Sea of red in the Grandstand

I'm there and it definitely is a sea of red.
Fans have accepted the rebranding.Fact.

True fans of the club will never accept the rebrand, teenager and glory hunters may but you can hardly call these muppets true fans

The 82 year old man who has supported city for 60 years in this thread has.Is he a muppet

Sea of red in the Grandstand.........Did anyone expect anything diffrent today, inside the stadium you wouldnt even think this whole uproar with opinions, polls, marches, about the whole red episode was even going on online, just goes to show online talk means a total of f**k all as the only thing VT will see is reds on seats and thats all he wants to see which is all he needs for the thumbs up to whatever he wants to do.

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Yep a lot of people wearing the red pretty sad to see. I can't help but feel a certain level of contempt for them

Why do you feel contempt for them?

The last I heard our home strip is red! Mind you I live near Bournemouth and news filters slowly down here. Have we changed colour again?

Because I hate the rebrand from blue to red and still don't understand it. When I see people wearing that red mess of a shirt I consider them to be in support of the rebrand and strengthening Tans stance on it. I don't abuse anyone for wearing red and respect that it's everyones right to wear what they want. Just hate rebrand and it disappoints me to see so many people on board with it as it won't help us get our blue kit or badge back anytime soon!

Fair comment, but please understand that we have one common denominator.......and that's Cardiff City FC.

Whether we like it or not, we now play at home in a red shirt. That may change in the future but as it stands we play our home games in red.

I used to buy every home kit but haven't for the last 5 years when I relinquished my season ticket due to moving out of Wales.

I'm lucky to have a season ticket this year and at the Man City game I will be buying the home shirt which is obviously red. Not because I am anti blue or anti BU but because the club I love and cherish so dearly happen to play in that colour.

But essentially you are correct.........each to their own, on the proviso that we all support our club.

you can support the club by not wearing the red. By wearing the red you are supporting the regime.

I'm there and it definitely is a sea of red.
Fans have accepted the rebranding.Fact.

True fans of the club will never accept the rebrand, teenager and glory hunters may but you can hardly call these muppets true fans

Ok. I don't like the red and will never wear it, however, my old man wears it because what else can he do, he's too old to protest and he says if you can't beat them. He has been supporting the club for 60 years, is he a plastic or glory hunter?

Sea of red in the Grandstand.........Did anyone expect anything diffrent today, inside the stadium you wouldnt even think this whole uproar with opinions, polls, marches, about the whole red episode was even going on online, just goes to show online talk means a total of f**k all as the only thing VT will see is reds on seats and thats all he wants to see which is all he needs for the thumbs up to whatever he wants to do.

Your spot on.

I notice a group of youngsters tried to unfurl the against modern football banner today in the ninian stand but stewards made them take it down

I'm there and it definitely is a sea of red.
Fans have accepted the rebranding.Fact.

True fans of the club will never accept the rebrand, teenager and glory hunters may but you can hardly call these muppets true fans

That's exactly what I thought when my dad said he had bought a red top.
I thought "what a damn teenage glory supporting muppet of a fake fan you are".

f*cking idiots view on the matter if you ask me.

Makes my blood boil seeing fans label fans who wear red as newbie plastics. There were fans there today who have been down the City for years and they were wearing red. Fans just want to support their team and what better way to do it than to wear the same shirt as their team. We're not going back to blue anytime soon, the sooner the likes of BU accept that fact the better, there's nothing they can do to change VTs mind, so they should shut up and get behind the team.
I personally haven't bought any red merchandise since the rebrand, but the likes of BU make me feel like buying a red shirt as a sort of F... You statement to them!

oh I see f**k BU. Its this sort of action that will kill off any hope of us returning to blue.

While your mates are buying red then they are embracing the regime. Any news investor will then see there is no desire for the blue. As much as you criticise BU at least they are making a stand for the blue which hopefully will be noticed by any new investor.

You go ahead and buy your red shirt and wear it with pride but don't come running and crying when some new possible saviour comes along and continues the red revolution.

Look we all want blue but as Hangman stated in his post above the common denominator is CCFC. New investors aren't going to give a flying fig about BU or their passion for blue. They will only be interested in £££££££'s and unless a change of colour will bring them more profit it is a non-subject.

I still think an opportunity will arise in the future (it could be a decade or more) when we will be given the chance to revert back to blue. I'm sorry but BU are a total non-entity and if they hold a protest march it will be the end of them.

