The clock is ticking

Nobody really cares when it will be done.

The most important thing is Blackburn are done tonight.

So you can hush your gums and stop trying to shit stir as well.

I do - seeing as until it is done, we are paying interest on the loan.

You're wrong, we are not paying any loan money to VT, even the club have said that VT has not taken a penny out of the club, the money is owed to him on paper through balance sheets, same as abramovich at chelsea and at many other clubs, also, anyone involved in business, especially high finance will tell you, a 7% interest rate loan is quite a low.

One minute you claim we aren't, then you say it's only low.

Make your mind up.

shut up you idiot,my wardrobe is full of cardiff.how old are you?people can vouch for me bein city season ticket holder.come an chat to me n find out if you aint busy meeting your friends

How old am I? Old enough to not go around calling people "idiots" because I don't agree with them on a message board..

What are you babbling on about now? Why would I want to come and meet you? Bit strange, asking strangers to meet you online..

I bet that red shirt is in your wardrobe too

does any 1 in the stadium actually know you by barry chuckle?

What has that got to do with anything?

Chuckle, if you despise this "franchise" you claim us to be so much why dont you f**k off and leave all us "sellouts" be

Could it be you dont dislike us like you claim and are just trying to look "cool"

For someone that despises what we are, you dont half come on here a lot.

This is a CCFC message board for opinions, that's my opinion. Simple as that.

Yawn.

shut up you idiot,my wardrobe is full of cardiff.how old are you?people can vouch for me bein city season ticket holder.come an chat to me n find out if you aint busy meeting your friends

How old am I? Old enough to not go around calling people "idiots" because I don't agree with them on a message board..

What are you babbling on about now? Why would I want to come and meet you? Bit strange, asking strangers to meet you online..

I bet that red shirt is in your wardrobe too

does any 1 in the stadium actually know you by barry chuckle?

What has that got to do with anything?

Well,the people iv met off this messageboard knows my real name n my alias on the mb...i tell them that so that they can see i dont hide behind a keyboard

shut up you idiot,my wardrobe is full of cardiff.how old are you?people can vouch for me bein city season ticket holder.come an chat to me n find out if you aint busy meeting your friends

How old am I? Old enough to not go around calling people "idiots" because I don't agree with them on a message board..

What are you babbling on about now? Why would I want to come and meet you? Bit strange, asking strangers to meet you online..

I bet that red shirt is in your wardrobe too

does any 1 in the stadium actually know you by barry chuckle?

What has that got to do with anything?

Well,the people iv met off this messageboard knows my real name n my alias on the mb...i tell them that so that they can see i dont hide behind a keyboard

Good for you. Hiding behind a keyboard? I'm on my ipad actually..

Seriously, it's nothing to do with "hiding behind a keyboard" - its not a pre-requisite to have everyone know you. People have different opinions, just because you don't agree with me, you don't see me demanding to know who you and are demanding to meet you. It's quite childish.

Nobody really cares when it will be done.

The most important thing is Blackburn are done tonight.

So you can hush your gums and stop trying to shit stir as well.

I do - seeing as until it is done, we are paying interest on the loan.

You're wrong, we are not paying any loan money to VT, even the club have said that VT has not taken a penny out of the club, the money is owed to him on paper through balance sheets, same as abramovich at chelsea and at many other clubs, also, anyone involved in business, especially high finance will tell you, a 7% interest rate loan is quite a low.

One minute you claim we aren't, then you say it's only low.

Make your mind up.

Of course the money has to be eventually paid back to someone, maybe VT or maybe a new owner has to pay for it, but as of this moment we are paying him nothing.

Which is how the debt builds.

I'd just feel a lot more "secure" about it all when he does the transfer from debt to equity.

Back in the summer a 'certain' poster on here stated in a public meeting that 'if Tan doesn't turn the debt into shares back January then I will be the first over the fence'.

