Be Honest reds

So because something is not on the cards hes not allowed to voice his opinion? Great logic Chuckles. Everyone is entitled to air their views.

I haven't said that, stop making things up.

Totally irrelevant, that's what I'm saying. I'd rather City wear red than me go and support the Jacks, but that too, would be totally irrelevant.

no I think you will find thats exactly what your saying because you dont understand the point im making

Oh I do. It's one I'd agree with too. I'd rather see us in red than move us to Newport/Swansea etc... Still think its a totally irrelevant point though.

Nothing to see, only your irrelevant comparisons.

only in your eyes because you cant get passed your own blinkered view

It's irrelevant because it wasn't going to happen.

So because something is not on the cards hes not allowed to voice his opinion? Great logic Chuckles. Everyone is entitled to air their views.

I haven't said that, stop making things up.

Totally irrelevant, that's what I'm saying. I'd rather City wear red than me go and support the Jacks, but that too, would be totally irrelevant.

no I think you will find thats exactly what your saying because you dont understand the point im making

Oh I do. It's one I'd agree with too. I'd rather see us in red than move us to Newport/Swansea etc... Still think its a totally irrelevant point though.

so you finally find my point and agree with me would much rather face a kit change than a change in location so you have made a complete 180

Nothing to see, only your irrelevant comparisons.

only in your eyes because you cant get passed your own blinkered view

It's irrelevant because it wasn't going to happen.

oh hang on youve spun 180 degrees again not getting dizzy are you chuckles

pathetic stop trying to be an argumentative tw*t your not very good at it

The carping and school yard point scoring has ruined yet another thread.

This is the reason I and many like me have turned away from posting on here.

I don't mind debate but I'm afraid the level yet again has hit the floor.

Correct terry,bu cheerleader chuckles constantly try's to defend the indefensible.

B) I'm not actually a member of BU.

Well Well you can't even join the group you speak so highly of.
The word hypocrite springs to mind.

Hypocrisy of the highest order.

Where have I ever said I would prefer to play elsewhere to stay in blue? stop making things up.

No U turns here. I've said from the start that your point is totally irrelevant & it still is.

IT WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN SO WHY IS IT RELEVANT.

Relegation in blue last year or promotion in red?

First choice for me. Easily.

Well Well you can't even join the group you speak so highly of.
The word hypocrite springs to mind.

Hypocrisy of the highest order.

I don't want to be on the committee. I've attended their committee meetings, but don't wish to appear at committee level. I am, however, a supporter of their work.

Why do I have to be a committee member to defend them?

If you are not in BU you are now called a Red.

This is Dividing our fans.

If you are not in BU you are now called a Red.

This is Dividing our fans.

Tan divided our fans, yet you appear to love him.

Chuckles, I am not in Bluebirds Unite so would you consider me or a fan in my position a supporter of red? What is a fan who buys the yellow kit? Are they pro reds or sellouts as well as yellow featured before the rebrand plenty of times.

Where have I ever said I would prefer to play elsewhere to stay in blue? stop making things up.

No U turns here. I've said from the start that your point is totally irrelevant & it still is.

IT WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN SO WHY IS IT RELEVANT.

Relegation in blue last year or promotion in red?

First choice for me. Easily.

trying to save face barry oh dear not going happen, ive never said you would prefer to play elsewhere to stay in blue.

your getting desperate.

Chuckles, I am not in Bluebirds Unite so would you consider me or a fan in my position a supporter of red? What is a fan who buys the yellow kit? Are they pro reds or sellouts as well as yellow featured before the rebrand plenty of times.

I'd consider you a supporter of red, because of your stance you've posted on here in many different guises. That doesn't mean to say that you're a "sell out" as some would label, just means that you hold the tradition of a CCFC blue home jersey in less importance than others.

BU's biggest problems are the extreme fans who want to see Tan leave immediately to return to blue. BUs cause isn't that & therefore there will always be a different clash.

Sme are looking for a utopian protest.

