Channel4 to broadcast muslim call to prayer each morning.

I'm appalled the way the UK bows down to minorities, especially those who are intent on becoming the majority. Rest assured when they achieve it they will not offer such luxuries to the rest of us.

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making this up. Feckin ridiculous

do they have mosques in prisons they have christian chapels in prisons where christian prisoners can pray, why shouldnt muslims be awarded the same religious rights, or are they not allowed to have the same rights because they are muslim?

Yes they have Friday prayers in prisons, like they have church on Sunday etc, that's not what I'm talking about.
Some are being let out of the prison to go to an actual mosque outside of the prison grounds everyday during Ramadan.
As I said it's got ridiculous.

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I'm appalled the way the UK bows down to minorities, especially those who are intent on becoming the majority. Rest assured when they achieve it they will not offer such luxuries to the rest of us.

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making this up. Feckin ridiculous

a f*cking joke ,if there muslim and not born here f*cking deport the fuckers back to there shit holes

I'm appalled the way the UK bows down to minorities, especially those who are intent on becoming the majority. Rest assured when they achieve it they will not offer such luxuries to the rest of us.

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making this up. Feckin ridiculous

do they have mosques in prisons they have christian chapels in prisons where christian prisoners can pray, why shouldnt muslims be awarded the same religious rights, or are they not allowed to have the same rights because they are muslim?

we are not a Muslim country we are a Christian country have been for 1000s of years !!!!!!!!!

no we are a multi-cultural society that allows the practice of all religions and the right not to have a religion

are you a practicing christian? or are you just using my religion to support your own bigotry?

I'm appalled the way the UK bows down to minorities, especially those who are intent on becoming the majority. Rest assured when they achieve it they will not offer such luxuries to the rest of us.

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making this up. Feckin ridiculous

do they have mosques in prisons they have christian chapels in prisons where christian prisoners can pray, why shouldnt muslims be awarded the same religious rights, or are they not allowed to have the same rights because they are muslim?

Yes they have Friday prayers in prisons, like they have church on Sunday etc, that's not what I'm talking about.
Some are being let out of the prison to go to an actual mosque outside of the prison grounds everyday during Ramadan.
As I said it's got ridiculous.

have you got more details on this, not calling you a liar just want to read it for myself it does seem odd

I'm appalled the way the UK bows down to minorities, especially those who are intent on becoming the majority. Rest assured when they achieve it they will not offer such luxuries to the rest of us.

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making this up. Feckin ridiculous

do they have mosques in prisons they have christian chapels in prisons where christian prisoners can pray, why shouldnt muslims be awarded the same religious rights, or are they not allowed to have the same rights because they are muslim?

we are not a Muslim country we are a Christian country have been for 1000s of years !!!!!!!!!

no we are a multi-cultural society that allows the practice of all religions and the right not to have a religion

are you a practicing christian? or are you just using my religion to support your own bigotry?

this multi cultural society you rave on about has only becoming in the last 100 years or so and look were its getting us ,we are a christian country always have been always will be unless the Muslims get there own way

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making

do they have mosques in prisons they have christian chapels in prisons where christian prisoners can pray, why shouldnt muslims be awarded the same religious rights, or are they not allowed to have the same rights because they are muslim?

we are not a Muslim country we are a Christian country have been for 1000s of years !!!!!!!!!

no we are a multi-cultural society that allows the practice of all religions and the right not to have a religion

are you a practicing christian? or are you just using my religion to support your own bigotry?

this multi cultural society you rave on about has only becoming in the last 100 years or so and look were its getting us ,we are a christian country always have been always will be unless the Muslims get there own way

not very good at answering questions are you just good at clouding over points you make and regurgitating stuff you keep being told

are you a christian?

do you go to church?

because if you dont you can f**k off out of this christian society.

not very good at answering questions are you just good at clouding over points you make and regurgitating stuff you keep being told

are you a christian?

do you go to church?

because if you dont you can f**k off out of this christian society.[/quote]
not very good at reading messages in a thread are you jon ?????? ive already answered you this ! yes i do go to church not on sundays did do up to the age of 14 in llandaff north but do go to ,weddings ,funerals, christenings out of intrest are you a christian ? did you get married in a church ,have you been to family funerals in a church or are you a Muslim ? The fact is like it or not we are a Christian country ,you might not be one but the majority if you asked them will class them selfs as Christian so why should we give in to Muslim demands ??????

