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Re: Those against the rebrand

Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:30 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
sleepers wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:A renewal is nothing other than a support for Tan and the red, you cannot say otherwise as its bullshit. Sorry but if you hate it don't renew.

You honestly think Tan knows that there has been a petition and a protest? I don't. All he will see is strong red shirt sales, a red stadium last night and thousands of renewals. If thats not support for red then what is?

If you have renewed you cannot complain anymore, FACT.

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EXACTLY, :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

gwyn why are you rubbing peoples faces in it,i have seen the thread on mikes board concerning mms an them not having the colour blue.
i am not bothered about the rebrand either way,but i respect peoples feelings an you are coming across as a childish
spoilt brat whos got his opwn way.
i have read other threads you have put on here on they are a good,but i think your letting yourself down last night an today :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Perhaps you missed the TLG digs about the M&M's, it was done in response to that.

no i never,missed it,my apoliges gwyn :ayatollah:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:48 pm

Did fans that are we're against ridsdale stop going to games ? No and many of them are now pro rebrand so why should fans who disagree with the rebrand stop going, owners and chairmen are like players and managers they come and go its the fans that remain, so there's no reason why blues should walk away

Re: Those against the rebrand

Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:51 pm

the blue path wrote:Did fans that are we're against ridsdale stop going to games ? No and many of them are now pro rebrand so why should fans who disagree with the rebrand stop going, owners and chairmen are like players and managers they come and go its the fans that remain, so there's no reason why blues should walk away


This is a bit different to the whole ridsdale saga.

Re: Those against the rebrand

Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:54 pm

BlueSince82 wrote:
the blue path wrote:Did fans that are we're against ridsdale stop going to games ? No and many of them are now pro rebrand so why should fans who disagree with the rebrand stop going, owners and chairmen are like players and managers they come and go its the fans that remain, so there's no reason why blues should walk away


This is a bit different to the whole ridsdale saga.

Why ?

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:34 am

Oh chuckles behave! Your not anti rebrand at all are you? "Sign up to my petition" "LOOK AT MEEE EVERYBODY!". It has always been a power trip for you and you have proved this by signing up for another season of red.

Tan thinks your now a believer in his vision, sorry but you cannot dress it up in any other way than that. You had a choice to stick by your guns or "sell out" you took the easy option, probably due to the lure of premier league football. You ARE NOW a pro rebrander in my eyes, Tans and most of this forum. Most of all you f*cking know yourself you have rolled over.

You have no voice regardless of whether or not you have a season ticket, what are you going to do to voice your concerns because no poxy little petition or protest will ever reach Tan. Your money will.

Ridsdale completely different, he didn't change our identity. Plus hes fucked off now due to fan pressure, Tan won't do the same while you line his pockets.

:old:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:47 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Oh chuckles behave! Your not anti rebrand at all are you? "Sign up to my petition" "LOOK AT MEEE EVERYBODY!". It has always been a power trip for you and you have proved this by signing up for another season of red.

Tan thinks your now a believer in his vision, sorry but you cannot dress it up in any other way than that. You had a choice to stick by your guns or "sell out" you took the easy option, probably due to the lure of premier league football. You ARE NOW a pro rebrander in my eyes, Tans and most of this forum. Most of all you f*cking know yourself you have rolled over.


You have no voice regardless of whether or not you have a season ticket, what are you going to do to voice your concerns because no poxy little petition or protest will ever reach Tan. Your money will.

Ridsdale completely different, he didn't change our identity. Plus hes fucked off now due to fan pressure, Tan won't do the same while you line his pockets.

:old:


I agree with this

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:53 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Oh chuckles behave! Your not anti rebrand at all are you? "Sign up to my petition" "LOOK AT MEEE EVERYBODY!". It has always been a power trip for you and you have proved this by signing up for another season of red.

Tan thinks your now a believer in his vision, sorry but you cannot dress it up in any other way than that. You had a choice to stick by your guns or "sell out" you took the easy option, probably due to the lure of premier league football. You ARE NOW a pro rebrander in my eyes, Tans and most of this forum. Most of all you f*cking know yourself you have rolled over.

