' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

Verbal contract & deals FFS... You seem to think that the fans opinions actually mattered.

Here come the insults.

There'll be about 60 people u16 and 10 people 30+

Your way out, hundreds will march

Hundreds? That is still a very small minority as thousands would stand by VT. None of us like playing in red,

but there was a deal

that we rebranded and in exchange VT would invest £100m into CCFC and make the club debt free.

So basically you are saying we should take the cash and then dump all over VT and insist on having the blue back now. People like that are dishonourable and are frankly spoilt bastards who don't like not getting their own way.

Grow up become an adult and understand that life operates on honouring deals and contracts. I for one have NO intention on going back on the deal struck with VT although I will wait patiently for an honourable solution in the future where a possible mutually acceptable time will emerge for a return to blue.

You talk about a deal? What deal? I don't remember VT asking Cardiff fans to sign a deal? Only a select few allowed to vote on shorts

Dont start about the shorts he hasnt even stuck to his word on the winning colour on them.

Hmmm that's ever so slightly racist and discriminatory. But hey!

Racist, I don't think so mate. It is Vincent Tan that said that he had to deal with 100% democracy in the UK and all the rights it gives us fans.

As for discriminatory. The work ethic and commitment to their jobs is unprecedented.

At most I was being stereotypical.

Verbal contract & deals FFS... You seem to think that the fans opinions actually mattered.

Here come the insults.

Stop derailing the thread.

Totally agree with trying to get the blue back, but disagree with being disrespectful to tan the chap has transformed the club behind the scenes and taken us again to another level.

Keep the blue pressure on him, sing pro blue songs but most importantly


SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY FC.

When tan see the stadium full with over 27000 fans in it,do you really think he will be bothered about a few hundred marching,hes more than likely expecting it

Some Tan supporters are trying to re-write history!!!!!

Totally agree with trying to get the blue back, but disagree with being disrespectful to tan the chap has transformed the club behind the scenes and taken us again to another level.

Keep the blue pressure on him, sing pro blue songs but most importantly


SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY FC.

Yes totally agree but apparently thats not allowed as we signed a "deal"

Vincent Tan: "If I leave, I'll leave this club in good hands."

You refer to this time and again and TBH no-one understands why you do it? How can you laugh at how VT will leave the club when he hasn't left yet?

Honestly Chuckles you really are way off the mark at times.

No one understand why he does it? REALLY ? Wow Tony speaking for everyone and no one at the same time

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

Given some of the people I now see involved in Bluebirds Unite, people who can more than hold their own, will there be any threats or bullying like all the other pro-blue groups were belittled / bullied?

Or is that only reserved for people they know they can bully?

spot on

Verbal contract & deals FFS... You seem to think that the fans opinions actually mattered.

Here come the insults.

You seem to relish playing the victim? Inviting on the insults or what?

When tan see the stadium full with over 27000 fans in it,do you really think he will be bothered about a few hundred marching,hes more than likely expecting it

Yes. due to the television Broadcast, you know if the media put a spin on it then it wouldnt be a few hundred, the amount would grow!

it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world .

Well, he will know how the fans felt when he rebranded us then.

For me you get respect, when you give it. He couldn't respect the club enough to keep us in our rightful colours.

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

If the shit does hit the fan,then the real fireworks wil start

It's all over Facebook at the moment with many different Facebook groups advertising it .

This march is starting to worry me , if tan sees Cardiff city ( his buisness ) live on tv in our first ever premier league home game which is being beamed around the world , being overshadowed in the buildup by a protest march against him , I've got a bad feeling he may well push him to far . This march could make bigger problems than people realise . He has allready hinted IMO during a recent interview that if he is not appreciated or wanted he will go , this march will prove the tipping point IMO and he will see it as an insult to all the hard work he has put into the club .
Now I'm no rebrand fan at all but you have to be fair the guy has pretty much done everything he said he would so far .

