Plaid Cymru

Your a bore dick. you aint got an answer cause your deluded
call it a night baby boy

Your a bore dick. you aint got an answer cause your deluded
call it a night baby boy

Yea I though the same about him as well……..bring old fart.

Nos da twypsin mawr!

I'm learning the language and proud of it. Its growing and as for the 'English Nazi's' who always discourage the language as they ARE TOO LAZY TO LEARN IT………they're dinosaurs and in the grand scheme of things quite irrelevant.

Always voted for Plaid as they are the only welsh political party and certainly the only one with our interests at heart. As for the 'we've always voted labour' brigade…….don't get me started on these idiots. Roll on full Independence.

English Nazis? By f**k i'm Welsh and proud your the one wanting to rid Wales of all English people, your racist posts on here make me laugh, your wife must have been playing away with Dave the Englishmen as that's the only reason you could be so bitter towards a group of people.

All those crying out for independence can never answer the question "How will we pay for it all"? The silence is deafening. Cries of "WE HAVE WATER WE CAN SELL!!1!" time for a reality check. But Wales is ripe for independence isn't it? It's not as if we have one of the largest percentage of people working in the public sector or the largest amount of jobless, dole bums but lets not let decent facts get in the way of a good arguement. Most on here do not realise England has SUBSIDISED us for years and years. That's not bowing down to them that's me being a REALIST and deep down the nationalists f*cking know it.

* IGNORE* The village idiot is back.

Never left you odious toad.

Your a bore dick. you aint got an answer cause your deluded
call it a night baby boy

Yea I though the same about him as well……..bring old fart.

Nos da twypsin mawr!

Tit

* IGNORE * very low IQ alert is back!!

Your a bore dick. you aint got an answer cause your deluded
call it a night baby boy

Yea I though the same about him as well……..bring old fart.

Nos da twypsin mawr!

Tit

How constructive and very boring……….Nos da eto yr twypsin mawr iawn.

Don't be too harsh on yourself.

* IGNORE * very low IQ alert is back!!

Yet iv'e put forward many many reasons why Wales will not be able to go it alone, you on the other hand have spouted nothing but vile anti English vitriol. Strange little man.

* IGNORE * very low IQ alert is back!!

Yet iv'e put forward many many reasons why Wales will not be able to go it alone, you on the other hand have spouted nothing but vile anti English vitriol. Strange little man.

*IGNORE*


oh and stop PM- in me you old pervert.

* IGNORE * very low IQ alert is back!!

Yet iv'e put forward many many reasons why Wales will not be able to go it alone, you on the other hand have spouted nothing but vile anti English vitriol. Strange little man.

*IGNORE*


oh and stop PM- in me you old pervert.

I have not once PMed you, not once. I gather Annis/Owain can read PMs and they can confirm this. Embarrassing sad little man, is wifey shagging an Englishman? Pity.

Keep ignoring me fella.

Stop speaking shit then. wales will never govern itself end of, we have not got the industry for a start. The language is all nationalists bang on about. bring something to the table to show that wales could survive by itself

I haven't said anything on this thread about Welsh independance or anything political at all actually. All I have said is that the Welsh language is the core of who we are today and that being so dismissive of it is offensive and very disrespectful to our ancestors the current generations and our own country.

I'll say it again. I love the fact I can speak Welsh and that my non-Welsh speaking parents decided to send me to Welsh school. I'm rightly proud that I can speak my native tongue. It doesn't make me a better person than anybody who is Welsh and can't speak it. But it definately doesn't make me worse.

There is no way Wales can survive as an independent nation. The only way it ever could was if it became a massive manufacturer of something valuable. Whilst that would put people in jobs and create industry it's not going to happen anytime soon because the initial money to invest isn't there. The only way of investing would be to go into mass amount of debt as well which is not good in short term and would see people struggle.

The simple answer is it would be a gamble and there is no way they will take a gamble which could effect people short term drastically for the sake of long term. Parties don't care about long term, they care about long enough to stay in power and keep their pay cheque coming in.

If Plaid did ever get into overall power they would realise that half of the stuff they come up with isn't feasible and would have devastating short term effects.