Can that 'certain' poster confirm that its still the case as we are only weeks away from the deadline now

Why dont you meet the posters you have questions for in a pub before a game if it really concerns you that much?

That's quite a statement!.....
are you saying everytime someone is questioned on here they should meet and [color=#0000FF]get it on?
Is that what you would do?[/color]

But thats it you are not just questioning because of your concerns your doing it to try and stir and wind people up and get a bite.
Not sure what you mean when you say get it on?

I'm assuming he means have a fight.

Which is how the debt builds.

I'd just feel a lot more "secure" about it all when he does the transfer from debt to equity.

Debts built up under hammam, he sold our best players to service them, debts built up under the riddler, he just let them build with us ending up with numerous winding up orders, transfer embargos, staff at the club not getting wages, our future transfers money being sold off to ray ranson, (do i need to go on??) now since VT has been in charge have any of the above happened???

Which is how the debt builds.

I'd just feel a lot more "secure" about it all when he does the transfer from debt to equity.

Debts built up under hammam, he sold our best players to service them, debts built up under the riddler, he just let them build with us ending up with numerous winding up orders, transfer embargos, staff at the club not getting wages, our future transfers money being sold off to ray ranson, (do i need to go on??) now since VT has been in charge have any of the above happened???

Not yet, seeing as he's only had full control for a short while.

I don't trust the man - if he wanted to rebrand, why not talk with the fans about it? He sacks anyone who questions any of his decisions and originally didn't even want the bluebird on his lucky red shirts.

So, no it hasn't happened yet, but I don't exactly trust him either.

How do you know why he has sacked people?

How do you know why he has sacked people?

It's widely reported. Either that or an amazing number of coincidences.

I'm assuming he means have a fight.

What i meant is if he actually attends a game he could ask these people then instead of on continually asking on here all the timeif it concerns him that much.
Bollocks to him anyway

Hes been to 3 games in 2 years and one of them was the Carling Cup Final and that my friends is a FACT.

Brownie a Cardiff fan?

In the words of Jim Royle "MY AAAARSE"

Hes been to 3 games in 2 years and one of them was the Carling Cup Final and that my friends is a FACT.

Brownie a Cardiff fan?

In the words of Jim Royle "MY AAAARSE"

So why does he keep posting on here about the club all the time?

Hes been to 3 games in 2 years and one of them was the Carling Cup Final and that my friends is a FACT.

Brownie a Cardiff fan?

In the words of Jim Royle "MY AAAARSE"

One of those is he?

Hes been to 3 games in 2 years and one of them was the Carling Cup Final and that my friends is a FACT.

Brownie a Cardiff fan?

In the words of Jim Royle "MY AAAARSE"

So why does he keep posting on here about the club all the time?

Cos hes not playing with a full deck of cards thats why. Always been the same. Nice enough lad, although a tw*t on here, but always been away with the fairies.

Cmon, you only have to look at his history as a politician to know hes not well. He was in the Merthyr Express every week, the national press also, he just loves the attention.

Back in the summer a 'certain' poster on here stated in a public meeting that 'if Tan doesn't turn the debt into shares back January then I will be the first over the fence'.

Can that 'certain' poster confirm that its still the case as we are only weeks away from the deadline now

Yet again Adam acting off internet gossip and second hand info, if you actually did anything Cardiff City uch as go to a game, got to meetings regarding a subject so close to your heart You may actually know what you are talking about.

There were over one hundred people at that meeting, they will give witness as to what was said by me, now the actual truth is what I said was why protest now? what are you hoping to achieve, let's give him six months and if we have found out that he has shafted us, then protest, and I'll be first over the fence.

Now being top of the league, owing no bills to HMRC or local business', now monthly winding up orders, and academy that has quadrupled its staff, a training ground being planned and built, a new indoor training facility built, the Egg thrown out and the stadium revamped, to me that sounds like progress rather than shafted.

