Does the bluebird really matter?

There must be lot's of reasons why us loyal City fans could stop going, they'll have empty stadiums soon.

It definitely does matter to me. If it goes it will make us a bigger joke to other clubs. I really hope it isn't true, if it is I'll consider to stop supporting the club.

Re-read the opening post,its purely rumours at the moment.Some have an element of truth behind them,some don't. With this one we'll have to wait and see.

I did say 'If' lol. The number one word in this thread haha

Lots of rumours,that may or may not be true, that the bluebird will be consigned to history next season.

Would it bother you if this does indeed turn out to be true?

f*cking right it matters. we are the bluebirds and should be in blue!

Change of tactic hey, fighting a losing battle with the red, so let's have a what if battle.

No. I have lost the battle about the colour and tbh I think I'll lose the 'battle' for the bluebird too

Genuinely interested in peoples opinions on it though.

You are right it is a 'what if.' As a matter of interest 'if' it was to fall by the wayside next season would it be a matter of concern to you? Not fishing and I agree it's purely hypothetical but I am genuinely interested in your feelings on it because we all have different emotions about various parts of the club's identity.

Thanks

Gwyn i see once again you aint answered the question and avoiding it with all yr crap.
u really do not care do u?

Gwyn has called himself a Cardiff City whore before now and in a strange way,whilst I disagree with the guy completely, I respect his honesty.

However,despite him admitting that he has little time for colours/badges and the like,I am sure that he also has a tipping point,even if he seems very loathe to admit it...Personally,the colour was mine but I could have lived with the beermat badge. We are all different I guess.

It definitely does matter to me. If it goes it will make us a bigger joke to other clubs. I really hope it isn't true, if it is I'll consider to stop supporting the club.

Re-read the opening post,its purely rumours at the moment.Some have an element of truth behind them,some don't. With this one we'll have to wait and see.

I did say 'If' lol. The number one word in this thread haha

fair enough

Change of tactic hey, fighting a losing battle with the red, so let's have a what if battle.

No. I have lost the battle about the colour and tbh I think I'll lose the 'battle' for the bluebird too

Genuinely interested in peoples opinions on it though.

You are right it is a 'what if.' As a matter of interest 'if' it was to fall by the wayside next season would it be a matter of concern to you? Not fishing and I agree it's purely hypothetical but I am genuinely interested in your feelings on it because we all have different emotions about various parts of the club's identity.

Thanks

Gwyn i see once again you aint answered the question and avoiding it with all yr crap.
u really do not care do u?

What question, about burying people, how many times do you need the same f*cking answer.

I think the question he's on about is whether you have a tipping point when it comes to supporting the City. For example a name change/location change etc. Would either of those cause you to question your support?

The owners have said we will always be the bluebirds. If they Lie again I think I would become very "active" in protests. I would then be more willing to demonstrate to maximum effect.
We are the bluebirds always have been. This decision if true could finally turn opinion in our favour and to a degree could be a massive own goal by Tan .

Do you have a tipping point for the love of your children?

If one of them became a smack head, would you still love them, ?

If one of them murdered someone, would you still love them, ?

If one of them became a burgular, would you still love them,?

What would you child need to do, to stop you loving them, that's an analogy to my love for the club, I hope I never have to think about tipping points, I honestly don't know if I have one, and like my children, my love for my club is unconditional.

Why worry about tipping points, it just seems so negative, do you look at your child and pat them on the head thinking to yourself, I love you soo much, but if you murder someone, i will stop loving you?

I am the only one who finds it strange that people profess to love the club so much, but spend a lot of time wondering what the club would have to do to stop them loving it, it just all seems a bit strange to me.

Do you have a tipping point for the love of your children?

If one of them became a smack head, would you still love them, ?

If one of them murdered someone, would you still love them, ?

If one of them became a burgular, would you still love them,?

What would you child need to do, to stop you loving them, that's an analogy to my love for the club, I hope I never have to think about tipping points, I honestly don't know if I have one, and like my children, my love for my club is unconditional.

Why worry about tipping points, it just seems so negative, do you look at your child and pat them on the head thinking to yourself, I love you soo much, but if you murder someone, i will stop loving you?

I am the only one who finds it strange that people profess to love the club so much, but spend a lot of time wondering what the club would have to do to stop them loving it, it just all seems a bit strange to me.

You make some interesting points. I suppose it was brought into sharper focus for me as my protest against the rebrand was to get a refund after being a ST holder for many years.Not much of a protest,granted but it was instinctive,automatic and my way of demonstrating my very personal feelings of defiance at what Tan has done to the club. I do not expect you to understand that as we view the entire situation very differently.

