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Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:50 pm

rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:53 pm

No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. :ayatollah:



whats a real fan whats a sell out?? myself dont care about badge /shirt only name cardiff city! so what does that make me??? honest anser plse

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:56 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. :ayatollah:



whats a real fan whats a sell out?? myself dont care about badge /shirt only name cardiff city! so what does that make me??? honest anser plse


A sellout is a person that only wants to see local premier league football and fill their autograph books knowing that it will kill the club, but it's a sacrifice they are willing to take.... While throwing in the clubs historic colours and badge to boot.

A real fan is one that takes a stand and the club always comes first over anything, including premiership football. A real fan would rather walk on hot coals rather than give away our badge and colours for a bit of cash.

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:57 pm

No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:


Fair play respect where it's due. Bet you got a fan number un'all.

Funny how you joined just over a month ago to air your views on here now. That make you a plastic?

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:59 pm

rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:


Fair play respect where it's due. Bet you got a fan number un'all.

Funny how you joined just over a month ago to air your views on here now. That make you a plastic?


:lol: yeah proper plastic. My mate has been going even longer than me, this is his 45th season but doesn't have an account on the forum... I'll let him know :D

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:00 pm

Thomasblue got a lot to answer for :lol:

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:02 pm

No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:


Fair play respect where it's due. Bet you got a fan number un'all.

Funny how you joined just over a month ago to air your views on here now. That make you a plastic?


:lol: yeah proper plastic. My mate has been going even longer than me, this is his 45th season but doesn't have an account on the forum... I'll let him know :D


You knows it. Bet you got a misses too who loves you spending all your time on here

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:03 pm

No Smoking wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. :ayatollah:



whats a real fan whats a sell out?? myself dont care about badge /shirt only name cardiff city! so what does that make me??? honest anser plse


A sellout is a person that only wants to see local premier league football and fill their autograph books knowing that it will kill the club, but it's a sacrifice they are willing to take.... While throwing in the clubs historic colours and badge to boot.

A real fan is one that takes a stand and the club always comes first over anything, including premiership football. A real fan would rather walk on hot coals rather than give away our badge and colours for a bit of cash.


ah well i dont fall into any catagory then as i dont care about badge/shirt but premiership be nice but not end of world but then if dont get there next 2 yrs i shall be armchair fan as cannot justify 2k a year to watch them (cost now) and probably if get their only watch for 1 season just comeing to end of my time after 43yrs and cost wiuld be to much aswell

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:03 pm

rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:


Fair play respect where it's due. Bet you got a fan number un'all.

Funny how you joined just over a month ago to air your views on here now. That make you a plastic?


:lol: yeah proper plastic. My mate has been going even longer than me, this is his 45th season but doesn't have an account on the forum... I'll let him know :D


You knows it. Bet you got a misses too who loves you spending all your time on here


I think you have a gambling issue mate

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:05 pm

No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:


Fair play respect where it's due. Bet you got a fan number un'all.

Funny how you joined just over a month ago to air your views on here now. That make you a plastic?


:lol: yeah proper plastic. My mate has been going even longer than me, this is his 45th season but doesn't have an account on the forum... I'll let him know :D


You knows it. Bet you got a misses too who loves you spending all your time on here


I think you have a gambling issue mate


You've definitely got a cardiff issue.

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:09 pm

Absolutely. Real fan see.

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:10 pm

No Smoking wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:uncle Huw


An you are implying I'm a swans fan. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll answer anyway. It doesn't matter what he's worth, it doesn't come into it. Swansea don't loan money. They spend what they earn.

City fans seem to have got confused what a chairman is supposed to do. He's supposed to act as a treasurer for the clubs money and spend it with the manager accordingly. Not loan the club millions of pounds while tacking on interest to cripple it.

Swansea have spent £25 million on players in 2 seasons, every penny earned by the club and not borrowed a dime.

That is how you run football clubs. Not owing £30m to one investor (Sam) who now wants his money back while owing another £60m to another (Tan) and then looking for another (sultan of Aladdin) racking up interest on every one of them while not even having enough income to pay the players.