What people dont understand here is that Wales WILL achieve a pretty substantial
form of self-determination over the next twenty years. Its nailed on. London don't
want Wales any more. The tories DEFINITELY don't, we are a massive disadvantage
to them come election time. Wales has nothing left. The Industrial revolution
was fuelled with Welsh coal and steel and water. Back then, Wales was hugely
important in terms of her worth to the 'Union'

Now we're all dried up, f**k all left to give. England is looking for a way to sever the
ties. Suddenly, after years of them draining OUR resources, we are becoming a drain on theirs!!

I'm a Nationalist and even I could see that the Welsh Assembly was a set-up.
Hardly anyone in Wales bothered to vote (something like 27%)... and of those, Wales
voted against it once, and there was a recount. The English Parliament engineered that
result. FACT

So to all the "Rule Brittania - we are all one" brigade.........

You've been had. Mark my words

It will be a bit like all the lads knocking for you every morning cos your the only one with a
decent football. They pat you on the back "your one of us you are mate"

Then the ball bursts....

...and the lads stop calling

What people dont understand here is that Wales WILL achieve a pretty substantial
form of self-determination over the next twenty years. Its nailed on. London don't
want Wales any more. The tories DEFINITELY don't, we are a massive disadvantage
to them come election time. Wales has nothing left. The Industrial revolution
was fuelled with Welsh coal and steel and water. Back then, Wales was hugely
important in terms of her worth to the 'Union'

Now we're all dried up, f**k all left to give. England is looking for a way to sever the
ties. Suddenly, after years of them draining OUR resources, we are becoming a drain on theirs!!

I'm a Nationalist and even I could see that the Welsh Assembly was a set-up.
Hardly anyone in Wales bothered to vote (something like 27%)... and of those, Wales
voted against it once, and there was a recount. The English Parliament engineered that
result. FACT

So to all the "Rule Brittania - we are all one" brigade.........

You've been had. Mark my words

It will be a bit like all the lads knocking for you every morning cos your the only one with a
decent football. They pat you on the back "your one of us you are mate"

Then the ball bursts....

...and the lads stop calling

oh dear.............whats that smell?

Yeah London dont want Wales because they pay morein than they get out of us. my issue is the welsh language activists and nationalistis think because in my opinion i think the language is a drain on wales, that i should move to england

Rubbish, im proud to be Welsh but we are better off as part of the UK and lets save some money on all the extra paper we have to use each year and the bigger rd signs etc and come up with something that can put Wales as a world class leader at something, cause the language will get us no where

Yeah London dont want Wales because they pay morein than they get out of us. my issue is the welsh language activists and nationalistis think because in my opinion i think the language is a drain on wales, that i should move to england

Rubbish, im proud to be Welsh but we are better off as part of the UK and lets save some money on all the extra paper we have to use each year and the bigger rd signs etc and come up with something that can put Wales as a world class leader at something, cause the language will get us no where

The language barely costs anything though, there are far better and less controversial ways to save money in reality.

Yeah London dont want Wales because they pay morein than they get out of us. my issue is the welsh language activists and nationalistis think because in my opinion i think the language is a drain on wales, that i should move to england

Rubbish, im proud to be Welsh but we are better off as part of the UK and lets save some money on all the extra paper we have to use each year and the bigger rd signs etc and come up with something that can put Wales as a world class leader at something, cause the language will get us no where

The language barely costs anything though, there are far better and less controversial ways to save money in reality.

Fair comment, but how can Wales survive without help

Yeah London dont want Wales because they pay morein than they get out of us. my issue is the welsh language activists and nationalistis think because in my opinion i think the language is a drain on wales, that i should move to england

Rubbish, im proud to be Welsh but we are better off as part of the UK and lets save some money on all the extra paper we have to use each year and the bigger rd signs etc and come up with something that can put Wales as a world class leader at something, cause the language will get us no where

The language barely costs anything though, there are far better and less controversial ways to save money in reality.