I STILL love the club and very much want it to survive and prosper but I would like the club to still retain a large semblance of what made it 'Cardiff City' .We could argue all day over what it's authentic identity is but for me it was tied in very much with the blue home shirt and to a lesser degree the bluebird and the badge. I love the history of the club and am unashamedly sentimental and nostalgic about the clubs past,I am also very keen that the club has a future but things like the blue home shirt and the bluebird should,in my opinion,be a legacy.

Lets remember who started this rumour.

The bitter West Ham fan.

Remember, Vincent Tan is still here! THATS the most important thing he got wrong.

The new colour etc was just ONE correct guess amongst a bitter broken tirade against
a regime that fucked him off.

I have gone along with the change reluctantly. In time, we may well say "do you know
what, Tan was right about the Blue kit, we were f*cking useless for years in Blue!"...

But next season if the Bluebird is gone from the badge, i will be gone from the support base....

Until Tan is gone from the Club.

Because I wont go anywhere where I feel disrespected and slighted, and for him to get rid
of the Bluebird would be him doing just that!!!

Lets be completely honest here its already gone.

Tan dont give a f**k about what the fans think, its death of many cuts,just depends when your love of the club dies.

Lets remember who started this rumour.

The bitter West Ham fan.

Remember, Vincent Tan is still here! THATS the most important thing he got wrong.

The new colour etc was just ONE correct guess amongst a bitter broken tirade against
a regime that fucked him off.

I have gone along with the change reluctantly. In time, we may well say "do you know
what, Tan was right about the Blue kit, we were f*cking useless for years in Blue!"...

But next season if the Bluebird is gone from the badge, i will be gone from the support base....

Until Tan is gone from the Club.

Because I wont go anywhere where I feel disrespected and slighted, and for him to get rid
of the Bluebird would be him doing just that!!!

Dave
Whether you like him or hate him one thing for sure, he knew of the re-brand idea nearly a year before it happened. He is in the know more so than any on here. How do i know the above ? he told me! "Chief they have plans for your Club and you ain't gonna like it !!" I put it down to him being bitter, but when the re brand happened i knew that wasn't the case. But i do know that Tan wanted to take the re brand much further than he has and it only down to the Rules Tan has not done so.
I personally don't have a problem with Daya we have had our spats,Banter,debates and i think this board is better for him being on here than not.

"Plans for your club and you aint gonna like it"

Hardly Nostradamus is he. You can make a statement like that and attatch it to anything negative that may happen in the future.

He should get a fortune telling tent down Barry Island hes wasted in pine.

"Plans for your club and you aint gonna like it"

Hardly Nostradamus is he. You can make a statement like that and attatch it to anything negative that may happen in the future.

He should get a fortune telling tent down Barry Island hes wasted in pine.

Over the years Polo you get to know who to listen to and who not to. But that is my view and my choice which is not the same as you.

Does the bluebird matter? While we have it
Does the shirt colour matter? It did for the first 34 years I supported the team but current situation suggests not for most.
Does the name matter? Currently
Does the venue matter? Sure, if pissing in the rain, wondering when the rusty roof is going to come down on your head and standing on cold concrete leaning against a rusty, blue, goal-shaped bar bothers you.
Does the team you're watching your team play against matter? 21,000 v Man City in '94 when the same Cardiff players played against Leyton Orient, Port Vale etc would suggest so
Does the league your watching your team playing in matter? Increased attendances since the late 80s/90s would suggest so.
Do the players matter? Jason Perry v Jeff Chandler would suggest so, however Man City example above would suggest not.
Does it matter who you stand next to at a match?

i think if you look at history and everyone bangs on thats all we ever had its actually about equal how many years we have had a bluebird on the shirt one season in 59 then not again until 69 and obviously continous from there

If you look at the history you will realise that no club played with a badge on their shirt in the early to mid 1900's, except if a team got to a cup final and then the 2 teams in the cup final had a badge on their shirts for that special occasion. It is said we were initially known as the The City or the Citizens, BEFORE we decided on the proper nickname of the Bluebirds, which was around 1911 I believe. Our 1927 cup final badge had the coat of arms of the city as the emblem. However, from the 1960's onwards when badges were being continuously worn on our shirts, our emblem was always the Bluebird. Our first proper nickname back in 1911 was the Bluebirds and we have always been the Bluebirds until now. I feel the majority of our identity has been taken away, but if our Bluebird is taken away completely, we will then have completely lost our identity.

I hate seeing so many fans unhappy and I think the rebrand will only kick in next year with significant reduced attendances should we fail to get promoted.
Me , personally the colour and logo is not important. What counts is we still have a football team with the name "Cardiff City" are playing in Cardiff.

Course it matters if the Bluebird matters cause its been on cress for between 100 to 118 years the Malaysians or no one else can take the bluebird