Gwyn jumping the fence is almost here

BIGGWYNRAM wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 23:06
The Voice of Reason wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 22:54
BIGGWYNRAM wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 22:22
PorthcawlBluebird wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 22:12
I am asking you straight, do you condemn the threats of violence made by your acquaintances at the KCB meeting?

Yes or no will suffice.



Condemn them, my God it was terrifying, they should be hung, drawn quartered, starved, water boarded, I was shaking for hours big bully boys, nasty nasty people, they were really scary, I went straight home and told my mother about what the big boys had said.

I can't understand why nobody reported them to the police, well actually has I said earlier a few did, but it was all unfounded, but still scary, they had tattoos and baseball hats.

If I condemn them, will you keep it to yourself and not split on me.


Hey Gwyn, the clock's ticking. You've got a selective memory but maybe you remember saying this at the meeting?

"If he hasn't turned his debt into shares in 6 months, I'll be the first one over the barricades."

TICK TOCK



Again more here say, ask people for the truth, what I said was firstly in the form of a question where i asked what they hoped to achieve by protesting at that moment, my view then as it is now was the more he had invested, risked or tied into the club, the more chance we had of getting him to change or adjust some of his decisions.

I then saaid that give it six months to see how things had progressed and if we find that he has shafted us by asset stripping or setting out to deliberately harm us, then protest and I would be first over the fence.

Now you may translate that into debt to equity in your head, but it's not what I said, and personally even now, I don't give a flying foof about the debt to equity, it's the same position we are in.

If it make business sense to hold of until Sam?Langston agree to settle, then so be it, if it makes business sense to keep it as a debt, the so be it, it's his debt, his money his club, even if he turns the debt to equity, it;s his equity, his club, it will never be ours.

Don't understand the fuss, it don't change anything either way, we are reliant on his financial support, and when we don't need to be and run at a profit, he will no doubt sell us and make a healthy profit, and good on him. Never thought he was here because he felt sorry for us and was performing a charitable act, he obviously sees the potential to make money, and whilst it's not what we may want, that is how it is, and not just at Cardiff.





I know what you said.

TICK TOCK


Taken from that link

How do you know? heard it from someone who was told by another who's cousin's sister had a boyfriend who told him he allegedly heard it, must be true then.

so you keep on saying but the only person you are convincing is yourself!!!!

Still waiting

Forever Blue wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
There was an outcry, Tan threatened to pull out, everyone including Annis shit themsrlves and backed down.

Sadly modern day football is all about foreign billionaires. Given the football being served up this season anyone who says they would rather be non league and blue than PL in red is either a liar, being a drama queen or living in a nostalgic fantasy world.

Dont bite the hand that feeds.


As much as I have had my disagreements with you in the past this post should be sticky'd. 100% spot on.


Polo,
I was not going to get involved in this post, but you were not there Polo, so dont involve me. I never totally backed down, we all went silent for a few minutes including me, then asked if we could compromise and keep our badge at least. As time went on, I realised we were being dictated to and blackmailed, that made me more against Tan.

Thats it, end of I hate the rebranding, but I still go and love my football, actually at Blackburn away I stood on my seat and clapped them at the end as they all came over. But I still F hate the colour/badge, but I wont desert.


And we know that that's not quite TRUE don't we. What were the words you used, "I didn't really mean I would stop going, I really didn't think he would go this far, I'll accept the changes if that's what it takes" then a few days later back to totally against it, or was that a dream.


What annis said.
"
I said a compromise.
Rem what you said at the Municipal club,If in 6 months time Tan has not changed the debt he has created in to shares/equity,you will be first over the fence at Tan. not rumours I heard it myself loud and clear. just 3 weeks away for Tan to do that. Like you and everyone wanted a debt free club first.

Gwyn replied.
"I remember well what i said, it's you that get's easily mixed up and hears what he wants to hear, others were there and heard the same comments.
Here goes again (now keep this saved and have a look to remind yourself now and then ) I said at the meeting, why protest now, what do you hope to achieve, if in six months time we find out he's shafted us or ripped us off, then protest, and I'll be first over the wall.