What give you that idea???? you really are comedy gold :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:11 pm

The man said that my chairman was Huw.... Doesn't take a brain surgeon.

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:13 pm

No Smoking wrote:Absolutely. Real fan see.


Prove it

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:14 pm

Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:[/quote]

Fair play respect where it's due. Bet you got a fan number un'all.

Funny how you joined just over a month ago to air your views on here now. That make you a plastic?[/quote]

:lol: yeah proper plastic. My mate has been going even longer than me, this is his 45th season but doesn't have an account on the forum... I'll let him know :D[/quote]

You knows it. Bet you got a misses too who loves you spending all your time on here[/quote]

I think you have a gambling issue mate[/quote]

You've definitely got a cardiff issue.[/quote]

It's because he's a jack.

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:14 pm

rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:Absolutely. Real fan see.


Prove it


Why?

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:15 pm

cityone wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:uncle Huw


An you are implying I'm a swans fan. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll answer anyway. It doesn't matter what he's worth, it doesn't come into it. Swansea don't loan money. They spend what they earn.

City fans seem to have got confused what a chairman is supposed to do. He's supposed to act as a treasurer for the clubs money and spend it with the manager accordingly. Not loan the club millions of pounds while tacking on interest to cripple it.

Swansea have spent £25 million on players in 2 seasons, every penny earned by the club and not borrowed a dime.

That is how you run football clubs. Not owing £30m to one investor (Sam) who now wants his money back while owing another £60m to another (Tan) and then looking for another (sultan of Aladdin) racking up interest on every one of them while not even having enough income to pay the players.


What give you that idea???? you really are comedy gold :lol: :lol: :lol:


mmm swansea earned money doesnt he mean premiership money, they dont have income of 22mil outside what they get from premier 20p maybe :D

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:15 pm

cityone wrote:Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. Creaming themselves at the thought of another high interest loan from a fresh loan shark :ayatollah:


Fair play respect where it's due. Bet you got a fan number un'all.

Funny how you joined just over a month ago to air your views on here now. That make you a plastic?[/quote]

:lol: yeah proper plastic. My mate has been going even longer than me, this is his 45th season but doesn't have an account on the forum... I'll let him know :D[/quote]

You knows it. Bet you got a misses too who loves you spending all your time on here[/quote]

I think you have a gambling issue mate[/quote]

You've definitely got a cardiff issue.[/quote]

It's because he's a jack.[/quote]

Apparently not. Waiting to be proved wrong

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:15 pm

cityone wrote:]

It's because he's a jack.


Interesting guess.

Source?

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:18 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
cityone wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:uncle Huw


An you are implying I'm a swans fan. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll answer anyway. It doesn't matter what he's worth, it doesn't come into it. Swansea don't loan money. They spend what they earn.

City fans seem to have got confused what a chairman is supposed to do. He's supposed to act as a treasurer for the clubs money and spend it with the manager accordingly. Not loan the club millions of pounds while tacking on interest to cripple it.

Swansea have spent £25 million on players in 2 seasons, every penny earned by the club and not borrowed a dime.

That is how you run football clubs. Not owing £30m to one investor (Sam) who now wants his money back while owing another £60m to another (Tan) and then looking for another (sultan of Aladdin) racking up interest on every one of them while not even having enough income to pay the players.


What give you that idea???? you really are comedy gold :lol: :lol: :lol:


mmm swansea earned money doesnt he mean premiership money, they dont have income of 22mil outside what they get from premier 20p maybe :D


Can someone translate?

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:19 pm

rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Bingo!

Don't she bang on eh?

Anyone really listening?

Nah.

Fact is, even if she is 100% right, what we going to do?

That's right, feck all. :D

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:21 pm

No Smoking wrote:Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?


Ths is how it all started

1) If you we're a cardiff fan would it matter if tan were a true billionaire, the guy is undeniably wealthy. Mute point

2) Did you buy your house with cash or was it a crippling loan, what are the alternatives? Go into administration, drop out of league football. If you were a cardiff fan would you want that?