I notice a group of youngsters tried to unfurl the against modern football banner today in the ninian stand but stewards made them take it down

"Against modern football" unveiled by young fans at a football match being held by a club that plays in the premier league.

The Premier League,The home of modern football.


Bet they all got season tickets

you can support the club by not wearing the red. By wearing the red you are supporting the regime.

What happens if someone supports the 'regime?' It is up to the individual and going on today's evidence the 'regime' has plenty of support.

Makes my blood boil seeing fans label fans who wear red as newbie plastics. There were fans there today who have been down the City for years and they were wearing red. Fans just want to support their team and what better way to do it than to wear the same shirt as their team. We're not going back to blue anytime soon, the sooner the likes of BU accept that fact the better, there's nothing they can do to change VTs mind, so they should shut up and get behind the team.
I personally haven't bought any red merchandise since the rebrand, but the likes of BU make me feel like buying a red shirt as a sort of F... You statement to them!

oh I see f**k BU. Its this sort of action that will kill off any hope of us returning to blue.

While your mates are buying red then they are embracing the regime. Any news investor will then see there is no desire for the blue. As much as you criticise BU at least they are making a stand for the blue which hopefully will be noticed by any new investor.

You go ahead and buy your red shirt and wear it with pride but don't come running and crying when some new possible saviour comes along and continues the red revolution.

Look we all want blue

Thats where it ends though tony we didnt all want blue at all otherwise we wouldnt be red simple, a few promises of fortune and a big fat nod to VT to do as he pleases or the old we will go bust so to speak and this we all want blue talk was forgotten there and then

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I notice a group of youngsters tried to unfurl the against modern football banner today in the ninian stand but stewards made them take it down

"Against modern football" unveiled by young fans at a football match being held by a club that plays in the premier league.

The Premier League,The home of modern football.


Bet they all got season tickets

The daft thing was a few minutes later they were all chanting we are premier league

Can you sing songs about the team aswell?

I suppose you say that to all those who sing about "shitting on the English side of the bridge" & Joe Allen's dad being Jimmy Saviole?

Always be blue is far more supportive than those two chants.

The we will always be blue chant always gets a laugh from the away fans fair play to you. i'd rather hear songs that get behind our team plus they need us more this season..

Why are you assuming that "we'll always be blue" is going to be the only song we want to sing?

Because from what i saw last season your part of the stadium couldn't put two sentences together and all stood like cardboard cut outs whilst having away fans singing your support is fecking shit to you
Only got one song you only got one song

I notice a group of youngsters tried to unfurl the against modern football banner today in the ninian stand but stewards made them take it down

"Against modern football" unveiled by young fans at a football match being held by a club that plays in the premier league.

The Premier League,The home of modern football.


Bet they all got season tickets

The daft thing was a few minutes later they were all chanting we are premier league

Hahahaha f*cking brilliant!! Keep fighting the good fight lads...

I notice a group of youngsters tried to unfurl the against modern football banner today in the ninian stand but stewards made them take it down

Against modern football really pisses me off. youngsters as well, go and watch old clips of football, it was shit, and you didn't know if you would make it home without bruises. Oh and women were very scarce.

you can support the club by not wearing the red. By wearing the red you are supporting the regime.

What happens if someone supports the 'regime?' It is up to the individual and going on today's evidence the 'regime' has plenty of support.

But the club is the regime...
The team are part of the club.
The fans are part of the club.
The regime controls the club.
They do not make people wear red
They do not make people not wear blue.
That's down to personal choice of the individual...

I respect the choice of an individual.

Can you sing songs about the team aswell?

I suppose you say that to all those who sing about "shitting on the English side of the bridge" & Joe Allen's dad being Jimmy Saviole?

Always be blue is far more supportive than those two chants.

The we will always be blue chant always gets a laugh from the away fans fair play to you. i'd rather hear songs that get behind our team plus they need us more this season..

Why are you assuming that "we'll always be blue" is going to be the only song we want to sing?

Because from what i saw last season your part of the stadium couldn't put two sentences together and all stood like cardboard cut outs whilst having away fans singing your support is fecking shit to you
Only got one song you only got one song

Coming from someone who sits silently in the Family Stand.

And for the record, I've moved to the middle of the Canton Stand.

you can support the club by not wearing the red. By wearing the red you are supporting the regime.

What happens if someone supports the 'regime?' It is up to the individual and going on today's evidence the 'regime' has plenty of support.

Sadly very true.

Its every ones choice what they wear, there's on right or wrong in the case pertaining to our club & the re brand issues.