Now how you turn that into debt to equity is over my head, but I repeat personally i don't give a flying f**k whether he turns the debt into equity now or ever for that matter, it doesn't concern us and until he comes to sell the club it makes no difference, the club will have a value and debt and equity will be taken into account at that time, but it doesn't involve me or any other fan, what difference to you see either way.

It's his debt to himself, if he pays it off, he pays himself, we don't own the club, he still does lock stock and barrel, just because in business terms there is no debt, how does it help us or make things worse.

I care not a jot either way, because it doesn't affect me, but somehow it seems to affect you, perhaps you can explain why?"


That was from a thread about supporting the KCB.

After reading that bit it sounds like gwyn is right, unless you take annis's word for it.

Simple solution, ask Annis

Read it again.

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

In all fairness to Gwun he has remained consistent on the issue, altough Annis said a couple of times that Gwyn specifically said debt to equity or over this fence he goes.

Ask him then?

Why? It's right there where he wrote it!

I don't know why you're so hung up on it though - it's just how he recollects it, not hard proof.

BIGGWYNRAM wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 23:06
The Voice of Reason wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 22:54
BIGGWYNRAM wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 22:22
PorthcawlBluebird wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 22:12
I am asking you straight, do you condemn the threats of violence made by your acquaintances at the KCB meeting?

Yes or no will suffice.



Condemn them, my God it was terrifying, they should be hung, drawn quartered, starved, water boarded, I was shaking for hours big bully boys, nasty nasty people, they were really scary, I went straight home and told my mother about what the big boys had said.

I can't understand why nobody reported them to the police, well actually has I said earlier a few did, but it was all unfounded, but still scary, they had tattoos and baseball hats.

If I condemn them, will you keep it to yourself and not split on me.


Hey Gwyn, the clock's ticking. You've got a selective memory but maybe you remember saying this at the meeting?

"If he hasn't turned his debt into shares in 6 months, I'll be the first one over the barricades."

TICK TOCK



Again more here say, ask people for the truth, what I said was firstly in the form of a question where i asked what they hoped to achieve by protesting at that moment, my view then as it is now was the more he had invested, risked or tied into the club, the more chance we had of getting him to change or adjust some of his decisions.

I then saaid that give it six months to see how things had progressed and if we find that he has shafted us by asset stripping or setting out to deliberately harm us, then protest and I would be first over the fence.

Now you may translate that into debt to equity in your head, but it's not what I said, and personally even now, I don't give a flying foof about the debt to equity, it's the same position we are in.

If it make business sense to hold of until Sam?Langston agree to settle, then so be it, if it makes business sense to keep it as a debt, the so be it, it's his debt, his money his club, even if he turns the debt to equity, it;s his equity, his club, it will never be ours.

Don't understand the fuss, it don't change anything either way, we are reliant on his financial support, and when we don't need to be and run at a profit, he will no doubt sell us and make a healthy profit, and good on him. Never thought he was here because he felt sorry for us and was performing a charitable act, he obviously sees the potential to make money, and whilst it's not what we may want, that is how it is, and not just at Cardiff.





I know what you said.

TICK TOCK


Taken from that link

How do you know? heard it from someone who was told by another who's cousin's sister had a boyfriend who told him he allegedly heard it, must be true then.

so you keep on saying but the only person you are convincing is yourself!!!!

And who have you convinced, we still waiting to see one shred of proof, rather than lots of heresay and gossip.
I know its strange for a politician, especially one who gets struck off and is proven to be a liar in the National press.
Proven liar and published.

Still waiting

Quote below taken from your post entitled "Have I Missed Something" posted by you on 26th of July at 09.21 am.
"My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry."

Second quote below was your reply to my post titled F.A.O Gwyn posted July 31st at 09.21.
"What I said from the start and still stand by, is if VT does shaft us, and I don't think that he will, then we should protest and give him both barrels. If on the other hand he invests as he has said he will, then we should thank him for his support and work with him to try and negotiate changes that the fans want, but which are acceptable too him."

I am sure there is more and will look deeper if needed but the above proves the point.

Prroves the point that I did not mention anything with regard to debt to equity, cheers for finding it

Thats crap Gwyn and you know it. You comments are specifically relating to the promises that went along with the rebrand and the main promise as we all know was the settling of the Langston debt. Even you cannot deny that this was the main promise given at that time. You then set a time limit to protest of 6 months. Don't want to start a war here but you said what you said.

