magic daps ,wales number1 etc

i will be sure 2 menti0n u next time i am in there magicdaps. u knw 0f this jack cnstantly p0sting messages 0n cardiff city f0rums.... 0bsessed he is. they 0bvi0usly n0t 2 pr0ud 0f their jack r00ts as they keep it nice and quiet, 0r maybe its because half their cust0mers are blues.....
stll, i knw plenty 0f g0wer lads wh0 never say they're fr0m swansea.....

You're as bad as that other halfwit Garethwilts. You're not the same person are you? I provide hard evidence such as links to, and quotes from the official city and county of Swansea website which state quite clearly that the Gower is a part of it, and you counter that with half hearted conjecture. "I know some Gower lads who say they're not from Swansea" doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid. C'mon, is that really the best you can do? You can tell your snobby friends from the Gower, and they can deny this as much as they like, that they are very much a part of the city and county of Swansea. Not just the county of Swansea, but the city and county of Swansea. Ask them who they pay their council tax to? Ask them which city they write at the end of their address? Ask them if and when they vote.. which city and county their M.P is representing in parliament? At least try and come up with a counter argument that doesn't rely solely on hearsay...
It simply won't do.

i will be sure 2 menti0n u next time i am in there magicdaps. u knw 0f this jack cnstantly p0sting messages 0n cardiff city f0rums.... 0bsessed he is. they 0bvi0usly n0t 2 pr0ud 0f their jack r00ts as they keep it nice and quiet, 0r maybe its because half their cust0mers are blues.....
stll, i knw plenty 0f g0wer lads wh0 never say they're fr0m swansea.....

You're as bad as that other halfwit Garethwilts. You're not the same person are you? I provide hard evidence such as links to, and quotes from the official city and county of Swansea website which state quite clearly that the Gower is a part of it, and you counter that with half hearted conjecture. "I know some Gower lads who say they're not from Swansea" doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid. C'mon, is that really the best you can do? You can tell your snobby friends from the Gower, and they can deny this as much as they like, that they are very much a part of the city and county of Swansea. Not just the county of Swansea, but the city and county of Swansea. Ask them who they pay their council tax to? Ask them which city they write at the end of their address? Ask them if and when they vote.. which city and county their M.P is representing in parliament? At least try and come up with a counter argument that doesn't rely solely on hearsay...
It simply won't do.

Been watching this thread for a few days now and waiting for a slip up somewhere, and lo and behold here it comes:

"Which city and county their mp is representing in Parliament" Answer:- Martin Caton is labour mp for Gower! When asked about surely that is Swansea Martin? his reply " No Gower i'm afraid"

i will be sure 2 menti0n u next time i am in there magicdaps. u knw 0f this jack cnstantly p0sting messages 0n cardiff city f0rums.... 0bsessed he is. they 0bvi0usly n0t 2 pr0ud 0f their jack r00ts as they keep it nice and quiet, 0r maybe its because half their cust0mers are blues.....
stll, i knw plenty 0f g0wer lads wh0 never say they're fr0m swansea.....

You're as bad as that other halfwit Garethwilts. You're not the same person are you? I provide hard evidence such as links to, and quotes from the official city and county of Swansea website which state quite clearly that the Gower is a part of it, and you counter that with half hearted conjecture. "I know some Gower lads who say they're not from Swansea" doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid. C'mon, is that really the best you can do? You can tell your snobby friends from the Gower, and they can deny this as much as they like, that they are very much a part of the city and county of Swansea. Not just the county of Swansea, but the city and county of Swansea. Ask them who they pay their council tax to? Ask them which city they write at the end of their address? Ask them if and when they vote.. which city and county their M.P is representing in parliament? At least try and come up with a counter argument that doesn't rely solely on hearsay...
It simply won't do.

