Romalu Lukaku

So is the World Cup a shit competition as the likes of North Korea, New Zealand, Honduras, Algeria etc are in it?

Is the FA Cup a joke competition with only 15% of the entrants being top flight clubs?

Is the Premier league a joke competition because only a handful compete in the champions league?

Whether you like the competition or not matters little, people are bemused as you are calling it a "joke", when it clearly isn't. It exudes jealousy and makes us look small.

The BEST teams are in each of those competitions you've mentioned. Poor analogy I'm afraid.

You think Braintree town are one of the best clubs in Britain? Yu think Honduras are one of the best international sides in the world?

What the hell are you cracking on about? If Atletico Madrid came up against Braintree town there would be a massacre yet you aren't calling the FA Cup a joke. If Wales came up against New Zealand we would also win yet the World Cup isn't a joke. If Real Madrid came up against Wigan it would be a massacre, yet the premier league isn't a joke.

You are off your trolley.

Totally missed the point, I hope on purpose. Your examples are meaningless - how does Real Madrid v Wigan reflect on the PL? How would braintree v A Madrid happen in the FA cup? If you have to make up nonsense to back up your argument then you're clearing struggling. And I'm off my trolley?!

Last time I checked, all the PL teams enter the FA cup. They are the best teams, not the conference sides you fool. And last time I checked, teams who get knocked out don't get a second chance by dropping into some lesser cup. Yes the World Cup includes its minnows at times as it brings the 5 continents together. But it also includes the very best sides in the world. Same applies to the Champs League. But this was never my underlying point. It's not necessarily who you're playing (although the EL is full of second/third rate teams), it's how you come about playing them.

Let me slow it down for you.

Lets say as well as the World Cup there is another trophy called the earth league. The latter is made up of teams not good enough to qualify for the World Cup, including say Wales, Scotland, and Thailand.

Now Wales are going along nicely in the earth cup until teams who fail to qualify from the World Cup group stage suddenly drop into the earth cup, lets say including England and holland. Wales get put out by England who then go on to beat holland in the earth cup final.

I would find that farcical, akin to the Europa league IMO. Others wouldn't which I can accept. Seems many including you have a problem and are getting very upset. I'm bored of explaining the same thing now and written this novel in a final attempt to offer my views. I don't like the Europa league and have no interest in it. I think it's a minor trophy designed to soften the blow for champs league failures. Do you think I'm suddenly going to change my mind because people tell me they love it? I've even said perhaps if you're club is in it then it may feel differently, but then I never got too excited about European games for Cardiff in the past so who knows.

I'm comfortable with my stance and that others differ. As I've said, football fans are allowed to disagree. Some don't like international football, others love it. Some have no interest in the cups, others love the FA cup. It's about opinions and I don't think anyone is going to get hurt by them?

I can live with it and suggest we all just agree to disagree rather than turn this into a 20 pager in classic Roath-esque fashion

Slow down cowboy, you are moving the goalposts. The term used was "joke", whether you like the cup or not is irrelevant and not what is being discussed, that part is up to you. It's your use of referencing it as a joke cup which is the part flabbergasting many.

Your opinion was clearly based on the quality of opposition. It's nonsense. You like the FA cup with the likes of Braintree in yet say the Europa is a joke with the likes of Chelsea in it. Did Cardiff just win a joke league with no top flight teams in it too then?

The premier league next year will have two teams in it from the championship who werent good enough to win the league. Most of the clubs there aren't even good enough to qualify for Europa league let alone champions league... Is that a joke league?

This is football. There are many cups and trophies to win and many of them have different means of qualification. You seem to think anything outside of the top 4 is a "joke" which is highly ridiculous considering you support Cardiff.

European football IS a privilege, hence why football teams (including Cardiff) will do their utmost to secure it. Your life as a fun must be as dull as dishwater if your whole footballi philosophy now surrounds finishing outside the top 6 not winning any cups but staying out of the bottom 3.... Joy and ambition eh?

