Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:51 pm
factgasm wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:A bit pathetic to be honest. Why should she apologise ? She has always said she is new to this and will make mistakes. She may say things she should not. FFS The lass has put a tremendous effort to get this group going and has a heart of gold. This young Lady has kept this group together and as it gets bigger it will get a harder job. She has nothing to opologise for in my opinion. Some on here are trying to take her down because she frightens the hell out of you. That is your problem.
Bluebirds Unite is the way forward to getting our identity back. Get used to BU coz its getting bigger and on the march. And Coming to a football match near you.![]()
Throughout the centuries, the English have found it piss-easy to conquer and to oppress the Welsh - because the Welsh couldn't get their bloody act together to defeat the English.
For more than fifty years, Cardiff City languished in the lower reaches of the football league, ridiculed for their under performance. The along come a Scotsman and a Malaysian to show us the error of ours and to rearm us for the fight ahead - and what is the response of certain sections of the fan-base? The sanctimonious, self-indulgent drivel above.
I tell ya, there's one thing that the Welsh have historically been good at - and that's division among themselves. Here we stand, on the eve of entering the promised land and here some of you are acting like deluded self-appointed busy-bodies, militant little trade-unionists, hell bent on wrecking this exciting new era in the club's history even before its begun. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for what your small-minded bitterness is doing to Cardiff City.
This club's enemies - and there are plenty of those I assure you - are absolutely pissing themselves with laughter. You BUs couldn't be doing a better job of hamstringing our club if you were a bunch of Jacks.
The real enemy isn't within the club, it's out there. It's the like of Chelsea and Arsenal, Swansea and Manchester United. They are the enemy, not anyone within the club. If you want anyone to hate, then focus your tiny little minds on our league opposition, because when they come to Cardiff, they will come in their hoards, with their best warriors and their best weapons and rest assured they will put us to the sword if they can. You want to repeat the mistakes from history?
By creating Bluebirds Unite, you are doing the very opposite of what you claim. You are not uniting the club, you are creating division within it, you are creating an us-and-them, you silly sods. Either you are a Cardiff City fan, or you are not; there is no in between, no special groups and no cliques. Your only loyalty is to the club and to nothing else.
If you can't handle that, then go and support a different club.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:51 pm
factgasm wrote:If you can't handle that, then go and support a different club.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:54 pm
factgasm wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:A bit pathetic to be honest. Why should she apologise ? She has always said she is new to this and will make mistakes. She may say things she should not. FFS The lass has put a tremendous effort to get this group going and has a heart of gold. This young Lady has kept this group together and as it gets bigger it will get a harder job. She has nothing to opologise for in my opinion. Some on here are trying to take her down because she frightens the hell out of you. That is your problem.
Bluebirds Unite is the way forward to getting our identity back. Get used to BU coz its getting bigger and on the march. And Coming to a football match near you.![]()
Throughout the centuries, the English have found it piss-easy to conquer and to oppress the Welsh - because the Welsh couldn't get their bloody act together to defeat the English.
For more than fifty years, Cardiff City languished in the lower reaches of the football league, ridiculed for their under performance. The along come a Scotsman and a Malaysian to show us the error of ours and to rearm us for the fight ahead - and what is the response of certain sections of the fan-base? The sanctimonious, self-indulgent drivel above.
I tell ya, there's one thing that the Welsh have historically been good at - and that's division among themselves. Here we stand, on the eve of entering the promised land and here some of you are acting like deluded self-appointed busy-bodies, militant little trade-unionists, hell bent on wrecking this exciting new era in the club's history even before its begun. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for what you are doing to Cardiff City.
This club's enemies - and there are plenty of those I assure you - are absolutely pissing themselves with laughter. You BUs couldn't be doing a better job of hamstringing our club if you were a bunch of Jacks.
The real enemy isn't within the club, it's out there. It's the like of Chelsea and Arsenal, Swansea and Manchester United. They are the enemy, not anyone within the club. If you want anyone to hate, then focus your tiny little minds on our league opposition, because when they come to Cardiff, they will come in their hoards, with their best warriors and their best weapons and rest assured they will put us to the sword if they can. You want to repeat the mistakes from history?
By creating Bluebirds Unite, you are doing the very opposite of what you claim. You are not uniting the club, you are creating division within it, you are creating an us-and-them, you silly sods. Either you a Cardiff City fan, or you are not; there is no in between,no special groups and no cliques. Your only loyalty is to the club and to nothing else.
