Tue May 22, 2012 1:29 pm
welshcitydragon wrote:Chip shop Alley wrote:welshcitydragon wrote:Chip shop Alley wrote:Worst Flag thread EVER!
Welsh Flag Is Fantastic, looks "sexy as" on the misses too!
Union Jack Represents Unity, I respect that notion, so should everybody else!
"Haters be hating"
The world according to YOU IS IT ! cos you do we all must ? , something wrong with you , the jack represents unity ? how can that be when ( Thank god ) the Welsh flag is not on there ? thats what you call unity is it ? They say its the flag of the UK but Wales is not on it , it takes someone with only 2 brain cells to know thats not unity. But thank god Wales is not on that Butchers appron.
Get a grip will you, the red in the union jack symbolises Wales and everything great about Wales. You got issues. Get out more you troll.
GO eat your chips boy, the red on the jack flag is the cross of saint George , the red is nothing to do with Wales. Go read your history , or get some one to read it to you !
Tue May 22, 2012 2:10 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 2:19 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 2:36 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 2:47 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 2:55 pm
BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There was no need to bring up Aberfan into this, your just point scoring and using a tragedy like that to your advantage. The Queen can't be expected to travel everywhere there has been a disaster. What a way to show your class![]()
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Very interesting you bring up the flooding of WELSH SPEAKING villagers to give water to Liverpool rather than the ENGLISH SPEAKING villages of the Elan valley that was flooded to give Birmingham water. That's the problem with you nationalists, only looking after those who speak the language.
I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.
I digress but please stop spouting your foul views on here, the Union Jack is good enough for most and like I said you could face REAL supression.![]()
Your exactly the type of person the real people of Wales f*cking despise. You sound like a scouser, Poor me poor me poor me.![]()
Actually the Elan Valley was a Welsh language community, just like Tryweryn, just like the farmers of Epynt who were forced to give their lands to the crown. Aberfan, Tonypandy, Merthyr, Newport I could go on the list is endless all results of the exploitation of our country. Your quite right in a way that many people 'don't give a shit about the language' just like many people don't care about the jack flying in Wales. this really just shows how good a job they've done in breeding colonial mindset in our people. Wake up, learn your history, what has been done and is still been done to our country.
Tue May 22, 2012 4:24 pm
OhhhGa wrote:Thats briliant , My son and daughter goes to Welsh School and there doing great. I never had the chance to learn Welsh in school, as I could only have German or French, so every Tuesday I would stand outside my class room and later had the stick twice cos I refused to learn German or French till they would teach me Welsh.
Thanks, Welsh schools are great for promoting the language and I honestly believe there should be far more than there is at present. Exactly, there are definitely people who want to learn the language and there always has been
Tue May 22, 2012 5:02 pm
CjBluebird17 wrote:OhhhGa wrote:Thats briliant , My son and daughter goes to Welsh School and there doing great. I never had the chance to learn Welsh in school, as I could only have German or French, so every Tuesday I would stand outside my class room and later had the stick twice cos I refused to learn German or French till they would teach me Welsh.
Thanks, Welsh schools are great for promoting the language and I honestly believe there should be far more than there is at present. Exactly, there are definitely people who want to learn the language and there always has been
Theres already enough get far more money than english speaking schools thank you. Thanks to our Welsh assembly most welsh speaking schools get far more funding than english speaking schools. And if you say welsh schools are so great they dont exactlly do as well as english speaking schools
Tue May 22, 2012 5:03 pm
BlueGog wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:OhhhGa wrote:Thats briliant , My son and daughter goes to Welsh School and there doing great. I never had the chance to learn Welsh in school, as I could only have German or French, so every Tuesday I would stand outside my class room and later had the stick twice cos I refused to learn German or French till they would teach me Welsh.
Thanks, Welsh schools are great for promoting the language and I honestly believe there should be far more than there is at present. Exactly, there are definitely people who want to learn the language and there always has been
Theres already enough get far more money than english speaking schools thank you. Thanks to our Welsh assembly most welsh speaking schools get far more funding than english speaking schools. And if you say welsh schools are so great they dont exactlly do as well as english speaking schools
Do you really believe that Welsh language schools get more funding than bi-lingual/English schools!!! I can't believe what I'm reading! They get exactly the same per head dependent on Local Authorities, Governors and parents would not stand for anything else and rightly so. They possibly make better use of the money they get and remember they have another subject to teach!!!