Not moved any goal posts. I've clearly stated many times that the set up of the competition is farcical. That constitutes a joke in my book. Throw in the bizarre teams that get in it an its a done deal for me and the reasons I don't like it. It's not difficult to understand. Oh and didn't Chelsea drop down from the champs league and failing to qualify from the group?

Now if my life revolved solely around football then it may well be dull. Alas it doesn't and perhaps why I'm a bit more chilled out about a second rate euro competition than you are

Clearly I'm in the minority on here re the subject of the EL, but here's a few articles that point to features such as the CL failures dropping into the EL and how some clubs see it as a distraction and don't take it seriously. More positively it seems uefa will address some of the issues so perhaps in time it's credibility will improve. The last link is interesting though.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ds-1896809

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... eague.html

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/spo ... -31868497/

http://sportsnewsireland.com/soccer/soc ... 013-05-06/

http://www.spiked-online.com/site/printable/12429/

Yes there will be views saying how good it is, but thats debate for you. Like I keep saying, it's just am opinion, but I'm not alone

Had a good day today

'Realist' Lukaku eyes Dortmund loan after accepting Chelsea return is unlikely -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ikely.html

'Realist' Lukaku eyes Dortmund loan after accepting Chelsea return is unlikely -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ikely.html

He has about as much chance of being allowed to be loaned out to a rival champions league club as Susan Boyle has as becoming miss Scotland.

The Jacks are favourites with the bookies at the moment and is probably his best realistic club.

'Realist' Lukaku eyes Dortmund loan after accepting Chelsea return is unlikely -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ikely.html

Would love Lukaku to go to Dortmund as I watch the Bundesliga a lot so can watch him a lot.

'Realist' Lukaku eyes Dortmund loan after accepting Chelsea return is unlikely -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ikely.html

Would love Lukaku to go to Dortmund as I watch the Bundesliga a lot so can watch him a lot.

Same

Seems he is a realist like he says and don't fancy a move to Swansea town then

Lukaku won't go out on loan to Dortmund.

In order to become a home grown player, he must be in the English Leagues for at least three years before his 21st birthday, and in order to do that he needs to go out on loan next season in the Premier League.

If he goes out on loan next season, it will be to us.

Lukaku won't go out on loan to Dortmund.

In order to become a home grown player, he must be in the English Leagues for at least three years before his 21st birthday, and in order to do that he needs to go out on loan next season in the Premier League.

If he goes out on loan next season, it will be to us.

Chelsea might not be too bothered about that home grown rule to be fair, he's had premier league experience, if he could fire goals in Europe and in the champions league for a European team like Dortmund then they know he could do the business for Chelsea.
I don't see what else he can gain by going on loan to another premiership team aswell

Lukaku won't go out on loan to Dortmund.

In order to become a home grown player, he must be in the English Leagues for at least three years before his 21st birthday, and in order to do that he needs to go out on loan next season in the Premier League.

If he goes out on loan next season, it will be to us.

Chelsea might not be too bothered about that home grown rule to be fair, he's had premier league experience, if he could fire goals in Europe and in the champions league for a European team like Dortmund then they know he could do the business for Chelsea.
I don't see what else he can gain by going on loan to another premiership team aswell

They will be bothered, for a club like them they're going to want as many home grown players as possible and they're not going to throw away an opportunity for Lukaku to be a homegrown player. It also adds to his value greatly if he was to join another Premier League club, shown by how much Man. City were prepared to pay for some home grown players last summer.

He can gain experience in Europe, that's why we're the favourites to get him. He can also gain working under a coach like Laudrup, and more regular first team football can just help him to develop.

Personally, I'd prefer us to sign Aubameyang on a permanent basis than sign Lukaku, and that does seem more likely.

Lukaku won't go out on loan to Dortmund.

In order to become a home grown player, he must be in the English Leagues for at least three years before his 21st birthday, and in order to do that he needs to go out on loan next season in the Premier League.

If he goes out on loan next season, it will be to us.