If you can't handle that, then go and support a different club.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:03 pm
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:07 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:factgasm wrote:If you can't handle that, then go and support a different club.
Who the hell do you think you are telling people to support a different club?
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:16 pm
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:I personally didn't think that the various renditions of 'we'll always be blue' I heard last night were very supportive of the team.It's just so f'n negative.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:17 pm
factgasm wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:A bit pathetic to be honest. Why should she apologise ? She has always said she is new to this and will make mistakes. She may say things she should not. FFS The lass has put a tremendous effort to get this group going and has a heart of gold. This young Lady has kept this group together and as it gets bigger it will get a harder job. She has nothing to opologise for in my opinion. Some on here are trying to take her down because she frightens the hell out of you. That is your problem.
Bluebirds Unite is the way forward to getting our identity back. Get used to BU coz its getting bigger and on the march. And Coming to a football match near you.![]()
Throughout the centuries, the English have found it piss-easy to conquer and to oppress the Welsh - because the Welsh couldn't get their bloody act together to defeat the English.
For more than fifty years, Cardiff City languished in the lower reaches of the football league, ridiculed for their under performance. The along come a Scotsman and a Malaysian to show us the error of ours and to rearm us for the fight ahead - and what is the response of certain sections of the fan-base? The sanctimonious, self-indulgent drivel above.
I tell ya, there's one thing that the Welsh have historically been good at - and that's division among themselves. Here we stand, on the eve of entering the promised land and here some of you are acting like deluded self-appointed busy-bodies, militant little trade-unionists, hell bent on wrecking this exciting new era in the club's history even before its begun. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for what you are doing to Cardiff City.
This club's enemies - and there are plenty of those I assure you - are absolutely pissing themselves with laughter. You BUs couldn't be doing a better job of hamstringing our club if you were a bunch of Jacks.
The real enemy isn't within the club, it's out there. It's the like of Chelsea and Arsenal, Swansea and Manchester United. They are the enemy, not anyone within the club. If you want anyone to hate, then focus your tiny little minds on our league opposition, because when they come to Cardiff, they will come in their hoards, with their best warriors and their best weapons and rest assured they will put us to the sword if they can. You want to repeat the mistakes from history?
By creating Bluebirds Unite, you are doing the very opposite of what you claim. You are not uniting the club, you are creating division within it, you are creating an us-and-them, you silly sods. Either you a Cardiff City fan, or you are not; there is no in between,no special groups and no cliques. Your only loyalty is to the club and to nothing else.
If you can't handle that, then go and support a different club.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:17 pm
factgasm wrote:
To repeat, if you do not see winning football matches as the core reason for the club's existence, then you are associating yourself with it for the wrong reasons.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:18 pm
factgasm wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:A bit pathetic to be honest. Why should she apologise ? She has always said she is new to this and will make mistakes. She may say things she should not. FFS The lass has put a tremendous effort to get this group going and has a heart of gold. This young Lady has kept this group together and as it gets bigger it will get a harder job. She has nothing to opologise for in my opinion. Some on here are trying to take her down because she frightens the hell out of you. That is your problem.
Bluebirds Unite is the way forward to getting our identity back. Get used to BU coz its getting bigger and on the march. And Coming to a football match near you.![]()
Throughout the centuries, the English have found it piss-easy to conquer and to oppress the Welsh - because the Welsh couldn't get their bloody act together to defeat the English.
For more than fifty years, Cardiff City languished in the lower reaches of the football league, ridiculed for their under performance. The along come a Scotsman and a Malaysian to show us the error of ours and to rearm us for the fight ahead - and what is the response of certain sections of the fan-base? The sanctimonious, self-indulgent drivel above.
I tell ya, there's one thing that the Welsh have historically been good at - and that's division among themselves. Here we stand, on the eve of entering the promised land and here some of you are acting like deluded self-appointed busy-bodies, militant little trade-unionists, hell bent on wrecking this exciting new era in the club's history even before its begun. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for what you are doing to Cardiff City.
This club's enemies - and there are plenty of those I assure you - are absolutely pissing themselves with laughter. You BUs couldn't be doing a better job of hamstringing our club if you were a bunch of Jacks.
