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Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:44 am

Tom_Ince wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Wow.. When we sell them all, which we will... It will be a sell out. No matter how quickly they are bought up, it's the same attendance. :lol:

With one MONTH to go, as many on here have already said, they will buy closer to the date.


Of course it matters. I it takes weeks to sell your allocation then it suggests there isn't much interest past the amount you have been given. If it sells out in a day or two with people unable to get tickets suggests the demand is much greater.


No, it doesn't matter. I've never seen attendance figures accompanied by "time it took to sell allocation". :lol:

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:49 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tom_Ince wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Wow.. When we sell them all, which we will... It will be a sell out. No matter how quickly they are bought up, it's the same attendance. :lol:

With one MONTH to go, as many on here have already said, they will buy closer to the date.


Of course it matters. I it takes weeks to sell your allocation then it suggests there isn't much interest past the amount you have been given. If it sells out in a day or two with people unable to get tickets suggests the demand is much greater.


No, it doesn't matter. I've never seen attendance figures accompanied by "time it took to sell allocation". :lol:


Yes, it does matter. As I've already told you, the length of time it takes for an event to sell out determines demand.

When Glastonbury tickets go on sale do you reckon there would be tickets left after a few weeks of sale? No chance. The tickets are highly in demand and thus the owners can then determine whether to increase the size of e area or ticket price according to demand.

If you think the length of time an event takes to sell out is meaningless then you really have no grasp on marketing.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:55 am

£42 voucher exchange messed about by the met played there recently over 4 weeks till kick off,

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:58 am

bluecityblue wrote:£42 voucher exchange messed about by the met played there recently over 4 weeks till kick off,


Played there recently :lol:

I really done get this? You have 18,000 season ticket holders that go to the same ground every other week and don't complain. 500,000 fans according to annis on sky news yet can't sell 3,000 because you have played there recently?

Doesn't quite stack up does it?

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:09 am

Tom_Ince wrote:
bluecityblue wrote:£42 voucher exchange messed about by the met played there recently over 4 weeks till kick off,


Played there recently :lol:

I really done get this? You have 18,000 season ticket holders that go to the same ground every other week and don't complain. 500,000 fans according to annis on sky news yet can't sell 3,000 because you have played there recently?

Doesn't quite stack up does it?

Fair point, but only 1000 - 3000 who go away every other week, most of who have been there a couple of times recently, hence maybe the reason their not rushing to go this time. There is still plenty of time to sell the tickets.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:09 am

Tom_Ince wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tom_Ince wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Wow.. When we sell them all, which we will... It will be a sell out. No matter how quickly they are bought up, it's the same attendance. :lol:

With one MONTH to go, as many on here have already said, they will buy closer to the date.


Of course it matters. I it takes weeks to sell your allocation then it suggests there isn't much interest past the amount you have been given. If it sells out in a day or two with people unable to get tickets suggests the demand is much greater.


No, it doesn't matter. I've never seen attendance figures accompanied by "time it took to sell allocation". :lol:


Yes, it does matter. As I've already told you, the length of time it takes for an event to sell out determines demand.

When Glastonbury tickets go on sale do you reckon there would be tickets left after a few weeks of sale? No chance. The tickets are highly in demand and thus the owners can then determine whether to increase the size of e area or ticket price according to demand.

If you think the length of time an event takes to sell out is meaningless then you really have no grasp on marketing.


It really doesn't matter. A sell out is a sell out, nobody judges by how many days it takes to sell, just on the number sold. :thumbup:

There's a month to go FFS.. :laughing6:

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:18 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tom_Ince wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tom_Ince wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Wow.. When we sell them all, which we will... It will be a sell out. No matter how quickly they are bought up, it's the same attendance. :lol:

With one MONTH to go, as many on here have already said, they will buy closer to the date.


Of course it matters. I it takes weeks to sell your allocation then it suggests there isn't much interest past the amount you have been given. If it sells out in a day or two with people unable to get tickets suggests the demand is much greater.


No, it doesn't matter. I've never seen attendance figures accompanied by "time it took to sell allocation". :lol:


Yes, it does matter. As I've already told you, the length of time it takes for an event to sell out determines demand.