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:21 pm

SBF1 wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Bingo!

Don't she bang on eh?

absolutely

Anyone really listening?

seems that way


Fact is, even if she is 100% right, what we going to do?

get liquidated.

That's right, feck all. :D

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:22 pm

No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:Absolutely. Real fan see.


Prove it


Why?


Why not?

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:24 pm

rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?


Ths is how it all started

1) If you we're a cardiff fan would it matter if tan were a true billionaire, the guy is undeniably wealthy. Mute point

he is wealthy yes, unfortunately for us he hasn't assigned all of his wealth into the name of Cardiff city :lol: any money he decides to put into the club he has contacts drawn up in the manner that we owe him every penny back plus 7%. It wouldn't matter if he was a gazillionaire and that's what city fans need to realise.

2) Did you buy your house with cash or was it a crippling loan, what are the alternatives? Go into administration, drop out of league football. If you were a cardiff fan would you want that?

i bought my house via a mortgage that I could afford. Cardiff have borrowed money they can't afford to pay back. The result of that is liquidation, ceasing to trade, not existing anymore. If we went into administration it would mean we would have a ropey team in the championship.

Of course I'd prefer administration you plum.


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Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:25 pm

No Smoking wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. :ayatollah:



whats a real fan whats a sell out?? myself dont care about badge /shirt only name cardiff city! so what does that make me??? honest anser plse


A sellout is a person that only wants to see local premier league football and fill their autograph books knowing that it will kill the club, but it's a sacrifice they are willing to take.... While throwing in the clubs historic colours and badge to boot.

A real fan is one that takes a stand and the club always comes first over anything, including premiership football. A real fan would rather walk on hot coals rather than give away our badge and colours for a bit of cash.


I would prefer to see my team play in blue and keep the bluebird, but i,m prepared to go with the investment to see where it takes us, (hopefully debt to equity) so are you telling me that i'm a sellout?????

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:27 pm

rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:Absolutely. Real fan see.


Prove it


Why?


Why not?


Have you EVER had anything positive to say about CCFC?

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:27 pm

No Smoking wrote:
SBF1 wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Bingo!

Don't she bang on eh?

absolutely

Nauseously

Anyone really listening?

seems that way

The word really is the main word.


Fact is, even if she is 100% right, what we going to do?

get liquidated.

I meant us as fans

See below


That's right, feck all. :D

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:27 pm

cityone wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Indeed.

And I'll always post regarding my club and you bet your bottom dollar (us or australian, I'm not bothered) that I'm obsessed. A shame we don't have more real fans out there instead of sellouts. :ayatollah:



whats a real fan whats a sell out?? myself dont care about badge /shirt only name cardiff city! so what does that make me??? honest anser plse


A sellout is a person that only wants to see local premier league football and fill their autograph books knowing that it will kill the club, but it's a sacrifice they are willing to take.... While throwing in the clubs historic colours and badge to boot.

A real fan is one that takes a stand and the club always comes first over anything, including premiership football. A real fan would rather walk on hot coals rather than give away our badge and colours for a bit of cash.


I would prefer to see my team play in blue and keep the bluebird, but i,m prepared to go with the investment to see where it takes us, (hopefully debt to equity) so are you telling me that i'm a sellout?????


Absolutely a sell out.

First debt to equity doesn't exist, not to the tune of the debt we are in now.

Secondly even if tan decides to magically waive the £100m debt we are still losing £20m a year and will be back in the same position in 4 to 5 seasons time.

The loans (more accurate word than investment as for some reason football fans see investment as cash gifts) are only leading us to our death and any financial advisor will tell you the same.

Re: new investers ??

Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:28 pm

SBF1 wrote:
No Smoking wrote:
SBF1 wrote:
rb1976 wrote:I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind) :ayatollah:


Bingo!

Don't she bang on eh?

absolutely

Nauseously

Anyone really listening?

seems that way

The word really is the main word.


Fact is, even if she is 100% right, what we going to do?

get liquidated.

I meant us as fans

in that case I guess go and watch the rugby on a Saturday instead?

See below


That's right, feck all. :D