Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:07 pm
2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.
I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?
Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.
Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:17 pm
Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:21 pm
Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:23 pm
2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.
I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?
Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.
Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:33 pm
carlccfc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.
I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?
Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.
Luke, there is an offer of a promotion bonus in one of the 3 offers the club made public, it is not a new thing that Langston has requested.
Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:36 pm
2blue2handle wrote:carlccfc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:In fairness all we have heard for ages is Langston will gone be gone for £10m one off payment.
Never any mention of any promotion fee.
I always felt 9m would be the agreement as inbetween both amounts and saves both egos.
The new promotion bonus scuppers that?
Makes Tans 8m offer even more generous if we assume it included a further 5m bonus? That would be 3m over what was kept aside.
Luke, there is an offer of a promotion bonus in one of the 3 offers the club made public, it is not a new thing that Langston has requested.
Fair enough but this has never been reported by anyone.
It's been constantly said Sam wants a one off payment of 10m to be gone.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:15 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:05 pm
Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.
Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.
I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:09 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:22 pm
carlccfc wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.
Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.
I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.
Sam has not changed tact.
Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.
If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:30 pm
NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.
Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.
I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.
Sam has not changed tact.
Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.
If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.
Really?
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:32 pm
carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.
Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.
I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.
Sam has not changed tact.
Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.
If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.
Really?
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/
Yes really.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:35 pm
Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:35 pm
NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.
Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.
I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.
Sam has not changed tact.
Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.
If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.
Really?
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/
Yes really.
That article states otherwise wouldn't you say?
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:39 pm
carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Even last week Annis was quoted in the press as saying 10 mill and he'd go. We were all saying meet halfway which VT has offered now Sam changes tact.
Appears Sam is going to hold us up getting debt to equity and all investment.
I hope his 'gang' are putting him straight.
Sam has not changed tact.
Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.
If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.
Really?
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/
Yes really.
That article states otherwise wouldn't you say?
The article you say, not Sam Hammam.
or was he lying?Originally, Vincent Tan offered £10m up front. That is the one Langston will accept.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:40 pm
carlccfc wrote:Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?
Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.
Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:44 pm
NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:Sam has not changed tact.
Sam has never said that Langston would accept £10million to go.
If a financial agreement is to be reached, Sam says he will accept at a reduced rate, which £10million plus the £5million promotion would be, also wants VT to turn his loans into shares as part of the agreement.
Really?
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31299895/
Yes really.
That article states otherwise wouldn't you say?
The article you say, not Sam Hammam.
No, actually your mate does.
So are you saying Annis was mistaken when sayingor was he lying?Originally, Vincent Tan offered £10m up front. That is the one Langston will accept.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:47 pm
carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.
I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.
Deal by the end of July, correct.
£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.
But other parts of the deal were missing.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:49 pm
NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.
I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.
Deal by the end of July, correct.
£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.
But other parts of the deal were missing.
Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:50 pm
carlccfc wrote:Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?
Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.
Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:52 pm
CHRIS PIKE wrote:carlccfc wrote:Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?
Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.
Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?
Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:53 pm
carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.
I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.
Deal by the end of July, correct.
£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.
But other parts of the deal were missing.
Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?
Ask my mate.
What I can tell you is I spoke to two of the Echo journalists the night before the article was run and told them that it was not a factually correct piece and this would be a misleading article.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:53 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 pm
carlccfc wrote:CHRIS PIKE wrote:carlccfc wrote:Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?
Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.
Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?
Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice
Sam is not Langston.
Langston will get their money.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 pm
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:56 pm
NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.
I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.
Deal by the end of July, correct.
£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.
But other parts of the deal were missing.
Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?
Ask my mate.
What I can tell you is I spoke to two of the Echo journalists the night before the article was run and told them that it was not a factually correct piece and this would be a misleading article.
I'm asking you as he's not online and you give the impression that you know the answer as I'm sure the two of you have conversed regarding it. It's a straightforward question.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:59 pm
CHRIS PIKE wrote:carlccfc wrote:CHRIS PIKE wrote:carlccfc wrote:Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?
Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.
Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?
Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice
Sam is not Langston.
Langston will get their money.
you said a personal Sacrifice Carl . how is it personal if he's not Langston ????
Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:00 pm
carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:NJ73 wrote:carlccfc wrote:You have obviously missed my response to that article at an earlier date.
I have said that the article is in part correct but not 100% correct.
Deal by the end of July, correct.
£10million instead of the £15million capital, correct.
But other parts of the deal were missing.
Right so for clarification purposes, did Wales Online not fully quote your mate or did he not mention the extra add ons that you are now claiming?
Ask my mate.
What I can tell you is I spoke to two of the Echo journalists the night before the article was run and told them that it was not a factually correct piece and this would be a misleading article.
I'm asking you as he's not online and you give the impression that you know the answer as I'm sure the two of you have conversed regarding it. It's a straightforward question.
And I gave you a straightforward answer, ask Annis.
I have told you the article was not factually correct, which is important considering many believe Sam would accept £10million and that would be final.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:05 pm
carlccfc wrote:CHRIS PIKE wrote:carlccfc wrote:CHRIS PIKE wrote:carlccfc wrote:Merlin wrote:What has it got to do with Sam, what Vt does with his money?
Craig when a man is ready to deal at £15million on a debt that currently stands at £37million and is making a personal sacrifice and taking a financial hit for the benefit of the club, Sam will deal if VT carries out his promise of turning his loans into equity.
Very much like those of us who accept the rebranding because of he promise of a debt free club but we are not sacrificing millions of pounds are we?
Personal Sacrifice Carl ? you have stated on here Sam is NOT Langston. So how is it a Personal sacrifice
Sam is not Langston.
Langston will get their money.
you said a personal Sacrifice Carl . how is it personal if he's not Langston ????
I did indeed.
Langston will get their money.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:10 pm