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Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:44 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Chargrilled Charlie wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Shirts.


What will tan gain from that then? Giving us money when he's trying to make some from us?


Why does he do it now?


He doesn't, they are loan notes. He has a legal right to the money back.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:45 pm

Yeah because he will get that back :lol:

Your funny if you don't think all clubs will find a loophole around this.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:46 pm

Chargrilled Charlie wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Won't happen,


and it wont happen because as usual you no best??? ffs :D :D


No, it won't happen because it doesn't make sense. Are you seriously suggesting tan is going to give us £20 million for us to break even every season?

It's stupid quite simply, and he'd be broke in 29 years.[/quote]


doesnt make sense to you maybe but have you asked him?? dont think so!! its only your assuption about things and nothing else! we all no the score so dont need you to tell us something we already know!!!

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:51 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Chargrilled Charlie wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Won't happen,


and it wont happen because as usual you no best??? ffs :D :D


No, it won't happen because it doesn't make sense. Are you seriously suggesting tan is going to give us £20 million for us to break even every season?

It's stupid quite simply, and he'd be broke in 29 years.



doesnt make sense to you maybe but have you asked him?? dont think so!! its only your assuption about things and nothing else! we all no the score so dont need you to tell us something we already know!!![/quote]


and to finsh on this conversation is being terminated with immediate effect! as its boreing as hell! :lol: :lol:

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:57 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:Allan, our "friend" is just boring now. Cactus growing. Paint drying. Etc Etc. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


yes silly how he thinks he can come back and nobody notices!!! :lol: :lol: leopard and all that!!! :lol: :lol:


Allan, our "friend" is just plain boring - the only attention he gets is probably here. Sad. Yawn.

Anyway, on a different note, its just announced that BBC's Question Time is from Swansea in a couple of weeks. Now that will be worth watching for the freak value. I imagine the "debate" will be dominated by the main issues that affect them: Benefits, minimum wage, lack of opportunity, poverty, being the UK homelessness "mecca" and of course their acute drug problem.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:58 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:well done Daya



God your thick.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:26 am

2blue2handle wrote:Yeah because he will get that back :lol:

Your funny if you don't think all clubs will find a loophole around this.


I'm absolutely sure some will. Profitable clubs that wish to spend their profits from the last previous year to sustain their challenge, or an owner like the man city chairman who doesn't care about profits, just wants to win things.

But equally I'm sure that tan or any other chairman with a club already losing then personally £20m per year in loan notes, won't do the same but as cash gifts.

What is he gaining?

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:50 am

CantonMagic wrote:Reading this board this morning and all im reading is:-

If we get the right investment from the Malaysians...
Malky will take us up if they give him what he needs to spend...
We will have a better chance to go up next season...
The Malaysians are paying off our debts so we cant complain...

Now sorry to be patronising with my underlining and emphasising but nobody seems to be taking it on board which is quite frankly baffling...

THE FINANACIAL FAIRPLAY RULES WILL BE COMING INTO PLAY FFS!!!!!!!!

1) Owners will only be allowed to invest £6 million (They are currently investing £12 million per annum just to meet running costs of the club). Meaning there will be no money to spend and we will have to find £6 million from somewhere to keep the club affloat. The year after investment is capped at £4 million (meaning we will have to find an extra £8 million) and then the season after £2 million (meaning we will have to find £10 million) - THIS WILL BE BEFORE MALKY GET ANYTHING TO SPEND.

2) Wage bills are to be capped to a certain % of our income. We will have to get rid of our top earners to satisfy this, so that means Whitts, Miller and Earnie will have to go. We will have no funds in place to replace them. You see the pattern here?

3) THE MALAYSIANS ARE NOT PAYING OUR DEBTS, THEY ARE ADDING TO THEM!! The Malaysians are NOT our owners with our best interests at heart. They are glorified loan sharks. They are basically covering what e owe elsewhere and transferring the debt to themselves while charging 7% interest!! WAKE UP!! It wasnt by pur chance they took on one of the most debt ridden clubs in the football league, it was THE reason they chose us. We are in a position that we cannot refuse their loans, and this them making money off our desperation. They are like those payday lenders, praying on the desperate.

4) Debt has risen from £40 million to £70 million in a few short years and is increasing at a rate of £1.2 million (+7%) EVERY MONTH.

5) IN SUMMARY - We do not have a better chance next year... that WAS our chance... We are in serious financial trouble... there ISNT any money to spend... We MUST get rid of our top players.

TAKE IT IN, BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL BURYING YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND!!


You werent patronising ANYONE by underlining stuff

You were just underlining how RIGHT you think you are. Cos you think your a bit better than us.

Simply put.