Fair comment, but how can Wales survive without help

We can't, we should stay as part of the UK but still promote our national identity (history, culture etc)

Yeah London dont want Wales because they pay morein than they get out of us. my issue is the welsh language activists and nationalistis think because in my opinion i think the language is a drain on wales, that i should move to england

Rubbish, im proud to be Welsh but we are better off as part of the UK and lets save some money on all the extra paper we have to use each year and the bigger rd signs etc and come up with something that can put Wales as a world class leader at something, cause the language will get us no where

Unbelievable this post is really.

Are you really saying to over 600,000 of your fellow Welsh people that they should
knock their language on the head???

Just because you cant speak it?

the language is actually good for tourism. There's a positive for you. People from the
USA and Europe are fascinated by old languages. Guess what...the English tourists
love it too (apart from the well worn "they were talking English til I walked in" line)..

Strange that the only REALLY negative vibes about the language come from Welsh people

I dont get it.

One thing for sure though...

The language is going nowhere. The ancient English tactic of 'divide and rule' may have
worked on you. But the majority of Welsh people have seen through it

As an Yorkshire/englishmen I'm quite surprised at some of the views on this thread regarding the welsh language. I always thought most Welsh people were pretty proud of it.

To be honest, I see no harm in protecting it as long as it's not used as an elite way of excluding people who can't speak it.

As for Plaid Cymru, they don;t seem to be as successful as SNP but I do wonder what both parties would do if Wales/Scotland got independence, there'd be no point in them any more. They also both split the centre-left vote at westminster elections.

As an Yorkshire/englishmen I'm quite surprised at some of the views on this thread regarding the welsh language. I always thought most Welsh people were pretty proud of it.

To be honest, I see no harm in protecting it as long as it's not used as an elite way of excluding people who can't speak it.

As for Plaid Cymru, they don;t seem to be as successful as SNP but I do wonder what both parties would do if Wales/Scotland got independence, there'd be no point in them any more. They also both split the centre-left vote at westminster elections.

Most people are proud of it mate.

As I said in my post, old Longshanks had a devious plan to finally conquer Wales.

Divide and rule.

Still alive and working today with some.

Plaid are a posh 'taffia' type party who I wouldnt want in power (and im a Nationalist)
but regards the Welsh Language, the most they would do to promote it is to make sure
all kids are taught 'rudimentary' Welsh in junior school. Kids are like sponges at that age
and would soak it up. I got good English mates who have 'squatted' in Wales ...
They are all chuffed to f**k when their little kids get home from school saying 'bore da'
and little simple stuff like that.

Strange race us Welsh, only happy when we're fighting ourselves

What is the point in investing so much money in Welsh teachers and lessons at school? Our education system needs a modern kick up the backside and we should be investing in things for the future.

Its lovely to hear the Welsh language but parents can teach their kids it if they want them to know it.

What is the point in investing so much money in Welsh teachers and lessons at school? Our education system needs a modern kick up the backside and we should be investing in things for the future.

Its lovely to hear the Welsh language but parents can teach their kids it if they want them to know it.

"Investing so much money". Got a rough figure there mate?

"Parents can teach their kids". How the f**k can non-welsh speakers teach their kids?

Idiotic post.

As an Yorkshire/englishmen I'm quite surprised at some of the views on this thread regarding the welsh language. I always thought most Welsh people were pretty proud of it.

To be honest, I see no harm in protecting it as long as it's not used as an elite way of excluding people who can't speak it.

As for Plaid Cymru, they don;t seem to be as successful as SNP but I do wonder what both parties would do if Wales/Scotland got independence, there'd be no point in them any more. They also both split the centre-left vote at westminster elections.

I am proud of my Welsh heritage but the language is all to often used as a tool to measure others "Welshness".

Wales could survive as an independent nation, most of its funding already comes from the EU.

anyhow, Welsh people should have a knowledge in the Welsh language. It is a part of your heritage and culture, and just because very few use it nowadays, there's no reason why one should forget about it.

Wales could survive as an independent nation, most of its funding already comes from the EU.

anyhow, Welsh people should have a knowledge in the Welsh language. It is a part of your heritage and culture, and just because very few use it nowadays, there's no reason why one should forget about it.

We don't get as much or no funding at all from the EU due to Romania being in a worse state than us.