Langstone paid off
Stadium capacity increase
New training ground
Big name players
Premier league football
Steady finances at the club and debt free

Now I'm a pro blue and would rather be in blue but , this march needs serious consideration before it is held on this day .
What other owner will come in and buy tan out ?
I'm pretty sure the price will be over 100mill now after all he's put into the club
Will new owners have the same vision and want to increase the stadium further or complete a new training ground ?
Will they spend big money on players or just reap the benefits of the prem for a season or two then f**k off ?

Personally I think it's better the devil we know with tan who is undoubtably the most successful owner we have ever had than some other guy who could cripple the club in the long run and put us back where we were a few years ago !

Bluebirds unite should be concentrating on getting tan to listen or talk and getting people to wear blue at games not marches on probably one of the biggest days in the clubs history .

This march is a BAD idea and will have a detrimental effect on the season IMO .

So you would stifle freedom of expression and freedom of speech and the freedom to demonstrate in a peaceful manner for a season in the premier league.If Tan is the type of person to throw his toys out of his pram(and he uses City as his toy)'just because a group of people are prepared to stand up to his bullying way's.Then he is not much of a man'is he.Personally'i will be glad to see the back of him.I think 53 seasons down the City gives me the right to protest.I will be on the march.And so will a lot of free thinking fans

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

If the shit does hit the fan,then the real fireworks wil start

2 puns in just 13 words. You should be on the radio.

Verbal contract & deals FFS... You seem to think that the fans opinions actually mattered.

Here come the insults.

Stop derailing the thread.

Pot, kettle, black. You are the grand master.

There'll be about 60 people u16 and 10 people 30+

Your way out, hundreds will march

Hundreds? That is still a very small minority as thousands would stand by VT. None of us like playing in red,

but there was a deal

that we rebranded and in exchange VT would invest £100m into CCFC and make the club debt free.

So basically you are saying we should take the cash and then dump all over VT and insist on having the blue back now. People like that are dishonourable and are frankly spoilt bastards who don't like not getting their own way.

Grow up become an adult and understand that life operates on honouring deals and contracts. I for one have NO intention on going back on the deal struck with VT although I will wait patiently for an honourable solution in the future where a possible mutually acceptable time will emerge for a return to blue.

You talk about a deal? What deal? I don't remember VT asking Cardiff fans to sign a deal? Only a select few allowed to vote on shorts

Dont start about the shorts he hasnt even stuck to his word on the winning colour on them.

Hello, I didn't see your original point about the deal, some right nutters on here

There'll be about 60 people u16 and 10 people 30+

Your way out, hundreds will march

Hundreds? That is still a very small minority as thousands would stand by VT. None of us like playing in red, but there was a deal that we rebranded and in exchange VT would invest £100m into CCFC and make the club debt free.

So basically you are saying we should take the cash and then dump all over VT and insist on having the blue back now. People like that are dishonourable and are frankly spoilt bastards who don't like not getting their own way.

Grow up become an adult and understand that life operates on honouring deals and contracts. I for one have NO intention on going back on the deal struck with VT although I will wait patiently for an honourable solution in the future where a possible mutually acceptable time will emerge for a return to blue.

I recall reading a statement from the club back in 2012 stating that the re-brand will go through for 2012/13 but there will be discussions and dialouge with the supporters and supporter groups to talk through the changing of the badge and how the re-brand can progress.

This did not happen. why was this deal not honoured?

With every week that goes by this once great messageboard is getting to look more and more like a TV soap opera with the same storylines being run again and again and again. I've been on holiday for the last few weeks and now I'm back guess what the same arguements, not debates, are going on. Unfecking believeable and really sad to see this board reduced to this, but I suppose it's better than the tread asking if "Roath Tragic" should be allowed back if he only posts under the "Roathie" username.

I thought Bluebirds Unite was going to be an organisation that would be able to push for a return to our traditional colours but I realised that was not going to happen when I read the "Official Statement" on thier facebook page. The individual who wrote it thinks enough about themselves to say he "Doesn't want to debate" the issue which means follow me blindly in whatever I do and never question me. At that point I lost any interest in the group.

