HAVE I MISSED SOMETHING

Woman and children involved was an own goal.

What happened with them then, I did leave before some, but did something happen, if so bang out of order.

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least trying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

Gwyn although you may not have made the threats personally, it is apparent from your post that you condone the actions.
You have previously posted on this forum that you would protest once that the Malaysians had invested sufficiently and when you were confident that the Malaysians had invested to the extent that they were unable to walk away.
Your negativity aimed at the fans wanting to protest now can only be down to the fact that Sam Hammam does not want any protest currently taking place whilst the Langston deal is in progress.This is qualified by the fact that Sam was quite happy to for the fans to give the owners what for at a later date and you endorsed these views in your posts at the time. It is therefore hypocritical to chastise fans just because they want to protest presently just because the timing is at odds with the completion of the Langston deal.
It is apparent to a growing number of supporters that at present, your loyalty to Sam Hamman is far greater than your loyalty towards fighting the rebranding proposals. No doubt once the Langston deal is concluded, you will then change position again and focus fully on joining in the fight opposing the rebranding but the fight might already have been lost by then.
Once the Malaysians have consolidated their position then it will be harder than ever to gain compromises from them so I would ask that you fully commit to the fight now and don't allow your loyalty to Sam to taint your judgment in this case.

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least trying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

Well said buddy and from the replies over the past few days you seem to be winning the argument over the rebranding. If KCB want to lobby then by all means let them by using letters, fanzines, passive protests (wearing blue) and boycotting the club shop.

But keep the players and management out of it by not protesting in the stadium as that would be the ultimate act in defeating themselves.

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least trying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

Well said buddy and from the replies over the past few days you seem to be winning the argument over the rebranding. If KCB want to lobby then by all means let them by using letters, fanzines, passive protests (wearing blue) and boycotting the club shop.

But keep the players and management out of it by not protesting in the stadium as that would be the ultimate act in defeating themselves.

I agree Tony that we should keep the players and managers out of it but it is difficult to do so when to the club unashamedly use them to promote and defend the rebranding.

Big suggestion, to save typing out multiple replies, pm me and more than happy to phone you at my cost promise, now that isn't a threat and I am the last person in the world to condone bullying, people who know the real me as opposed to the one they imagine from these fecking message boards and my occasional media rant are assuming lot's. without knowing all the facts.

All a bunch of playground drama queen fairies who are scared because of your e-reputation.

I quite frankly, as an adult, do not give a shit. No disrespect intended but im an adult and dont care about this tittle tattle nonsense Gwyn.

In your interviews I've seen you've come across as extremely passionate. Whilst at times it may border on the 'chill out a moment' I cant say much because we've all been a bit OTT.

You certainly do not come across as an individual to fear or I would fear. There is no damn way.

I suggest anyone who does fear you in fact has a good look at themselves and question why. Might be more to do with their own issues than the 'supposed' threat you and your posse pose.

What a great post. I'm not picking on either side here as both the pro-blue and red over the past few days been trying to portray themselves as the victims of 'threats and violence', when in truth it was a storm in a tea cup (as someone put it the other day).

All that crap should be ditched and the only thing that counts is the strength of argument rather than finding the easiest route to demonise someone.

You can be old young big or small and it should-not mean a jot, so lets stop with the fairy stories and start with the factual points of what is best for our club.

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least trying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

Gwyn although you may not have made the threats personally, it is apparent from your post that you condone the actions.
So it's gone now from me making threats to condoning them, and how do you assume that one, and should i apologise for something you assumed, it is funny isn't it.

You have previously posted on this forum that you would protest once that the Malaysians had invested sufficiently and when you were confident that the Malaysians had invested to the extent that they were unable to walk away.
And still stand by that, why protest before they are stuck with us? invest in us first, perhaps they may then be open to a bit of fan consultation, pressure or negotiation, call it what you want, but don't drive them of until they have wandered fully in.