Been watching this thread for a few days now and waiting for a slip up somewhere, and lo and behold here it comes:

"Which city and county their mp is representing in Parliament" Answer:- Martin Caton is labour mp for Gower! When asked about surely that is Swansea Martin? his reply " No Gower i'm afraid"

You might want to do a little research before you get into an argument with me sunshine...

http://www.martin-caton.co.uk/working_hard_for_you

An excerpt form Mr Caton's own website....

Gower is an astonishingly diverse constituency comprising the old fishing village and seaside resort of Mumbles and its invirons to the south of Swansea city centre; the Gower peninsula to its west, the first Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty in Britain and to the north-west and north the Lliw Vlley region has a rich industrial history grounded in coal and steel. Some 76,000 people live in Gower and its population gre by 1.7% between 2001 and 2004. These make up around 31,300 households. The Constituency lies entirely within the borders of the City & County of Swansea. It is by far the biggest Parliamentary constituency of the three that make up the local authority and also has the largest electorate (approx 61,700). About 23% of the population is of retirement age.

The Constituency lies entirely within the borders of the City & County of Swansea.

More concrete evidence that the Gower in in the city and county of Swansea.

Anybody out there still want to deny it.....?

You're as bad as that other halfwit Garethwilts. You're not the same person are you? I provide hard evidence such as links to, and quotes from the official city and county of Swansea website which state quite clearly that the Gower is a part of it, and you counter that with half hearted conjecture. "I know some Gower lads who say they're not from Swansea" doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid. C'mon, is that really the best you can do? You can tell your snobby friends from the Gower, and they can deny this as much as they like, that they are very much a part of the city and county of Swansea. Not just the county of Swansea, but the city and county of Swansea. Ask them who they pay their council tax to? Ask them which city they write at the end of their address? Ask them if and when they vote.. which city and county their M.P is representing in parliament? At least try and come up with a counter argument that doesn't rely solely on hearsay...
It simply won't do.

http://www.gooogie.co.uk/?gid=1086924&h ... sea%20city?

You're as bad as that other halfwit Garethwilts. You're not the same person are you? I provide hard evidence such as links to, and quotes from the official city and county of Swansea website which state quite clearly that the Gower is a part of it, and you counter that with half hearted conjecture. "I know some Gower lads who say they're not from Swansea" doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid. C'mon, is that really the best you can do? You can tell your snobby friends from the Gower, and they can deny this as much as they like, that they are very much a part of the city and county of Swansea. Not just the county of Swansea, but the city and county of Swansea. Ask them who they pay their council tax to? Ask them which city they write at the end of their address? Ask them if and when they vote.. which city and county their M.P is representing in parliament? At least try and come up with a counter argument that doesn't rely solely on hearsay...
It simply won't do.

http://www.gooogie.co.uk/?gid=1086924&h ... sea%20city?

I might have known it would be you to come up with something as daft as that. Perhaps that's where you get your user name from. However, using humour isn't going to win the argument for you. You're another one Cardiff Daft, who used to scoff when I suggested that Gower is part of the city and county of Swansea didn't you? You haven't been involved in the discussions much of late have you? Perhaps you could see that the writing was on the wall.

While we're on the subject of scoffing... how does that humble pie taste?

I might have known it would be you to come up with something as daft as that. Perhaps that's where you get your user name from. However, using humour isn't going to win the argument for you. You're another one Cardiff Daft, who used to scoff when I suggested that Gower is part of the city and county of Swansea didn't you? You haven't been involved in the discussions much of late have you? Perhaps you could see that the writing was on the wall.

While we're on the subject of scoffing... how does that humble pie taste?

rafa, rafa, rafa! i cant believe you still think that you can convince us the gower (which was around long before swansea the city or county was) is part of swansea city!!! you really are a funny gypo!!!!

I might have known it would be you to come up with something as daft as that. Perhaps that's where you get your user name from. However, using humour isn't going to win the argument for you. You're another one Cardiff Daft, who used to scoff when I suggested that Gower is part of the city and county of Swansea didn't you? You haven't been involved in the discussions much of late have you? Perhaps you could see that the writing was on the wall.

