Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:11 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:BigGwynram wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Sorry but our owners knew what would happen with this re brand and the division it would cause. Dont blame either the red or Blue side just vincent Tan. There was no need to do what he has done just for his own ego.
So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
Have you not considered Gwyn that for some people, the history of the club is more important than winning one game?
And how to you change history, how has a colour or a badge changed wiped out our history, Ask Rangers NEWCO how to wipe out an history, because there is no record or history now for the new Rangers, that died when Glasgow Rangers went out of business, is that what you want to happen here? Whilst we are trading, we have a history and we have more importantly a future, and this protest is intended for just one game, and what if it makes no difference are the KCB going to just walk away or become even more desperate, one game three points, we missed the play offs two seasons ago by one goal not even by three points.
Maybe its not for you, but that doesn't mean everyone else can't have their own opinions.
Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but don't spoil it or disrupt it for the vast majority of real Cardiff fans who want the team and club to succeed, the real fans want what's best for the club, not simply what suits certain fans such as my favourite colour.
If they feel its right to protest during the games then that's up to them.
No, sorry I don't agree with that and I think they may be risking the wrath of the vast majority which could lead to major disruption.
I wont be during the games, but i agree with it beforehand.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:11 pm
dazzyt wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:I said in the first KCB meeting that we shouldnt do anything as soon as the clock starts.......really dont think this is the right thing to do
I don't remember you saying that Craig?
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:12 pm
droopy wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:undybluebird wrote:droopy , whats your seat number and where in the ground please? i know many people at the club , and would like to inform them of yourr threats!!
Exactly, he can make these threats over the internet but has no idea who he would be fighting. Could be a 15st boxer who would knock him out or a 9stone geek who won't even fight back, my point is it could be anyone. But in his head i'm sure he could beat anyone up, so there's no point reasoning with him or anyone of that attitude.
Listen up kid, if someone tries to derail all the hard work that Malky and the boys have put in over the summer by protesting for something that is not going to make any difference, I'm saying I will fight. As you can tell I am very passionate, not a fighter as such, but can hold my own.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:12 pm
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:13 pm
droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:14 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:scott i think you missing the whole point here as much we all hate the red crap we have all been delt the hand, like i said outside the ground i get that by trying to get the message across piecefully but booing and chanting other things will only get on the pitch to the players during the game everybody can see this.
I do see where youre coming from, but don't you see that for some people, keeping cardiff blue and trying to protect the history of the club may be more imporant than the result of one game?
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:14 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:droopy wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:undybluebird wrote:droopy , whats your seat number and where in the ground please? i know many people at the club , and would like to inform them of yourr threats!!
Exactly, he can make these threats over the internet but has no idea who he would be fighting. Could be a 15st boxer who would knock him out or a 9stone geek who won't even fight back, my point is it could be anyone. But in his head i'm sure he could beat anyone up, so there's no point reasoning with him or anyone of that attitude.
Listen up kid, if someone tries to derail all the hard work that Malky and the boys have put in over the summer by protesting for something that is not going to make any difference, I'm saying I will fight. As you can tell I am very passionate, not a fighter as such, but can hold my own.
Exactly, and i don't know you and have nothing against you personally, you might be the toughest bloke in the stadium.
But you also might pick a fight with the toughest guy in the stadium and get hurt yourself, right?
My point is, you're threatening people like they should be scared of you. I'm just saying, i don't see why they should.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:14 pm
scott_w_ccfc wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:scott i think you missing the whole point here as much we all hate the red crap we have all been delt the hand, like i said outside the ground i get that by trying to get the message across piecefully but booing and chanting other things will only get on the pitch to the players during the game everybody can see this.
I do see where youre coming from, but don't you see that for some people, keeping cardiff blue and trying to protect the history of the club may be more imporant than the result of one game?
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:15 pm
Hofmeister wrote:isnt the current situation typical?
there are many of us "KCB campaigners" who say it is a bad idea to demonstrate INSIDE the CCS, we should do it OUTSIDE, and within a few minutes we get slated for not being Cardiff fans, while we are saying inside we will just support our team...
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:15 pm
AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:15 pm
BigGwynram wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:BigGwynram wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Sorry but our owners knew what would happen with this re brand and the division it would cause. Dont blame either the red or Blue side just vincent Tan. There was no need to do what he has done just for his own ego.
So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
Have you not considered Gwyn that for some people, the history of the club is more important than winning one game?
And how to you change history, how has a colour or a badge changed wiped out our history, Ask Rangers NEWCO how to wipe out an history, because there is no record or history now for the new Rangers, that died when Glasgow Rangers went out of business, is that what you want to happen here? Whilst we are trading, we have a history and we have more importantly a future, and this protest is intended for just one game, and what if it makes no difference are the KCB going to just walk away or become even more desperate, one game three points, we missed the play offs two seasons ago by one goal not even by three points.
Maybe its not for you, but that doesn't mean everyone else can't have their own opinions.
Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but don't spoil it or disrupt it for the vast majority of real Cardiff fans who want the team and club to succeed, the real fans want what's best for the club, not simply what suits certain fans such as my favourite colour.
If they feel its right to protest during the games then that's up to them.
No, sorry I don't agree with that and I think they may be risking the wrath of the vast majority which could lead to major disruption.
I wont be during the games, but i agree with it beforehand.
But you think it's Ok for others to do it.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:16 pm
AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:17 pm
undybluebird wrote:AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
OMFG!! I cannot believe you condone this behaviour. I swear to god if anyone protests inside the stadium near me, I will give them a slap!
