Cardiff City FC Playing At The Millennium Stadium?

Bumped this, now we are in the position we happily are in would we fill it for a really big game? Not Jacks as the police would not allow but maybe manure?

Like f**k do I want to sit in the millenium stadium to watch any Cardiff city home game just so some twats can go and watch Wayne Rooney

Bumped this, now we are in the position we happily are in would we fill it for a really big game? Not Jacks as the police would not allow but maybe manure?

NO NO NO CCS is our stadium, not the egg chasers

Bumped this, now we are in the position we happily are in would we fill it for a really big game? Not Jacks as the police would not allow but maybe manure?

London clubs don't switch their big games to wembley, so why would we switch big games to the millennium stadium.

First of all congratulations at joining the biggest league in the world, although I'm not so sure if its the best.

I think the rules state that a club has to play all of its home games at the same stadium. Only under exceptional circumstances are clubs allowed to change venue during the season. Exceptional circumstances would be things like a stadium fire or severe structural problems, not a "big game". Would you want to play there anyhow, surely its better to play in a full to capacity CCS, rather than a half full MS.

Whether people will admit it or not we'd almost fill the MS easily in a derby game.

Both us and the Jacks can get the numbers required for Wembley so why not the MS? The derby is a massive game and if it were played at the MS both sets of fans would be pumped up for it. Drop ticket prices and fans will turn out in absolute force.

Anyone suggesting the league wont allow it is deluded. The league run on money and having a televised south wales derby at the MS would be Sky's wet dream.

If it were to happen the biggest issues would be policing the town centre and costs there, nothing else.

Swansea City would bring 32,000 to the capital easy for such an event. We would get the extra fans easily.

However I fear it will never happen due to policing issues and costs.

Whether people will admit it or not we'd almost fill the MS easily in a derby game.

Both us and the Jacks can get the numbers required for Wembley so why not the MS? The derby is a massive game and if it were played at the MS both sets of fans would be pumped up for it. Drop ticket prices and fans will turn out in absolute force.

Anyone suggesting the league wont allow it is deluded. The league run on money and having a televised south wales derby at the MS would be Sky's wet dream.

If it were to happen the biggest issues would be policing the town centre and costs there, nothing else.

Swansea City would bring 32,000 to the capital easy for such an event. We would get the extra fans easily.

However I fear it will never happen due to policing issues and costs.

It's Cardiff's home game - I wouldn't want 32k of the Gypos there. It would be like a neutral game otherwise.

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You can't fill the one you're using now !

In the 3 seasons you were in the championship you averaged 15,366.

In the same 3 seasons (inc ninian park) our average attendance was 20651.

Its a shame that premier league status is what it took to get you close to your capacity. Does that means 5,000 more rugby fans must be scattered around your ground on matchday!!

Actually during our first three seasons in the championship we averaged 13,412 including an 11,720 average attendance in the third season.

We have now been in the championship for 10 years and our average attendance is, 17,667. That's is with a decade to build our fan base, ticket scams, price freezes, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals.

So it works out that on average we had about 2,250 more fans at our matches than the jacks had. However if we take our respective first 3 seasons at that level then the jacks had about 2000 more at their matches than we did.

It's all much of a muchness and very similar.

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You can't fill the one you're using now !

In the 3 seasons you were in the championship you averaged 15,366.

In the same 3 seasons (inc ninian park) our average attendance was 20651.

Its a shame that premier league status is what it took to get you close to your capacity. Does that means 5,000 more rugby fans must be scattered around your ground on matchday!!

Actually during our first three seasons in the championship we averaged 13,412 including an 11,720 average attendance in the third season.

We have now been in the championship for 10 years and our average attendance is, 17,667. That's is with a decade to build our fan base, ticket scams, price freezes, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals.

So it works out that on average we had about 2,250 more fans at our matches than the jacks had. However if we take our respective first 3 seasons at that level then the jacks had about 2000 more at their matches than we did.

It's all much of a muchness and very similar.

It's also necessary to add that Swansea had the Liability Stadium during that time and it is proven that new stadia add to the attendance. So it's hardly a fair & balanced point.

It's also necessary to add that Swansea had the Liability Stadium during that time and it is proven that new stadia add to the attendance. So it's hardly a fair & balanced point.

It's just as balanced as comparing Swansea's first 3 seasons at championship level to our 8th,9th and 10th.

The fact is ninian park was still bigger than what the liberty is.

I agree.

It's not the capacity that makes a new ground give a bigger attendance. It's the atmosphere, better food kiosks, ambience, better facilities. Families are far more likely to come to football at CCS than Ninian Park - because it isn't a dump.

This has been proven throughout the country.

