Why do Welsh people seem scared of going self employed..?

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Hes conveniently forgetting as a family you can get much more than 900 a month in benefits

do you..? thought it was about £50 per week

£52 a week is the minimum amount. It then increases depending on your living costs such as rent, morgage, children

Your example isnt even proper self employed your relying on what is for want of a better word someonelse to employ you.

more and more companies are taking on self employed people these days because of the costs of taking people on.

Do you mean subbies?

Thats been going on for f*cking years you whopper

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Hes conveniently forgetting as a family you can get much more than 900 a month in benefits

do you..? thought it was about £50 per week

Who the f**k do you think pays their rent? The easter bunny?

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Hes conveniently forgetting as a family you can get much more than 900 a month in benefits

do you..? thought it was about £50 per week

Who the f**k do you think pays their rent? The easter bunny?

Ive given up with him polo after the 1st post i put in this thread and his first reply done me tbh, as for this 50£ a week for familys with 2-3 kids well ive seen it f*cking all now whats that comming over the hill OH LOOK ITS AN ARMY OF £40 A DAY SELF EMPLOYED WINDOW CLEANERS . i used to think he was ok and people picking on him on here but this thread finshed me off with trying to see both sides of a story as ive seen it for myself with many people

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Your example isnt even proper self employed your relying on what is for want of a better word someonelse to employ you.

more and more companies are taking on self employed people these days because of the costs of taking people on.

Do you mean subbies?

Thats been going on for f*cking years you whopper

sorry but aren't subbies are also self employed

He can just never hold his hand when hes wrong mun.

He can just never hold his hand when hes wrong mun.

Clearly not, i thought he was ok and people are always gangbanging his threads but when you see a thread about subbing and you have been there yourself along with many others over the years as a subbie it makes me wonder what planet adam is on with some of the pure rubbish he is speaking of about being self employed and its bottom less pitt of money to be made for everyone otherwise there classed as lazy as he says

He can just never hold his hand when hes wrong mun.

Clearly not, i thought he was ok and people are always gangbanging his threads but when you see a thread about subbing and you have been there yourself along with many others over the years as a subbie it makes me wonder what planet adam is on with some of the pure rubbish he is speaking of about being self employed and its bottom less pitt of money to be made for everyone otherwise there classed as lazy as he says

The only way what he is saying works is as youve already said - fiddling.

But then they risk losing their benefits.

He can just never hold his hand when hes wrong mun.

Clearly not, i thought he was ok and people are always gangbanging his threads but when you see a thread about subbing and you have been there yourself along with many others over the years as a subbie it makes me wonder what planet adam is on with some of the pure rubbish he is speaking of about being self employed and its bottom less pitt of money to be made for everyone otherwise there classed as lazy as he says

The only way what he is saying works is as youve already said - fiddling.

But then they risk losing their benefits.

Yep but he seems to think anybody can be self employed and earn 800£ a month window cleaning and live a happy life as a family, when theres no incentive there for some familys in certain circumstances to work weather that be the jobs out there or the money they need to cover outgoings. The guys still in the 90s with £50 a week supporting most familys clearly as no idiot works for 40£ a day subbing unless there 17 live at home with mum and dad have no kids or outgoings as such i would get that then. No doubt he will slink off from this thread now

How much do stand up comedians earn.

I was self employed for over twenty years, but I had skilled profession and the qualifications to go with it, I also was lucky to work in an area where there was a lack of qualified people to cover the work nationally, but it did change later on.

I was lucky and I earnt really good money and went on to employ seven other people to work for me, and it was quite a successful business, but and it's a big BUT.

When you are self employed, there is no holiday pay, there is no sickness pay, if you lose your health your on your own.
Also I paid tax at the highest level, if I saved money then I was also taxed on the savings, when I employed people I had to pay employers tax plus National insurance, I had to pay and hire my own accountant, a solicitor etc etc.

When I earned a hundred pounds, in real terms I'd be lucky to keep a tenner of it, when you consider I had four or five vehicles on the road, road tax, insurance, every gallon of petrol taxed to the hilt, any food etc purchase VAT,

being self employed and having a bit of luck, a lot of drive and a good education helps, but for every self employed person earning good money, there are a good few more living hand to mouth and when the slightest thing goes wrong they are fucked.