As for turning the debt to himself to equity, personally that don't bother me one bit, it's just business decisions and either way he totally own us, people seem to think that if we turn the debt to equity, then we own the club, total bollox,
whilst others keep bringing this up, you'll find it doesn't bother me, and also as we know without the agreement of Langston, the debt to equity can't be done, i'm sure when it is done and it makes business sens for Vt to turn the debt to equity then he'll do it, on the other hand if it makes more sense for tax or business reasons to leave it as it is, then so be it, either way he still owns the club lock stock and barrel.

That's the truth and fact Adam, but don't let it spoil your image of how it is in internet gossip land.

Translated, what this actually means is... "I'll make a load of excuses for the Malaysians not doing what they said they'd do, point out the far less important positive things that they have done for us, and maintain that i was right even though i was wrong from the start to avoid looking stupid and like i've let my club down."

Back in the summer a 'certain' poster on here stated in a public meeting that 'if Tan doesn't turn the debt into shares back January then I will be the first over the fence'.

Can that 'certain' poster confirm that its still the case as we are only weeks away from the deadline now

Yet again Adam acting off internet gossip and second hand info, if you actually did anything Cardiff City uch as go to a game, got to meetings regarding a subject so close to your heart You may actually know what you are talking about.

There were over one hundred people at that meeting, they will give witness as to what was said by me, now the actual truth is what I said was why protest now? what are you hoping to achieve, let's give him six months and if we have found out that he has shafted us, then protest, and I'll be first over the fence.

Now being top of the league, owing no bills to HMRC or local business', now monthly winding up orders, and academy that has quadrupled its staff, a training ground being planned and built, a new indoor training facility built, the Egg thrown out and the stadium revamped, to me that sounds like progress rather than shafted.

As for turning the debt to himself to equity, personally that don't bother me one bit, it's just business decisions and either way he totally own us, people seem to think that if we turn the debt to equity, then we own the club, total bollox,
whilst others keep bringing this up, you'll find it doesn't bother me, and also as we know without the agreement of Langston, the debt to equity can't be done, i'm sure when it is done and it makes business sens for Vt to turn the debt to equity then he'll do it, on the other hand if it makes more sense for tax or business reasons to leave it as it is, then so be it, either way he still owns the club lock stock and barrel.

That's the truth and fact Adam, but don't let it spoil your image of how it is in internet gossip land.

But you did say you'd be the first one over the fence didn't you?

Yes, he did. I remember him saying it on here to me.

Back in the summer a 'certain' poster on here stated in a public meeting that 'if Tan doesn't turn the debt into shares back January then I will be the first over the fence'.

Can that 'certain' poster confirm that its still the case as we are only weeks away from the deadline now

Yet again Adam acting off internet gossip and second hand info, if you actually did anything Cardiff City uch as go to a game, got to meetings regarding a subject so close to your heart You may actually know what you are talking about.

There were over one hundred people at that meeting, they will give witness as to what was said by me, now the actual truth is what I said was why protest now? what are you hoping to achieve, let's give him six months and if we have found out that he has shafted us, then protest, and I'll be first over the fence.

Now being top of the league, owing no bills to HMRC or local business', now monthly winding up orders, and academy that has quadrupled its staff, a training ground being planned and built, a new indoor training facility built, the Egg thrown out and the stadium revamped, to me that sounds like progress rather than shafted.

As for turning the debt to himself to equity, personally that don't bother me one bit, it's just business decisions and either way he totally own us, people seem to think that if we turn the debt to equity, then we own the club, total bollox,
whilst others keep bringing this up, you'll find it doesn't bother me, and also as we know without the agreement of Langston, the debt to equity can't be done, i'm sure when it is done and it makes business sens for Vt to turn the debt to equity then he'll do it, on the other hand if it makes more sense for tax or business reasons to leave it as it is, then so be it, either way he still owns the club lock stock and barrel.

That's the truth and fact Adam, but don't let it spoil your image of how it is in internet gossip land.

But you did say you'd be the first one over the fence didn't you?

