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Re: Why do old people know nothing about modern football?

Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:30 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Thanks for your response but it was actually the points above I was hoping for an answer too though. Admittedly these might trickier which is why i may have rashly jumped to the conclusion you were dodging the points above. If you could shed a little wisdom on the above it would be appreciated though. I am genuinely curious how somehow who is not ex pro could land what most of us would see as a dream job. Just put it down as being a little jealous.


I dont regard it as a dream job and I did play pro level in conference. However, it wasn't that that was the main factor in getting the job. My degree was vital in me securing a position. Its not something I can see myself doing for life but its a great learning experience and the best part is I get to travel the world. Hence why im abroad now. :ayatollah:

As for generating a debate..... as I have said in a number of my posts it is a shame that the valid points made in this thread are buried amongst moments of unnecessary antogonism.


Ok sorry. Just annoyed at people who keep coming at you with snide remarks calling you a liar before knowing the full facts. When that happens you get defensive. If you were offended I do apologise.

Re: Why do old people know nothing about modern football?

Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:38 pm

Thoughts on some players mentioned

Ganso - Was very good and still got a lot of potential, suffered a lot of injuries and fallen from the limelight to be overtaken by other youngsters, was close to joining Internacional from Sao Paulo, not a massive move for him.

Lucas Moura - very good but overrated, little end product and would struggle with a big money move to a European club

Neymar - Better than you make out and would cope better than others think in my opinion, the best of the bunch.

Re: Why do old people know nothing about modern football?

Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:42 pm

Daniel M wrote:Thoughts on some players mentioned

Ganso - Was very good and still got a lot of potential, suffered a lot of injuries and fallen from the limelight to be overtaken by other youngsters, was close to joining Internacional from Sao Paulo, not a massive move for him.

Lucas Moura - very good but overrated, little end product and would struggle with a big money move to a European club

Neymar - Better than you make out and would cope better than others think in my opinion, the best of the bunch.


Lucas is better suited than Neymar.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/ser ... n-european

A world class pro agrees with me so I think I'll take his view instead. :ayatollah:

I agree with Ganso though. His career has taken a hit.

Re: Why do old people know nothing about modern football?

Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:51 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
RedBluebird wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
RedBluebird wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:

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Quite easy, its called education.


1. Your statement makes a lot of assertions as to your low opinion of my own education so I would be interested to see a) your opinion of my own education and b) how you made that assumption based on nothing more than message board comments.

2. You do not need any specific qualifications to be a football agent other than a good understanding of FIFA regulations according to the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3444881.stm is there much difference (other than an agent probably requiring a better knowledge of international legal systems) between a scout and an agent - they both identify footballing talent for sale just scouts are essentially 'in house'

3. The only definitive 'education' that would be beneficial would be FIFA/UEFA coaching badges and these seem to be a preferred but not essential qualification.

4. No concrete answers but the question 'how to become a football scout' is discussed on a number of forums and the overwhelming consensus is that unless you have been a player at a reasonably high level it is very hard to become a professional scout. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=qualif ... x-a&surl=1

So what part of your education exactly enabled you to land your dream job?


This has dragged on so f*cking long I really don't care if you are in Cardiff using Virgin broadband as Merlin states or in Eastern Europe scouting out football talent as you say.

Feel free to skip the first point - it doesn't matter what your opinion is of me and your assertions about my education. In retrospect i admit that it was just a snide off the cuff remark that got my goat so i'll forget it and move on.

I don't care if you are really a football scout or not but I just want to know WHAT DEGREE you would have to have that would that would be relevant to being a football scout as like I have said above it just seems to be a job that is generally based on relationships rather than qualifications.

If anyone else can answer then please fill yer boots.

(by the way I don't want to become a football scout I just want to know for the sake of knowing) :mrgreen:

Re: Why do old people know nothing about modern football?

Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:38 pm

RedBluebird wrote:
Daniel M wrote:Thoughts on some players mentioned

Ganso - Was very good and still got a lot of potential, suffered a lot of injuries and fallen from the limelight to be overtaken by other youngsters, was close to joining Internacional from Sao Paulo, not a massive move for him.

Lucas Moura - very good but overrated, little end product and would struggle with a big money move to a European club

Neymar - Better than you make out and would cope better than others think in my opinion, the best of the bunch.


Lucas is better suited than Neymar.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/ser ... n-european

A world class pro agrees with me so I think I'll take his view instead. :ayatollah:

I agree with Ganso though. His career has taken a hit.


Meh I think everyone has different opinions on the likes of Neymar and Lucas, Ganso is a strange one though, so much potential last year just seemed to has stalled in terms of development