When Glastonbury tickets go on sale do you reckon there would be tickets left after a few weeks of sale? No chance. The tickets are highly in demand and thus the owners can then determine whether to increase the size of e area or ticket price according to demand.

If you think the length of time an event takes to sell out is meaningless then you really have no grasp on marketing.


It really doesn't matter. A sell out is a sell out, nobody judges by how many days it takes to sell, just on the number sold. :thumbup:

There's a month to go FFS.. :laughing6:


its too late now, we've already given the dog its bone, its gonna run with it

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:56 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
It really doesn't matter. A sell out is a sell out, nobody judges by how many days it takes to sell, just on the number sold. :thumbup:

There's a month to go FFS.. :laughing6:


But that's not true in the slightest. It may be true for you, but MANY people judge how long it takes to sell the allocation. The demand is constantly under scrutiny.

If you can't see the difference between selling 3000 tickets in 48 hours and selling them in drins and drabs over the space of a month until an eventual sell out then again I'd question your marketing capabilities.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:08 am

3,000 tickets @ £42 each sold within 48 hours gives a return of £126,000!

3,000 tickets @ £42 each sold within 4 weeks gives a return of £126,000!

Get a life ffs!

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:18 am

Overthemoon wrote:3,000 tickets @ £42 each sold within 48 hours gives a return of £126,000!

3,000 tickets @ £42 each sold within 4 weeks gives a return of £126,000!

Get a life ffs!


But you are looking at it from one perspective, a perspective that isn't relevant to the theme of this thread.

The theme of this thread is about DEMAND not money. Demand cannot be measured in limited numbers, it gets measured in how quickly they get snapped up.

If I was a business selling clothing items and I sold all 3000 units in 48 hours with hundreds on online forums claiming they have missed out then I'd be pretty happy in ordering a lot more next time as the demand clearly outweighed the supply. If I sold all 3000 but over a long period of time then I'd be pretty happy to keep that level as there clearly isn't a huge demand.

You're kidding youselves... just like the half a million fans theory. All excuses and pie in the sky.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:21 am

You missed the bit where I said to get a life! :sleepy2:

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:23 am

Overthemoon wrote:You missed the bit where I said to get a life! :sleepy2:


No I didnt, I just didnt feel it was relevant to the thread, just like your point.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:37 am

Tom_Ince wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:You missed the bit where I said to get a life! :sleepy2:


No I didnt, I just didnt feel it was relevant to the thread, just like your point.
We are a bigger club than you i couldnt give a flying f**k what you lot do yet your obviously obsessed with us id never go on a shity swansea site f**k off an concentrate on you own team look at attendence figures through the years case closed f**k off! 8-)

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:42 am

royalblue wrote:
Tom_Ince wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:You missed the bit where I said to get a life! :sleepy2:


No I didnt, I just didnt feel it was relevant to the thread, just like your point.
We are a bigger club than you i couldnt give a flying f**k what you lot do yet your obviously obsessed with us id never go on a shity swansea site f**k off an concentrate on you own team look at attendence figures through the years case closed f**k off! 8-)


It's not looking good based on this fixture. But I respect your opinion but certainly don't agree with it.

A bigger club than us would have sold out by now.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:43 am

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Tom_Ince wrote:
royalblue wrote:
Tom_Ince wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:You missed the bit where I said to get a life! :sleepy2:


No I didnt, I just didnt feel it was relevant to the thread, just like your point.
We are a bigger club than you i couldnt give a flying f**k what you lot do yet your obviously obsessed with us id never go on a shity swansea site f**k off an concentrate on you own team look at attendence figures through the years case closed f**k off! 8-)


It's not looking good based on this fixture. But I respect your opinion but certainly don't agree with it.