The problem with using this "we are a multi cultural society" line is that the minorities just keep taking and we just giving. Pandering to them will ultimately lead to people feeling alienated in their own country, as many do already in some cities and towns across the UK. People talk of integration yet many want to practice their own religion and customs and speak their own language. How does that work?

There will come a bursting point.

The problem with using this "we are a multi cultural society" line is that the minorities just keep taking and we just giving. Pandering to them will ultimately lead to people feeling alienated in their own country, as many do already in some cities and towns across the UK. People talk of integration yet many want to practice their own religion and customs and speak their own language. How does that work?

There will come a bursting point.

the bursting point is coming soon cause its not a colour of the skin thing its ie blacks against whites its the rest of religons against the muslim s ,most religons live side by side in countrys all over the world ,why is it that most religious people hate the Muslims ? i will tell you why its cause they do not integrate anywhere they have tried to settled

I'm appalled the way the UK bows down to minorities, especially those who are intent on becoming the majority. Rest assured when they achieve it they will not offer such luxuries to the rest of us.

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making this up. Feckin ridiculous

do they have mosques in prisons they have christian chapels in prisons where christian prisoners can pray, why shouldnt muslims be awarded the same religious rights, or are they not allowed to have the same rights because they are muslim?

Yes they have Friday prayers in prisons, like they have church on Sunday etc, that's not what I'm talking about.
Some are being let out of the prison to go to an actual mosque outside of the prison grounds everyday during Ramadan.
As I said it's got ridiculous.

have you got more details on this, not calling you a liar just want to read it for myself it does seem odd

I don't know if you can read about it, it's hardly something they'd want to advertise, then again you never know these days.
I've just come out of Brixton nick where they'd just okayed a large number of Muslims, who had done a quarter or more of their sentence to get day release everyday to go to the mosque during ramadan.
These same people would be eligible to do volunteer work outside through the prison on a Release On Temporary Licence basis, but this isn't volunteer work organised and vetted by the prison, it is religious worship which none of the other religions are allowed to leave the prison for.

not very good at answering questions are you just good at clouding over points you make and regurgitating stuff you keep being told

are you a christian?

do you go to church?

because if you dont you can f**k off out of this christian society.

not very good at reading messages in a thread are you jon ?????? ive already answered you this ! yes i do go to church not on sundays did do up to the age of 14 in llandaff north but do go to ,weddings ,funerals, christenings out of intrest are you a christian ? did you get married in a church ,have you been to family funerals in a church or are you a Muslim ? The fact is like it or not we are a Christian country ,you might not be one but the majority if you asked them will class them selfs as Christian so why should we give in to Muslim demands ??????[/quote]

so no you dont practice your religion then

yes I am Christian im Catholic, yes I do go to church every sunday and every day of obligation. I havent been married in a church im not married when I do get married it will be in church. Muslims are some of the most dedicated people when it comes to their religion it should be encouraged and yes when idiots like you come along and blame an entire community for the wrong doings of a minority in that community of course they will get annoyed and when you bang on about christian country start going to church before you take the moral high ground when criticising another religion

not very good at answering questions are you just good at clouding over points you make and regurgitating stuff you keep being told

are you a christian?

do you go to church?

because if you dont you can f**k off out of this christian society.

not very good at reading messages in a thread are you jon ?????? ive already answered you this ! yes i do go to church not on sundays did do up to the age of 14 in llandaff north but do go to ,weddings ,funerals, christenings out of intrest are you a christian ? did you get married in a church ,have you been to family funerals in a church or are you a Muslim ? The fact is like it or not we are a Christian country ,you might not be one but the majority if you asked them will class them selfs as Christian so why should we give in to Muslim demands ??????

so no you dont practice your religion then

yes I am Christian im Catholic, yes I do go to church every sunday and every day of obligation. I havent been married in a church im not married when I do get married it will be in church. Muslims are some of the most dedicated people when it comes to their religion it should be encouraged and yes when idiots like you come along and blame an entire community for the wrong doings of a minority in that community of course they will get annoyed and when you bang on about christian country start going to church before you take the moral high ground when criticising another religion[/quote]
you really are a Muppet then if you cant see that islam is a danger to our whole way of christian life theres no hope for you ,open your eyes to what's happening in our country before its too late ,btw you dont have to go to church every week to be a Christian ,do you think that you could practice your catholic religion in most of the country's that the Muslim immigrants come from ?

its the politically correct brigade that are going to f**k this country up and there will be civil war in this country if we are not careful and the Muslims will win cause we have become a soft touch

Some prisons are now giving out day release to muslims so they can go pray at the mosque during Ramadan.
No, I'm not making this up. Feckin ridiculous

do they have mosques in prisons they have christian chapels in prisons where christian prisoners can pray, why shouldnt muslims be awarded the same religious rights, or are they not allowed to have the same rights because they are muslim?