As an Yorkshire/englishmen I'm quite surprised at some of the views on this thread regarding the welsh language. I always thought most Welsh people were pretty proud of it.

To be honest, I see no harm in protecting it as long as it's not used as an elite way of excluding people who can't speak it.

As for Plaid Cymru, they don;t seem to be as successful as SNP but I do wonder what both parties would do if Wales/Scotland got independence, there'd be no point in them any more. They also both split the centre-left vote at westminster elections.

I am proud of my Welsh heritage but the language is all to often used as a tool to measure others "Welshness".

By whom? I'm Welsh speaking and do not think for one second I'm Welsher
than anyone else. Wales is a state of mind not a language.

YOUR state of mind smacks of someone with a complex.

What is the point in investing so much money in Welsh teachers and lessons at school? Our education system needs a modern kick up the backside and we should be investing in things for the future.

Its lovely to hear the Welsh language but parents can teach their kids it if they want them to know it.

Any idea how much it costs to teach kids Latin??

What use is Latin in a modern Wales.

Whether the Anti-Welsh Language Brigade like to admit it or not...
Welsh IS an advantage for getting top jobs in Wales now.

If the language actually bugs people.... move!... cos the language never will!!

YMA O HYD

What is the point in investing so much money in Welsh teachers and lessons at school? Our education system needs a modern kick up the backside and we should be investing in things for the future.

Its lovely to hear the Welsh language but parents can teach their kids it if they want them to know it.

Any idea how much it costs to teach kids Latin??

What use is Latin in a modern Wales.

Whether the Anti-Welsh Language Brigade like to admit it or not...
Welsh IS an advantage for getting top jobs in Wales now.

If the language actually bugs people.... move!... cos the language never will!!

YMA O HYD

I was looking at jobs in the Welsh Assembly yesterday, solicitor training contracts to be exact. It says there are two vacancies for non-welsh speakers, and the rest are for those with some knowledge of the language. Apparently it's commonly used throughout the offices and in the general working environment, so it clearly holds some value with certain employers in Wales.

What people dont understand here is that Wales WILL achieve a pretty substantial
form of self-determination over the next twenty years. Its nailed on. London don't
want Wales any more. The tories DEFINITELY don't, we are a massive disadvantage
to them come election time. Wales has nothing left. The Industrial revolution
was fuelled with Welsh coal and steel and water. Back then, Wales was hugely
important in terms of her worth to the 'Union'

Now we're all dried up, f**k all left to give. England is looking for a way to sever the
ties. Suddenly, after years of them draining OUR resources, we are becoming a drain on theirs!!

I'm a Nationalist and even I could see that the Welsh Assembly was a set-up.
Hardly anyone in Wales bothered to vote (something like 27%)... and of those, Wales
voted against it once, and there was a recount. The English Parliament engineered that
result. FACT

So to all the "Rule Brittania - we are all one" brigade.........

You've been had. Mark my words

It will be a bit like all the lads knocking for you every morning cos your the only one with a
decent football. They pat you on the back "your one of us you are mate"

Then the ball bursts....

...and the lads stop calling

Agree taffyapple, the english establishment have robbed & pillaged Wales of its natural resources & the profits of these have not been re-invested in Wales, our industry created the empire.

It amazes me that these english tourists complain about Welsh speakers using our own language in our own country.

They should open their ears & walk down any high street in any english town or city & hear a multitude of foreign languages being spoken that's why they are all packing up & moving away from their cities to Wales to live.

I have nothing against the english but examples of this odious character do make me angry

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... -31868277/

Wales could survive as an independent nation, most of its funding already comes from the EU.

anyhow, Welsh people should have a knowledge in the Welsh language. It is a part of your heritage and culture, and just because very few use it nowadays, there's no reason why one should forget about it.

We don't get as much or no funding at all from the EU due to Romania being in a worse state than us.

Rubbish! There are still many parts of Wales receiving European aid because we are one of the poorest regions in Europe (Valleys and areas in north and west Wales, and that's including Romania! The problem is that Westminster refuse to match fund this money and because of this we can't get out of poverty!