A bigger club than us would have sold out by now.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:45 am

royalblue wrote::sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2:
Tom_Ince wrote:
royalblue wrote:
Tom_Ince wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:You missed the bit where I said to get a life! :sleepy2:


No I didnt, I just didnt feel it was relevant to the thread, just like your point.
We are a bigger club than you i couldnt give a flying f**k what you lot do yet your obviously obsessed with us id never go on a shity swansea site f**k off an concentrate on you own team look at attendence figures through the years case closed f**k off! 8-)


It's not looking good based on this fixture. But I respect your opinion but certainly don't agree with it.

A bigger club than us would have sold out by now.


Did you really have to quote it to say that? :lol:

Stop yawning and Buy a ticket there's a few left.

Anyway off now, hope you sell them soon. That extra £7 does sound a real nightmare in fairness :lol:

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:01 am

:wave:

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:20 am

If they brought back old away membership at the old cost id buy 2 right now. £40 boycott brigade here

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:42 am

The next player who turns Swansea down, I wonder if there will be a Cardiff fan posting on their forum as his name. Not a chance! Stupid, obsessed jack cunts!

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:41 pm

No, it may just be that most of the people who wanted to go weren't able to because of the away rules. Now that's changed a lot more tickets will be bought. If the ride wasn't expensive I would go.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:47 pm

£67 bus and ticket

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:38 pm

carlccfc wrote:The criteria to be eligible for a West Ham ticket was originally 3 aways, then dropped to 2 aways and today it is now open to all current season ticket holders and gold members.

I am genuinely surprised that we have not sold more tickets than we currently have, at a recent travel group meeting I stated that I believed we would sell our allocation for the first game regardless of the opposition.

Judging by sales so far it seems I am very wrong.

At this moment we have not sold 50% of our allocation.

Cardiff City are in the PL/top flight for the first time in 51 years.

Home crowds highest for over 40 years.

On Friday West Ham will want to know how many of our allocation we require. After the first 1,500 West Ham will sell us blocks of 500 at a time, which the club must purchase.

Last season we didn't sell out our allocation at games like Burnley, Hull, Boro, Birmingham, Leeds, Blackburn, Millwall, Charlton and Palace etc and at many of these games we were top of the league and ended up as our best season for 51 years.

So what are the reasons and is it worrying ??


Is it Premier League prices and are people saving for the top 6 teams ?

Is it a carryover from last season and the rebrand?

Is it the opposition?

Are we not as big a club as we think we are ?

First game sales look poor when in previous seasons we have always taken excellent support to our first away game regardless of the division?

Is it purely our fan base has changed and don't travel as much?

Can anyone think of a reason why our sales are slow and low ?


First option seems good, the re brand is just used as an excuse now.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:12 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:The Jacks sold 3,000 for their first premier game. That game was on a Monday night and on Sky. The cost of a ticket was around£40. You had to be a Jack Army member or a ST to qualify.

If we don't sell our full allocation then we really need to look at ourselves closely.


They were also playing Man City who were favourites for the title who they hadn't played for at least a decade...


West Ham aren't exactly a glamour tie by any stretch of the imagination...


I just find this excuse amusing. Its our first game in the top flight for 50 years, it should not matter who we are playing.


^ This

To blame the opposition and voucher exchange as an excuse for not selling out is quite frankly pathetic - we are Cardiff City, supposedly the biggest club in Wales and we can't sell out our 1st prem game??

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:29 pm

HandyLegs wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:The Jacks sold 3,000 for their first premier game. That game was on a Monday night and on Sky. The cost of a ticket was around£40. You had to be a Jack Army member or a ST to qualify.

If we don't sell our full allocation then we really need to look at ourselves closely.


They were also playing Man City who were favourites for the title who they hadn't played for at least a decade...


West Ham aren't exactly a glamour tie by any stretch of the imagination...


I just find this excuse amusing. Its our first game in the top flight for 50 years, it should not matter who we are playing.


^ This

To blame the opposition and voucher exchange as an excuse for not selling out is quite frankly pathetic - we are Cardiff City, supposedly the biggest club in Wales and we can't sell out our 1st prem game??


There's a month to go for god's sake!
You're all acting like the game's tomorrow and we've sold five tickets.
Lots of people won't be able to buy their tickets until the end of the month when they get paid.
Others will prefer to use the last week's pay before the match to buy their tickets.