Yes they have Friday prayers in prisons, like they have church on Sunday etc, that's not what I'm talking about.
Some are being let out of the prison to go to an actual mosque outside of the prison grounds everyday during Ramadan.
As I said it's got ridiculous.

have you got more details on this, not calling you a liar just want to read it for myself it does seem odd

I don't know if you can read about it, it's hardly something they'd want to advertise, then again you never know these days.
I've just come out of Brixton nick where they'd just okayed a large number of Muslims, who had done a quarter or more of their sentence to get day release everyday to go to the mosque during ramadan.
These same people would be eligible to do volunteer work outside through the prison on a Release On Temporary Licence basis, but this isn't volunteer work organised and vetted by the prison, it is religious worship which none of the other religions are allowed to leave the prison for.

lol ok I see your inside point on not being able to read this information and how you got this information.

so its the good behaviour prisoners with a long time spent on their sentence I presume though I do get your point on it not being volunteer work and would this be given to other prisoners of other religions, jews and hindus for example. Strange one ill have to look more into this.

my parish priest is a prison chaplain ill see if he knows anything about it.

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

I've been christened but that's about the extent of my Christianity, although I have not completely dismissed it as a religion. For me though I enjoy living in a Christian country as I believe it' forms a great basis for society. I would not feel at all comfortable living in a Muslim country from those I've seen around the world.

You don't have to be a practicing Christian to not want another religion to come to prominence.

I've been christened but that's about the extent of my Christianity, although I have not completely dismissed it as a religion. For me though I enjoy living in a Christian country as I believe it' forms a great basis for society. I would not feel at all comfortable living in a Muslim country from those I've seen around the world.

You don't have to be a practicing Christian to not want another religion to come to prominence.

Depends on the religion. Hinduism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Judaism, Christianity.... these religions are not based upon the one Golden Rule of Islam..... "my way or the highway"

I've been christened but that's about the extent of my Christianity, although I have not completely dismissed it as a religion. For me though I enjoy living in a Christian country as I believe it' forms a great basis for society. I would not feel at all comfortable living in a Muslim country from those I've seen around the world.

You don't have to be a practicing Christian to not want another religion to come to prominence.

Depends on the religion. Hinduism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Judaism, Christianity.... these religions are not based upon the one Golden Rule of Islam..... "my way or the highway"

hit the nail on the head, you never here about Hinduism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Judaism, Christianity demanding things in the uk ,muslims believe that they are the only ones and no other religion is allowed

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

what I dont understand is you say Britain is a free tolerant society which I agree with, except in your opinion when it comes to Islam.

you can live in this free tolerant society as long as your not a member of this particular group doesnt exactly say free and tolerant society does it.

I dont like what the BNP says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like what the EDL says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like the attacks on my religion by sections of the gay community but im forced to listen to it. Why am I forced to listen to because we live in this free and tolerant society and I know I can speak in defence of my beliefs with relative safety and confidence that my rights will remain in tact. I dont necessarily agree with everything in Islam but because I have these rights that defend my religion I will defend the rights of muslims because they are no better or worse than me. I have confidence in my country that it will weed out people who claim to fight for religion and plan these terrorist attacks and that they will be arrested, charged, tried and punished in accordance with our justice system not based on the fact that they are muslim but based on the fact that they broke the laws of this country.

now if that makes me weak so be it, I personally think its proof of strength and trust in the society I live in.

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

what I dont understand is you say Britain is a free tolerant society which I agree with, except in your opinion when it comes to Islam.

you can live in this free tolerant society as long as your not a member of this particular group doesnt exactly say free and tolerant society does it.