So it's just as unbalanced to use your arguement.

its against UEFA regulations and FA regulations to move a game for financial reasons. you must be able to demonstrate a Health and safety risk, but the millenium for a derby game would be a risk! imagine a bubble game with 35000 fans. not to mention the ones who came down without a ticket. in short, its a shit idea.

I agree.

It's not the capacity that makes a new ground give a bigger attendance. It's the atmosphere, better food kiosks, ambience, better facilities. Families are far more likely to come to football at CCS than Ninian Park - because it isn't a dump.

This has been proven throughout the country.

So it's just as unbalanced to use your arguement.

But then on the other hand people who liked the previous atmospheres decide not to attend. It's all relative. Attendance increases are due to many many things, not just a new stadium. Swansea didnt have the price freezes, the ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals to build their attendances on so it all equals out.

All discussion on this isn't going to be entirely accurate as no scenario is identical.

It's also necessary to add that Swansea had the Liability Stadium during that time and it is proven that new stadia add to the attendance. So it's hardly a fair & balanced point.

It's just as balanced as comparing Swansea's first 3 seasons at championship level to our 8th,9th and 10th.

The fact is ninian park was still bigger than what the liberty is.

No, ninian park weren't bigger then the liberty. Might be about the same capacity, but it weren't bigger.

I agree.

It's not the capacity that makes a new ground give a bigger attendance. It's the atmosphere, better food kiosks, ambience, better facilities. Families are far more likely to come to football at CCS than Ninian Park - because it isn't a dump.

This has been proven throughout the country.

So it's just as unbalanced to use your arguement.

But then on the other hand people who liked the previous atmospheres decide not to attend. It's all relative. Attendance increases are due to many many things, not just a new stadium. Swansea didnt have the price freezes, the ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals and play off finals to build their attendances on so it all equals out.

All discussion on this isn't going to be entirely accurate as no scenario is identical.

Rubbish. I've never known any fan to stop going because the club has a new stadium.

You like dealing in facts, so the fairest comparison is same league, same year, new stadia, both going for promotion. Swansea 15k & Cardiff 23k.

It's also necessary to add that Swansea had the Liability Stadium during that time and it is proven that new stadia add to the attendance. So it's hardly a fair & balanced point.

It's just as balanced as comparing Swansea's first 3 seasons at championship level to our 8th,9th and 10th.

The fact is ninian park was still bigger than what the liberty is.

No, ninian park weren't bigger then the liberty. Might be about the same capacity, but it weren't bigger.

Ninian parks capacity was 21,508

The libertys capacity is 20,750.

Rubbish. I've never known any fan to stop going because the club has a new stadium.

You like dealing in facts, so the fairest comparison is same league, same year, new stadia, both going for promotion. Swansea 15k & Cardiff 23k.

You said people go to the games because its a friendlier atmosphere. Some have left because of it, ill find you some posts now from people saying they are leaving because they aren't enjoying the football or the atmosphere.

However I later said a list of other things that boosted out attendance that Swansea didnt have so it doesn't really matter, it's much of a muchness.

As for the facts, you disputed my facts as unbalanced yet say that stuff? We had 10 years to build our 23k attendance on the back of ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals, play off finals and price freezes. Swansea got promoted after being at that level for 2 previous seasons, it hardly a fair comparison as I showed you, we averaged 11k in our third do season while they averaged nearly 16k.

Rubbish. I've never known any fan to stop going because the club has a new stadium.

You like dealing in facts, so the fairest comparison is same league, same year, new stadia, both going for promotion. Swansea 15k & Cardiff 23k.

You said people go to the games because its a friendlier atmosphere. Some have left because of it, ill find you some posts now from people saying they are leaving because they aren't enjoying the football or the atmosphere.

However I later said a list of other things that boosted out attendance that Swansea didnt have so it doesn't really matter, it's much of a muchness.

As for the facts, you disputed my facts as unbalanced yet say that stuff? We had 10 years to build our 23k attendance on the back of ticket scams, £10 season tickets, cup finals, play off finals and price freezes. Swansea got promoted after being at that level for 2 previous seasons, it hardly a fair comparison as I showed you, we averaged 11k in our third do season while they averaged nearly 16k.

Just as unbalanced as your facts - tailored to suit your agenda. So I just reversed it. It's quite easy to build facts to suit your argument.

Aren't enjoying the football? That's nothing to do with a new ground.

I'm not going to reply, as your agenda is quite obvious.

Thankyou for bumping this load of shite again it was one of my all time favourites , I was on fire in this thread , bantering fire !!!!!!!

Just as unbalanced as your facts - tailored to suit your agenda. So I just reversed it. It's quite easy to build facts to suit your argument.

Aren't enjoying the football? That's nothing to do with a new ground.

I'm not going to reply, as your agenda is quite obvious.

