will sound silly , but you're saying in the history of this "Billy no bollocks" actually became "Billy big bollocks".
So , the people standing up now were too scared to do it before ? Who were they scared of ? Why aren't they scared of them anymore ?

This is intriguing !

Please can we keep this a sensible debate , no need to slag off others

Do any BU supporters think that their replies on this thread, and a couple of other threads, are going to entice any reasoned minded waiverers to join in their celebration?

They can't answer reasonable questions and just try to belittle and twist the words of sensible posters.

Take a look at yourselves, it's embarrasing.

I'm sorry mate. I'm not on anyone's side , but we must give them chance to answer.
I say this in relation to my questions , sorry if you were intimating earlier postings.

No problem with you mate, you're asking genuine questions which are ignored as it does not suit the BU agenda.

I normally have a problem with the Chuckmeister but in fairness his responses have been reasonable. It's the small mindedness of a few on the thread, Cardiffkid especially, which dismay me.

What a bunch of scared little children you are. Im female and have bigger balls than you scared kids. Time you grew some

Ladyboy???

There was a meeting at the municipal club on City Road. I didn't go, but it's widely reported that people who did were bullied by a well known 'pro red' who's name does not need mentioning.

Bluebirds Unite didn't exist then, but it nipped the initial protests at the loss of our identity in the bud.

This will sound silly , but you're saying in the history of this "Billy no bollocks" actually became "Billy big bollocks".
So , the people standing up now were too scared to do it before ? Who were they scared of ? Why aren't they scared of them anymore ?

This is intriguing !

Please can we keep this a sensible debate , no need to slag off others

I don't know mate. I can only speak from personal experience, and I wasn't at the Muni meeting (I wish I had been though).

I tolerated the rebrand at first. It's only the systematic eradication of our club's identity since then (hardly ever wearing blue, lack of blue clobber on sale, scarf gate, Tan not compromising one bit, bluebirds rarely being mentioned etc) and then the vitriolic anti-blues on here that have swung me behind the Bluebirds Unite cause in recent months.

I think people's views have become more entrenched, everyone has given it time (which is sensible after any change) and are now pretty firm that they don't like the rebrand, and aren't afraid to show it.

I love Cardiff City, I hate bullies and I believe in standing up for what you believe in, so I've become increasingly pro-blue

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

I remember something now Baz , were BU threatned ?
Is that why there were no "protests" then ? I was gonna type "celebrations of blue" rather than "protests" , but which ever way I say it seems to antagonise some one.

Is that the answer to all my questions ? They were bullied ?

Nope. The KCB was disrupted where members were threatened. In fairness, that night, I believe that there were insults thrown the other way too... But no threats.

The lad who tried to organise a march was intimidated, mocked and ridiculed online, to the point where he withdrew any support to the organising of the event.

I was given a friendly "warning" and have been continuously mocked/intimidated by some for my organising of a petition and open meeting.

Were you at the KCB meeting Baz ?
You said "The lad who tried to organise a march" , but someone posted earlier that one took place at the Blackburn game ? Are you saying he tried and failed and previous poster was wrong ?
Baz , you have not been mocked , you're a good poster and a thinking one , if you were mocked then I didn't see it !

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

Do any BU supporters think that their replies on this thread, and a couple of other threads, are going to entice any reasoned minded waiverers to join in their celebration?

They can't answer reasonable questions and just try to belittle and twist the words of sensible posters.

Take a look at yourselves, it's embarrasing.

I'm sorry mate. I'm not on anyone's side , but we must give them chance to answer.
I say this in relation to my questions , sorry if you were intimating earlier postings.

No problem with you mate, you're asking genuine questions which are ignored as it does not suit the BU agenda.

I normally have a problem with the Chuckmeister but in fairness his responses have been reasonable. It's the small mindedness of a few on the thread, Cardiffkid especially, which dismay me.

What on earth have I said?! I only respond to people who say mistruths about other people or organisations.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

What a bunch of scared little children you are. Im female and have bigger balls than you scared kids. Time you grew some

Ladyboy???

There was a meeting at the municipal club on City Road. I didn't go, but it's widely reported that people who did were bullied by a well known 'pro red' who's name does not need mentioning.