Chelsea might not be too bothered about that home grown rule to be fair, he's had premier league experience, if he could fire goals in Europe and in the champions league for a European team like Dortmund then they know he could do the business for Chelsea.
I don't see what else he can gain by going on loan to another premiership team aswell

They will be bothered, for a club like them they're going to want as many home grown players as possible and they're not going to throw away an opportunity for Lukaku to be a homegrown player. It also adds to his value greatly if he was to join another Premier League club, shown by how much Man. City were prepared to pay for some home grown players last summer.

He can gain experience in Europe, that's why we're the favourites to get him. He can also gain working under a coach like Laudrup, and more regular first team football can just help him to develop.

Personally, I'd prefer us to sign Aubameyang on a permanent basis than sign Lukaku, and that does seem more likely.

mourinho quoted today as saying he wants him at chelsea next year and sees him as the new drogba

Lukaku won't go out on loan to Dortmund.

In order to become a home grown player, he must be in the English Leagues for at least three years before his 21st birthday, and in order to do that he needs to go out on loan next season in the Premier League.

If he goes out on loan next season, it will be to us.

Chelsea might not be too bothered about that home grown rule to be fair, he's had premier league experience, if he could fire goals in Europe and in the champions league for a European team like Dortmund then they know he could do the business for Chelsea.
I don't see what else he can gain by going on loan to another premiership team aswell

They will be bothered, for a club like them they're going to want as many home grown players as possible and they're not going to throw away an opportunity for Lukaku to be a homegrown player. It also adds to his value greatly if he was to join another Premier League club, shown by how much Man. City were prepared to pay for some home grown players last summer.

He can gain experience in Europe, that's why we're the favourites to get him. He can also gain working under a coach like Laudrup, and more regular first team football can just help him to develop.

Personally, I'd prefer us to sign Aubameyang on a permanent basis than sign Lukaku, and that does seem more likely.

mourinho quoted today as saying he wants him at chelsea next year and sees him as the new drogba

Where's that from? Mourinho hasn't even official taken over Chelsea yet?

All I know is that Lukaku wants to go out on loan again, so there's a possibility. It's not like we're pinning all of our hopes on the possibility of him becoming available though.

Sportpulse.net understands that Jose Mourinho will want to keep Romelu Lukaku at Chelsea next season when he returns to the blues in the summer.

Mourinho is a big fan of the big Belguim forward and Mourinho thinks Lukaku can be the next Didier Drogba at Chelsea. Mourinho has insisted that Lukaku will not be available for loan next season despite Lukaku being heavily rumoured with a loan move to Uefa Champions League runners up Borussia Dortmund and Premier League sides West Ham and Swansea.

Lukaku does have similar key attributes like Didier Drogba as he is strong, powerful and quick which are three attributes that Drogba had so much of whilst at Chelsea.



Lukaku has scored 17 goals whilst on loan at West Brom this season with the highlight of the season being his hat-trick against Manchester United in the 5-5 draw in Sir Alex Ferguson's final ever game.

So no actual quotes then, or confirmation that Mourinho will even be joining Chelsea, from an unreliable website. Just what I thought.

So no actual quotes then, or confirmation that Mourinho will even be joining Chelsea, from an unreliable website. Just what I thought.

Shut up you jack b*stard.

So no actual quotes then, or confirmation that Mourinho will even be joining Chelsea, from an unreliable website. Just what I thought.

No, just like there are no quotes about him joining SCFC either.

So no actual quotes then, or confirmation that Mourinho will even be joining Chelsea, from an unreliable website. Just what I thought.

No, just like there are no quotes about him joining SCFC either.

That wasn't the issue being discussed, it was about whether he was going to be loaned out or not.

There are quotes about him wanting regular first team football, suggesting the possibility of a loan.


"I’ll start the season with Chelsea then I will speak with the management to discuss the best choice,'
'I am a realist.
'I still need to grow and for that I need to have time to play during the next season."

That wasn't the issue being discussed, it was about whether he was going to be loaned out or not.

There are quotes about him wanting regular first team football, suggesting the possibility of a loan.


