" LONG TERM YES - SHORT TERM NO "

i'll stick with what malky thinks is best if its all the same to you carl. thanks for your input though

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

If we had 5 mil to burn in deadline day you would think wed have a striker in by now.

my belief that only now rudy is injured (thank f**k!) then malky and or the board must react.

I still think it's just the case that Noone and Sordell had potential for their values to increase in future or in Noone's case stay pretty consistent so spending £5million would have been an investment.

However putting that five million purely into loans is dead money at the end of the season and we'll all expect signings at the end of the season if we don't go up even if we went out and brought Tevez in for the next few moths.

Spot on.
Loans are dead money, it's what they complained about under DJ.

The reason people let players out on loan on the whole is that they are not playing for them. (Lawrence being an exception)

That is why we ended up with crap like JET and Etuhu. I would prefer one of our youngsters blooded to useless pieces of crap like them. Put JLS in that too.

We are all aware of Malky's dossiers on bringing in new players. First a player is scouted, then a dossier is prepared by the team of 4 in the recruitment process, one will check out the players attitude and lifestyle, another will check on previous moves and how the player has performed throughout his career, creating a paper trail that is transparent to the board of directors. If the potential signing fails to pass on any of these checks then he will not be signed, period. I have been a fan of this philosophy and recruitment process as I believe it does help bring stability to the squad and I have defended it throughout the previous loan window and the recent transfer window.

I believe the recruitment process is right for the long term permanent signings ie. those who commit to 3 and 4 year deals but in the short term and when there is only 8 weeks left of the regular season I believe this process is restricting us in bringing players in.

This team needs help and it needs it now, there is fatigue in the majority of the players that are used week in week out. Malky Mackay is not using the fringe players (they are more like forgotten players now), the likes of Earnshaw, Blake, Quinn, Keinan, etc.

Trouble is with this Carl is that you are then in danger of taking on the likes of Jay Lloyd Samuel - and we all remember that ended in tears

If we are not going to use these players to freshen the squad up then in my opinion we must bring in one or two to help us get to where we need to be, the play-offs or better.

As a short term fix I can't see the problem, if you bring in a striker of winger who you believe will strengthen the squad but he does not match all the criteria set out in the dossier are we giving ourselves the best chance of success?

We owe it to the players who have got this far to give them the best chance of success and the possibility of playing Premier League football next season.

I don't wish to go all out loaning like last season but at least find the right mix of short term fix to aid the long term gain.

Fao POLO

grammar!!!!

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Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

If we had 5 mil to burn in deadline day you would think wed have a striker in by now.

my belief that only now rudy is injured (thank f**k!) then malky and or the board must react.

I still think it's just the case that Noone and Sordell had potential for their values to increase in future or in Noone's case stay pretty consistent so spending £5million would have been an investment.

However putting that five million purely into loans is dead money at the end of the season and we'll all expect signings at the end of the season if we don't go up even if we went out and brought Tevez in for the next few moths.

Spot on.
Loans are dead money, it's what they complained about under DJ.

The reason people let players out on loan on the whole is that they are not playing for them. (Lawrence being an exception)

That is why we ended up with crap like JET and Etuhu. I would prefer one of our youngsters blooded to useless pieces of crap like them. Put JLS in that too.

Used properly the loan system can get a team up - look at Stoke 3-4 seasons ago.

Used poorly then it is a distraction to the squad and can backfire eg Bywater, JET, JLS, Etuhu, Keogh & Koumas etc but last season had it not been for the likes of Bellamy, Olifanjani and for part Ramsey, we would not have got to the play offs.
What is needed now is for an injection of new players on loan to try to revitalise the season which is quickly slipping away.

It is mystifying that if the manager won't use his squad - Naylor, Quinn, Blake, Keinan, Earnshaw, Conway etc may not be the best but at the moment I daresay they would not do any worse than the present knackered team - he won't or can't get in cover.

Fao POLO

grammar!!!!

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Do one Eric

Eric?

You really are a cheerful person. I don't think i've read one post where you've not had a go at a City player, normally Rudy. Support the team!!

Eric?

You really are a cheerful person. I don't think i've read one post where you've not had a go at a City player, normally Rudy. Support the team!!

I support the team 100% when I am at the game but if I am being served up utter dross like Rudy on a regular basis then I like to let it rip on here. Thats what a messageboard is about surely? We all have different opinions.

Just because I dont live in pixie world where everything is rosey it doesnt mean I am negative. I just tell it like it is and if the pixies and fairies dont like it then thats their problem.

Didn’t Keane kick Lawrence out of Sunderland for a ‘spit roast’ incident ?

The seven minute clip shows keeper Ben Alnwick, winger Liam Lawrence and striker Chris Brown taking part in an orgy with the girl known as �Stevie�.

The film was shot in a mystery flat and involves six men in total performing sex acts on the girls and on themselves.

Didn’t Keane kick Lawrence out of Sunderland for a ‘spit roast’ incident ?

The seven minute clip shows keeper Ben Alnwick, winger Liam Lawrence and striker Chris Brown taking part in an orgy with the girl known as �Stevie�.

The film was shot in a mystery flat and involves six men in total performing sex acts on the girls and on themselves.

Never understood gang banging myself. Bit gay if you ask me.

anybody remember this useless prick we had for the short term "Quincy Owusu-Abeyie" sorry carl can't agree

Didn’t Keane kick Lawrence out of Sunderland for a ‘spit roast’ incident ?

The seven minute clip shows keeper Ben Alnwick, winger Liam Lawrence and striker Chris Brown taking part in an orgy with the girl known as �Stevie�.

The film was shot in a mystery flat and involves six men in total performing sex acts on the girls and on themselves.

Never understood gang banging myself. Bit gay if you ask me.

have you got the link ???

Normally agree with most of your thoughts Carl, but not this time sorry mate. I'd much rather wait for the right player than make a costly mistake. JLS cost us the season last year, can't see anyone like him getting in under Malky's system. It may take time, but Malky's team will be built on solid foundations.