It's pathetic all this abuse of our fanbase because we haven't sold out an overpriced game against a team we played twice just over a year ago.

I bet the biggest complainers aren't even going.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:26 pm

Aramore wrote:
HandyLegs wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:The Jacks sold 3,000 for their first premier game. That game was on a Monday night and on Sky. The cost of a ticket was around£40. You had to be a Jack Army member or a ST to qualify.

If we don't sell our full allocation then we really need to look at ourselves closely.


They were also playing Man City who were favourites for the title who they hadn't played for at least a decade...


West Ham aren't exactly a glamour tie by any stretch of the imagination...


I just find this excuse amusing. Its our first game in the top flight for 50 years, it should not matter who we are playing.


^ This

To blame the opposition and voucher exchange as an excuse for not selling out is quite frankly pathetic - we are Cardiff City, supposedly the biggest club in Wales and we can't sell out our 1st prem game??


There's a month to go for god's sake!
You're all acting like the game's tomorrow and we've sold five tickets.
Lots of people won't be able to buy their tickets until the end of the month when they get paid.
Others will prefer to use the last week's pay before the match to buy their tickets.

It's pathetic all this abuse of our fanbase because we haven't sold out an overpriced game against a team we played twice just over a year ago.

I bet the biggest complainers aren't even going.


You couldn't have put that better pal. :ayatollah:

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:31 pm

Far more important things to worry about in life than away attendances.

I save my worries for my childrens future not how our away attendance is perceived by others.

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:44 pm

Too expensive w e can't all afford it and to have 2 holidays a year

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:06 pm

Welcome to the reality of the premier league. Yes it costs a fortune, yes many games aren't glamorous, yes they are all on the box and yes everybody and their dog wants to go to watch the big boys away. Maybe now those taking the piss of our away support at Sunderland on a mid week sky game can have some perspective. Cant wait to see the reaction to us charging you £45. There will be blue oops sorry red murder

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:41 pm

Tom_Ince wrote:Do you know how pathetic that sounds?

You have a reputation as trouble makers, it will take a long time to leave and you will have to earn that trust at the top level, as of yet you haven't had the chance to. People walk over broken glass to watch their team play, it sounds ridiculous to hear e excuses being rolled out here. Some citing the fact the tickets are, in their opinion, £7 too expensive :lol:.

Last swans match I saw it was Wigan away and I paid $3100 return with Quantas, £350 accomadation and about £650 spending money. And I wasn't alone, there was about 30 of us. We had trouble to buy tickets as they were gone within 48 hours.

So having to travel 40 miles, pay an extra £7, have a police escort... Whatever, I'm afraid it doesn't wash, you should be chomping at the bit.


As far as I can see I am the only one who has mentioned £7 so I'll take it this is aimed at me. I suggest you read the message properly you thick pikey CUN#. I actually said prem tickets are more expensive and that is to be expected. The difference is f**k all compared to the overall cost of a total away day. I always have and always will travel by train (except when we come to your backward shithole cesspit of a town) so for me to get a train down then get to South Mimms is just too much f*cking about. You really went full retard didnt you simple Jack?!?

Re: IS IT WORRYING ???

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:56 pm

Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:
As far as I can see I am the only one who has mentioned £7 so I'll take it this is aimed at me. I suggest you read the message properly you thick pikey CUN#. I actually said prem tickets are more expensive and that is to be expected. The difference is f**k all compared to the overall cost of a total away day. I always have and always will travel by train (except when we come to your backward shithole cesspit of a town) so for me to get a train down then get to South Mimms is just too much f*cking about. You really went full retard didnt you simple Jack?!?


Nope not aimed at you, its aimed at anyone mentioning the price which is quite a few. considering £35 a ticket is the base price for a game I assume that to be seen as expensive then it has to be the extra £7.

So if it isn't the £7, you seem to be saying because it costs too much to travel to away games? West Ham away is not a long distance, what happens when you face Newcastle? Man City? Man United? Liverpool? Norwich? Sunderland? etc etc it is going to cost far more than getting to south mimms I can assure you :lol:

There is no excuse im afraid.