I suppose anyone if you intend going on this "March" you are happy with the message of "We Will Be Showing Who Cardiff City Bluebirds Are". I'd really like to know who the feck Cardiff City Bluebirds are as the "Identity" of the club I have supported is "Cardiff City Football Club". But hey ho this is BU and no debate is allowed so if the leaders want to "Rebrand" the primary identity of our club so be it because remember "There is no debate" with this lot.

Of more concern to me is that BU say "It Is Important We Turn Up And Set The Scene For The Season" . What the feck does that mean and exactly what scene are they intent on setting next season.

I'll be avoiding this group like they have the plague and the scene I will be setting next season is one where I'll be supporting MM and the team 100%.

Anyone want to join me in doing the same.

Tony, they are not damaging our club, they are keeping the BLUE alive. You will always get pockets who can sometimes get out of control. Sian is trying her best to keep everyone well behaved and has warned people no abuse.
You have said its a democratic world.
I don't agree with fans wearing the red and I am stunned and hurt that they do, but that's what they want to do.
Tan will do what he wants anyway.

Everyone does things in their own way, for now I prefer to just continue to wear my BLUE with pride,

I hope Sian can control them but history has proved that will be very difficult to do. Honestly I can see no good coming from this.

I controlled 3,000 when we marched against the Riddler Tony, not one bad incident, infant we got praise from the media.

Yes you did but marching against Ridsdale and marching against Tans vision are two different things one almost destroyed our club the other saved it and what thanks does he get? protest. Don't be surprised if he says enough is enough

Like I say, I am not marching on it, but they are entitled to their views being heard and yes I want my Identity back,I will be wearing BLUE at every game.
As I have said before Tan will do what he wants and will leave when he is ready.

So do I want a return to blue but dialogue is the way not protest. I don't own a red shirt but you do our club no favour annis by constantly making bluebirds Unite threads into stickies its as good as promoting them and say what you will what they are doing is damaging our club and the fans relationship with our owner. It will all end in tears.

That's totally unfair as this Bluebirds unite topic was against them, I try to be fair to everyone .

There'll be about 60 people u16 and 10 people 30+

Your way out, hundreds will march

Hundreds? That is still a very small minority as thousands would stand by VT. None of us like playing in red, but there was a deal that we rebranded and in exchange VT would invest £100m into CCFC and make the club debt free.

So basically you are saying we should take the cash and then dump all over VT and insist on having the blue back now. People like that are dishonourable and are frankly spoilt bastards who don't like not getting their own way.

Grow up become an adult and understand that life operates on honouring deals and contracts. I for one have NO intention on going back on the deal struck with VT although I will wait patiently for an honourable solution in the future where a possible mutually acceptable time will emerge for a return to blue.

I recall reading a statement from the club back in 2012 stating that the re-brand will go through for 2012/13 but there will be discussions and dialouge with the supporters and supporter groups to talk through the changing of the badge and how the re-brand can progress.

This did not happen. why was this deal not honoured?

Because Tony had already signed a deal on our behalf, forgot to tell anyone , but Tony has done what's best for us and now we musn't march to celebrate our identity.After all a deal is a deal

Last edited by Real_Blue_Really on Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:50 am, edited 2 times in total.

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

When would you suggest would be the most appropriate time to march?

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

When would you suggest would be the most appropriate time to march?

Very good question?

Because Tony had already signed a deal on our behalf, forgot to tell anyone , but Tony has done what's best for us and now we musn't march to celebrate our identity.After all a deal is a deal

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

When would you suggest would be the most appropriate time to march?

When VT goes scuba diving for some publicity shots, at the precise point he is submerging under the water, we can march for the duration of one oxygen tank. Soon as he's rising out of the deep sea we must all stop and disband like nothing had happened.

Totally agree with you comments Castleblue.

Gary, I will also be supporting Malky and our team 100% in My BLUE, like you

I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.