Bluebirds Unite didn't exist then, but it nipped the initial protests at the loss of our identity in the bud.

This will sound silly , but you're saying in the history of this "Billy no bollocks" actually became "Billy big bollocks".
So , the people standing up now were too scared to do it before ? Who were they scared of ? Why aren't they scared of them anymore ?

This is intriguing !

Please can we keep this a sensible debate , no need to slag off others

I don't know mate. I can only speak from personal experience, and I wasn't at the Muni meeting (I wish I had been though).

I tolerated the rebrand at first. It's only the systematic eradication of our club's identity since then (hardly ever wearing blue, lack of blue clobber on sale, scarf gate, Tan not compromising one bit, bluebirds rarely being mentioned etc) and then the vitriolic anti-blues on here that have swung me behind the Bluebirds Unite cause in recent months.

I think people's views have become more entrenched, everyone has given it time (which is sensible after any change) and are now pretty firm that they don't like the rebrand, and aren't afraid to show it.

I love Cardiff City, I hate bullies and I believe in standing up for what you believe in, so I've become increasingly pro-blue

You tolerated the rebrand at first (hoping like all of us , it would be reversed). But VT's plan was to sell us in Asia (and that meant his "lucky" red kit").
I fully understand you , we're Cardiff City.
The bit I don't get is , why did we not protest last year knowing his aim was to make us play in red ? It just seems awful from me that we take his money then get to the promised land then say "Oi Vince we wanna be blue now".
I believe we are all different , and I won't argue with anyone on a message board , but I'm in between

What pisses me off about b/u is they never answer questions cardiff fans have about the organisation , its either like us now or don't say a word tbh .

Why don't one of them come on here and answer the questions asked in this thread and others ?
I would ask them on there page but nobody is allowed on unless you sign up

Were you at the KCB meeting Baz ?

sadly not, work commitments made it impossible, however there are many bloggers with first hand knowledge as they were there & these threats were also covered by the local news.

You said "The lad who tried to organise a march" , but someone posted earlier that one took place at the Blackburn game ? Are you saying he tried and failed and previous poster was wrong ?

no, there was a person who was organising it, until he felt so intimidated, he pulled out of it and left it to someone else.

Baz , you have not been mocked , you're a good poster and a thinking one , if you were mocked then I didn't see it !

ive been mocked several times & also "warned". Etc.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

Correct me if I'm wrong , but Gwyn wasn't answering you. Why have a go at him ?

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

The meeting was called for everyone who wanted to see Cardiff playing in blue, I wanted it then and I want it now, and as for vocal support of the rebrand, I'm simply in vocal support of the club and what I feel is or was the best option open to them.

As I have said, it's not about what suits me, or we'd still be in blue, I have put the club before my personal preference like many other true fans.
It's about club and not favourite colour.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

I'm not a politician but statements like this will only serve to drive people away from the cause you are fighting for:

"It won't stop the negative, desperate, scared, Cardiff City fan hating, illiberal oddballs that spend their time trying to find fault where it doesn't exist, but it's a great statement nonetheless."

What a bunch of scared little children you are. Im female and have bigger balls than you scared kids. Time you grew some

Ladyboy???

There was a meeting at the municipal club on City Road. I didn't go, but it's widely reported that people who did were bullied by a well known 'pro red' who's name does not need mentioning.

Bluebirds Unite didn't exist then, but it nipped the initial protests at the loss of our identity in the bud.

This will sound silly , but you're saying in the history of this "Billy no bollocks" actually became "Billy big bollocks".
So , the people standing up now were too scared to do it before ? Who were they scared of ? Why aren't they scared of them anymore ?

This is intriguing !

Please can we keep this a sensible debate , no need to slag off others

I don't know mate. I can only speak from personal experience, and I wasn't at the Muni meeting (I wish I had been though).

I tolerated the rebrand at first. It's only the systematic eradication of our club's identity since then (hardly ever wearing blue, lack of blue clobber on sale, scarf gate, Tan not compromising one bit, bluebirds rarely being mentioned etc) and then the vitriolic anti-blues on here that have swung me behind the Bluebirds Unite cause in recent months.

