" RIP THE SOUL OF CARDIFF CITY "

Stan cheers for your support and many others from other clubs, I still can't believe our fans have sold out. Years ago this would never have happened, it's really a sad time for Cardiff City.

They should have let us go bust after the playoff final defeat 2 years ago. Why waste 40 million? Turn it into equity is it? Debt free too....we don't deserve it.

A reflection of so called modern football. Could man city operate with their wage bill without the Arab cash? Doubt it. Do they deserve it? It's a case of if you can't beat them, join them.

Rubbish. They have managed to retain their identity and have had some success, we have just sold out our identity.

They bought success. The point was about modern football and what it leads to, like our situation. So if you got off your high horse for a second you will see that it wasn't praising our move but maybe trying to explain it

Rubbish again. They may have bought success but it was not at the expence of a colour or badge change so its not a reflection of modern football at all.

Stan cheers for your support and many others from other clubs, I still can't believe our fans have sold out. Years ago this would never have happened, it's really a sad time for Cardiff City.

They should have let us go bust after the playoff final defeat 2 years ago. Why waste 40 million? Turn it into equity is it? Debt free too....we don't deserve it.

A reflection of so called modern football. Could man city operate with their wage bill without the Arab cash? Doubt it. Do they deserve it? It's a case of if you can't beat them, join them.

Rubbish. They have managed to retain their identity and have had some success, we have just sold out our identity.

They bought success. The point was about modern football and what it leads to, like our situation. So if you got off your high horse for a second you will see that it wasn't praising our move but maybe trying to explain it

Rubbish again. They may have bought success but it was not at the expence of a colour or badge change so its not a reflection of modern football at all.

So an Arab pumping a billion pound into a football club taking them from mediocrity to champions is not a sign of modern football where miney rules and business comes first?

They are still playing in blue, still have the same badge and identity and have success. We have none of those things yet have sold out everything.

They are still playing in blue, still have the same badge and identity and have success. We have none of those things yet have sold out everything.

True but the point is success today usually comes at a price. In our case the investors wanted the change and money talks in this age. Call it a sell out if you want but why slag off fellow fans when they were not involved in the decision at any stage.

They are still playing in blue, still have the same badge and identity and have success. We have none of those things yet have sold out everything.

True but the point is success today usually comes at a price. In our case the investors wanted the change and money talks in this age. Call it a sell out if you want but why slag off fellow fans when they were not involved in the decision at any stage.

Success does not come with a price. Man City still have not sold out. Chelsea sill have not sold out. All these clubs have retained their colours and dignity and still had success. We have nothing but have sold everything.

They are still playing in blue, still have the same badge and identity and have success. We have none of those things yet have sold out everything.

True but the point is success today usually comes at a price. In our case the investors wanted the change and money talks in this age. Call it a sell out if you want but why slag off fellow fans when they were not involved in the decision at any stage.

Success does not come with a price. Man City still have not sold out. Chelsea sill have not sold out. All these clubs have retained their colours and dignity and still had success. We have nothing but have sold everything.

Again the point is they would not have done it without big backers. It's just that ours wants the change. I don't believe we have sold everything. Still Cardiff city, still the bluebirds, still play at the CCS. The kit is something that could well change back easy enough but nothing will be achieved by in fighting and slagging each other off.

Are you still going to support Cardiff city?

They are still playing in blue, still have the same badge and identity and have success. We have none of those things yet have sold out everything.

True but the point is success today usually comes at a price. In our case the investors wanted the change and money talks in this age. Call it a sell out if you want but why slag off fellow fans when they were not involved in the decision at any stage.

Success does not come with a price. Man City still have not sold out. Chelsea sill have not sold out. All these clubs have retained their colours and dignity and still had success. We have nothing but have sold everything.

Again the point is they would not have done it without big backers. It's just that ours wants the change. I don't believe we have sold everything. Still Cardiff city, still the bluebirds, still play at the CCS. The kit is something that could well change back easy enough but nothing will be achieved by in fighting and slagging each other off.

Are you still going to support Cardiff city?

I will always support Cardiff but I will not support the Berjaya Group.

They are still playing in blue, still have the same badge and identity and have success. We have none of those things yet have sold out everything.

True but the point is success today usually comes at a price. In our case the investors wanted the change and money talks in this age. Call it a sell out if you want but why slag off fellow fans when they were not involved in the decision at any stage.

Success does not come with a price. Man City still have not sold out. Chelsea sill have not sold out. All these clubs have retained their colours and dignity and still had success. We have nothing but have sold everything.

Again the point is they would not have done it without big backers. It's just that ours wants the change. I don't believe we have sold everything. Still Cardiff city, still the bluebirds, still play at the CCS. The kit is something that could well change back easy enough but nothing will be achieved by in fighting and slagging each other off.

Are you still going to support Cardiff city?

I will always support Cardiff but I will not support the Berjaya Group.

So you'll be attending the games next season?

Off now fella. Interesting points but I hope you'll be there next season even if it's under protest! History will be the judge of the decisions made and I truly believe one day we will be back in blue but hopefully in a strong and stable financial and league position.