You call The Malaysians 'loan sharks'

Simply answered:

At the time Cardiff City were first 'enticed' by the Malaysian money, City were the equivalent
of an unmarried mum with no gas, no heating, and empty fridge, hungry kids and the bailiffs
knocking on the door. living in 'protected' Council housing.

Along comes a loan shark (Tan)

and offers to clear all her debts AND fill the fridge, get the gas back on, feed the kids and get
her back on her feet. But on the understanding that it IS a loan.

Loan sharks dont continue letting customers increase their debt unless there is a f*cking good
chance they'll get that money back. Do they f**k.

Now, clever c**t...

What assets can Vincent Tan strip from Cardiff City at the end of this season in order to recoup
£100m+

Remembering of course that he does not 'own' the Club and if he walks, the Club would immediately
go into Administration... a bit like a battered wives home if you like, to escape the loan sharks

Or is Tan a really STUPID loan shark??

Answer that and i'll start to worry.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:32 am

Daya wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:well done Daya



God your thick.


and your a cockney c**t

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:53 am

i am not an expert on any of this but did'nt man city get around this by useing one of their subsidery companies to sponser their stadium for 350 mil there are ways to get around these laws and i am sure they have a enough people working for them to find a answer

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:08 pm

glyncoedblue wrote:i am not an expert on any of this but did'nt man city get around this by useing one of their subsidery companies to sponser their stadium for 350 mil there are ways to get around these laws and i am sure they have a enough people working for them to find a answer


Exactly. Do we all think Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea are going to be playing on the same
level playing field as Norwich and Swansea next season?

f*cking ridiculous idea

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:01 pm

CantonMagic wrote:Reading this board this morning and all im reading is:-

If we get the right investment from the Malaysians...
Malky will take us up if they give him what he needs to spend...
We will have a better chance to go up next season...
The Malaysians are paying off our debts so we cant complain...

Now sorry to be patronising with my underlining and emphasising but nobody seems to be taking it on board which is quite frankly baffling...

THE FINANACIAL FAIRPLAY RULES WILL BE COMING INTO PLAY FFS!!!!!!!!

1) Owners will only be allowed to invest £6 million (They are currently investing £12 million per annum just to meet running costs of the club). Meaning there will be no money to spend and we will have to find £6 million from somewhere to keep the club affloat. The year after investment is capped at £4 million (meaning we will have to find an extra £8 million) and then the season after £2 million (meaning we will have to find £10 million) - THIS WILL BE BEFORE MALKY GET ANYTHING TO SPEND.

2) Wage bills are to be capped to a certain % of our income. We will have to get rid of our top earners to satisfy this, so that means Whitts, Miller and Earnie will have to go. We will have no funds in place to replace them. You see the pattern here?

3) THE MALAYSIANS ARE NOT PAYING OUR DEBTS, THEY ARE ADDING TO THEM!! The Malaysians are NOT our owners with our best interests at heart. They are glorified loan sharks. They are basically covering what e owe elsewhere and transferring the debt to themselves while charging 7% interest!! WAKE UP!! It wasnt by pur chance they took on one of the most debt ridden clubs in the football league, it was THE reason they chose us. We are in a position that we cannot refuse their loans, and this them making money off our desperation. They are like those payday lenders, praying on the desperate.

4) Debt has risen from £40 million to £70 million in a few short years and is increasing at a rate of £1.2 million (+7%) EVERY MONTH.

5) IN SUMMARY - We do not have a better chance next year... that WAS our chance... We are in serious financial trouble... there ISNT any money to spend... We MUST get rid of our top players.

TAKE IT IN, BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL BURYING YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND!!




Based on these figures - what clubs could survive?

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:24 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Daya wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:well done Daya



God your thick.


and your a cockney c**t

:lol: :lol: :lol: it's great this name calling :D

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:38 pm

CantonMagic wrote:2) Wage bills are to be capped to a certain % of our income. We will have to get rid of our top earners to satisfy this, so that means Whitts, Miller and Earnie will have to go. Ummm we don't pay Miller's wage or Earnie's anymore. We will have no funds in place to replace them. Ummm I think we have done just that and better ourselves. You see the pattern here? Yes I can see a pattern and it's there to be seen by everyone, we have a much better team than last season, we are 2nd in the league, admittedly, our debt is increasing but am I worried..... NO, because when Tan owns the club outright then the debt will be his, do you get it Mr Magic or Charlie or whatever else you call yourself. :D

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:24 pm

RM. Again. Boring. Yawn. Zzzzzzzzzz.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:27 pm

According to RM here we are doomed! As we will have deficit Of ten mil per Season Under FfP! That is Unsustainable so that's it folks the financial wizard That is RM as just told us we are bust ! :lol:

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:38 pm

pembroke allan wrote:According to RM here we are doomed! As we will have deficit Of ten mil per Season Under FfP! That is Unsustainable so that's it folks the financial wizard That is RM as just told us we are bust ! :lol:

THIS ^^^ :lol:

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:13 pm

Lol @ Roath.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:36 pm

Reading this board this morning and all im reading is:-

If we get the right investment from the Malaysians...
Malky will take us up if they give him what he needs to spend...
We will have a better chance to go up next season...
The Malaysians are paying off our debts so we cant complain...