Your negativity aimed at the fans wanting to protest now can only be down to the fact that Sam Hammam does not want any protest currently taking place whilst the Langston deal is in progress.
and is this fact or more assumption,my negativity against fans wanting to disrupt the players on the pitch is only down to Sam Hammam not wanting a protest during negotiations, yes you must be right on that, coz I don't want the team to win every game and every point and be totally focused on pitch matters not protests, I want to avoid protest for Langstons sake, yeh OK you caught me out there guilty as charged and witnessed by Stevie Wonder.

This is qualified by the fact that Sam was quite happy to for the fans to give the owners what for at a later date and you endorsed these views in your posts at the time. It is therefore hypocritical to chastise fans just because they want to protest presently just because the timing is at odds with the completion of the Langston deal.

It is apparent to a growing number of supporters that at present, your loyalty to Sam Hamman is far greater than your loyalty towards fighting the rebranding proposals. No doubt once the Langston deal is concluded, you will then change position again and focus fully on joining in the fight opposing the rebranding but the fight might already have been lost by then.
What is apparent, my loyalty to Sam Hammam is greater than fighting the rebranding proposals, I am not fighting the rebranding proposals because i qwant the investment that goes along with it, as do most of us, what has that go to do with Sam Hammam? and then you go on to say that once the deal with Sam is done I'll change sides and fight against the rebrand and the investment the club needs, NOW come on, even you must see how silly that makes your case look?

Once the Malaysians have consolidated their position then it will be harder than ever to gain compromises from them so I would ask that you fully commit to the fight now and don't allow your loyalty to Sam to taint your judgment in this case.

When you say consolidated their position, do you mean turned the debt to equity, fully followed up on their promises, isn't that what we all hope for, are you saying they'll be in a stronger position when they totally own the club and clear all the debt, because I agree with you, they will be in a stronger position, they will be sole owners???? don't see what you are getting at, ring me for a chat if you need to clear it up.

As I have asked before if such threats were issued why dont they go to the police? they wont need to ask the club for protection then

the daft thing about this is and im not going to generalise but some KCB supporters have had their season ticket money refunded by the club and will not be attending games in any form. These same people though want to come to the ground and demonstrate outside but expect the club they have turned their back on to protect them.
im not slating them i just dont see the logic in it

You can't make it up can you f*cking priceless

So you dont think to a woman or a teenager (that were present at the meeting) that a 6"6, 20st Ex-Judo expert would come across as threatening in the manner which they alledgedley acted??

No. Because had Gwyn got out of order there would have been many there to sort him out. There is no question about that.

f*cking hell can you just let Gwyn answer the questions.

You tell Craig to stop second guessing people then proceed to answer Gwyns questions for him

As I have asked before if such threats were issued why dont they go to the police? they wont need to ask the club for protection then

the daft thing about this is and im not going to generalise but some KCB supporters have had their season ticket money refunded by the club and will not be attending games in any form. These same people though want to come to the ground and demonstrate outside but expect the club they have turned their back on to protect them.
im not slating them i just dont see the logic in it

You can't make it up can you f*cking priceless

Me and my mate were chuckling about that earlier.

We are going to protest against you but you must provide security

So you dont think to a woman or a teenager (that were present at the meeting) that a 6"6, 20st Ex-Judo expert would come across as threatening in the manner which they alledgedley acted??

No. Because had Gwyn got out of order there would have been many there to sort him out. There is no question about that.

f*cking hell can you just let Gwyn answer the questions.