The real enemy isn't within the club, it's out there. It's the like of Chelsea and Arsenal, Swansea and Manchester United. They are the enemy, not anyone within the club. If you want anyone to hate, then focus your tiny little minds on our league opposition, because when they come to Cardiff, they will come in their hoards, with their best warriors and their best weapons and rest assured they will put us to the sword if they can. You want to repeat the mistakes from history?
By creating Bluebirds Unite, you are doing the very opposite of what you claim. You are not uniting the club, you are creating division within it, you are creating an us-and-them, you silly sods. Either you a Cardiff City fan, or you are not; there is no in between,no special groups and no cliques. Your only loyalty is to the club and to nothing else.
If you can't handle that, then go and support a different club.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:25 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:I personally didn't think that the various renditions of 'we'll always be blue' I heard last night were very supportive of the team.It's just so f'n negative.
Oh but the songs last season about Jimmy Savile being Joe Allen's dad & England being full of shit are so positive towards the team, aren't they?!![]()
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:35 pm
redordead wrote:
well said.
All this constant attack on VT,Borley and other Cardiff City fans is divisive and Imo will cost us dearly in our assault on the premier league.
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:FGasm,
stimulating and challenging posts.
. . . .
There are plenty just waiting for us to fail so why help give them the satisfaction?
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:40 pm
ELY BOY wrote:Great reasoning, let's tar everyone with the same brush. I hate Vincent Tan but also support BU. Cardiff City fans making themselves out to be whiter than white after selling the clubs soul for success haha it's laughable.
I love the way some of you paint the people sticking up for tradition as the bad people. If there was a war I can tell you who I would rather have in my corner, people who stick up for there principles and values, not sheep who will do anything for money and success.
Some of you make me sick to my stomach and embarrassed that I am a Cardiff fan.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:44 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:To repeat, who the hell are you to tell people to go and support another team because they disagree with your views?!
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:51 pm
factgasm wrote:redordead wrote:
well said.
All this constant attack on VT,Borley and other Cardiff City fans is divisive and Imo will cost us dearly in our assault on the premier league.C. Rombie-Coat wrote:FGasm,
stimulating and challenging posts.
. . . .
There are plenty just waiting for us to fail so why help give them the satisfaction?
Have seen the movie 300? That movie about the Spartans and the Battle of Thermopylae, the "Hot Gates"?
You know how it was that the King Leonidas and his 300 were lost?
It's because Xerxes had a spy named Theron within Sparta itself who set about bribing Sparta's Elders. The Elders corruptly took Theron's gold and in return they forbade Leonidas taking Sparta's Army to defeat Xerxes. Leonidas was reduced to a bodyguard of no more than 300.
http://0.tqn.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/L/D/3PUBF-0107.jpg
The 300, led by their brave King Leonidas, mustered an heroic defence, but despite their extraordinary bravery, they all perished. Sparta lost its King because of traitors within the City's walls.
Alex 'Xerxes' Ferguson was a master of mind games. He knew just how to rankle his enemies. He looked for weaknesses, he knew where to probe; he knew where to find the weak spots and he capitalized upon it, time and time and time again.
Ferguson may have retired but other will use his trickery against us. They will look for weaknesses, they will look for division among us and they will look to drive a wedge wherever they can. Our enemies need look no further than BU for encouragement.
Our enemies will already know much about them. And who knows, just like Theron in Sparta, that traitor to brave Leonidas, BU's orchestrators may also well be in the pay of our enemies too.
BU is nothing but a big giant target painted on the club for our enemies to aim at.
Well, this is Cardiff City and I say DEATH TO SPIES.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:02 pm
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:Smersh?!
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:History is a great teacher but I wouldn't have put it quite that way.
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:How about 'a house divided against itself cannot stand.'
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:03 pm
factgasm wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:To repeat, who the hell are you to tell people to go and support another team because they disagree with your views?!
You don't support the club, you support a colour, so it stands to reason you should go elsewhere.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:10 pm
classic.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:24 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Classic... Coat claims chants like we will always be blue are not positive for the team, yet endorses songs about a Jimmy Saville &England bei full of shot (despite us having more Englishmen in our side than Welsh)classic.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:25 pm
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:30 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Classic... Coat claims chants like we will always be blue are not positive for the team, yet endorses songs about a Jimmy Saville &England bei full of shot (despite us having more Englishmen in our side than Welsh)classic.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:31 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:So now you're telling me what I support now, as well as telling me who to support.