Tue May 22, 2012 5:07 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There was no need to bring up Aberfan into this, your just point scoring and using a tragedy like that to your advantage. The Queen can't be expected to travel everywhere there has been a disaster. What a way to show your class![]()
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Very interesting you bring up the flooding of WELSH SPEAKING villagers to give water to Liverpool rather than the ENGLISH SPEAKING villages of the Elan valley that was flooded to give Birmingham water. That's the problem with you nationalists, only looking after those who speak the language.
I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.
I digress but please stop spouting your foul views on here, the Union Jack is good enough for most and like I said you could face REAL supression.![]()
Your exactly the type of person the real people of Wales f*cking despise. You sound like a scouser, Poor me poor me poor me.![]()
Actually the Elan Valley was a Welsh language community, just like Tryweryn, just like the farmers of Epynt who were forced to give their lands to the crown. Aberfan, Tonypandy, Merthyr, Newport I could go on the list is endless all results of the exploitation of our country. Your quite right in a way that many people 'don't give a shit about the language' just like many people don't care about the jack flying in Wales. this really just shows how good a job they've done in breeding colonial mindset in our people. Wake up, learn your history, what has been done and is still been done to our country.
Colonial mindset, iv'e heard it all now. Your a f*cking wew. This "WE ARE WELSH f**k BRITAIN" attitude is what's slowing this country down, we would be in the shit if we weren't part of Britain.
The language died out around Rhayader/Newtown/Llandod around 1850 FACT. The Elan Valley was flooded a full 100 years later FACT. The people of Rhayader and the communities surrounding it were asked if they wanted the water, they said no so it went to Birmingham FACT.
Learn your history, this country will never be independent and I hope it f*cking stays that way. I am a proud Welshmen but i'm equally proud to be British, you don't get this nationalist bullshit in America with all the different states, they are proud Americans and also proud to be from the state they live in. People who want independence are just insecure about there welshness, WALES DOES NOT HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT FOR YOU TO BE PROUD OF YOUR HERITAGE.
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Tue May 22, 2012 5:08 pm
CjBluebird17 wrote:BlueGog wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:OhhhGa wrote:Thats briliant , My son and daughter goes to Welsh School and there doing great. I never had the chance to learn Welsh in school, as I could only have German or French, so every Tuesday I would stand outside my class room and later had the stick twice cos I refused to learn German or French till they would teach me Welsh.
Thanks, Welsh schools are great for promoting the language and I honestly believe there should be far more than there is at present. Exactly, there are definitely people who want to learn the language and there always has been
Theres already enough get far more money than english speaking schools thank you. Thanks to our Welsh assembly most welsh speaking schools get far more funding than english speaking schools. And if you say welsh schools are so great they dont exactlly do as well as english speaking schools
Do you really believe that Welsh language schools get more funding than bi-lingual/English schools!!! I can't believe what I'm reading! They get exactly the same per head dependent on Local Authorities, Governors and parents would not stand for anything else and rightly so. They possibly make better use of the money they get and remember they have another subject to teach!!!
Have you ever seen schools such as Ysgol Plasmawr who get a new bloody building every few weeks??? Compare that to schools in the valleys where they are learning in portacabins? then tell me that the funding is equal
Tue May 22, 2012 5:10 pm
BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There was no need to bring up Aberfan into this, your just point scoring and using a tragedy like that to your advantage. The Queen can't be expected to travel everywhere there has been a disaster. What a way to show your class![]()
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Very interesting you bring up the flooding of WELSH SPEAKING villagers to give water to Liverpool rather than the ENGLISH SPEAKING villages of the Elan valley that was flooded to give Birmingham water. That's the problem with you nationalists, only looking after those who speak the language.
I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.
I digress but please stop spouting your foul views on here, the Union Jack is good enough for most and like I said you could face REAL supression.![]()
Your exactly the type of person the real people of Wales f*cking despise. You sound like a scouser, Poor me poor me poor me.![]()
Actually the Elan Valley was a Welsh language community, just like Tryweryn, just like the farmers of Epynt who were forced to give their lands to the crown. Aberfan, Tonypandy, Merthyr, Newport I could go on the list is endless all results of the exploitation of our country. Your quite right in a way that many people 'don't give a shit about the language' just like many people don't care about the jack flying in Wales. this really just shows how good a job they've done in breeding colonial mindset in our people. Wake up, learn your history, what has been done and is still been done to our country.