I dont like what the BNP says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like what the EDL says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like the attacks on my religion by sections of the gay community but im forced to listen to it. Why am I forced to listen to because we live in this free and tolerant society and I know I can speak in defence of my beliefs with relative safety and confidence that my rights will remain in tact. I dont necessarily agree with everything in Islam but because I have these rights that defend my religion I will defend the rights of muslims because they are no better or worse than me. I have confidence in my country that it will weed out people who claim to fight for religion and plan these terrorist attacks and that they will be arrested, charged, tried and punished in accordance with our justice system not based on the fact that they are muslim but based on the fact that they broke the laws of this country.

now if that makes me weak so be it, I personally think its proof of strength and trust in the society I live in.

i think the problem is that me included have lost trust that our great country is capable of weeding out these hate preaching scum bags which are turning 2nd generation British born Muslims against our way of life

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

what I dont understand is you say Britain is a free tolerant society which I agree with, except in your opinion when it comes to Islam.

you can live in this free tolerant society as long as your not a member of this particular group doesnt exactly say free and tolerant society does it.

I dont like what the BNP says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like what the EDL says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like the attacks on my religion by sections of the gay community but im forced to listen to it. Why am I forced to listen to because we live in this free and tolerant society and I know I can speak in defence of my beliefs with relative safety and confidence that my rights will remain in tact. I dont necessarily agree with everything in Islam but because I have these rights that defend my religion I will defend the rights of muslims because they are no better or worse than me. I have confidence in my country that it will weed out people who claim to fight for religion and plan these terrorist attacks and that they will be arrested, charged, tried and punished in accordance with our justice system not based on the fact that they are muslim but based on the fact that they broke the laws of this country.

now if that makes me weak so be it, I personally think its proof of strength and trust in the society I live in.

You juuuust dont get it do you. A free tolerant society depends on those that contribute it. Islam does not. it oppresses those that follow it. It discriminates against those that dont follow it. So Islam can have no place in a free tolerant multicultural Society. I never decided that, the Koran did. Those Muslims that choose to live in a 'foreign country' have a covenant to respect the laws and customs of that land.But Muslims by their very nature find that almost impossible. Partly because Islam ALSO tells them that those who are not Muslim are lower than dogs and will never go to heaven... So they think they are BETTER than us. Tolerance and Islam do not go hand in hand. Look at the Islamic countries of the World, then ask yourself why people are killing themselves to get away from them.

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

what I dont understand is you say Britain is a free tolerant society which I agree with, except in your opinion when it comes to Islam.

you can live in this free tolerant society as long as your not a member of this particular group doesnt exactly say free and tolerant society does it.

I dont like what the BNP says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like what the EDL says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like the attacks on my religion by sections of the gay community but im forced to listen to it. Why am I forced to listen to because we live in this free and tolerant society and I know I can speak in defence of my beliefs with relative safety and confidence that my rights will remain in tact. I dont necessarily agree with everything in Islam but because I have these rights that defend my religion I will defend the rights of muslims because they are no better or worse than me. I have confidence in my country that it will weed out people who claim to fight for religion and plan these terrorist attacks and that they will be arrested, charged, tried and punished in accordance with our justice system not based on the fact that they are muslim but based on the fact that they broke the laws of this country.

now if that makes me weak so be it, I personally think its proof of strength and trust in the society I live in.

i think the problem is that me included have lost trust that our great country is capable of weeding out these hate preaching scum bags which are turning 2nd generation British born Muslims against our way of life

well I havent I still have faith in this country, this country hasn't embarrassed itself by failing to kick muslim radicals out of the country to support muslims its doing its best in a very complicated situation.

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

what I dont understand is you say Britain is a free tolerant society which I agree with, except in your opinion when it comes to Islam.

you can live in this free tolerant society as long as your not a member of this particular group doesnt exactly say free and tolerant society does it.

I dont like what the BNP says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like what the EDL says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like the attacks on my religion by sections of the gay community but im forced to listen to it. Why am I forced to listen to because we live in this free and tolerant society and I know I can speak in defence of my beliefs with relative safety and confidence that my rights will remain in tact. I dont necessarily agree with everything in Islam but because I have these rights that defend my religion I will defend the rights of muslims because they are no better or worse than me. I have confidence in my country that it will weed out people who claim to fight for religion and plan these terrorist attacks and that they will be arrested, charged, tried and punished in accordance with our justice system not based on the fact that they are muslim but based on the fact that they broke the laws of this country.

now if that makes me weak so be it, I personally think its proof of strength and trust in the society I live in.