I think people's views have become more entrenched, everyone has given it time (which is sensible after any change) and are now pretty firm that they don't like the rebrand, and aren't afraid to show it.

I love Cardiff City, I hate bullies and I believe in standing up for what you believe in, so I've become increasingly pro-blue

You tolerated the rebrand at first (hoping like all of us , it would be reversed). But VT's plan was to sell us in Asia (and that meant his "lucky" red kit").
I fully understand you , we're Cardiff City.
The bit I don't get is , why did we not protest last year knowing his aim was to make us play in red ? It just seems awful from me that we take his money then get to the promised land then say "Oi Vince we wanna be blue now".
I believe we are all different , and I won't argue with anyone on a message board , but I'm in between

The persistent pro-blue chants all of the back end of last season (primarily after the Brighton game when Tan gave the red scarfs out) were a clear form a protest. Likewise, 'The Blues are going up' was a clear statement of fans preference.

Formal 'protests' or expressions of pro-blue opinion waited until after the season ended.

The problem is that Tan refuses to engage, and in that sense he is escalating the problem for himself.

Were you at the KCB meeting Baz ?

sadly not, work commitments made it impossible, however there are many bloggers with first hand knowledge as they were there & these threats were also covered by the local news.

You said "The lad who tried to organise a march" , but someone posted earlier that one took place at the Blackburn game ? Are you saying he tried and failed and previous poster was wrong ?

no, there was a person who was organising it, until he felt so intimidated, he pulled out of it and left it to someone else.

Baz , you have not been mocked , you're a good poster and a thinking one , if you were mocked then I didn't see it !

ive been mocked several times & also "warned". Etc.

Baz , you ain't worried about a bit mocking ! And warnings ? The truth will out.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

I'm not a politician but statements like this will only serve to drive people away from the cause you are fighting for:

"It won't stop the negative, desperate, scared, Cardiff City fan hating, illiberal oddballs that spend their time trying to find fault where it doesn't exist, but it's a great statement nonetheless."

I am referring to a very small number of people there..perhaps 5 or 6.

I have also shown the old Cardiff City badge, and asked what is wrong with it and stressed that people who are proud of it, should be proud of the bluebirds.

I agree, I could do better at not rising to trolls I suppose.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

The meeting was called for everyone who wanted to see Cardiff playing in blue, I wanted it then and I want it now, and as for vocal support of the rebrand, I'm simply in vocal support of the club and what I feel is or was the best option open to them.

As I have said, it's not about what suits me, or we'd still be in blue, I have put the club before my personal preference like many other true fans.
It's about club and not favourite colour.

I think Gwyn that if you are pro-blue then now is the time to express that and illustrate in a peaceful manner why the badge, the bluebird, the colours etc is important to us.

You can see it too, the things we hold dear are slowly being eradicated. The club is more than a mere name, it has a culture and identity and it's slowly going.

Bluebirds Unite just want to peacefully express this (Tan won't engage-so what should they do?).

Were you at the KCB meeting Baz ?

sadly not, work commitments made it impossible, however there are many bloggers with first hand knowledge as they were there & these threats were also covered by the local news.


[color=#8040FF]If the were witnessed and covered by the local press, why weren't charges brought about, it is a criminal offence to threaten anyone, I have yet to seen any threat made directly to any person quoted verbatim.
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You said "The lad who tried to organise a march" , but someone posted earlier that one took place at the Blackburn game ? Are you saying he tried and failed and previous poster was wrong ?

no, there was a person who was organising it, until he felt so intimidated, he pulled out of it and left it to someone else.

The lad pulled out because he didn't realise the implications of organising a march, there's a lot more to it than setting up a facebook group and trying to remain faceless, the police wont have that, someone has to take responsibility, arrange the route, stewarding, first aid etc and communicate and ask the police for permission, none of this was done hence the lad pulling out.


Baz , you have not been mocked , you're a good poster and a thinking one , if you were mocked then I didn't see it !

Being mocked sadly goes along with the territory and anyone who pops their head over the wall so to speak is fair game in some people's eyes, as for personal threats, there is no place for them, and if you were threatened, why did you not take action.

ive been mocked several times & also "warned". Etc.