Get over yourself.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:33 pm
factgasm wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:So now you're telling me what I support now, as well as telling me who to support.
Get over yourself.
Good of you to sport Cardiff City's new red club tie, Barry.![]()
http://www.cardiffcityfcstore.com/store/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=TIE___CUFFLINK_SET
okay.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:37 pm
robinsonisgod7 wrote:It's an interesting one as I have been saying it on their Facebook page for a while now that they need to stop people saying dumb 'throwaway comments'. Given that VT had a couple of deaths in his family lately (one of which was a car crash?) it's stupid and disrespectful, not to mention insensitive (the accident was real - someone could have actually been hurt).
IT WILL HURT THE BU CAUSE IF THESE IDIOTS KEEP SPOUTING SHITE LIKE IT IS GOING OUT OF FASHION
Thankfully there are some sensible BU members - but the majority of Cardiff City FC fans won't join an organisation which has more than a hint of cluelessness about it.
I genuinely hope Sian and BU pull the reigns in on things like this before it gets worse.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:09 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:factgasm wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:So now you're telling me what I support now, as well as telling me who to support.
Get over yourself.
Good of you to sport Cardiff City's new red club tie, Barry.![]()
http://www.cardiffcityfcstore.com/store/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=TIE___CUFFLINK_SET
So you can't counter my post, so try personal attacks instead.okay.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:19 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:You're wrong. Those songs do less harm than the songs I mentioned, yet I didn't see you whinging about them..![]()
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PS. I'm not Roath.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:20 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:factgasm wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:So now you're telling me what I support now, as well as telling me who to support.
Get over yourself.
Good of you to sport Cardiff City's new red club tie, Barry.![]()
http://www.cardiffcityfcstore.com/store/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=TIE___CUFFLINK_SET
So you can't counter my post, so try personal attacks instead.okay.
Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:16 pm
factgasm wrote:JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.
You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.
Let me put that argument back at you with its logical extension: Would you stop supporting Cardiff City if a faction of its fans went around routinely committing acts of murder?
The petty-mindedness of BU's campaign is best seen in relation to other potentially equally damaging campaigns that could be taken up at a moment's notice:
The Return to Ninian Park.
The removal of sponsorship from shirts.
Having players paid in pounds, shillings and pence in small brown envelopes.
Games broadcast in black and white only.
Forcing fans to attend matches in their Sunday Best.
Forcing players to live on a diet of beer and suet and style their hair using Brylcreem.
The club only buys players whose main job is working down a coal mine or in a steel mill.
Admittance only to those sporting sideburns and flares.
The club only buys players fluent in Welsh and only admit fans to the ground that do too.
The club bans smart phones from the ground.
Its easy to look good, scoring political points with certain sections of the fan-base by giving the impression that you're defending the club's traditions; some sections of the fan-base are so confused they get a kick from being a thorn in the club's hierarchy, but actually leading a club to real success is hard.
There is no more reason to support the BU cause than any of the above potential campaigns and given that they are all as equally ludicrous and destructive as each other, no Cardiff City fan should have anything to do with any of them at all.
Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:52 am
Sven Ghali wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Jules wrote:JonCCFC wrote:That's a comment from one person who the group.
You wouldn't stop supporting Cardiff City because a Cardiff fan murdered someone.
so do you think its a stupid comment?
Yes, death isn't something to joke about
YOU mentioned death, JonCCFC. I don't see it mentioned until YOU came on and ruined yet another thread with your childish antics and responses![]()
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Of course, you will now say I'm picking on you or I'm a prick or I don't know what I'm talking about or I'm a Primary School teacher or you don't like my style of writing, etc.![]()
It couldn't possibly be that I just think you are one of the worst posters on this site or that you are so easily caught out by an increasing number of people, eh?![]()
Anything rather than considered debate, JonCCFC and that is the the domain of an ignorant young man![]()
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Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:04 am
JonCCFC wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking hell scraping the bottom of the barrell for an attack on Bluebirds Unite. A throw away comment FFS. Some on here are such goody two shoes![]()
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Just looking for excuses to have a go at BU as they know it's getting stronger and stronger
Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:05 am
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Fooking hell scraping the bottom of the barrell for an attack on Bluebirds Unite. A throw away comment FFS. Some on here are such goody two shoes![]()
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Just looking for excuses to have a go at BU as they know it's getting stronger and stronger
Is it? I completely forgot about their existence until I saw this halirious thread.