My thoughts are, if you want the blue jersey back at home, join BU as to me, that's the best way of getting it back right now.

trying to save face barry oh dear not going happen, ive never said you would prefer to play elsewhere to stay in blue.

your getting desperate.

You really are going around in circles here. Why have I done "a 180" then, if you acknowledge I haven't changed my stance at all.

You can't debate for toffee, fair play. no wonder Roathy made mince meat of you in your previous debates.

In my view, your point about rather being in red than move elsewhere was totally irrelevant. I've said that from the start and have continued to say it. No "180" here.

Keep digging.

If someone buys the blue rebrand kit are they a sellout or a supporter of red? Surely buying the blue rebrand kit and the yellow rebrand kit is of equal right. Both colours featured before the rebrand as CCFC colours and both have the rebrand badge.

I don't think I'll join Bluebirds Unite. Although I wish them well in their aims to return us to blue I think the minority of idiots who post racist comments towards Tan and so forth would annoy me and make me get the wrong perception further of the group than I currently do as all I know about said things at the moment is hearsay.

I will buy the yellow kit and wear my blue and white retro bluebird scarf. I think thats right for me and includes blue and white on the scarf and yellow on the kit.

Rudy divides fans, Whittingham divides fans, the CCS divides fans and Malky divides fans. The BU are supporters of Cardiff city but are hell bent on alienating large swathes of our support, to me this is worse than what Tan has done. From the outset the BU have attempted to bully and intimidate their way through our fan base but we are not easily moved.

I am pro Cardiff city, I will not be told what to do by a juvenile group full of ego maniacs.

trying to save face barry oh dear not going happen, ive never said you would prefer to play elsewhere to stay in blue.

your getting desperate.

You really are going around in circles here. Why have I done "a 180" then, if you acknowledge I haven't changed my stance at all.

You can't debate for toffee, fair play. no wonder Roathy made mince meat of you in your previous debates.

In my view, your point about rather being in red than move elsewhere was totally irrelevant. I've said that from the start and have continued to say it. No "180" here.

Keep digging.

no my friend your the one whos digging. How can you agree with a point you perceive to be irrelevant. Whether a move would have happened to us or not is an irrelevant point I was only highlighting which situation I would prefer to be in, a point you called irrelevant, then agreed with then called it irrelevant again. Id say thats spinning around

You can easily agree with a point but still feel its totally irrelevant to the topic.

I'm sure you would prefer to wear a red CCFC shirt than wear a Swansea shirt?

Totally irrelevant to this topic, but still something you can agree with.

Dear me, you're hard work.

You can easily agree with a point but still feel its totally irrelevant to the topic.

I'm sure you would prefer to wear a red CCFC shirt than wear a Swansea shirt?

Totally irrelevant to this topic, but still something you can agree with.

Dear me, you're hard work.

but it is relevant you just dont want it to be

oh dear your hard work argue for the sake of arguing pretending to be all superior your boring sad and pathetic glad so much hasnt changed since school.

I agree with Barry Chuckle, but it's irrelevant yet i still agree with Barry Chuckle.

Have I missed something, I thought Portsmouth went into admin. Didn't Tan cough up saving us doing a Portsmouth and Coventry. If he has a fancy for Red up your offer and put us back in blue. I think you'll find we are staying Red having a Club paying its way. Like I said earlier I believe Tans offer at the time was the only one. If there was no other offer and Tan didn't come forward History it certainly looked like a Portsmouth. This Club has never been so Professional and healthy.

Yes, but the poster was looking for a comparison as what would have happened had Tan not got involved. please read it correctly.

No thanks, I'm perfectly entitled to have an opinion about the running of a club, without you telling me I need to put my money up for it.

Professional? healthy? It's in MORE debt than ever before.

It is clear had Tan not put up it was Admin at the best.

Your opinion has little effect on the decision to go red, Tans money did .

Yes everyone with any business common sees the Club as 100% more professional, Tan is managing the debt and like it or not the piper calls the tune.