Today I wore blue, my choice. My son wore red, his choice. Thank god we live in a free country!

I must say that filtering through a load of this red/blue tit for tat it's very refreshing to see a point of view that is open and honest and above all non judgemental.
A lifelong City Fan chooses to wear Blue and sees his son wear red and not try to brainwash him to do "as dad does" is great.
The thing is...the young City fans feel as though they are part of something new and see themselves as the pioneers of the new Cardiff City era. and why shouldn't they? I'm quite sure if i was 30 + years younger I would feel just like them and want to be a part of the new dawn.
I will never try to change anyone's view on wearing the colour they choose to wear as it's their choice and I respect choice.
They have their reasons for wearing red just as the blue have their reasons for wearing Blue.
Debate has been lost and bitterness has set in and for that reason VT can be blamed for disregarding fans emotions.
I still hear nothing of a compromise from fans as they seem to be in one camp or another mostly. I'm not saying for one minute that VT shouldn't try to embrace fans with a compromising solution but the saddest thing of all is....I don't think he will.
We as fans though who are undoubtedly emotionally attached need to find a way of breeching VT's iron exterior and without arguing, shouting, victimising and systematic bullying try to appeal to VT's emotions.
If, after genuinely trying there is no way forward then it's up to VT to pick up the pieces when City fans stay away due to hostile atmosphere etc.
I believe it's all been done in the wrong manner from the offset....firstly by VT and carried on by us fans in general.
The best way forward in my humble oppinion would be through the supporters trust who can speak directly to VT with any proposals put forward.
This would mean a committee from both red and blue camps sitting down and being prepared to give ant take in order to reach the compromise.
If VT does not even entertain a meeting then he surely is a person who cares so little of The Cardiff City community then he should go.

its wrong that people who are against the rebrand are made to take down their flags , banners etc because anybody else was allowed to do what they want aslong as it wasn't against it , totally not fair

Yep a lot of people wearing the red pretty sad to see. I can't help but feel a certain level of contempt for them

Why do you feel contempt for them?

The last I heard our home strip is red! Mind you I live near Bournemouth and news filters slowly down here. Have we changed colour again?

Because I hate the rebrand from blue to red and still don't understand it. When I see people wearing that red mess of a shirt I consider them to be in support of the rebrand and strengthening Tans stance on it. I don't abuse anyone for wearing red and respect that it's everyones right to wear what they want. Just hate rebrand and it disappoints me to see so many people on board with it as it won't help us get our blue kit or badge back anytime soon!

Fair comment, but please understand that we have one common denominator.......and that's Cardiff City FC.

Whether we like it or not, we now play at home in a red shirt. That may change in the future but as it stands we play our home games in red.

I used to buy every home kit but haven't for the last 5 years when I relinquished my season ticket due to moving out of Wales.

I'm lucky to have a season ticket this year and at the Man City game I will be buying the home shirt which is obviously red. Not because I am anti blue or anti BU but because the club I love and cherish so dearly happen to play in that colour.

But essentially you are correct.........each to their own, on the proviso that we all support our club.

you can support the club by not wearing the red. By wearing the red you are supporting the regime.

But I do support the regime, they saved my club and then took us to heights that many years ago I could only dream of.

If it was my decision we would be playing in blue.......but it's not my decision.

Rebrand aside, Tan has given us more than he ever promissed.

its wrong that people who are against the rebrand are made to take down their flags , banners etc because anybody else was allowed to do what they want aslong as it wasn't against it , totally not fair

The banner was against what the club has done, of course the club are going to remove it from their stadium.

I'm against the red etc but the banner is stupid.

Yep a lot of people wearing the red pretty sad to see. I can't help but feel a certain level of contempt for them

Why do you feel contempt for them?

The last I heard our home strip is red! Mind you I live near Bournemouth and news filters slowly down here. Have we changed colour again?

Because I hate the rebrand from blue to red and still don't understand it. When I see people wearing that red mess of a shirt I consider them to be in support of the rebrand and strengthening Tans stance on it. I don't abuse anyone for wearing red and respect that it's everyones right to wear what they want. Just hate rebrand and it disappoints me to see so many people on board with it as it won't help us get our blue kit or badge back anytime soon!

Fair comment, but please understand that we have one common denominator.......and that's Cardiff City FC.

Whether we like it or not, we now play at home in a red shirt. That may change in the future but as it stands we play our home games in red.

I used to buy every home kit but haven't for the last 5 years when I relinquished my season ticket due to moving out of Wales.

I'm lucky to have a season ticket this year and at the Man City game I will be buying the home shirt which is obviously red. Not because I am anti blue or anti BU but because the club I love and cherish so dearly happen to play in that colour.

But essentially you are correct.........each to their own, on the proviso that we all support our club.

you can support the club by not wearing the red. By wearing the red you are supporting the regime.

But I do support the regime, they saved my club and then took us to heights that many years ago I could only dream of.

If it was my decision we would be playing in blue.......but it's not my decision.

Rebrand aside, Tan has given us more than he ever promissed.

spot on mte.

Its every ones choice what they wear, there's on right or wrong in the case pertaining to our club & the re brand issues.

Today I wore blue, my choice. My son wore red, his choice. Thank god we live in a free country!

I must say that filtering through a load of this red/blue tit for tat it's very refreshing to see a point of view that is open and honest and above all non judgemental.
A lifelong City Fan chooses to wear Blue and sees his son wear red and not try to brainwash him to do "as dad does" is great.
The thing is...the young City fans feel as though they are part of something new and see themselves as the pioneers of the new Cardiff City era. and why shouldn't they? I'm quite sure if i was 30 + years younger I would feel just like them and want to be a part of the new dawn.
I will never try to change anyone's view on wearing the colour they choose to wear as it's their choice and I respect choice.
They have their reasons for wearing red just as the blue have their reasons for wearing Blue.
Debate has been lost and bitterness has set in and for that reason VT can be blamed for disregarding fans emotions.
I still hear nothing of a compromise from fans as they seem to be in one camp or another mostly. I'm not saying for one minute that VT shouldn't try to embrace fans with a compromising solution but the saddest thing of all is....I don't think he will.
We as fans though who are undoubtedly emotionally attached need to find a way of breeching VT's iron exterior and without arguing, shouting, victimising and systematic bullying try to appeal to VT's emotions.
If, after genuinely trying there is no way forward then it's up to VT to pick up the pieces when City fans stay away due to hostile atmosphere etc.
I believe it's all been done in the wrong manner from the offset....firstly by VT and carried on by us fans in general.
The best way forward in my humble oppinion would be through the supporters trust who can speak directly to VT with any proposals put forward.
This would mean a committee from both red and blue camps sitting down and being prepared to give ant take in order to reach the compromise.
If VT does not even entertain a meeting then he surely is a person who cares so little of The Cardiff City community then he should go.

Jes, i couldn't have put it better myself. I don't know the answers to it all, & im not even going to try, but you do put forward some interesting points & ideas. I firmly believe that a compromise can,,,& indeed will develop through a mature & intelligent dialogue with VT & Co in the future. He certainly will not budge to sabre rattlings or guns to his head.

Time will tell.

its wrong that people who are against the rebrand are made to take down their flags , banners etc because anybody else was allowed to do what they want aslong as it wasn't against it , totally not fair

And the flags and banners said what?

Its every ones choice what they wear, there's on right or wrong in the case pertaining to our club & the re brand issues.

Today I wore blue, my choice. My son wore red, his choice. Thank god we live in a free country!

I must say that filtering through a load of this red/blue tit for tat it's very refreshing to see a point of view that is open and honest and above all non judgemental.
A lifelong City Fan chooses to wear Blue and sees his son wear red and not try to brainwash him to do "as dad does" is great.
The thing is...the young City fans feel as though they are part of something new and see themselves as the pioneers of the new Cardiff City era. and why shouldn't they? I'm quite sure if i was 30 + years younger I would feel just like them and want to be a part of the new dawn.
I will never try to change anyone's view on wearing the colour they choose to wear as it's their choice and I respect choice.
They have their reasons for wearing red just as the blue have their reasons for wearing Blue.
Debate has been lost and bitterness has set in and for that reason VT can be blamed for disregarding fans emotions.
I still hear nothing of a compromise from fans as they seem to be in one camp or another mostly. I'm not saying for one minute that VT shouldn't try to embrace fans with a compromising solution but the saddest thing of all is....I don't think he will.
We as fans though who are undoubtedly emotionally attached need to find a way of breeching VT's iron exterior and without arguing, shouting, victimising and systematic bullying try to appeal to VT's emotions.
If, after genuinely trying there is no way forward then it's up to VT to pick up the pieces when City fans stay away due to hostile atmosphere etc.
I believe it's all been done in the wrong manner from the offset....firstly by VT and carried on by us fans in general.
The best way forward in my humble oppinion would be through the supporters trust who can speak directly to VT with any proposals put forward.
This would mean a committee from both red and blue camps sitting down and being prepared to give ant take in order to reach the compromise.
If VT does not even entertain a meeting then he surely is a person who cares so little of The Cardiff City community then he should go.