You tell Craig to stop second guessing people then proceed to answer Gwyns questions for him

probably is Gwyn

20 Thousand Fans dressed in blue singing blue birds Probably The best protest ever

Gwyn you are a very clever Man. You can twist any situation to your own advantage. Any thing that happened you can turn it so you are the night in shinning armour. As i said very clever VT must be very proud

Gwyn you are a very clever Man. You can twist any situation to your own advantage. Any thing that happened you can turn it so you are the night in shinning armour. As i said very clever VT must be very proud

I don't know about VT being proud, but he may be puzzled as to who I am,never met him, never spoken or written to him, don't think he needs my help in getting deals done or things is own way,well up for a huge bribe mind if he feels he needs to offer me one. ( f**k me, that will come back to haunt me as a serious quote in time, no doubt, )

I seriously doubt he is aware of what is going on at ground level among our lot, or at the club for that matter, thing he may be involved ain a few bigger projects that demand more of his time, be great to think of hi sitting in Malaysia reading this board mind, bet he pissed himself laughing when Annis said that Sam would settle for ten million, now that would have made VT take notice, a quick five million pound saving, I bet Sam was well pleased about that.

Gwyn you are a very clever Man. You can twist any situation to your own advantage. Any thing that happened you can turn it so you are the night in shinning armour. As i said very clever VT must be very proud

I don't know about VT being proud, but he may be puzzled as to who I am,never met him, never spoken or written to him, don't think he needs my help in getting deals done or things is own way,well up for a huge bribe mind if he feels he needs to offer me one. ( f**k me, that will come back to haunt me as a serious quote in time, no doubt, )

I seriously doubt he is aware of what is going on at ground level among our lot, or at the club for that matter, thing he may be involved ain a few bigger projects that demand more of his time, be great to think of hi sitting in Malaysia reading this board mind, bet he pissed himself laughing when Annis said that Sam would settle for ten million, now that would have made VT take notice, a quick five million pound saving, I bet Sam was well pleased about that.

gwyn that was just the net figure inflation and vat in lebanon runs at 50% hence the 15 million

Gwyn, this is a fundamental change to our club and is a loss of identity. Now if as a fan base people wish to protest that be it inside or outside the ground in the way of banners,chants or whatever, as long as its peacefully carried out and doesn't affect the game in the way of people on the pitch etc then its got absolutely f**k all to do with you so please take your head out of your arse. You are not the fans police !

Gwyn, this is a fundamental change to our club and is a loss of identity. Now if as a fan base people wish to protest that be it inside or outside the ground in the way of banners,chants or whatever, as long as its peacefully carried out and doesn't affect the game in the way of people on the pitch etc then its got absolutely f**k all to do with you so please take your head out of your arse. You are not the fans police !

going off topic here super kev but whilst your shagging everyone's wife from the canton stand have you given any thought as to who is shagging your wife
just asking like

Gwyn, this is a fundamental change to our club and is a loss of identity. Now if as a fan base people wish to protest that be it inside or outside the ground in the way of banners,chants or whatever, as long as its peacefully carried out and doesn't affect the game in the way of people on the pitch etc then its got absolutely f**k all to do with you so please take your head out of your arse. You are not the fans police !

going off topic here super kev but whilst your shagging everyone's wife from the canton stand have you given any thought as to who is shagging your wife
just asking like

Feel sorry for any fucker shagging my wife

Gwyn, this is a fundamental change to our club and is a loss of identity. Now if as a fan base people wish to protest that be it inside or outside the ground in the way of banners,chants or whatever, as long as its peacefully carried out and doesn't affect the game in the way of people on the pitch etc then its got absolutely f**k all to do with you so please take your head out of your arse. You are not the fans police !

That's what a lot of us have been saying, "as long as it doesn't affect the game on the pitch" glad to see you on board.

Gwyn, this is a fundamental change to our club and is a loss of identity. Now if as a fan base people wish to protest that be it inside or outside the ground in the way of banners,chants or whatever, as long as its peacefully carried out and doesn't affect the game in the way of people on the pitch etc then its got absolutely f**k all to do with you so please take your head out of your arse. You are not the fans police !

That's what a lot of us have been saying, "as long as it doesn't affect the game on the pitch" glad to see you on board.