Good debate.

Quick question.

If you were to get promoted next season playing in a red kit, new badge, red seats etc will the Malaysians be vindicated in there decision & would those vehemently opposed to the changes happily celebrate the success & also acknowledge the decision made was the right one for CCFC?

Obviously you may not go up & that imo would cause massive problems for the owners but if you did please answer above question.

Thanks.

Stan.

Continue to wear blue, that's what you have to do.

Well that and not buy any red merchandise, and come up with a brilliant song that will reverberate across Cardiff and the whole of Wales

Continue to wear blue, that's what you have to do.

Well that and not buy any red merchandise, and come up with a brilliant song that will reverberate across Cardiff and the whole of Wales

cheers for the advise LFC. But sadly the closet man ure fans on here will soon be giving you some abuse.

Good debate.

Quick question.

If you were to get promoted next season playing in a red kit, new badge, red seats etc will the Malaysians be vindicated in there decision & would those vehemently opposed to the changes happily celebrate the success & also acknowledge the decision made was the right one for CCFC?

Obviously you may not go up & that imo would cause massive problems for the owners but if you did please answer above question.

Thanks.

Stan.

No. I'd rather be relegated in Blue than promoted as a Red ( with black wash) Dragon.

Guys, I will say, I am hurting for you. Over the last couple of years I have been a frequent visitor to this splendid, passionate and definitely well informed site and appreciated the camaraderie along with the support most gave during our own turbulent time with the Faurlingate affair.

Just read the news this morning on BBC and to be frank it is only what I expected, we had the same with Briatore, he wanted everyone to back him or he would threaten to take his investment away and let the club die, and god knows how many times we were told that he saved us from bankruptcy. But this is what super rich owners can be like, if they don't get their way they threaten to throw their toys out of the pram. And your Malaysians are no different. One word can describe them and that is BULLIES. Sadly most will fall for their tactics but the fact is that you can make a stand. Stop buying the season tickets, don't buy the shirts, protest. 25,000 Cardiff City supporters will have more clout than a bunch of Malaysians who will try and sell your club in the Malaysian markets (still mainly supporting Liverpool, ManUre, Chel*** (blue kit, doesn't do them any harm), Arsenal etc.

Cardiff City will always be Cardiff City, of they think that the club can compete with the likes of the above then they really are deluded, at best what would beckon is a team in the mid to lower half of the PL, and believe me it will cost them much more than £1million a month to cover losses then.

For me, today the real Cardiff City has died and has been replaced by an imposter. God rest the soul of Cardiff City.

I think you will find all the fans the Family's S/T holders old and new Old fans and New fans are the soul of the Club and i am certain you would not be welcome in speaking on there behalf but i have the impression you are just speacking for a miniscule of the fans

Good debate.

Quick question.

If you were to get promoted next season playing in a red kit, new badge, red seats etc will the Malaysians be vindicated in there decision & would those vehemently opposed to the changes happily celebrate the success & also acknowledge the decision made was the right one for CCFC?

Obviously you may not go up & that imo would cause massive problems for the owners but if you did please answer above question.

Thanks.

Stan.

No. I'd rather be relegated in Blue than promoted as a Red ( with black wash) Dragon.

Will you be going to watch city anymore then?

Good debate.

Quick question.

If you were to get promoted next season playing in a red kit, new badge, red seats etc will the Malaysians be vindicated in there decision & would those vehemently opposed to the changes happily celebrate the success & also acknowledge the decision made was the right one for CCFC?

Obviously you may not go up & that imo would cause massive problems for the owners but if you did please answer above question.

Thanks.

Stan.

No. I'd rather be relegated in Blue than promoted as a Red ( with black wash) Dragon.

Will you be going to watch city anymore then?

How many times do you want me to answer the same question!?
I've already told you, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

I have no respect for anyone that supports what has happened, each to your own though... go empty your bank balances on helping the soul of Cardiff City FC die quicker...

http://bigtakeovercc.wordpress.com/2012 ... club-died/

Good debate.

Quick question.

If you were to get promoted next season playing in a red kit, new badge, red seats etc will the Malaysians be vindicated in there decision & would those vehemently opposed to the changes happily celebrate the success & also acknowledge the decision made was the right one for CCFC?

Obviously you may not go up & that imo would cause massive problems for the owners but if you did please answer above question.

Thanks.

Stan.

No. I'd rather be relegated in Blue than promoted as a Red ( with black wash) Dragon.

Will you be going to watch city anymore then?

How many times do you want me to answer the same question!?
I've already told you, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

My apologies I wasnt aware you had answered. Seemed like you had made you mind up but I'm glad your still in the game

Mcmurdo

thanks for the link mate

Great Blog and heartwarming comments from all over europe

CCFC
Blue Brigade

Good debate.

Quick question.

If you were to get promoted next season playing in a red kit, new badge, red seats etc will the Malaysians be vindicated in there decision & would those vehemently opposed to the changes happily celebrate the success & also acknowledge the decision made was the right one for CCFC?