You have no voice regardless of whether or not you have a season ticket, what are you going to do to voice your concerns because no poxy little petition or protest will ever reach Tan. Your money will.

Ridsdale completely different, he didn't change our identity. Plus hes fucked off now due to fan pressure, Tan won't do the same while you line his pockets.

:old:


You're wrong. Yet again. :lol: make a habit of it don't you?

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:57 am

BlueSince82 wrote:
the blue path wrote:Did fans that are we're against ridsdale stop going to games ? No and many of them are now pro rebrand so why should fans who disagree with the rebrand stop going, owners and chairmen are like players and managers they come and go its the fans that remain, so there's no reason why blues should walk away


This is a bit different to the whole ridsdale saga.


No it isn't. Both regard how the chairman run the club & therefore both are similar.

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:18 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
BlueSince82 wrote:
the blue path wrote:Did fans that are we're against ridsdale stop going to games ? No and many of them are now pro rebrand so why should fans who disagree with the rebrand stop going, owners and chairmen are like players and managers they come and go its the fans that remain, so there's no reason why blues should walk away


This is a bit different to the whole ridsdale saga.


No it isn't. Both regard how the chairman run the club & therefore both are similar.


In fact I would say it was a lot worse under Ridsdale. We protested against him but carry on paying into his pockets for his jollies and everything else.

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:31 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Oh chuckles behave! Your not anti rebrand at all are you? "Sign up to my petition" "LOOK AT MEEE EVERYBODY!". It has always been a power trip for you and you have proved this by signing up for another season of red.

Tan thinks your now a believer in his vision, sorry but you cannot dress it up in any other way than that. You had a choice to stick by your guns or "sell out" you took the easy option, probably due to the lure of premier league football. You ARE NOW a pro rebrander in my eyes, Tans and most of this forum. Most of all you f*cking know yourself you have rolled over.

You have no voice regardless of whether or not you have a season ticket, what are you going to do to voice your concerns because no poxy little petition or protest will ever reach Tan. Your money will.

Ridsdale completely different, he didn't change our identity. Plus hes fucked off now due to fan pressure, Tan won't do the same while you line his pockets.

:old:


You're wrong. Yet again. :lol: make a habit of it don't you?


Tell me how I am wrong? Because you know I am spot on. Can't wait to hear how being so against the rebrand that you organised a petition against it then signing up for another season of red and Tan is not hypocrisy!

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Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:03 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Oh chuckles behave! Your not anti rebrand at all are you? "Sign up to my petition" "LOOK AT MEEE EVERYBODY!". It has always been a power trip for you and you have proved this by signing up for another season of red.

Tan thinks your now a believer in his vision, sorry but you cannot dress it up in any other way than that. You had a choice to stick by your guns or "sell out" you took the easy option, probably due to the lure of premier league football. You ARE NOW a pro rebrander in my eyes, Tans and most of this forum. Most of all you f*cking know yourself you have rolled over.

You have no voice regardless of whether or not you have a season ticket, what are you going to do to voice your concerns because no poxy little petition or protest will ever reach Tan. Your money will.

Ridsdale completely different, he didn't change our identity. Plus hes fucked off now due to fan pressure, Tan won't do the same while you line his pockets.

:old:


You're wrong. Yet again. :lol: make a habit of it don't you?


Tell me how I am wrong? Because you know I am spot on. Can't wait to hear how being so against the rebrand that you organised a petition against it then signing up for another season of red and Tan is not hypocrisy!

:old:


No, you're not. As typical, you're pretty blinkered. Yes - I am very much against the rebrand. I'm signing up for another season of supporting the club I support.

Had I ended my Assocation with the club, my opinion would being invalid, by going, I still give myself a voice. If I left, I wouldn't be missed - as someone else would take my seat. Tan wouldn't even notice.

However, by attending and still being against it, I can get my opinions across.

You may find my opinion hypocritical, that's up to you. I guess that you won't be renewing after your condemnation of Tuesday's scarf business?

Good thing for you is, you can tell everyone you've stopped going & still go - seeing as you hide behind this persona of an elderly gentleman - nobody knows who you are. :roll:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:08 pm

You support the club, you support Tan. I haven't made my mind up yet but I may renew. What voice do you have chuckles? We all support the club. A season ticket holder in TANS eyes is a thumbs up to him and the red. Thats through TANS eyes, do you understand? Or shall I spell it out slower for you?