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Glad that's cleared up as I don't think the KCB campaign has ever mentioned disrupting the game which I wouldn't agree with. Protesting inside the ground though is fair enough in my view as long as its peaceful glad you agree

Gwyn, this is a fundamental change to our club and is a loss of identity. Now if as a fan base people wish to protest that be it inside or outside the ground in the way of banners,chants or whatever, as long as its peacefully carried out and doesn't affect the game in the way of people on the pitch etc then its got absolutely f**k all to do with you so please take your head out of your arse. You are not the fans police !

That's what a lot of us have been saying, "as long as it doesn't affect the game on the pitch" glad to see you on board.

So if someone holds up a banner relating to your rebranding that you don't agree with what is it you are suggesting you are going to do exactly?

Gwyn your a bully simple as that

Gwyn your a bully simple as that

What's been said now, and who have I bullied for f**k sake? or is this yet more assumptions.

You know who gwyn easy to hide behind a key board

Gwyn, this is a fundamental change to our club and is a loss of identity. Now if as a fan base people wish to protest that be it inside or outside the ground in the way of banners,chants or whatever, as long as its peacefully carried out and doesn't affect the game in the way of people on the pitch etc then its got absolutely f**k all to do with you so please take your head out of your arse. You are not the fans police !

That's what a lot of us have been saying, "as long as it doesn't affect the game on the pitch" glad to see you on board.

So if someone holds up a banner relating to your rebranding that you don't agree with what is it you are suggesting you are going to do exactly?

In your own time.

You know who gwyn easy to hide behind a key board

who the f**k have I got to hide from, and what am I hiding, do you always work in riddles, just state who I've bullied and what I said, or typed if it keyboard bullying, you really have got me confused, just show us the relative post.

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least tr
ying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

So as someone planning protests in the stadium, are you threatening me?

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least tr
ying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

So as someone planning protests in the stadium, are you threatening me?

* IGNORE ------ JAK TW@T ALERT*

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least tr
ying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

So as someone planning protests in the stadium, are you threatening me?

* IGNORE ------ JAK TW@T ALERT*

At least spell it properly... And it makes no sense.

So gwyn are you threatening me? Come on big fella, don't start hiding now I've asked you a direct question....

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least tr
ying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

So as someone planning protests in the stadium, are you threatening me?

* IGNORE ------ JAK TW@T ALERT*

At least spell it properly... And it makes no sense.

So gwyn are you threatening me? Come on big fella, don't start hiding now I've asked you a direct question....

I would say he definitely is.

Been away so sorry for delay, I was there at the meeting which by the title alone KEEP CARDIFF BLUE is more than OK with me, firstly I and many others want to make sure firstly we keep Cardiff, and whilst we can't keep it blue coz we are red, we can't hopefully work to get it back to blue which I'm sure we all want.As far as I'm concerned that is an invite to any Cardiff fan.

I can honestly say, I haven't met anyone who would choose red, but if it's part of the package, then many of us will go along with it, even if it is reluctantly.

My personal view and the approach I intend taking, is to fully support the team on the pitch as always, hope and pray that VT fulfills his promises that went along with the rebrand,he deserves at least that much after rescuing us from the mess we were in, however if in six months or so time it is apparent we have been lied to or shafted, then it's a whole new ball game and we should all let him know the consequences, but until then we should keep our powder dry.

Protesting now seems pointless to me at present because we are stuck with red and a crap badge for at least one season,no problem with actions such as wearing blue shirts, and actually suggested it myself as a form of peaceful protest in the first meeting with the club and fans. But we can't disrupt the team or events on the pitch, that is madness in my eyes.

And just for the record as others have said, no threats were made by me personally other than as a generalization that was shared by a good few, I wouldn't stand by and just allow disruption to events on the pitch without at least tr
ying to prevent it, if that is seen as a threat, then it should only be seen as one by those planning such actions.

So as someone planning protests in the stadium, are you threatening me?

But you won't be in the ground as you don't follow Cardiff City. More of your wum lies again.