Now sorry to be patronising with my underlining and emphasising but nobody seems to be taking it on board which is quite frankly baffling...

THE FINANACIAL FAIRPLAY RULES WILL BE COMING INTO PLAY FFS!!!!!!!!

1) Owners will only be allowed to invest £6 million (They are currently investing £12 million per annum just to meet running costs of the club). Meaning there will be no money to spend and we will have to find £6 million from somewhere to keep the club affloat. The year after investment is capped at £4 million (meaning we will have to find an extra £8 million) and then the season after £2 million (meaning we will have to find £10 million) - THIS WILL BE BEFORE MALKY GET ANYTHING TO SPEND.

Are you saying that If Swansea City get a rich new owner willing to stump up £6m - they will have as much of a chance
as Man United of winning the Championship?? You REALLY have gone too far this time and made an absolute weapon of
yourself. f*cking schoolboy stuff if you seriously think this cap will stop spending. The hatred of Cardiff City has finally
finished you off on this board you laughing stock


2) Wage bills are to be capped to a certain % of our income. We will have to get rid of our top earners to satisfy this, so that means Whitts, Miller and Earnie will have to go. We will have no funds in place to replace them. You see the pattern here?

Miller went, months ago you f*cking double jeopardy imbecile, we currently only pay a fraction of
Earnshaws wages. and pray tell how Man Utd will be able to afford Rooneys wages???


The only interesting thing you could ever write on here is the truth as to why you despise the
Malaysians so much. Were you bum fucked in Imbecile school out there?

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:14 pm

Sorry for not reading the whole thread but I assume this chargrilled thing is Roath aka no smoking aka tedious troll?

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:00 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:Sorry for not reading the whole thread but I assume this chargrilled thing is Roath aka no smoking aka tedious troll?


yes you are correct no way of avoiding the fact he is back!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:35 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Sorry for not reading the whole thread but I assume this chargrilled thing is Roath aka no smoking aka tedious troll?


yes you are correct no way of avoiding the fact he is back!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You would think he'd have the sense to try and be at least a tiny bit different from previous aliases. Absolute plum and incredibly boring. What's the point of banning him only for him to emerge days later spouting the same boring shite?

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:40 pm

Actually, it's not £12m per year, it was £20m last year and planned to be £25m this year plus another £10m put aside to sort out Sam's debt although who knows when that will happen.

The £6m limit will be easy enough to get round if the owners want to carry on ploughing money in (see what the owners of man city are doing via etihad) but the bigger question is whether the owners will want to carry on ploughing their money in. I hope they do, I can't see any other way out of the clubs current situation or anyone else coming in to take up the reigns.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:44 pm

RM should change his name to Emma Roids, as he's a pain in the arse that never really goes away.

Or maybe a better name would be Larry Labia, as he's a bit of a c**t.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:51 pm

Why is taffy replying to messages posted 7 months ago and replying o them as if they were posted today? :lol: he should be careful who he calls dull while he's doing things like this.

As for financialfairplay... Taffy you seem to have a complete lack of understanding regarding this. You said if Swansea get £6m of investment then they will be on par with united? Bizarre..

man united's income is £320m per annum, Swansea is £52m per annum.

Going Blythe new rules Swansea can spend up to £52m plus £6m investment. Meaning £58 million. How do. You workout they are on a level playing field with a club able to spend £326m?

As for getting round it. Chairmen and owners may decide to do this. Man city's owners are a prime example as they aren't running man city as a business they are inning it as an expensive hobby, anyone who wants their money back will not do this as they will then have no legal right to the money back as they are getting a service for it officially, be that sponsorship or otherwise.

Tan, as we know runs this as a business. Why would tan give away £20m per year to keep hold of a business that loses him money year on year. Ask yourself this and then you may be on the right track...

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:53 pm

JACK A f*cking ALERT! BEEP, BEEP, BEEP
:evil:

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:56 pm

You disagree then? I'm afraid it is fact no an opinion. I'm merely explaining financial fair play rules.

You could google it if you prefer, you will get the same answer and I'm sure google doesn't support anyone.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:59 pm

Yawn.

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:03 pm

Lawn

Re: WHY ARE OUR FANS SO THICK???!!! - The Malaysians

Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:32 pm

ffs this is getting silly now!! how many names does this person want on here? its so fcking stupid its unbelievable, its same language same grammer ect ect !!!! almost forgotten his original name hes used so many!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: