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Funny your attendances show lots of empty seats last season

Luke
Including getting promoted to the Premier League with crowds of 13,000.

Funny your attendances show lots of empty seats last season

Luke
Including getting promoted to the Premier League with crowds of 13,000.

As opposed to f*cking it up yet again on your crowds

I know which one of us is laughing loudest

Funny your attendances show lots of empty seats last season

Luke
Including getting promoted to the Premier League with crowds of 13,000.

As opposed to f*cking it up yet again on your crowds

I know which one of us is laughing loudest

How's your mother?

No they wouldn't....but another tier abovee the existing seating would be good (say 35,000 or so)

So am I delusional when I say there are ST holders at the Liberty selling their seats for about £15?

It muat haave been a mirage when I got offered that for the Swansea Bolton game....no it could have not been as a mirage only happens in the desert.

Not at all. There are bound to be some plastics. The difference is though, there will always be someone to buy that ticket as every game is sold out with only 1,500 match day tickets available which go within hours of going on sale.

Therefore a moot point.

Glad you admit to that. However from 8,000 to 16,000 ST holders I think its a bit naive to say there will be some plastics about. lets see if you can hold onto them like we have since our FA cup final appearance.

The only way to guarantee a seat for this season was to get a season ticket. Previously fans could just buy on a match by match basis. That's almost impossible now. And with with 90% of ST's being sold prior to the play off final, the number of plastics is minimal.

Minimal, we will see.

For every plastic who has bought a ST, there is a very long queue of people who would be happy to purchase that ticket off him.

I think you are confusing the rugby queue with the football queue, NJ73

Funny your attendances show lots of empty seats last season

Luke
Including getting promoted to the Premier League with crowds of 13,000.

As opposed to f*cking it up yet again on your crowds

I know which one of us is laughing loudest

Oh but we are talking about attendances...... Guess someone just lost

Easy one for me. Consistent success toward the top end of the premiership for decades, yes! We will get the generations come through who will all be Cardiff mad and not slip through the net. However if we are talking here and now...we would get crowds in and around 30-35k average gate for premiership matches if we went up this season.

Funny your attendances show lots of empty seats last season

Luke
Including getting promoted to the Premier League with crowds of 13,000.

As opposed to f*cking it up yet again on your crowds

I know which one of us is laughing loudest

Oh but we are talking about attendances...... Guess someone just lost

I know its not something you're familier with but try looking up what 'sold out' means

have you ever sold out YOUR stadium? of course not you dont own one

have you ever sold out YOUR stadium? of course not you dont own one

Neither do AC Milan and Inter Milan. Doesn't seen to have held them back

have you ever sold out YOUR stadium? of course not you dont own one

Neither do AC Milan and Inter Milan. Doesn't seen to have held them back

You do know Italian football is totally corrupt don't you

Just ignore that f*cking gypo. This was an interesting thread until, yet again, one of them idiots interfered.

I guess the question is who in the premier league could we be a big us under the right circumstances, Everton (ave 33k), Newcastle (ave 48k) or just Fulham (25k). Obvioulsy we would get more than our current ave 22k.
Personally I think we could fill 35k every week in the premier league (Ave 34.5k) providing travelling in and out was easier.

Just ignore that f*cking gypo. This was an interesting thread until, yet again, one of them idiots interfered.

I guess the question is who in the premier league could we be a big us under the right circumstances, Everton (ave 33k), Newcastle (ave 48k) or just Fulham (25k). Obvioulsy we would get more than our current ave 22k.
Personally I think we could fill 35k every week in the premier league (Ave 34.5k) providing travelling in and out was easier.

Totally agree, thats why in Bluebird Lutons awards, NJ 73 got the idiot award.

Just ignore that f*cking gypo. This was an interesting thread until, yet again, one of them idiots interfered.

I guess the question is who in the premier league could we be a big us under the right circumstances, Everton (ave 33k), Newcastle (ave 48k) or just Fulham (25k). Obvioulsy we would get more than our current ave 22k.
Personally I think we could fill 35k every week in the premier league (Ave 34.5k) providing travelling in and out was easier.

Totally agree, thats why in Bluebird Lutons awards, NJ 73 got the idiot award.

You think you need a 60,000 seated stadium but I'm the idiot? Priceless

Suppose the capacity 20500 was a great idea too? Shows ambition

Suppose the capacity 20500 was a great idea too? Shows ambition

Given that we were in League Two when that was built, yes.

Suppose the capacity 20500 was a great idea too? Shows ambition

Given that we were in League Two when that was built, yes.

Shame it wasn't a little more amitious though. like 27,000 whats that 6500 tickets at say £25 a pop only £ 162,500 per game, what was your last home gate in league 2 ?? Ignore your fans at your cost. I'd be pointing the finger at your board and not ours.

Suppose the capacity 20500 was a great idea too? Shows ambition

Given that we were in League Two when that was built, yes.

Shame it wasn't a little more amitious though. like 27,000 whats that 6500 tickets at say £25 a pop only £ 162,500 per game, what was your last home gate in league 2 ?? Ignore your fans at your cost. I'd be pointing the finger at your board and not ours.

It's a good point though, when the Liberty was built, no-one could have predicted that we would rise up the leagues like we did. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

As for yourselves, would expanding your stadium go in stages of say 5,000 at a time? Or is it a lot cheaper to lump an extra say 15,000 or 20,000 in one go?