Rudy divides fans, Whittingham divides fans, the CCS divides fans and Malky divides fans. The BU are supporters of Cardiff city but are hell bent on alienating large swathes of our support, to me this is worse than what Tan has done. From the outset the BU have attempted to bully and intimidate their way through our fan base but we are not easily moved.

I am pro Cardiff city, I will not be told what to do by a juvenile group full of ego maniacs.

Couldn't have put it better well said and there are 20.000 others at least agree Key word CARDIFF CITY F.C.

CCFCBLUE. My opinion is .. I am not pro blu or red but Pro Cardiff.
I won't ever wear red to associate myself with Cardiff but nor would I ever criticise a fan for doing so.
I view fans who wear red as FANS!! I view fans who refuse it point blankly as FANS!!!
I view a minority of fans who seem fit to call themselves better fans because of what they believe as Idiotic but still FANS!!

But instead of taking the fight to the man responsible they just point fingers and call name towards their fellow FANS!!

This mirrors my feelings exactly but, like the vast majority of fans, would rather be back in blue.

We are all Cardiff City. Blue, Red or polka dot. Jesus just get behind the team. Silent majority will always win out over the vocal few. BU will be dust by the end of the season. The only thing that can possibly keep its flame flickering will be Cardiff City in the bottom three all season and finally relegated.

THE Blue issue. Be Honest reds you don't care what colour City play in as long as your watching good football Traditionalist's like myself and many others however do? Join the movement and help us return to Tradition. All we want is our identity returned. CCFC COME ON BLUEBIRDS.

Let's all just join the 'Support Cardiff City FC' movement instead, shall we?

Now that would be a novel idea!

THE Blue issue. Be Honest reds you don't care what colour City play in as long as your watching good football Traditionalist's like myself and many others however do? Join the movement and help us return to Tradition. All we want is our identity returned. CCFC COME ON BLUEBIRDS.

Let's all just join the 'Support Cardiff City FC' movement instead, shall we?

Now that would be a novel idea!

It sounds to be the blue brigade were supporting the team at Forest Green, Cheltenham and tonight at Brentford. I would imagine that support will continue through the season so don't worry your head over that.

The carping and school yard point scoring has ruined yet another thread.

This is the reason I and many like me have turned away from posting on here.

I don't mind debate but I'm afraid the level yet again has hit the floor.

Is this not a post, mate?

Rudy divides fans, Whittingham divides fans, the CCS divides fans and Malky divides fans. The BU are supporters of Cardiff city but are hell bent on alienating large swathes of our support, to me this is worse than what Tan has done. From the outset the BU have attempted to bully and intimidate their way through our fan base but we are not easily moved.

I am pro Cardiff city, I will not be told what to do by a juvenile group full of ego maniacs.

My thoughts exactly, Bluebirds Unite is a name filled with irony as they are dividing the fans more than they ever were before they came about.

Rudy divides fans, Whittingham divides fans, the CCS divides fans and Malky divides fans. The BU are supporters of Cardiff city but are hell bent on alienating large swathes of our support, to me this is worse than what Tan has done. From the outset the BU have attempted to bully and intimidate their way through our fan base but we are not easily moved.

I am pro Cardiff city, I will not be told what to do by a juvenile group full of ego maniacs.

Couldn't have put it better well said and there are 20.000 others at least agree Key word CARDIFF CITY F.C.

I know a lot of City fans and don't know anyone who is a member of Bluebirds Unite. We're all chuffed to bits we still have a team, and a Premier League team at that!

And before people accuse us of glory hunting, we were there in Division 3 as well!

pro cardiff not colour. but it is important that we dont rollover. i was more pissed with badge than colour change. just do protests peacefull and keep posts chav free.

THE Blue issue. Be Honest reds you don't care what colour City play in as long as your watching good football Traditionalist's like myself and many others however do? Join the movement and help us return to Tradition. All we want is our identity returned. CCFC COME ON BLUEBIRDS.

Just out of interest what was your opinion on the stadium rebrand when it happened? I mean 100 years of history, tradition and identity reduced to rubble? It was done for extra revenue, sponsorship and for us to survive