Obviously you may not go up & that imo would cause massive problems for the owners but if you did please answer above question.

Thanks.

Stan.

Very difficult to answer Stan at the moment.

For me the possibility of all these big signings starting with us this season therefore making us one of the favourites to go up means absolutely nothing. No excitement there about the whole thing altogether.

Indeed if we are forced to play in red and dont go up it will cause a massive problem for the owners. However it wont be as a big problem as when the marketing red idea does not take off in China. From what I am reading from the top economical guys this will not work and you can well believe it.

I have no respect for anyone that supports what has happened, each to your own though... go empty your bank balances on helping the soul of Cardiff City FC die quicker...

http://bigtakeovercc.wordpress.com/2012 ... club-died/

The world keeps turning and modern football will continue to evolve due to global interest and the money involved. Are Cardiff city able to stop or reverse these developments on their own when its a global game? I cant say i like it but recognise that you either embrace change and move with the times or whither away. Shame you'll be throwing in the towel in terms of supporting the club but it's your view so good luck to you in your search for utopian football

Mcmurdo

thanks for the link mate

Great Blog and heartwarming comments from all over europe

CCFC
Blue Brigade

Thank you, did 5,500 hits since Wednesday night in 39 countries on 50+ fans messageboards. Didn't quite expect that, seems the european fans are more passionate about this whole shaming affair than half our fanbase. Which is just sad, really.

I have no respect for anyone that supports what has happened, each to your own though... go empty your bank balances on helping the soul of Cardiff City FC die quicker...

http://bigtakeovercc.wordpress.com/2012 ... club-died/

The world keeps turning and modern football will continue to evolve due to global interest and the money involved. Are Cardiff city able to stop or reverse these developments on their own when its a global game? I cant say i like it but recognise that you either embrace change and move with the times or whither away. Shame you'll be throwing in the towel in terms of supporting the club but it's your view so good luck to you in your search for utopian football

I don't want to throw in the towel, and I don't want utopian football as you put it. I'd just rather give up now than see my club manifest into the new MK Dons of British Football. I have principles that go beyond a Malaysian losing however many millions of quids.

Mcmurdo

thanks for the link mate

Great Blog and heartwarming comments from all over europe

CCFC
Blue Brigade

Thank you, did 5,500 hits since Wednesday night in 39 countries on 50+ fans messageboards. Didn't quite expect that, seems the european fans are more passionate about this whole shaming affair than half our fanbase. Which is just sad, really.

So an average of about 150 per country. Hardly revolutionary.

It had 12 a day before that...

I got a message out, im happy, you crumbled, did nothing and are now a fan of the big gay red dragons. Criticising people who have held a tiny bit of integrity in all this on messageboards. Enjoy it mate! ....or is the Ayatollah not Malaysian enough now either?

It had 12 a day before that...

I got a message out, im happy, you crumbled, did nothing and are now a fan of the big gay red dragons. Criticising people who have held a tiny bit of integrity in all this on messageboards. Enjoy it mate! ....or is the Ayatollah not Malaysian enough now either?

Well done keyboard warrior. How did i crumble? I cant remember making the decision or being involved in any consultation. I must admit I took as you a serious poster but what's this "big gay red dragon" comment. Let yourself down there fella as its a tad childish to say the least. I am a fan of Cardiff city, my team, are the bluebirds. Oh and if you don't give respect you want get much either

I have no respect for anyone that supports what has happened, each to your own though... go empty your bank balances on helping the soul of Cardiff City FC die quicker...

http://bigtakeovercc.wordpress.com/2012 ... club-died/

What a prat...

I'm not looking for respect, and im no keyboard warrior. I just had an opinion, thought I'd share and I fully expect to get shot down by half the people on here.. Wasn't going to bother at all, but I quite liked what that QPR lad said. The red dragons comment you can keep, because whilst it all truly saddens me to see it happen to our club, it's also such a laughable attempt at marketing too. Vile. Not my club. etc.

I'm not looking for respect, and im no keyboard warrior. I just had an opinion, thought I'd share and I fully expect to get shot down by half the people on here.. Wasn't going to bother at all, but I quite liked what that QPR lad said. The red dragons comment you can keep, because whilst it all truly saddens me to see it happen to our club, it's also such a laughable attempt at marketing too. Vile. Not my club. etc.

Grow up

Good debate.

Quick question.

If you were to get promoted next season playing in a red kit, new badge, red seats etc will the Malaysians be vindicated in there decision & would those vehemently opposed to the changes happily celebrate the success & also acknowledge the decision made was the right one for CCFC?

Obviously you may not go up & that imo would cause massive problems for the owners but if you did please answer above question.

Thanks.

Stan.

Stan, hope your well.

What annoys me, and your post is a very good one. The rebrand may bring nothing, the players might break under the pressure and stare relegation in the face, nobody knows. But on the other side, we might be champions by March. It's a serious risk they are taking, however when the financial rules come into place, I think a lot of clubs will follow suit or go bang.

What annoys me is the so called true fans wanting bad results to be a reality just to prove a point.

Really sad.