While we're on the subject of scoffing... how does that humble pie taste?

rafa, rafa, rafa! i cant believe you still think that you can convince us the gower (which was around long before swansea the city or county was) is part of swansea city!!! you really are a funny gypo!!!!

So how do you explain this..?

Physical Description. The new City and County covers an area of 378 square kilometres (146 square miles), about 2% of the area of Wales. Extending from Rhossili Down at the western edge of the Gower Peninsula to Kilvey Hill, Crymlyn Bog and the slopes of the Drummau Mountain on the eastern border with Neath Port Talbot; and from Mumbles Head and the sweep of Swansea Bay in the south to the 1200 ft. ridge of Mynydd y Gwair overlooking the Amman Valley in the north, the new City and County covers an area of 378 square kilometres (146 square miles), about 2% of the area of Wales.

http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=139

Or this..?

The City and County can be broadly divided into 4 physical areas. In the north, the Lliw Uplands present an open moorland feature; the Gower Peninsula in the west, a rural landscape with contrasting coasts and a collection of small villages; the urban and suburban centre stretching from Swansea to Gorseinon and Pontarddulais; and the coastal strip around Swansea Bay, no more than 2 miles in width.

http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=139

Or this..?

Gower is an astonishingly diverse constituency comprising the old fishing village and seaside resort of Mumbles and its invirons to the south of Swansea city centre; the Gower peninsula to its west, the first Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty in Britain and to the north-west and north the Lliw Vlley region has a rich industrial history grounded in coal and steel. Some 76,000 people live in Gower and its population gre by 1.7% between 2001 and 2004. These make up around 31,300 households. The Constituency lies entirely within the borders of the City & County of Swansea. It is by far the biggest Parliamentary constituency of the three that make up the local authority and also has the largest electorate (approx 61,700). About 23% of the population is of retirement age.

http://www.martin-caton.co.uk/working_hard_for_you

At least make an effort at a sensible reply, and remember... Don't use the usual "it's part of the old West Glamorgan, but not part of the city of Swansea" rhetoric, because that simply won't do. Swansea's urban, suburban, and rural area's all come under THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA.

So, I'll ask again, and bearing in mind the content of the quotes from the official links that I've provided, for about the umpteenth time...

Is the Gower part of the city and county of Swansea?

YES OR NO?

Is the Gower part of the city and county of Swansea?

YES OR NO?

No.

Is the Gower part of the city and county of Swansea?

YES OR NO?

No.

I'm afraid to say that the Gower IS a part of the City and County of Swansea BUT it is NOT a part of the City of Swansea if that makes sense so magicdaps is indeed correct.
Why are we bothered anyway
By the way, I love the Gower, there are loads of nice birds there

we know that the gower is part of the county but is it hell part of the city. thats what we are trying to tell him!!!

In fairness I don't think he is saying its part of the city, just a part of the city and county of swansea as it is known now. Just like south glamorgan is now known as city and county of cardiff.

in fairness i dont think youve read all his posts then.

we know that the gower is part of the county but is it hell part of the city. thats what we are trying to tell him!!!

And i've been trying to tell you...

All of Swansea's urban, suburban, and rural area's are part of the region known as THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA. Please stop trying to suggest that the Gower is only part of the county of Swansea, but is not part of the city of Swansea. It is either within the boundaries of the CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA, or it is not. I have never suggested that the Gower is part of the city centre, as that would be ridiculous, but you cannot continue to make a distinction between where the city boundaries end and the county boundaries start, because it all comes under the CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA, of which the Gower is a part (the biggest part in actual fact).

Do you understand?
Do you get it?
Am I getting through to you?

in fairness i dont think youve read all his posts then.