No one likes scroungers, but some people aren't scroungers by choice, people will always want whats best for their families, they should have the right incentives and support to find work, not be driven into it thru starvation and blackmail.

I can't work out where Adam is coming from, it's as if he really wants to alienate himself from everyone in general, there must be some serious underlying factors behind his methods.

Been there set up a small landscaping buiss,im a brickie by trade but thanks to the great british weather it went tits up.Good luck to others who try tho

People are lazy. *looks at merthryr*

I'm willing to f*cking bet Meerkat Recruitment will be on it's arse within a year and Mr Brown will be crying to the government to help him out. And by f**k how do you manage to find the time to run your own business, Do the taxis, your stand up career and spout absolute shite on here, f**k me we got a jack of all trades here.

I bet your also claiming disability benefits for your lisp on top of that.

Your example isnt even proper self employed your relying on what is for want of a better word someonelse to employ you.

more and more companies are taking on self employed people these days because of the costs of taking people on.

Do you mean subbies?

Thats been going on for f*cking years you whopper

sorry but aren't subbies are also self employed

Do you have a grasp of ANYTHING?

I'm not a kid. I been round the block a bit.

But you leave me gasping for breath with your stupidity.

Have you ever been diagnosed Special Needs? serious now?

Taxiiiiii for Adaaaaam.

("Self-employed" fleet driver obviously)

sorry all but I'm of the mindset that having some money is better than having none at all and as far as Im awear being on the dole is very similar to having none at all.

sorry all but I'm of the mindset that having some money is better than having none at all and as far as Im awear being on the dole is very similar to having none at all.

Thats why your so far from the real world adam, some of the things you have said in this threadf tells me this. But then again working as a subbie on £40 a day cleaning windows will take off for people with familys in south wales now . Watch this space

I can just see the future of Wales in Adams eyes, everyone with spotlessly clean windows and travelling everywhere in taxis.

In all seriousness, Adam does seem obsessed with money, and for a man who's tastes both ends of the spectrum , I would like to say money isn't the most important thing, I know a lot of sad bitter and twisted rich lonely people.

I am lucky coz I am a billionaire, not in financial terms but in real value like good friends, I think Adam is trying to use money as a replacement.
To me and I#m sure most others, health and happiness are far more important and money can't buy those.

Without trying to sound patronising, coz I take the piss out of him more than most,I am starting to feel a bit sorry for him, hopefully he wont come down with a bump and can find whatever he is looking for, which I think is a bit of real love and friendship and possibly hence the attention seeking posts, even if they are confrontational.

What do they say about dogs, they'd rather be kicked up the arse than ignored, at least that way they feel part of things.

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

Yeah but how much per day after you take away all the costs and the petrol? Its probably less than a desk job?

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

Yeah but how much per day after you take away all the costs and the petrol? Its probably less than a desk job?

A licence to drive a taxi is not the same as a licence to run one.

Who's car did you use? Were you working for someone else or had you got yourself
all licenced up and were driving your motor?

£40 a day for cleaning windows, your having a laugh.
Our window cleaner does the front and back for £7 takes about 20mins at most. Then he goes to another 5 on our street.

Everyone pays cash so no tax to pay. I bet he clears £400-£500 a week if he does 2-3 streets a day.

£40 a day for cleaning windows, your having a laugh.
Our window cleaner does the front and back for £7 takes about 20mins at most. Then he goes to another 5 on our street.

Everyone pays cash so no tax to pay. I bet he clears £400-£500 a week if he does 2-3 streets a day.

I did say at least, so theres clear proof that there is money to made on jobs like that and give me window cleaning than being on the dole.

Saying that I don't see him from November to febuary, he's probably in Mexico or the carribean in his. Holiday home.

Saying that I don't see him from November to febuary, he's probably in Mexico or the carribean in his. Holiday home.

my point being is that if there's nothing about then make it happen yourself and your example is a clear example of that point