How will our fans cope?

Anyway, im off now.

keep trying to justify verbally abusing me.

The Premier League is mental. You look at the fixture list and ear mark winnable games, the likes of Fulham, Sunderland, Wigan etc etc

The thing is, when you actually kick off, you realise how good they are. Someone like Fulham, teams you don't really think of as being excellent sides, has the potential to crush you 5-0 on their day. the passing, finishing, defending, tackling, pace is something just not seen in the Championship and you certainly cant appreciate it by watching it on MOTD or on TV. first hand, its immense football.

You have to be prepared to lose against ANYONE, if you have that mentality going into the league then your fans wont let their frustrations get onto the pitch.

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Agreed Mr Tom, but you have also got to go into every game with a positive mental attitude. Players and fans alike.

"You have to be prepared to lose against ANYONE, if you have that mentality going into the league then your fans wont let their frustrations get onto the pitch"

You also have to be prepared to WIN against ANYONE - I strongly believe we wont struggle as much as some on here seem to think - YES I would be happy to finish forth from bottom at the season close but do believe we can finish top 12 - Because Malky's style of play will confuse some teams.

I may be a dreamer but DREAM ON eh !!!!! - We have waited long enough for it.

With Cardiff over the past couple of years we have always been competing at the higher end of the championship table and for the majority of these games we had a lot of possession of the ball, we looked quite comfortable against the opposition, had a lot of chances on goal. So as fans it has been quite easy to feel a bit relaxed and get behind the team (sometimes).

I was just thinking now that we are in a division that has potentially 19 teams that are going to be better than we are how are our fans going to cope with the team not having a lot of the ball? Not having as many chances on goal? and most importantly potentially losing the majority of our games?

Do you think we as Cardiff fans are going to be more vocal as the under dogs? For example the game against Leicester when Gypes got sent off and the entire Canton stand sang for the rest of the game. Or do you think if we're 20 minutes into a game 2-0 down fans are going to walk to the bars early or just leave?

I honestly believe or maybe its just hope that being the underdogs is going to make the atmosphere immense and the CCS is going to be rocking for the full 90 minutes for the majority of our games next season.

What's peoples opinions??

good post....this will show what our fans are made of.....first couple of defeats will be taken on the chin.....then they will show true colours and walk early....but thats just my opinion..

Ive watched cardiff lose for years so next season will be no different. You support your team whatever.

Evidence of this? Attendances show to be the same.

The capacity of the Liberty Stadium used to be 20,500. As last season progressed, additional seating was squeezed into areas where it could be accommodated. This is evidenced by the fact the some of our attendances were higher than the previous 20,500 capacity. This, along with changes to the segregation area (i.e it becoming non existent!) has freed up additional seating which can be sold as season ticket seats.

There were plans in the summer to relocate the press and free up those seats for fans but this didn't go ahead due (I understand) to the early start of the Europa League.

As of a couple of months ago, there was a season ticket waiting list of 8,000 people.

Evidence of this? Attendances show to be the same.

The capacity of the Liberty Stadium used to be 20,500. As last season progressed, additional seating was squeezed into areas where it could be accommodated. This is evidenced by the fact the some of our attendances were higher than the previous 20,500 capacity. This, along with changes to the segregation area (i.e it becoming non existent!) has freed up additional seating which can be sold as season ticket seats.

There were plans in the summer to relocate the press and free up those seats for fans but this didn't go ahead due (I understand) to the early start of the Europa League.

As of a couple of months ago, there was a season ticket waiting list of 8,000 people.

Fair enough.

Be interesting to see what would happen to your ST waiting list, if you went down (not that it looks likely).

Evidence of this? Attendances show to be the same.

The capacity of the Liberty Stadium used to be 20,500. As last season progressed, additional seating was squeezed into areas where it could be accommodated. This is evidenced by the fact the some of our attendances were higher than the previous 20,500 capacity. This, along with changes to the segregation area (i.e it becoming non existent!) has freed up additional seating which can be sold as season ticket seats.

There were plans in the summer to relocate the press and free up those seats for fans but this didn't go ahead due (I understand) to the early start of the Europa League.

As of a couple of months ago, there was a season ticket waiting list of 8,000 people.

Fair enough.

Be interesting to see what would happen to your ST waiting list, if you went down (not that it looks likely).

It would remain for the 1st year probably simply due to the fact that these days, fans are forced to buy ST's and register an interest way before the end of the season. If we were to stay down though it would inevitably drop off.