You juuuust dont get it do you. A free tolerant society depends on those that contribute it. Islam does not. it oppresses those that follow it. It discriminates against those that dont follow it. So Islam can have no place in a free tolerant multicultural Society. I never decided that, the Koran did. Those Muslims that choose to live in a 'foreign country' have a covenant to respect the laws and customs of that land.But Muslims by their very nature find that almost impossible. Partly because Islam ALSO tells them that those who are not Muslim are lower than dogs and will never go to heaven... So they think they are BETTER than us. Tolerance and Islam do not go hand in hand. Look at the Islamic countries of the World, then ask yourself why people are killing themselves to get away from them.

many religions believe non-believers will not go to heaven including many christian denominations so thats not just a muslim issue.

there are good and bad in many religions not just Islam so why pick on muslims.

many muslims are tolerant, the muslims I served with while I was in the Navy were very tolerant and very devoted to their religion.

youve just listened to what bigots have said and repeated it with no thought for yourself

there are bad muslims yes, there are also bad christians, bad jews, bad hindus, bad athiests.

The BNP is about as tolerant as the Nazi Party I dont see them integrating into a modern tolerant society so why just pick on one religion. Or do you not get it.

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

what I dont understand is you say Britain is a free tolerant society which I agree with, except in your opinion when it comes to Islam.

you can live in this free tolerant society as long as your not a member of this particular group doesnt exactly say free and tolerant society does it.

I dont like what the BNP says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like what the EDL says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like the attacks on my religion by sections of the gay community but im forced to listen to it. Why am I forced to listen to because we live in this free and tolerant society and I know I can speak in defence of my beliefs with relative safety and confidence that my rights will remain in tact. I dont necessarily agree with everything in Islam but because I have these rights that defend my religion I will defend the rights of muslims because they are no better or worse than me. I have confidence in my country that it will weed out people who claim to fight for religion and plan these terrorist attacks and that they will be arrested, charged, tried and punished in accordance with our justice system not based on the fact that they are muslim but based on the fact that they broke the laws of this country.

now if that makes me weak so be it, I personally think its proof of strength and trust in the society I live in.

You juuuust dont get it do you. A free tolerant society depends on those that contribute it. Islam does not. it oppresses those that follow it. It discriminates against those that dont follow it. So Islam can have no place in a free tolerant multicultural Society. I never decided that, the Koran did. Those Muslims that choose to live in a 'foreign country' have a covenant to respect the laws and customs of that land.But Muslims by their very nature find that almost impossible. Partly because Islam ALSO tells them that those who are not Muslim are lower than dogs and will never go to heaven... So they think they are BETTER than us. Tolerance and Islam do not go hand in hand. Look at the Islamic countries of the World, then ask yourself why people are killing themselves to get away from them.

many religions believe non-believers will not go to heaven including many christian denominations so thats not just a muslim issue.

there are good and bad in many religions not just Islam so why pick on muslims.

many muslims are tolerant, the muslims I served with while I was in the Navy were very tolerant and very devoted to their religion.

youve just listened to what bigots have said and repeated it with no thought for yourself

there are bad muslims yes, there are also bad christians, bad jews, bad hindus, bad athiests.

The BNP is about as tolerant as the Nazi Party I dont see them integrating into a modern tolerant society so why just pick on one religion. Or do you not get it.

Why are you bringing up the BNP as if i support them you clueless man. I don't. The BNP have one major disadvantage in the UK... they are ostracised, ignored or attacked by their own ethnic group. Radical Muslims are not. Why not?? eh??

Johnny12345s obsession with finding out if we're all practicing Christians is a moot point. Islam is a fascist/racist/nazi ideology and you would have as much right to come to that conclusion if you are an atheist or a Christian. Britain is a free tolerant and open society. Islam most definitely is NONE of those. Millions of Muslims are in Britain to escape Islam and its foul doctrine. They were starved, suffocated, tortured, oppressed.... But the f*cking thing has followed them here and Muslims are so backward and wrapped up in a f*cking book full of bullshit that they are too stupid to see how brainwashed they are. What does Britain do? Validate the book of bullshit by making Islam an almost uncriticisable entity. And Johnny cant see it

what I dont understand is you say Britain is a free tolerant society which I agree with, except in your opinion when it comes to Islam.

you can live in this free tolerant society as long as your not a member of this particular group doesnt exactly say free and tolerant society does it.