Colonial mindset, iv'e heard it all now. Your a f*cking wew. This "WE ARE WELSH f**k BRITAIN" attitude is what's slowing this country down, we would be in the shit if we weren't part of Britain.
The language died out around Rhayader/Newtown/Llandod around 1850 FACT. The Elan Valley was flooded a full 100 years later FACT. The people of Rhayader and the communities surrounding it were asked if they wanted the water, they said no so it went to Birmingham FACT.
Learn your history, this country will never be independent and I hope it f*cking stays that way. I am a proud Welshmen but i'm equally proud to be British, you don't get this nationalist bullshit in America with all the different states, they are proud Americans and also proud to be from the state they live in. People who want independence are just insecure about there welshness, WALES DOES NOT HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT FOR YOU TO BE PROUD OF YOUR HERITAGE.
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So sad, you've been brainwashed by the colonialist propaganda thats still part of many of our fellow countrymen's mindset!
You're quite right about America though, but they're states not countries!!!
Oh and possibly the fact that they won a war of independence form English rule has something to do with it!!!!!!
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Tue May 22, 2012 5:59 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 5:59 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Stop living in the 1400s you silly fool.
Tue May 22, 2012 6:12 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 6:20 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote:It just doesn't make sense does it………..why fly a flag in your country when you're not on it!!??………………hope I don't see one, may just have to politely ask the person to remove it……..or there again I may just be tempted to remove it myself
Tue May 22, 2012 8:16 pm
CjBluebird17 wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There was no need to bring up Aberfan into this, your just point scoring and using a tragedy like that to your advantage. The Queen can't be expected to travel everywhere there has been a disaster. What a way to show your class![]()
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Very interesting you bring up the flooding of WELSH SPEAKING villagers to give water to Liverpool rather than the ENGLISH SPEAKING villages of the Elan valley that was flooded to give Birmingham water. That's the problem with you nationalists, only looking after those who speak the language.
I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.
I digress but please stop spouting your foul views on here, the Union Jack is good enough for most and like I said you could face REAL supression.![]()
Your exactly the type of person the real people of Wales f*cking despise. You sound like a scouser, Poor me poor me poor me.![]()
Actually the Elan Valley was a Welsh language community, just like Tryweryn, just like the farmers of Epynt who were forced to give their lands to the crown. Aberfan, Tonypandy, Merthyr, Newport I could go on the list is endless all results of the exploitation of our country. Your quite right in a way that many people 'don't give a shit about the language' just like many people don't care about the jack flying in Wales. this really just shows how good a job they've done in breeding colonial mindset in our people. Wake up, learn your history, what has been done and is still been done to our country.
Colonial mindset, iv'e heard it all now. Your a f*cking wew. This "WE ARE WELSH f**k BRITAIN" attitude is what's slowing this country down, we would be in the shit if we weren't part of Britain.
The language died out around Rhayader/Newtown/Llandod around 1850 FACT. The Elan Valley was flooded a full 100 years later FACT. The people of Rhayader and the communities surrounding it were asked if they wanted the water, they said no so it went to Birmingham FACT.
Learn your history, this country will never be independent and I hope it f*cking stays that way. I am a proud Welshmen but i'm equally proud to be British, you don't get this nationalist bullshit in America with all the different states, they are proud Americans and also proud to be from the state they live in. People who want independence are just insecure about there welshness, WALES DOES NOT HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT FOR YOU TO BE PROUD OF YOUR HERITAGE.
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So sad, you've been brainwashed by the colonialist propaganda thats still part of many of our fellow countrymen's mindset!
You're quite right about America though, but they're states not countries!!!
Oh and possibly the fact that they won a war of independence form English rule has something to do with it!!!!!!
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It also helps that they had alot of natural resources. I'd like to know how you think wales will be better off if we left the UK?
Tue May 22, 2012 8:19 pm
BlueGog wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There was no need to bring up Aberfan into this, your just point scoring and using a tragedy like that to your advantage. The Queen can't be expected to travel everywhere there has been a disaster. What a way to show your class![]()
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Very interesting you bring up the flooding of WELSH SPEAKING villagers to give water to Liverpool rather than the ENGLISH SPEAKING villages of the Elan valley that was flooded to give Birmingham water. That's the problem with you nationalists, only looking after those who speak the language.