Still waiting

Quote below taken from your post entitled "Have I Missed Something" posted by you on 26th of July at 09.21 am.
"My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry."

Second quote below was your reply to my post titled F.A.O Gwyn posted July 31st at 09.21.
"What I said from the start and still stand by, is if VT does shaft us, and I don't think that he will, then we should protest and give him both barrels. If on the other hand he invests as he has said he will, then we should thank him for his support and work with him to try and negotiate changes that the fans want, but which are acceptable too him."

I am sure there is more and will look deeper if needed but the above proves the point.

Prroves the point that I did not mention anything with regard to debt to equity, cheers for finding it

Thats crap Gwyn and you know it. You comments are specifically relating to the promises that went along with the rebrand and the main promise as we all know was the settling of the Langston debt. Even you cannot deny that this was the main promise given at that time. You then set a time limit to protest of 6 months. Don't want to start a war here but you said what you said.

Well said

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

In all fairness to Gwun he has remained consistent on the issue, altough Annis said a couple of times that Gwyn specifically said debt to equity or over this fence he goes.

Ask him then?

Why? It's right there where he wrote it!

I don't know why you're so hung up on it though - it's just how he recollects it, not hard proof.

I think you'll find that when I stated that night that if after six months we find out he's shafted us, then protest, now that is what was said, if Annis assumes that means if he hasn't transferred the debt to equity in six months, you best ask him.
But how can any of us put a date on it when he has said it would never be done before the Langston issue was settled, can't remember him putting a time scale on that?if I'm wrong, show me.

In all fairness to Gwun he has remained consistent on the issue, altough Annis said a couple of times that Gwyn specifically said debt to equity or over this fence he goes.

Ask him then?

Why? It's right there where he wrote it!

I don't know why you're so hung up on it though - it's just how he recollects it, not hard proof.

I think you'll find that when I stated that night that if after six months we find out he's shafted us, then protest, now that is what was said, if Annis assumes that means if he hasn't transferred the debt to equity in six months, you best ask him.
But how can any of us put a date on it when he has said it would never be done before the Langston issue was settled, can't remember him putting a time scale on that?if I'm wrong, show me.

Super fan , super , super super fan

The wanker who actually takes a pair of binochulars to a game to try and track an Internet poster called Barry chuckle

What a f*cking wanker who really needs to get a life !!

are you serious..?

In all fairness to Gwun he has remained consistent on the issue, altough Annis said a couple of times that Gwyn specifically said debt to equity or over this fence he goes.

Ask him then?

Why? It's right there where he wrote it!

I don't know why you're so hung up on it though - it's just how he recollects it, not hard proof.

I think you'll find that when I stated that night that if after six months we find out he's shafted us, then protest, now that is what was said, if Annis assumes that means if he hasn't transferred the debt to equity in six months, you best ask him.
But how can any of us put a date on it when he has said it would never be done before the Langston issue was settled, can't remember him putting a time scale on that?if I'm wrong, show me.

Super fan , super , super super fan

The wanker who actually takes a pair of binochulars to a game to try and track an Internet poster called Barry chuckle

What a f*cking wanker who really needs to get a life !!

are you serious..?

Straight up --- spying to find Barry chuckle

Sad tw*t hey ?

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

You put it on the board and was taking loads of stick for being the only one to mention the amount and look for praise, you were taking so much stick that Annis even asked me to try and turn it around which I tried to by saying,, it may have been a bit misguided, but at least the family will benefit from your generosity, and then you don't follow through with it, scum.

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Its always good to put a face to contacts, makes it easier to have a conversation. remember your last one, please stop hitting me, I'm sorry I wont do it again, don't bite me again, help me mamma help me.
Maay not always find you in the kitchen at party's, but may find you face down crying on the floor in strip clubs.

Maybe his eyesight is going bad and he just wanted to see the players?

Will he deny ????

Straight up --- spying to find Barry chuckle

Sad tw*t hey ?

Tell me this isn't right Gwyn.But then again after your performance today then I wouldn't believe your answer anyway!!!

Ask him then?[/quote]

Why? It's right there where he wrote it!

