HOW CAN ANYONE FEEL NEGATIVE

gwyn, this is not a nasty reply, and i respect your opinion, BUT. in 10 years time and we are still where we are. is your opinion still going to be the same? or are you thinking . we will be in the prem in 1 or 2 years?

I'd love to be there as most of us would, but to be honest I have really enjoyed myself the last few years. four visits to Wembley, exciting ends to all the seasons we been involved in and a great standard of football.

The stadium and facilities are far more enjoyable and improving by the season.

I am content and as long as the club is sustainable and we don't have the sword of Damocles hanging over us all the time, I will continue to be content..

Take time out to smell the roses, coz they will wither and die without you noticing they were there otherwise, believe it r not, these are the good times.

gwyn thats fair enough, but, i think fans will take the change for success, a premier team , finishing mid table , not struggling etc, if we dont improve much, then this rebranding, would. in many fans eyes be a waste of time?

gwyn thats fair enough, but, i think fans will take the change for success, a premier team , finishing mid table , not struggling etc, if we dont improve much, then this rebranding, would. in many fans eyes be a waste of time?

I think most of us will take it for the stability, there weren't much choice

Not trying to be a clever tw*t now, coz I genuinely feel sorry for people who can't accept the changes that we have accepted at a cost to all of us.

I don't know any real fan who wanted to change colours or is happy to change colours, but I do know thousands of fans who will reluctantly do it for the chance of finally getting the investment and backing that all clubs need to get to the top, and us Cardiff fans deserve to be at the top coz we haven't had much to celebrate and we have a lot of crap to put up with on and off the pitch over the last few decades. We have earned that right to say, we have served our time, and now is our time.

We no longer want to be known as the big club, with a huge fans base, that are well known for nothing other than having the maddest and some times most frightening fans in the country, sometimes mistakenly because we haven't been treated well, but also if we are honest because we had nothing going for us on the pitch, so fighting and causing chaos became the attraction for many rather than the football, which is now the case.

We have moved on and many of the culprits have grown up and moved with the times to what some people call modern football, do they love the club less than they did, No, I don't think so, if anything they love the club more, because we now more than ever feel part of the club and we feel responsible and want the club to succeed.

Some still miss being a fence thickness away from intimidating away fans and making sure they are so scared they never come to our stadium again, others realise those days are gone.

To me the colour shirt was our flag to rally behind, but we simply have a new colour flag, we are the same fans, the same club, we haven't lost our history, how can we lose our history as long as we stay in business unlike rangers who's history is now put in a box and shelved away. They have to start again from zero, is that what we want over the sake of a colour.

The Malaysian's didn't come into rescue us, they didn't come in because they were charitable, they came in because they could see the potential and they had the clout to fulfill that potential with a view to making a big profit, anything wrong with that, not in my eyes, just sadness that no Welsh or even British business or investor could have seen it for themselves.

When they first came in I was glad of their investment because we were in a real mess, part of me was concerned thinking why have they come here, are they out to screw us over in some way.

But I have bought into them because they have earned that trust, they saved us and they have long term plans, the academy, the training ground, the increase to stadium capacity, the team investment, does this look like people out to asset strip us , or make us successful with a view to making a profit from us, and good luck to them if they do.

Could they f**k us, course they could, but would be any worse off than we were when they cam in, I very much doubt it, so let's give them a chance and see where we get.

You almost managed to sound magnanimous there.

Perhaps those that see red shirts and that appalling badge feel sorry for you and other sell-outs too?

We don't deserve to be the top of anything, we are no more deserving of success than anyone else, and while some are happy to be the laughing stock of the country, others are not. Whilst a few begrudgingly accept the changes, many feel alienated by a club now owned by people who claim to respect traditions and value honour, yet made sweeping changes without the consultation of the people that matter the most, the lifeblood of this great club of ours, the people who pay hard-earned money to watch their club. Instead, the considerations of those on the other side of the planet are put before ours.

That's why I will never wear red and will always look down on those that do.

This post is just arrogant, intellectual grandstanding, coupled with empty pseudo-socialist sloganeering.

You have no right to judge anyone fella.

I'm quite an educated chap, but you going to have to translate that for the majority of our fans (actually it's for me, coz i don't understand what the f**k you are on about) sounds really good though even if we can't understand it.

Sorry Gwyn, not normally one to swallow a dictionary, it was a knee jerk response to a combination of Skc... (On my phone so hard to see poster's name sorry) statement that he will look down on anyone wearing red. Got me goat a little and the 'Totalitarian' quote in his signature then irritated me.

For the record I agree massively with the sentiment in your OP.

" intellectual grandstanding" my arse.. Brilliant Post Gwyn Boyo..forward march!

Hi mate just to clarify I wasnt referring to Gwyns post at all. I agree with you it was a great post.

" intellectual grandstanding" my arse.. Brilliant Post Gwyn Boyo..forward march!

Hi mate just to clarify I wasnt referring to Gwyns post at all. I agree with you it was a great post.

No probs mate, keep the faith.

Everyone`s been arguing about this every day for months, everyone has a view support is split
there is always some f*cking thing happening when it come to Cardiff City - going bust, ripped off, relegations, promotion`s
, hooligans, Cup finals , f*cking up the play-offs year after year, hating Jacks don`t you just love it ?
"your a f*cking RED your a f*cking BLUE never boring typical Cardiff City

New season starts Friday - time to UNITE time to support the City RED or BLUE

"Took something perfect, and painted it red..."

What a disgusting thread to read back on

well ,well ,well . It didn't work out did it

said from the start it was goin to be bad but proud we got our colours back and eventually a proper badge with a BIG fat bluebird on it !!!

Is this the same gwyn that pledged to protest against tan if the debt was not turned to equity and then changed his mind or is this an attempt to claw back some credibility for making a tit of oneself during the recent meeting with the fans down the CCS?

Is this the same gwyn that pledged to protest against tan if the debt was not turned to equity and then changed his mind or is this an attempt to claw back some credibility for making a tit of oneself during the recent meeting with the fans down the CCS?

I think Gwyn comes in for unfair stick. To me he is a true supporter who wanted the club initially just to survive and hopefully prosper as a result of the rebrand. Some on here conveniently forget HMRC interest in our affairs which without Tan would have reached a logical conclusion. But never mind, thanks to the rebrand reversal we shall shortly know where our future lies. Personally, I don't think we have one.

Is this the same gwyn that pledged to protest against tan if the debt was not turned to equity and then changed his mind or is this an attempt to claw back some credibility for making a tit of oneself during the recent meeting with the fans down the CCS?

I think Gwyn comes in for unfair stick. To me he is a true supporter who wanted the club initially just to survive and hopefully prosper as a result of the rebrand. Some on here conveniently forget HMRC interest in our affairs which without Tan would have reached a logical conclusion. But never mind, thanks to the rebrand reversal we shall shortly know where our future lies. Personally, I don't think we have one.

I can see that it's not only colour that you are are blinded by.