Jes, i couldn't have put it better myself. I don't know the answers to it all, & im not even going to try, but you do put forward some interesting points & ideas. I firmly believe that a compromise can,,,& indeed will develop through a mature & intelligent dialogue with VT & Co in the future. He certainly will not budge to sabre rattlings or guns to his head.

Time will tell.

I wish I had confidence in the trust but I don't. That's why I support BU because they are the only ones making a stand for the blue. The trust have made a statement but that all they have done. I have yet to see any constructive action from them. Infact all I have seen is their leadership giving support to PMG and Steve Borley who basically tend to gain from the residency of Tan. As far as I am concerned the trust seem to be under control of the board that won't say boo to Tan.

Its every ones choice what they wear, there's on right or wrong in the case pertaining to our club & the re brand issues.

Today I wore blue, my choice. My son wore red, his choice. Thank god we live in a free country!

I must say that filtering through a load of this red/blue tit for tat it's very refreshing to see a point of view that is open and honest and above all non judgemental.
A lifelong City Fan chooses to wear Blue and sees his son wear red and not try to brainwash him to do "as dad does" is great.
The thing is...the young City fans feel as though they are part of something new and see themselves as the pioneers of the new Cardiff City era. and why shouldn't they? I'm quite sure if i was 30 + years younger I would feel just like them and want to be a part of the new dawn.
I will never try to change anyone's view on wearing the colour they choose to wear as it's their choice and I respect choice.
They have their reasons for wearing red just as the blue have their reasons for wearing Blue.
Debate has been lost and bitterness has set in and for that reason VT can be blamed for disregarding fans emotions.
I still hear nothing of a compromise from fans as they seem to be in one camp or another mostly. I'm not saying for one minute that VT shouldn't try to embrace fans with a compromising solution but the saddest thing of all is....I don't think he will.
We as fans though who are undoubtedly emotionally attached need to find a way of breeching VT's iron exterior and without arguing, shouting, victimising and systematic bullying try to appeal to VT's emotions.
If, after genuinely trying there is no way forward then it's up to VT to pick up the pieces when City fans stay away due to hostile atmosphere etc.
I believe it's all been done in the wrong manner from the offset....firstly by VT and carried on by us fans in general.
The best way forward in my humble oppinion would be through the supporters trust who can speak directly to VT with any proposals put forward.
This would mean a committee from both red and blue camps sitting down and being prepared to give ant take in order to reach the compromise.
If VT does not even entertain a meeting then he surely is a person who cares so little of The Cardiff City community then he should go.

Jes, i couldn't have put it better myself. I don't know the answers to it all, & im not even going to try, but you do put forward some interesting points & ideas. I firmly believe that a compromise can,,,& indeed will develop through a mature & intelligent dialogue with VT & Co in the future. He certainly will not budge to sabre rattlings or guns to his head.

Time will tell.

I wish I had confidence in the trust but I don't. That's why I support BU because they are the only ones making a stand for the blue. The trust have made a statement but that all they have done. I have yet to see any constructive action from them. Infact all I have seen is their leadership giving support to PMG and Steve Borley who basically tend to gain from the residency of Tan. As far as I am concerned the trust seem to be under control of the board that won't say boo to Tan.

Add Sam your mate to that list because without tans residency he would have had nothing either apart from the colour tan has been good for everyone connected with the club

Personally i think its going to take all the combined "brains" at the Trust, BU, the Supporters Club, & any other affiliated Cardiff City supporter groups, to have any real chance to crack this "nut". No pun intended, but united we ALL stand a chance.

Add Sam your mate to that list because without tans residency he would have had nothing either apart from the colour tan has been good for everyone connected with the club

Sam is not a friend of mine. I have been introduced to him and that is all so refrain from making such statements.

Sam has had nothing but only his money back.

Add Sam your mate to that list because without tans residency he would have had nothing either apart from the colour tan has been good for everyone connected with the club

Sam is not a friend of mine. I have been introduced to him and that is all so refrain from making such statements.

Sam has had nothing but only his money back.

I based it on the photo from forest green and pmg and borley are also only getting their money back from what I can see your getting upset over me assuming your SAMs friend yet you freely call people trolls practice what you preach