It would remain for the 1st year probably simply due to the fact that these days, fans are forced to buy ST's and register an interest way before the end of the season. If we were to stay down though it would inevitably drop off.

That's true. We were made to renew by March. The amount of newcomers is quite staggering though.

It would remain for the 1st year probably simply due to the fact that these days, fans are forced to buy ST's and register an interest way before the end of the season. If we were to stay down though it would inevitably drop off.

That's true. We were made to renew by March. The amount of newcomers is quite staggering though.

Our renewal date is now the end of March. They tried pushing end of February on us but due to complaints changed it to March.

Newcomers are inevitable I guess as success breeds interest. As long as a decent percentage get hooked and stay with us in the event of relegation then I'm fine with it

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

Was it? Despite my better half being a ST with you lot, I don't keep that keen an eye on you lot. I'm not Cardiff's version of Roathie...

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

Was it? Despite my better half being a ST with you lot, I don't keep that keen an eye on you lot. I'm not Cardiff's version of Roathie...

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

yep and we all know how much importance is placed on friendlies? well suppose swans have to have some sort of hope to cling to?

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

yep and we all know how much importance is placed on friendlies? well suppose swans have to have some sort of hope to cling to?

Yep, because we're really in the "need to cling on to the hope friendly results produce" area hey Al

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

yep and we all know how much importance is placed on friendlies? well suppose swans have to have some sort of hope to cling to?

Yep, because we're really in the "need to cling on to the hope friendly results produce" area hey Al

was answering your fan saying how great it was to have good result in friendly, as you know friendly results don't mean fck all! I or do you think it matters?

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

yep and we all know how much importance is placed on friendlies? well suppose swans have to have some sort of hope to cling to?

Yep, because we're really in the "need to cling on to the hope friendly results produce" area hey Al

was answering your fan saying how great it was to have good result in friendly, as you know friendly results don't mean fck all! I or do you think it matters?

They mean little but I'm happy with 5 games played 22 goals for and 1 against and with the new players blending in well

Yep. I can't see relegation being an issue with you lot this season anyway... I'll get slaughtered for saying that mind.

Another decent pre season result for us tonight as well

yep and we all know how much importance is placed on friendlies? well suppose swans have to have some sort of hope to cling to?

Yep, because we're really in the "need to cling on to the hope friendly results produce" area hey Al

was answering your fan saying how great it was to have good result in friendly, as you know friendly results don't mean fck all! I or do you think it matters?

They mean little but I'm happy with 5 games played 22 goals for and 1 against and with the new players blending in well

little things please little minds! because according to your lot premier is hardest league in world and we will be relegated, so you must be playing premier standard teams to be happy with results!

little things please little minds! because according to your lot premier is hardest league in world and we will be relegated, so you must be playing premier standard teams to be happy with results!

Eh? We're just playing the standard of the league that you just left

little things please little minds! because according to your lot premier is hardest league in world and we will be relegated, so you must be playing premier standard teams to be happy with results!

I think its past your bedtime sonny, you are embarrassing yourself now..

nite nite

little things please little minds! because according to your lot premier is hardest league in world and we will be relegated, so you must be playing premier standard teams to be happy with results!

Eh? We're just playing the standard of the league that you just left

So you reckon the team you beat 10-0 are championship standard do you?

Better crowd than I expected but not a full house with all those well known European " stars " point proven me thinks.

With Cardiff over the past couple of years we have always been competing at the higher end of the championship table and for the majority of these games we had a lot of possession of the ball, we looked quite comfortable against the opposition, had a lot of chances on goal. So as fans it has been quite easy to feel a bit relaxed and get behind the team (sometimes).

I was just thinking now that we are in a division that has potentially 19 teams that are going to be better than we are how are our fans going to cope with the team not having a lot of the ball? Not having as many chances on goal? and most importantly potentially losing the majority of our games?

Do you think we as Cardiff fans are going to be more vocal as the under dogs? For example the game against Leicester when Gypes got sent off and the entire Canton stand sang for the rest of the game. Or do you think if we're 20 minutes into a game 2-0 down fans are going to walk to the bars early or just leave?

I honestly believe or maybe its just hope that being the underdogs is going to make the atmosphere immense and the CCS is going to be rocking for the full 90 minutes for the majority of our games next season.

What's peoples opinions??

Most Cardiff fans aren't stupid and will expect a hard time to start with. With the odd exception, we will be patient, so long as we see effort and progress