"I’ll start the season with Chelsea then I will speak with the management to discuss the best choice,'
'I am a realist.
'I still need to grow and for that I need to have time to play during the next season."

Not his choice though is it?

Still don't see any quotes linking him was SCFC.

That wasn't the issue being discussed, it was about whether he was going to be loaned out or not.

There are quotes about him wanting regular first team football, suggesting the possibility of a loan.


"I’ll start the season with Chelsea then I will speak with the management to discuss the best choice,'
'I am a realist.
'I still need to grow and for that I need to have time to play during the next season."

Not his choice though is it?

Still don't see any quotes linking him was SCFC.

It's not his choice, but he certainly has a big say in his future.

I haven't said he wants to go to us, but that we are the most likely team that he'll go to.

He wants to go out on loan unless being played regularly, Chelsea have to loan him out to a Premier League side but don't want to loan him out to a rival, and playing in Europe is the natural progression for him.

Not if the club refuse to loan him!

You certainly aren't the favourites/most likelY at all.

Not if the club refuse to loan him!

You certainly aren't the favourites/most likelY at all.

You're underestimating player power, players don't want unhappy players at the club.

If somebody wants to leave the club, then it's not as simple as just saying as the players under contract so you're going to keep him, if a player wants to leave then it's best not to keep an unhappy player at the club if Lukaku was going to stay to be third choice.

Who are more likely to sign him than us then? The bookies and journalists would disagree with you.

Apparently Dortmund are interested, only if Lewandowski goes to Bayern.

Swans bookies favourite to get Lukaku 4/1.

Him alongside Michu next season would be huge for the jacks. Aubameyang looks a class player too and he's in the frame. Any of those signings and Swansea will be between top eight to ten again next season.

Not if the club refuse to loan him!

You certainly aren't the favourites/most likelY at all.

You're underestimating player power, players don't want unhappy players at the club.

If somebody wants to leave the club, then it's not as simple as just saying as the players under contract so you're going to keep him, if a player wants to leave then it's best not to keep an unhappy player at the club if Lukaku was going to stay to be third choice.

Who are more likely to sign him than us then? The bookies and journalists would disagree with you.

That maybe true in permanent moves but not loan moves

Apparently Dortmund are interested, only if Lewandowski goes to Bayern.

See above. I'm not completely ruling out the possibility of a move to a club outside of the Premier League, but it would be costly for Chelsea not to allow Lukaku to get home grown status.

Not if the club refuse to loan him!

You certainly aren't the favourites/most likelY at all.

You're underestimating player power, players don't want unhappy players at the club.

If somebody wants to leave the club, then it's not as simple as just saying as the players under contract so you're going to keep him, if a player wants to leave then it's best not to keep an unhappy player at the club if Lukaku was going to stay to be third choice.

Who are more likely to sign him than us then? The bookies and journalists would disagree with you.

That maybe true in permanent moves but not loan moves

Well player power and the wishes of the player are still there for loan moves, if Lukaku wants to be playing regularly and he doesn't get that next season, then the summer after that I can see him going to a club that respects his wishes and can guarantee him regular first team football permanently.

Seems west ham are keen

Seems west ham are keen

The reports were before the £15 million signing of Andy Carroll, they play with one up front and I don't think they'll be getting Carroll and Lukaku.

We should be able to beat a side like West Ham for Lukaku, as a side that finished about them last season, will be playing in Europe next season and have a coach with the influence of Laudrup rather than a coach with the influence of Sam Allardyce.

Seems west ham are keen

The reports were before the £15 million signing of Andy Carroll, they play with one up front and I don't think they'll be getting Carroll and Lukaku.

We should be able to beat a side like West Ham for Lukaku, as a side that finished about them last season, will be playing in Europe next season and have a coach with the influence of Laudrup rather than a coach with the influence of Sam Allardyce.

Get it into your dull head why the f**k would lukaku want to move to a shit hole like Swansea town, your playing in a Micky mouse European cup and he probably dont give a f**k about who the manager is when he is living in a shit hole like Swansea