I don't know why you're so hung up on it though - it's just how he recollects it, not hard proof.[/quote]


I think you'll find that when I stated that night that if after six months we find out he's shafted us, then protest, now that is what was said, if Annis assumes that means if he hasn't transferred the debt to equity in six months, you best ask him.
But how can any of us put a date on it when he has said it would never be done before the Langston issue was settled, can't remember him putting a time scale on that?if I'm wrong, show me.[/quote]


Super fan , super , super super fan

The wanker who actually takes a pair of binochulars to a game to try and track an Internet poster called Barry chuckle

What a f*cking wanker who really needs to get a life !![/quote]

are you serious..?[/quote]

Straight up --- spying to find Barry chuckle

Sad tw*t hey ?[/quote]

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

You put it on the board and was taking loads of stick for being the only one to mention the amount and look for praise, you were taking so much stick that Annis even asked me to try and turn it around which I tried to by saying,, it may have been a bit misguided, but at least the family will benefit from your generosity, and then you don't follow through with it, scum.

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Its always good to put a face to contacts, makes it easier to have a conversation. remember your last one, please stop hitting me, I'm sorry I wont do it again, don't bite me again, help me mamma help me.
Maay not always find you in the kitchen at party's, but may find you face down crying on the floor in strip clubs.

Completely unneccessary.

Straight up --- spying to find Barry chuckle

Sad tw*t hey ?

Tell me this isn't right Gwyn.But then again after your performance today then I wouldn't believe your answer anyway!!!

What's he one today ????

Straight up --- spying to find Barry chuckle

Sad tw*t hey ?

Tell me this isn't right Gwyn.But then again after your performance today then I wouldn't believe your answer anyway!!!

Course its right, mind you he had put his own picture up on here with his membership cards, but with my eyes being what they are, I need a closer look.
Nothing like healthy debate when you know who your talking with, I always feel a bit comfier then, no neeed to hide, unless your Daya, and even then he gets caught.

Straight up --- spying to find Barry chuckle

Sad tw*t hey ?

Tell me this isn't right Gwyn.But then again after your performance today then I wouldn't believe your answer anyway!!!

What's he one today ????

I'm absolutely shocked

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

You put it on the board and was taking loads of stick for being the only one to mention the amount and look for praise, you were taking so much stick that Annis even asked me to try and turn it around which I tried to by saying,, it may have been a bit misguided, but at least the family will benefit from your generosity, and then you don't follow through with it, scum.

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Its always good to put a face to contacts, makes it easier to have a conversation. remember your last one, please stop hitting me, I'm sorry I wont do it again, don't bite me again, help me mamma help me.
Maay not always find you in the kitchen at party's, but may find you face down crying on the floor in strip clubs.

Completely unneccessary.

Lot's don't think so, there was a queue, they gonna sell raffle tickets next time and the money goes to charity,

another action by you which can be seen as Bullying

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

You put it on the board and was taking loads of stick for being the only one to mention the amount and look for praise, you were taking so much stick that Annis even asked me to try and turn it around which I tried to by saying,, it may have been a bit misguided, but at least the family will benefit from your generosity, and then you don't follow through with it, scum.

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Its always good to put a face to contacts, makes it easier to have a conversation. remember your last one, please stop hitting me, I'm sorry I wont do it again, don't bite me again, help me mamma help me.
Maay not always find you in the kitchen at party's, but may find you face down crying on the floor in strip clubs.

Oh big mans off on another violent streak lol lol ------- when caught out revert to abuse , you weren't even there fat boy !!

Mind you we heard your fables of bullshit last night too

Super fan ---- ha ha super fan ------- you know TLG tracked your history !!! Newbie more than superfan

Fancy watching out or a Internet poster - YOU SAD tw*t

In all fairness to Gwun he has remained consistent on the issue, altough Annis said a couple of times that Gwyn specifically said debt to equity or over this fence he goes.

Ask him then?

Why? It's right there where he wrote it!

I don't know why you're so hung up on it though - it's just how he recollects it, not hard proof.

I think you'll find that when I stated that night that if after six months we find out he's shafted us, then protest, now that is what was said, if Annis assumes that means if he hasn't transferred the debt to equity in six months, you best ask him.
But how can any of us put a date on it when he has said it would never be done before the Langston issue was settled, can't remember him putting a time scale on that?if I'm wrong, show me.