Forget about me, think how TAN will react to a stadium full of Season ticket renewals.

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Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:09 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:You support the club, you support Tan. I haven't made my mind up yet but I may renew. What voice do you have chuckles? We all support the club. A season ticket holder in TANS eyes is a thumbs up to him and the red. Thats through TANS eyes, do you understand? Or shall I spell it out slower for you?

Forget about me, think how TAN will react to a stadium full of Season ticket renewals.

:old:


And what if these renewals are wearing blue?

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:10 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:You support the club, you support Tan. I haven't made my mind up yet but I may renew. What voice do you have chuckles? We all support the club. A season ticket holder in TANS eyes is a thumbs up to him and the red. Thats through TANS eyes, do you understand? Or shall I spell it out slower for you?

Forget about me, think how TAN will react to a stadium full of Season ticket renewals.

:old:


You may renew? So you're having a go at fans that renew and you're thinking of doing it yourself?! :roll:

That's REAL hypocrisy, that.

Although, as I said - you could tell us all you are not renewing & do so. As you aren't an old man.

:old:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:13 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:You support the club, you support Tan. I haven't made my mind up yet but I may renew. What voice do you have chuckles? We all support the club. A season ticket holder in TANS eyes is a thumbs up to him and the red. Thats through TANS eyes, do you understand? Or shall I spell it out slower for you?

Forget about me, think how TAN will react to a stadium full of Season ticket renewals.

:old:


You may renew? So you're having a go at fans that renew and you're thinking of doing it yourself?! :roll:

That's REAL hypocrisy, that.

Although, as I said - you could tell us all you are not renewing & do so. As you aren't an old man.

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Haven't I made it very clear that if I do renew I will have forfeited it all right to complain about the rebrand, I know what I am signing up for this time Chuckles, stop twisting things. If I renew it will be because I back Tan and his vision, you have done the same so stop dressing it up as anything other.

Ahh, the lure of premier league football strikes again. Honestly, I think you are complete tool but I thought you were a tool that stuck to your guns and I respected that and many others did, no more.

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Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:15 pm

You tell people like myself that we cannot moan about things if we renew, yet you're looking at renewing and moaned about Tuesday night on here more than I did.

:roll: :roll:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:17 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:You tell people like myself that we cannot moan about things if we renew, yet you're looking at renewing and moaned about Tuesday night on here more than I did.

:roll: :roll:


Jesus wept you are stupid.

I haven't renewed yet, once I do, if I do, I will have fofeited all right to MOAN. IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND!

I have been man enough to admit that I will have "rolled over" for tan and support his red vision if I renew, you aren't which is PRICELESS!

:old: :old:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:20 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:You tell people like myself that we cannot moan about things if we renew, yet you're looking at renewing and moaned about Tuesday night on here more than I did.

:roll: :roll:


Jesus wept you are stupid.

I haven't renewed yet, once I do, if I do, I will have fofeited all right to MOAN. IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND!

I have been man enough to admit that I will have "rolled over" for tan and support his red vision if I renew, you aren't which is PRICELESS!

:old: :old:


Okay Bluebird Since 1998 :laughing6:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:21 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:You tell people like myself that we cannot moan about things if we renew, yet you're looking at renewing and moaned about Tuesday night on here more than I did.

:roll: :roll:


Jesus wept you are stupid.

I haven't renewed yet, once I do, if I do, I will have fofeited all right to MOAN. IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND!

I have been man enough to admit that I will have "rolled over" for tan and support his red vision if I renew, you aren't which is PRICELESS!

:old: :old:


Okay Bluebird Since 1998 :laughing6:


My thoughts exactly, instead of addressing the issues you attack me. Forgot my username answer the question. I got you backed into a corner here and your throwing your punches wildly missing.

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Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:22 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:You tell people like myself that we cannot moan about things if we renew, yet you're looking at renewing and moaned about Tuesday night on here more than I did.

:roll: :roll:


Jesus wept you are stupid.