Listen, I really don't want to get into a debate of where the Gower is as it doesn't concern me in the slightest and I couldn't give a toss. I have read all the posts in detail and there is not one post by him that says he is saying that the Gower is part of the centre of Swansea just that it is a part of the City and County of Swansea of which it is.
I will say again that I don't care, it's all a bit trivial really to what really matters and that is Cardiff City so I will only be debating all things Cardiff City.
Now who is that player we are signing again today

we know that the gower is part of the county but is it hell part of the city. thats what we are trying to tell him!!!

And i've been trying to tell you...

All of Swansea's urban, suburban, and rural area's are part of the region known as THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA. Please stop trying to suggest that the Gower is only part of the county of Swansea, but is not part of the city of Swansea. It is either within the boundaries of the CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA, or it is not. I have never suggested that the Gower is part of the city centre, as that would be ridiculous, but you cannot continue to make a distinction between where the city boundaries end and the county boundaries start, because it all comes under the CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA, of which the Gower is a part (the biggest part in actual fact).

Do you understand?
Do you get it?
Am I getting through to you?

More fool you. But keep explaining if you've got nothing better to do

right so what you are saying is that everything within swansea county is swansea city????? so going by this map swansea is a bigger city than cardiff.

but hang on a minute we all know, even you!! that Cardiff City is bigger than Swansea City

your a fruitcake. you need to let it go. the whole county aint a city. the city is a part of the county just like the gower but they aint the same.

i just noticed on that map. wrexham is a massive city. never knew it was that big!

0h tragic wh0 are u talking to now? yes its part 0f the c0unty but n0t the city, l0vely c0unty, shitty city....
as u must well kn0w it takes ab0ut 30 mins 2 drive fr0m the brittania inn 2 the 0utskirts 0f swansea...if i did that fr0m say radyr, lisvane 0r th0rnhill i'd be in brec0n...is that still cardiff then?? just face facts that no-one 0r n0 area even wants 2 be asscoiated with the city 0f slumsea.....deary me its n0t like new inf0 isit....ps if u are frm the g0wer u will kno the guy wh0 used 2 w0rk in city surf sh0p in cardiff and swansea yrs ag0...he lives 0n the g0wer....t0p guy.

0h tragic wh0 are u talking to now? yes its part 0f the c0unty but n0t the city, l0vely c0unty, shitty city....
as u must well kn0w it takes ab0ut 30 mins 2 drive fr0m the brittania inn 2 the 0utskirts 0f swansea...if i did that fr0m say radyr, lisvane 0r th0rnhill i'd be in brec0n...is that still cardiff then?? just face facts that no-one 0r n0 area even wants 2 be asscoiated with the city 0f slumsea.....deary me its n0t like new inf0 isit....ps if u are frm the g0wer u will kno the guy wh0 used 2 w0rk in city surf sh0p in cardiff and swansea yrs ag0...he lives 0n the g0wer....t0p guy.

I'm talking to anyone and everyone that stupidly continue to deny that the Gower is not a part of the city and county of Swansea. I don't know what your silly little theory about driving for half hour out from Cardiff proves, other than that the city and county of Cardiff is a lot smaller than the city of county of Swansea. You can't be bigger and better at everything, especially when it comes to the matter of football!
Just for the record..
Total area of the city and county of Swansea is 145.9 sq mi (378 km)
Total area of the city and county of Cardiff is 83.4 sq mi (216 km)

How many times do I have to tell you... You cannot split the City of Swansea and the County of Swansea into two different entities. Both come under THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SWANSEA. FFS, why can you not get your heads around this?

the city and county of swansea means they are 2 seperate things, swansea city & swansea county. if they were one and the same then why isnt it simply just called swansea. youve clearly lost the plot now magicdaps let it go....

the city and county of swansea means they are 2 seperate things, swansea city & swansea county. if they were one and the same then why isnt it simply just called swansea. youve clearly lost the plot now magicdaps let it go....

Bloody hell you're making hard work of this...