I dont like what the BNP says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like what the EDL says but im forced to listen to it, I dont like the attacks on my religion by sections of the gay community but im forced to listen to it. Why am I forced to listen to because we live in this free and tolerant society and I know I can speak in defence of my beliefs with relative safety and confidence that my rights will remain in tact. I dont necessarily agree with everything in Islam but because I have these rights that defend my religion I will defend the rights of muslims because they are no better or worse than me. I have confidence in my country that it will weed out people who claim to fight for religion and plan these terrorist attacks and that they will be arrested, charged, tried and punished in accordance with our justice system not based on the fact that they are muslim but based on the fact that they broke the laws of this country.

now if that makes me weak so be it, I personally think its proof of strength and trust in the society I live in.

You juuuust dont get it do you. A free tolerant society depends on those that contribute it. Islam does not. it oppresses those that follow it. It discriminates against those that dont follow it. So Islam can have no place in a free tolerant multicultural Society. I never decided that, the Koran did. Those Muslims that choose to live in a 'foreign country' have a covenant to respect the laws and customs of that land.But Muslims by their very nature find that almost impossible. Partly because Islam ALSO tells them that those who are not Muslim are lower than dogs and will never go to heaven... So they think they are BETTER than us. Tolerance and Islam do not go hand in hand. Look at the Islamic countries of the World, then ask yourself why people are killing themselves to get away from them.

many religions believe non-believers will not go to heaven including many christian denominations so thats not just a muslim issue.

there are good and bad in many religions not just Islam so why pick on muslims.

many muslims are tolerant, the muslims I served with while I was in the Navy were very tolerant and very devoted to their religion.

youve just listened to what bigots have said and repeated it with no thought for yourself

there are bad muslims yes, there are also bad christians, bad jews, bad hindus, bad athiests.

The BNP is about as tolerant as the Nazi Party I dont see them integrating into a modern tolerant society so why just pick on one religion. Or do you not get it.

Why are you bringing up the BNP as if i support them you clueless man. I don't. The BNP have one major disadvantage in the UK... they are ostracised, ignored or attacked by their own ethnic group. Radical Muslims are not. Why not?? eh??

yes they are radical muslims are questioned all the time search youtube you will find many muslims questioning the acts and voice of Choudary and others to say they dont is arrogant and idiotic.

and just to clarify you dont support the BNP yet you preach everything in their propaganda, doesnt make much sense really.

This debate about religion.....
It's just guys arguing about who's imaginary friend is better...


That's all


Flip side is though,if it is made a Muslim country, one of our posters will have to change his name to Malky is Allah

This debate about religion.....
It's just guys arguing about who's imaginary friend is better...


That's all


Flip side is though,if it is made a Muslim country, one of our posters will have to change his name to Malky is Allah

this isnt a debate about religion is a fight about ignorance a tarring everybody in a particular group with the same brush and making general statements, the fact that this group is a religious group as purely academic

johnny you are a full of shit..

This debate about religion.....
It's just guys arguing about who's imaginary friend is better...


That's all


Flip side is though,if it is made a Muslim country, one of our posters will have to change his name to Malky is Allah

this isnt a debate about religion is a fight about ignorance a tarring everybody in a particular group with the same brush and making general statements, the fact that this group is a religious group as purely academic

no islam has no place in the modern world its a barbaric and backward religon and i hope that this country wakes up soon and outlaw it ,you as a catholic should be ashamed of yourself for defending it

johnny you are a full of shit..

agree

This debate about religion.....
It's just guys arguing about who's imaginary friend is better...


That's all


Flip side is though,if it is made a Muslim country, one of our posters will have to change his name to Malky is Allah

this isnt a debate about religion is a fight about ignorance a tarring everybody in a particular group with the same brush and making general statements, the fact that this group is a religious group as purely academic

no islam has no place in the modern world its a barbaric and backward religon and i hope that this country wakes up soon and outlaw it ,you as a catholic should be ashamed of yourself for defending it

I think as a Catholic I will defend what I want to defend based on that fact and I have nothing to be ashamed of. I think the fact that you have to use my religion to try and persuade me to support your case is pathetic