Exactly so that's a bit hypocritical of you isn't it. If your opinion is that unbalanced views aren't good then don't have them, simple.

The fact is mine was balanced. By comparing Cardiffs 10th season with all the variables to boost it to that level and then use Swansea's 3rd season who had none of the variables available to them is very misleading.

My opinion was actually as balanced as you can get on what is a very unbalanced topic. the things that boosted Cardiffs attendance was offset by the old stadium - So as I said there is very little in it.

My agenda is to bring a more balanced view than the simple "we averaged 23k when you averaged 15k) as anyone with half a brain will tell you that's as irrelevant to the point and as useless as a chocolate spoon.

Very little in it at all.

(Also Nice selective quoting there chuckles, you really are going backwards at a rate of knots in terms of quality of post. It's a shame. After "not enjoying the football" was "or the atmosphere".)

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Wasn't balanced.

Wasn't balanced.

Offsetting the new fans entering the stadium as its new against the fans entering the stadium because of all the scams, price freezes, cup finals, play off finals and £10 season tickets which swansea didnt have is definately as balanced as you can get on a non balanced topic.

Counting Cardiffs 10 years and all the variables it took to build the attendance to what it is - against Swansea's 3 years with none of those variables is probably the most unbalanced of all the unbalanced answers.

Wasn't balanced.

Offsetting the new fans entering the stadium as its new against the fans entering the stadium because of all the scams, price freezes, cup finals, play off finals and £10 season tickets which swansea didnt have is definately as balanced as you can get on a non balanced topic.

Counting Cardiffs 10 years and all the variables it took to build the attendance to what it is - against Swansea's 3 years with none of those variables is probably the most unbalanced of all the unbalanced answers.

Still wasn't balanced. why do you post your opinion as if it's correct and factual?

Had enough now. A quick look at the attendance figures is all you need to look at.

Wasn't balanced.

Offsetting the new fans entering the stadium as its new against the fans entering the stadium because of all the scams, price freezes, cup finals, play off finals and £10 season tickets which swansea didnt have is definately as balanced as you can get on a non balanced topic.

Counting Cardiffs 10 years and all the variables it took to build the attendance to what it is - against Swansea's 3 years with none of those variables is probably the most unbalanced of all the unbalanced answers.

Still wasn't balanced. why do you post your opinion as if it's correct and factual?

Had enough now. A quick look at the attendance figures is all you need to look at.

It isn't an opinion, I'm just stating facts and figures. But all of them not just one season unlike what was done by you.

It is the most balanced view on the comparable attendances. I've already pointed out its a very unbalanced topic, I didnt bring it up remember, just adding the most balanced viewpoint on the subject.

The attendance figures say at the same point in both clubs respective championship campaigns, Swansea averaged nearly 2000 more than Cardiff. However of we take into consideration the whole 10 year stint including all the wembley appearances, price freezes, scams etc and pit it against Swansea's 3 years who also had none of those things then we averaged 2,500 more...

Much of a muchness.

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Totally avoiding the point that I made about stadia, as it doesn't suit your agenda. Showing your posts to be the most unbalanced on this subject.

Totally avoiding the point that I made about stadia, as it doesn't suit your agenda. Showing your posts to be the most unbalanced on this subject.

I didnt ignore it at all, in fact I responded every single time. I just said that the increase in attendance brought on by the new stadia was offset by the other variables that boosted the attendance that Swansea didnt have. Surely I don't have to list them again?

Wouldn't want us to play there. Our ground is good enough. If it wasn't then why would the Super Cup be being play at the CCS next year?

Wouldn't want us to play there. Our ground is good enough. If it wasn't then why would the Super Cup be being play at the CCS next year?

so when we win the europa cup next season we won't have to travel far

No, its a rugby stadium and the home of the welsh rugby team. Even the welsh football team are out of place there. Twikenham and Wembley are separate for a reason.

I would like to see Cardiff City trial at least 2 or 3 premiership games there next year just to see how many of our fans would attend. Im sure our ground at 27500 will be too small next season.
It could be awesone seeing 60000 - 70000 at the Millenium stadium especially if we played the top teams.
It could also increase our fan base massively.

It's also necessary to add that Swansea had the Liability Stadium during that time and it is proven that new stadia add to the attendance. So it's hardly a fair & balanced point.

It's just as balanced as comparing Swansea's first 3 seasons at championship level to our 8th,9th and 10th.

The fact is ninian park was still bigger than what the liberty is.

No, ninian park weren't bigger then the liberty. Might be about the same capacity, but it weren't bigger.

Ninian parks capacity was 21,508

The libertys capacity is 20,750.

Without segregation ninian park held 20,000. When we played Leeds in 2002 there was 22,000 there but after that it was reduced to 20,000. Don't bother arguing, your just a jack who knows shit.