Lets forget about the Gower and the city and county of Swansea a minute. There is obviously some kind of mental block which prevents you from associating one with the other. So lets try a different approach...

Take the example of the city and county of Cardiff. Is there a boundary around the city? A boundary which when you step over takes you from the city of Cardiff into the county of Cardiff? No, there is not. The city centre and urban area's of Cardiff give way to the suburban area's, which in turn give way to the rural area's and eventually the city and county border. Depending on which direction you're heading you will then cross over into a neighbouring county, e.g the vale of glamorgan.

Still with me?

O.k, lets apply this same logic to Swansea. There is no boundary to the city of Swansea, only a city and county boundary. The Gower is part of the city and county of Swansea, because it falls within these boundaries. I'm not claiming that the Gower is part of the city centre of Swansea. That would be ridiculous, but what I'm perfectly correct in saying, is that the Gower is part of the city and county of Swansea.

Now, you might not like it, but you have to accept that I'm right...

the city and county of swansea means they are 2 seperate things, swansea city & swansea county. if they were one and the same then why isnt it simply just called swansea. youve clearly lost the plot now magicdaps let it go....

Bloody hell you're making hard work of this...

Lets forget about the Gower and the city and county of Swansea a minute. There is obviously some kind of mental block which prevents you from associating one with the other. So lets try a different approach...

Take the example of the city and county of Cardiff. Is there a boundary around the city? A boundary which when you step over takes you from the city of Cardiff into the county of Cardiff? No, there is not. The city centre and urban area's of Cardiff give way to the suburban area's, which in turn give way to the rural area's and eventually the city and county border. Depending on which direction you're heading you will then cross over into a neighbouring county, e.g the vale of glamorgan.

Still with me?

O.k, lets apply this same logic to Swansea. There is no boundary to the city of Swansea, only a city and county boundary. The Gower is part of the city and county of Swansea, because it falls within these boundaries. I'm not claiming that the Gower is part of the city centre of Swansea. That would be ridiculous, but what I'm perfectly correct in saying, is that the Gower is part of the city and county of Swansea.

Now, you might not like it, but you have to accept that I'm right...

tbh Daps I think everyone's just saying no because you post a longer reply each time and quite frankly it's hilarious.

Well magicdaps thanks for the modern history lesson I have lived outside wales for the last 20 years due to military comitments but of course what you have done is proved to everybody that you do not watch your team much. 16:59 I believe 4 minutes after your game finished you are on our forum. Wales No 1 another City obsesed Jack 17:04 9 minutes after being humiliated by the worst club in your league who played 6 second team players ( and before you start saying yes but we played a reserve team I have looked and am aware that yours was mostly a second team as well 7 I believe). So were you both at the match? Good game was It?

Ever seen a live match either of you?

what you have done is proved to everybody that you do not watch your team much

I have missed no more than 2 or 3 games in the the 6yrs we've been playing at fortress liberty. Didn't miss too many at the vetch either. I will openly admit that I don't make as many away games as I used to. One of the down sides of having young children. Would you care to explain how you've come to the conclusion that I don't watch my team much? I don't wish to be disrespectful to a member of our armed forces. If you are genuinely serving our country, then you have my utmost respect, but that doesn't excuse you from making unfounded and spurious allegations.

So magicdaps if I have misjudged you and you are a true fan ( as much as I hate all Jacks ) I am a big enough man to apologise. I am usually a very good judge of character and I may have got you wrong.
The way you act on here always 5 or 10 mins after a match finishes made me think you were just a kid who had nothing better to do than to look on another teams forum. I would never even look at a Swansea forum ( If there are any ) and can honestly say (Cardiff games apart ) that I would rather eat my own earwax than even look at Swansea on television.
Looking through your posts on this subject you would appear to be quite an intellegent man but on some other posts you act like a buffoon.
I hope this explains how I came to what would appear to be a wrong conclusion and I am and have been for the last 20 years in the RAF.