Your quote below giving VT 6 months specifically relates to VT fulfilling the promises that went along with the rebrand. Considering that the settling of the Langston debt was by far the biggest promise associated with the promises given as part of the rebrand then you can hardly deny that you did not include this when making your comments. Its sometimes easier to accept that you promised to protest but you have now changed your mind (again) rather than insulting the intellegence of posters on this forum.
"My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry."

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

You put it on the board and was taking loads of stick for being the only one to mention the amount and look for praise, you were taking so much stick that Annis even asked me to try and turn it around which I tried to by saying,, it may have been a bit misguided, but at least the family will benefit from your generosity, and then you don't follow through with it, scum.

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Its always good to put a face to contacts, makes it easier to have a conversation. remember your last one, please stop hitting me, I'm sorry I wont do it again, don't bite me again, help me mamma help me.
Maay not always find you in the kitchen at party's, but may find you face down crying on the floor in strip clubs.

Completely unneccessary.

Lot's don't think so, there was a queue, they gonna sell raffle tickets next time and the money goes to charity,

....I meant the comment not the act.

Yes, daya was putting the spotlight on some admittedly odd behaviour, which was probably a bit embarassing for you.

"Yeah, but you took a beating once" is hardly a creative response.

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

You put it on the board and was taking loads of stick for being the only one to mention the amount and look for praise, you were taking so much stick that Annis even asked me to try and turn it around which I tried to by saying,, it may have been a bit misguided, but at least the family will benefit from your generosity, and then you don't follow through with it, scum.

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Its always good to put a face to contacts, makes it easier to have a conversation. remember your last one, please stop hitting me, I'm sorry I wont do it again, don't bite me again, help me mamma help me.
Maay not always find you in the kitchen at party's, but may find you face down crying on the floor in strip clubs.

Completely unneccessary.

Lot's don't think so, there was a queue, they gonna sell raffle tickets next time and the money goes to charity,

As I said. - Gwyn Davies , very sad man, very sad indeed .

Thankfully most have seen through " super fan "

He's a fraud .

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Daya i remember you offering to donate did you go through with it after?

Maybe his eyesight is going bad and he just wanted to see the players?

Pretty close to the truth, due an op on my right eye in February, can't come soon enough, losing sight and focus in right eye at the rate of knots, and whilst the good left one would make up for it, the last few months have been a struggle, even tried an eye patch but f**k me, I take enough stick as it is

The Operation should solve it, so they say, but time will tell.

The binocular story comes about from the Peterboro game when we went up to the ten pound level four upgrade, met Carl there with his daughter, he asked what the Bins were for and I said to get a look at Barry Chuckles, now the irony may pass a few, but am I bothered, mind you, this was after Carl had told me that Barry Chuckle was actually a lad called Alex Clark and he lives in Porthcawl, think he was flushed out by Carl pretending to be a Western mail reporter offering Chuckles five minute of fame for his petition stance.
Think Carl wanted to know who this Chuckles chap was because he had been having a pop at Carl recently, but hey who knows.

As for me looking for him with Binoculars, sounds like a good plan with 26,000 people in the stadium.

Where's your binocs

Where's Mikey Dyyes thousand pound.

The only man who came on here bragging about how much he was going to donate, and then the only one of hundreds who didn't follow it up, lower than low, how could anyone do that to a fellow fans widow, scum.

You don't know what your taking about - Again . It really grinds you that you don't know the truth though doesn't it " super fan "

You put it on the board and was taking loads of stick for being the only one to mention the amount and look for praise, you were taking so much stick that Annis even asked me to try and turn it around which I tried to by saying,, it may have been a bit misguided, but at least the family will benefit from your generosity, and then you don't follow through with it, scum.

So how do you justify trying to " find " fellow fans with your binoculars at a game - You sad fat c**t

Its always good to put a face to contacts, makes it easier to have a conversation. remember your last one, please stop hitting me, I'm sorry I wont do it again, don't bite me again, help me mamma help me.
Maay not always find you in the kitchen at party's, but may find you face down crying on the floor in strip clubs.

If they fo prove Gwyn said it, and then he doesnt jump the fence whats going to happen?

Does he get a ban? Season ticket revoked?