Yes I said it and stand by it, and as I said
originally if they deliberately set out to shaft US or hurt us then I will be over the fence.

Back in the summer a 'certain' poster on here stated in a public meeting that 'if Tan doesn't turn the debt into shares back January then I will be the first over the fence'.

Can that 'certain' poster confirm that its still the case as we are only weeks away from the deadline now

Yet again Adam acting off internet gossip and second hand info, if you actually did anything Cardiff City uch as go to a game, got to meetings regarding a subject so close to your heart You may actually know what you are talking about.

There were over one hundred people at that meeting, they will give witness as to what was said by me, now the actual truth is what I said was why protest now? what are you hoping to achieve, let's give him six months and if we have found out that he has shafted us, then protest, and I'll be first over the fence.

Now being top of the league, owing no bills to HMRC or local business', now monthly winding up orders, and academy that has quadrupled its staff, a training ground being planned and built, a new indoor training facility built, the Egg thrown out and the stadium revamped, to me that sounds like progress rather than shafted.

As for turning the debt to himself to equity, personally that don't bother me one bit, it's just business decisions and either way he totally own us, people seem to think that if we turn the debt to equity, then we own the club, total bollox,
whilst others keep bringing this up, you'll find it doesn't bother me, and also as we know without the agreement of Langston, the debt to equity can't be done, i'm sure when it is done and it makes business sens for Vt to turn the debt to equity then he'll do it, on the other hand if it makes more sense for tax or business reasons to leave it as it is, then so be it, either way he still owns the club lock stock and barrel.

That's the truth and fact Adam, but don't let it spoil your image of how it is in internet gossip land.

But you did say you'd be the first one over the fence didn't you?

Yes I said it and stand by it, and as I said
originally if they deliberately set out to shaft US or hurt us then I will be over the fence.

Why would they set out to do it deliberately? That would make no sense to them.

But if they ruin our club accidentally then that's perfectly alright is it?

The fact is that not only have they rebranded the club (which is bad enough to the most loyal fans amongst us) for no reason, but they havent even done the most important part of what they said they'd do to make it even relatively worthwhile yet.

The fact is that not only have they rebranded the club (which is bad enough to the most loyal fans amongst us) for no reason, but they havent even done the most important part of what they said they'd do to make it even relatively worthwhile yet.

Which is what .?

The fact is that not only have they rebranded the club (which is bad enough to the most loyal fans amongst us) for no reason, but they havent even done the most important part of what they said they'd do to make it even relatively worthwhile yet.

Which is what .?

Gwyn, you don't need me to tell you.

I for one am enjoying the ride and have not got any reason to distrust Vincent Tan in what he is doing for my club. I much prefer to be playing at this end of the league consistently in front of the biggest crowds i have known. 20000+ every week and we are didappointed. That says everything about how far rhis club has come. The debt will be paid off have no doubt.

In the meantime enjoy the ride and don't let the doom merchants and fake City people on here convince you other wise. They are becoming less and less by the week as Cardiff keep winning and the crowds get bigger still. (Have you seen the tickets going out for Peterboro and Palace games?)

I for one am enjoying the ride and have not got any reason to distrust Vincent Tan in what he is doing for my club. I much prefer to be playing at this end of the league consistently in front of the biggest crowds i have known. 20000+ every week and we are didappointed. That says everything about how far rhis club has come. The debt will be paid off have no doubt.

In the meantime enjoy the ride and don't let the doom merchants and fake City people on here convince you other wise. They are becoming less and less by the week as Cardiff keep winning and the crowds get bigger still. (Have you seen the tickets going out for Peterboro and Palace games?)

Crowds get bigger still??

They've dropped from last season...

Crowds get bigger still??

They've dropped from last season...

barry you an angry man are the worst on here for slagging off the current board members off
why dont you both put up an you two be the first over the fence instead of shouting your mouths off
on here.as per usaul it all mouth no action