I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.
I digress but please stop spouting your foul views on here, the Union Jack is good enough for most and like I said you could face REAL supression.![]()
Your exactly the type of person the real people of Wales f*cking despise. You sound like a scouser, Poor me poor me poor me.![]()
Actually the Elan Valley was a Welsh language community, just like Tryweryn, just like the farmers of Epynt who were forced to give their lands to the crown. Aberfan, Tonypandy, Merthyr, Newport I could go on the list is endless all results of the exploitation of our country. Your quite right in a way that many people 'don't give a shit about the language' just like many people don't care about the jack flying in Wales. this really just shows how good a job they've done in breeding colonial mindset in our people. Wake up, learn your history, what has been done and is still been done to our country.
Colonial mindset, iv'e heard it all now. Your a f*cking wew. This "WE ARE WELSH f**k BRITAIN" attitude is what's slowing this country down, we would be in the shit if we weren't part of Britain.
The language died out around Rhayader/Newtown/Llandod around 1850 FACT. The Elan Valley was flooded a full 100 years later FACT. The people of Rhayader and the communities surrounding it were asked if they wanted the water, they said no so it went to Birmingham FACT.
Learn your history, this country will never be independent and I hope it f*cking stays that way. I am a proud Welshmen but i'm equally proud to be British, you don't get this nationalist bullshit in America with all the different states, they are proud Americans and also proud to be from the state they live in. People who want independence are just insecure about there welshness, WALES DOES NOT HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT FOR YOU TO BE PROUD OF YOUR HERITAGE.
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So sad, you've been brainwashed by the colonialist propaganda thats still part of many of our fellow countrymen's mindset!
You're quite right about America though, but they're states not countries!!!
Oh and possibly the fact that they won a war of independence form English rule has something to do with it!!!!!!
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It also helps that they had alot of natural resources. I'd like to know how you think wales will be better off if we left the UK?
Just ask the people of say...Norway, similar population or Estonia, Latvia, Holland they seem to be doing ok. If we were independent our European money would double overnight.
Tue May 22, 2012 8:29 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 8:54 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:We can trade clogau gold and our water.... f**k me we have some imbeciles on here. Be happy to be part of a great country like Britain![]()
Tue May 22, 2012 9:06 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:We can trade clogau gold and our water.... f**k me we have some imbeciles on here. Be happy to be part of a great country like Britain![]()
Tue May 22, 2012 10:00 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 10:06 pm
tcblue wrote:The U.K as we know it will be dead within a decade. Good Riddance. The current arrangement is not benefiting anyone (Not even the English). The fact it is being defended by someone born during WW2 says it all. The best possible outcome for unionists is more devolution, eventually leading to home rule. Fact![]()
Tue May 22, 2012 10:23 pm
Besides its an excuse to have a summer party and the kids will enjoy themselves as much as i did last jubilee and thats what its all about
Tue May 22, 2012 10:25 pm
Tue May 22, 2012 10:34 pm
CjBluebird17 wrote:No one who is in favour of welsh independence has answered in how we are going to sustain an economy in wales if we split from the UK? I'm not a unionist or have any love for the queen but im realistic we as a country cant survive without being apart of the UK
Tue May 22, 2012 11:17 pm
Wed May 23, 2012 4:23 am
Mabonjack wrote:Welsh and Welsh only. The only flags that should be flown in Wales are Y ddraig goch and the flag of St David. As for the union jack or butchers apron as it is known in some quarters should be banned from all of Wales. It got f**k all to do with us Cymro's
Cymru am Byth
Wed May 23, 2012 9:05 am
Wed May 23, 2012 9:13 am
Blueboys1927 wrote:I am glad all of you lot who want Welsh independence were,nt around when the Nazi,s invaded half of europe in the late 1930,s, otherwise we would,nt have had a British army to repel the Nazi onslaught.
The British army are united under the Union Jack flag, always have been and always will be.
The Welsh Dragon is also a fantastic flag that every welshman should rightly be proud of.
Look on your passport you we are all British citizens.
I am British and Welsh and proud of it, and come from a Welsh speaking family, We are a United Kingdom.![]()
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