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Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:07 pm

2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.

I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?

Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.



exactly i feel this new promotion bonus may well f**k us over and slow a deal being done down rapidly

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:17 pm

So if we get promoted we will owe them more? So if we dont get promoted we wont have to owe them then? :? :lol:

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:21 pm

i would prefer all the talk to be about our new signings, not this old chestnut
but i also hope sam gets what he deserves.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:23 pm

2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.

I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?

Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.

Luke, there is an offer of a promotion bonus in one of the 3 offers the club made public, it is not a new thing that Langston has requested.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:33 pm

carlccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.

I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?

Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.

Luke, there is an offer of a promotion bonus in one of the 3 offers the club made public, it is not a new thing that Langston has requested.


Fair enough but this has never been reported by anyone.
It's been constantly said Sam wants a one off payment of 10m to be gone.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:36 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.

I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?

Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.

Luke, there is an offer of a promotion bonus in one of the 3 offers the club made public, it is not a new thing that Langston has requested.


Fair enough but this has never been reported by anyone.
It's been constantly said Sam wants a one off payment of 10m to be gone.


I think I remember reading it in the papers years ago

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:15 pm

Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.

Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.

I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:05 pm

Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.

Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.

I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.

Sam has not changed tact.

Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.

If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:09 pm

What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:22 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.

Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.

I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.

Sam has not changed tact.

Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.

If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.


Really?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:30 pm

NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.

Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.

I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.

Sam has not changed tact.

Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.

If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.


Really?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/

Yes really.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:32 pm

carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.

Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.

I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.

Sam has not changed tact.

Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.

If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.


Really?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/

Yes really.


That article states otherwise wouldn't you say?

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:35 pm

Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.

Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:35 pm

NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.

Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.

I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.

Sam has not changed tact.

Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.

If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.


Really?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/

Yes really.


That article states otherwise wouldn't you say?

The article you say, not Sam Hammam.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:39 pm

carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.

Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.

I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.

Sam has not changed tact.

Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.

If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.


Really?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/

Yes really.


That article states otherwise wouldn't you say?

The article you say, not Sam Hammam.


No, actually your mate does.

So are you saying Annis was mistaken when saying
Originally, Vincent Tan offered £10m up front. That is the one Langston will accept.
or was he lying?

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:40 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.

Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?



wait! so sam is saying to VT we can deal if you turn loans to equity? i think ive gt it wrong but no harm in asking :lol: if thats right though wasnt the loans to equity based on sam being paid off?


p.s any updates soon :lol:

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:44 pm

NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:Sam has not changed tact.

Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.

If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.


Really?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/

Yes really.


That article states otherwise wouldn't you say?

The article you say, not Sam Hammam.


No, actually your mate does.

So are you saying Annis was mistaken when saying
Originally, Vincent Tan offered £10m up front. That is the one Langston will accept.
or was he lying?

You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.

I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.

Deal by the end of July, correct.

£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.

But other parts of the deal were missing.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:47 pm

carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.

I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.

Deal by the end of July, correct.

£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.

But other parts of the deal were missing.


Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:49 pm

NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.

I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.

Deal by the end of July, correct.

£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.

But other parts of the deal were missing.


Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?

Ask my mate.

What I can tell you is I spoke to two of the Echo journalists the night before the article was run and told them that it was not a factually correct piece and this would be a misleading article.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:50 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.

Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?

Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice :?:

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:52 pm

CHRIS PIKE wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.

Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?

Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice :?:

Sam is not Langston.

Langston will get their money.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:53 pm

carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.

I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.

Deal by the end of July, correct.

£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.

But other parts of the deal were missing.


Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?

Ask my mate.

What I can tell you is I spoke to two of the Echo journalists the night before the article was run and told them that it was not a factually correct piece and this would be a misleading article.


I'm asking you as he's not online and you give the impression that you know the answer as I'm sure the two of you have conversed regarding it. It's a straightforward question.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:53 pm

i hope a deal is done soon, doubt it though :ayatollah:

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 pm

carlccfc wrote:
CHRIS PIKE wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.

Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?

Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice :?:

Sam is not Langston.

Langston will get their money.

you said a personal Sacrifice Carl . how is it personal if he's not Langston ????

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 pm

Wish Mr Tan would simply pay up so we can all move on and think about that football hitting the back of the net :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:56 pm

NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.

I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.

Deal by the end of July, correct.

£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.

But other parts of the deal were missing.


Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?

Ask my mate.

What I can tell you is I spoke to two of the Echo journalists the night before the article was run and told them that it was not a factually correct piece and this would be a misleading article.


I'm asking you as he's not online and you give the impression that you know the answer as I'm sure the two of you have conversed regarding it. It's a straightforward question.

And I gave you a straightforward answer, ask Annis.

I have told you the article was not factually correct, which is important considering many believe Sam would accept £10million and that would be final.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:59 pm

CHRIS PIKE wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
CHRIS PIKE wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.

Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?

Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice :?:

Sam is not Langston.

Langston will get their money.

you said a personal Sacrifice Carl . how is it personal if he's not Langston ????

I did indeed.

Langston will get their money.

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:00 pm

carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.

I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.

Deal by the end of July, correct.

£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.

But other parts of the deal were missing.


Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?

Ask my mate.

What I can tell you is I spoke to two of the Echo journalists the night before the article was run and told them that it was not a factually correct piece and this would be a misleading article.


I'm asking you as he's not online and you give the impression that you know the answer as I'm sure the two of you have conversed regarding it. It's a straightforward question.

And I gave you a straightforward answer, ask Annis.

I have told you the article was not factually correct, which is important considering many believe Sam would accept £10million and that would be final.


Dodged again.

If it was factually incorrect, it's strange that neither yourself, or Annis mentioned this when it was published eh?

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:05 pm

carlccfc wrote:
CHRIS PIKE wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
CHRIS PIKE wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?

Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.

Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?

Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice :?:

Sam is not Langston.

Langston will get their money.

you said a personal Sacrifice Carl . how is it personal if he's not Langston ????

I did indeed.

Langston will get their money.

You know it and i know it that Sam is indeed Langston ........... :!: :!: :!: :!:

Re: ' So were getting nearer '

Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:10 pm

Annis and many others have said (and I've thought the same) if we have kept 10m back for Langston then why hadn't he been paid? Finally we know because the 10m doesn't get rid of him and it's Infact 15m in reality.