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:17 pm
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:18 pm
undybluebird wrote:AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
OMFG!! I cannot believe you condone this behaviour. I swear to god if anyone protests inside the stadium near me, I will give them a slap!
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:19 pm
droopy wrote:undybluebird wrote:AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
OMFG!! I cannot believe you condone this behaviour. I swear to god if anyone protests inside the stadium near me, I will give them a slap!
Better hope you don't slap the wrong person then, i'm sure there are plenty of people in the stadium who are more than capable of defending themselves.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:19 pm
Hofmeister wrote:isnt the current situation typical?
there are many of us "KCB campaigners" who say it is a bad idea to demonstrate INSIDE the CCS, we should do it OUTSIDE, and within a few minutes we get slated for not being Cardiff fans, while we are saying inside we will just support our team...
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:20 pm
undybluebird wrote:droopy wrote:undybluebird wrote:AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
OMFG!! I cannot believe you condone this behaviour. I swear to god if anyone protests inside the stadium near me, I will give them a slap!
Better hope you don't slap the wrong person then, i'm sure there are plenty of people in the stadium who are more than capable of defending themselves.
They better hope their not sat near me then, coz they will be in for a fight.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:20 pm
undybluebird wrote:AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
OMFG!! I cannot believe you condone this behaviour. I swear to god if anyone protests inside the stadium near me, I will give them a slap!
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:21 pm
AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:undybluebird wrote:AberdareCCFC1966 wrote:droopy wrote:So you are happy to protest in the stadium even if it disrupts the on the field activity.
If no one runs on the pitch then no problem. They are proffesional players they know something will happen.
OMFG!! I cannot believe you condone this behaviour. I swear to god if anyone protests inside the stadium near me, I will give them a slap!
Better hope you don't slap the wrong person then, i'm sure there are plenty of people in the stadium who are more than capable of defending themselves.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:23 pm
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:23 pm
CP76 wrote:Hofmeister wrote:isnt the current situation typical?
there are many of us "KCB campaigners" who say it is a bad idea to demonstrate INSIDE the CCS, we should do it OUTSIDE, and within a few minutes we get slated for not being Cardiff fans, while we are saying inside we will just support our team...
Well your "leader" or whoever is in charge of this shambles are suggesting protesting INSIDE the ground.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:23 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Gwyn unless we reach the Prem in at least two seasons what has happened to Rangers or Portsmouth will be us !! Even if we reach the prem we could still be fooked. We are still up to our armpits in debt and rising every single day. And it will get a lot worse with Bellers wages.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:26 pm
Hofmeister wrote:so? that doesnt mean I will "follow the leader" like many reds have done... I am an individual and I can think and speak for myself, and if I dont like something, I dont have to say or think the opposite just because someone else tells me to...
HATE the re-brand
all for a peaceful demo outside but
will NOT protest inside the CCS
and FAO whoever made that KCB statement, think over it again, mate. It's a bad idea and doesnt help the cause...
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:26 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Hofmeister wrote:isnt the current situation typical?
there are many of us "KCB campaigners" who say it is a bad idea to demonstrate INSIDE the CCS, we should do it OUTSIDE, and within a few minutes we get slated for not being Cardiff fans, while we are saying inside we will just support our team...
I accept that you personally have seen the bigger picture, but someone from the KCB has urged for a protest to be held inside the ground via facebook (see the OP).
In all honesty I think you should turn your fire on those who are running the KCB and are putting out this kind of self-defeating crap rather than trying to play the victim card.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:27 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Gwyn unless we reach the Prem in at least two seasons what has happened to Rangers or Portsmouth will be us !! Even if we reach the prem we could still be fooked. We are still up to our armpits in debt and rising every single day. And it will get a lot worse with Bellers wages.
I agree that if we don't go up in the next season or two we will be in admin (that's why Langston aren't getting paid now)
The difference is VT will be there to buy us out of Admin, but that as they say is another story...
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:27 pm
bluebird1972 wrote:Why didn't the members/supporters of KCB put as much effort into organising a movement to generating a better atmosphere in the stadium last year.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:27 pm
droopy wrote:scott_w_ccfc wrote:undybluebird wrote:droopy , whats your seat number and where in the ground please? i know many people at the club , and would like to inform them of yourr threats!!
Exactly, he can make these threats over the internet but has no idea who he would be fighting. Could be a 15st boxer who would knock him out or a 9stone geek who won't even fight back, my point is it could be anyone. But in his head i'm sure he could beat anyone up, so there's no point reasoning with him or anyone of that attitude.
Listen up kid, if someone tries to derail all the hard work that Malky and the boys have put in over the summer by protesting for something that is not going to make any difference, I'm saying I will fight. As you can tell I am very passionate, not a fighter as such, but can hold my own.
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:27 pm
Valleybluebird wrote:I want Cardiff to be blue,, but we should accept it this season now, and concentrate on supporting the team.... All these protests will just distract the players etc, people need to grow up
Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:28 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Hofmeister wrote:so? that doesnt mean I will "follow the leader" like many reds have done... I am an individual and I can think and speak for myself, and if I dont like something, I dont have to say or think the opposite just because someone else tells me to...
HATE the re-brand
all for a peaceful demo outside but
will NOT protest inside the CCS
and FAO whoever made that KCB statement, think over it again, mate. It's a bad idea and doesnt help the cause...
Fair play you have just shot right up in my estimations.
TBH the KCB would have a load of good will if only it was ran correctly, how about you doing it?