I haven't renewed yet, once I do, if I do, I will have fofeited all right to MOAN. IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND!

I have been man enough to admit that I will have "rolled over" for tan and support his red vision if I renew, you aren't which is PRICELESS!

:old: :old:


Okay Bluebird Since 1998 :laughing6:


My thoughts exactly, instead of addressing the issues you attack me. Forgot my username answer the question. I got you backed into a corner here and your throwing your punches wildly missing.

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Not at all, we just have a difference in opinion.

If you think that, fine. I don't agree though. :thumbright:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:25 pm

Answer my question then. :thumbright:

Its not an opinion it's a fact. How will Tan see a season ticket renewal?

How is renewing your season ticket not supporting Tan and his vision?

Answer these because your floundering here and it's embarrassing.

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Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:27 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Answer my question then. :thumbright:

Its not an opinion it's a fact. How will Tan see a season ticket renewal?

How is renewing your season ticket not supporting Tan and his vision?

Answer these because your floundering here and it's embarrassing.

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No, it's not a fact at all. It's an opinion. You can keep getting aggressive and throwing insults around, but it's not making your opinion any more valid than mine. :sleepy2:

IF I didn't renew, someone else would take it. Tan wouldn't notice either way. :thumbright:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:30 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Answer my question then. :thumbright:

Its not an opinion it's a fact. How will Tan see a season ticket renewal?

How is renewing your season ticket not supporting Tan and his vision?

Answer these because your floundering here and it's embarrassing.

:old:


No, it's not a fact at all. It's an opinion. You can keep getting aggressive and throwing insults around, but it's not making your opinion any more valid than mine. :sleepy2:

IF I didn't renew, someone else would take it. Tan wouldn't notice either way. :thumbright:


Someone else taking your seat does not make it reason to renew. What Tan will see is renewal numbers from people who watched the club long before he arrived like you and I. How else can he read those huge number of renewals as anything other than support for him and his vision. He doesn't know he has pissed people off.

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Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:31 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Answer my question then. :thumbright:

Its not an opinion it's a fact. How will Tan see a season ticket renewal?

How is renewing your season ticket not supporting Tan and his vision?

Answer these because your floundering here and it's embarrassing.

:old:


No, it's not a fact at all. It's an opinion. You can keep getting aggressive and throwing insults around, but it's not making your opinion any more valid than mine. :sleepy2:

IF I didn't renew, someone else would take it. Tan wouldn't notice either way. :thumbright:


Someone else taking your seat does not make it reason to renew. What Tan will see is renewal numbers from people who watched the club long before he arrived like you and I. How else can he read those huge number of renewals as anything other than support for him and his vision. He doesn't know he has pissed people off.

:old:


I'd guess than Tan wouldn't give two shits about who has renewed/not renewed. All he will care about is how many tickets he's sold.

Again, only my opinion.

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:34 pm

Then we agree. He only cares about ticket sales. He will, rightly or wrongly see a stadium full of Cardiff fans as a thumbs up to his red vision. Which begs the question, how is he meant to know he's done wrong?

Genuine question.

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Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:35 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Then we agree. He only cares about ticket sales. He will, rightly or wrongly see a stadium full of Cardiff fans as a thumbs up to his red vision. Which begs the question, how is he meant to know he's done wrong?

Genuine question.

:old:


Exactly. He won't care if I don't renew, in fact he'd probably prefer it. Get some more pro red fans on board.

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:23 pm

PtB wrote:It's not really hypocrtical though, is it?

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support the rebrand.

spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:30 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Then we agree. He only cares about ticket sales. He will, rightly or wrongly see a stadium full of Cardiff fans as a thumbs up to his red vision. Which begs the question, how is he meant to know he's done wrong?

Genuine question.

:old:


Exactly. He won't care if I don't renew, in fact he'd probably prefer it. Get some more pro red fans on board.


You stick by your principles and fight a Malaysian billionaire from the ninian stand and don't forget to pay Tan for the privilege. :thumbright:

Re: Those against the rebrand

Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:27 pm

Very few cardiff fans have a backbone we wouldn't have stood for it in years gone by, we have turned in to a poncey club watched by middle class do good cunts, on par with clubs like reading