Amazes to think back to when I was a kid and the attendances that both teams used to get compared to now.

Suppose the capacity 20500 was a great idea too? Shows ambition

Given that we were in League Two when that was built, yes.

Shame it wasn't a little more amitious though. like 27,000 whats that 6500 tickets at say £25 a pop only £ 162,500 per game, what was your last home gate in league 2 ?? Ignore your fans at your cost. I'd be pointing the finger at your board and not ours.

It's a good point though, when the Liberty was built, no-one could have predicted that we would rise up the leagues like we did. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

As for yourselves, would expanding your stadium go in stages of say 5,000 at a time? Or is it a lot cheaper to lump an extra say 15,000 or 20,000 in one go?

Amazes to think back to when I was a kid and the attendances that both teams used to get compared to now.

My point was you had about 19k toward the end of your league 2 season in repsonse to NJ yet you built a 20.5k stadium.
Surely Championship would have brought that 19k back and some? He was quick to mock our ambition but I'd rather have ambtion and planning (and were only talking about planning) than to er on the side of caution and build a ground too small capping your revenue like yours is now. You planned to fail where as we planned to succeed cant see anything wrong or funny about that do you?

Not disagreeing with you, its very frustrating now. But, the plans for the Liberty were approved a few years prior, and at the time, 20,000 probably seemed over the top.

Plus, as many on here are more than happy to point out, the Council built it. As I said, I agree and find it very frustrating right now, and I also agree that you have a much better set up with regards expansion. But it is what it is.

Back to the original post, if you can expand by 5,000 seats at a time then that's the way forward, build the stadium as the club grows, don't go jumping the gun and put in thousands of extra seats until you know you're going to fill them.

Not disagreeing with you, its very frustrating now. But, the plans for the Liberty were approved a few years prior, and at the time, 20,000 probably seemed over the top.

Plus, as many on here are more than happy to point out, the Council built it. As I said, I agree and find it very frustrating right now, and I also agree that you have a much better set up with regards expansion. But it is what it is.

Back to the original post, if you can expand by 5,000 seats at a time then that's the way forward, build the stadium as the club grows, don't go jumping the gun and put in thousands of extra seats until you know you're going to fill them.

Valid point and to answer the original post I think we could but as mentioned that level of support takes years to build up

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Suppose the capacity 20500 was a great idea too? Shows ambition

Given that we were in League Two when that was built, yes.

Shame it wasn't a little more amitious though. like 27,000 whats that 6500 tickets at say £25 a pop only £ 162,500 per game, what was your last home gate in league 2 ?? Ignore your fans at your cost. I'd be pointing the finger at your board and not ours.

It's a good point though, when the Liberty was built, no-one could have predicted that we would rise up the leagues like we did. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

As for yourselves, would expanding your stadium go in stages of say 5,000 at a time? Or is it a lot cheaper to lump an extra say 15,000 or 20,000 in one go?

Amazes to think back to when I was a kid and the attendances that both teams used to get compared to now.

My point was you had about 19k toward the end of your league 2 season in repsonse to NJ yet you built a 20.5k stadium.
Surely Championship would have brought that 19k back and some? He was quick to mock our ambition but I'd rather have ambtion and planning (and were only talking about planning) than to er on the side of caution and build a ground too small capping your revenue like yours is now. You planned to fail where as we planned to succeed cant see anything wrong or funny about that do you?

Our crowds at the end if that League 2 season were 9k, not 19k. The Vetch by that stage would only hold 9k.

When the plans for the stadium were being finalized, we were averaging about 6k in the bottom division.

You said when it was built not when it was planned. Ok so your small crowd defined your capacity, and now your capacity defines your crowd what a conundrum. Done this who's the bigger club shit to death so not even going there. We are where we are and your where you are. The fact we were audacious enough to seek planning for a 60k thats our business.

Just ignore that f*cking gypo. This was an interesting thread until, yet again, one of them idiots interfered.

I guess the question is who in the premier league could we be a big us under the right circumstances, Everton (ave 33k), Newcastle (ave 48k) or just Fulham (25k). Obvioulsy we would get more than our current ave 22k.
Personally I think we could fill 35k every week in the premier league (Ave 34.5k) providing travelling in and out was easier.

Totally agree, thats why in Bluebird Lutons awards, NJ 73 got the idiot award.

You think you need a 60,000 seated stadium but I'm the idiot? Priceless

I will say it again, I believe eventually if we were successful enough in the Premier league, we could fill it for at least 8 games a season, plus other games of 45,000 plus. I am not on about Swansea, your max is 25,000 incl 5,000 away fans.

Some of you actually believe you will sell out a 60k stadium get in the real world. You think you can be better or on par with Newcastle, Tottenham, Arsenal, Sunderland, Leeds, Bayern Munich, HSV, Valencia, Schalke, Werder Bremen, Napoli, Lazio, Udinese, Juventus, Aston Villa, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Sevilla, Betis, Porto, Benfica, Sporting, Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV, Marseille, PSG, Lyon, Bordeux. Your all living in cloud cuckoo land honestly, you wouldnt even fill a 60k stadium in 25 years time. Annis i thought you were a bit smarter than you are, but obviously not. Its all dreams that will never come true unfortunately in reality, but you guys don't live in the real world do you. Some of you who post on here are embarrassing to the true dedicated cardiff faithful. I know with your rivals going up a league you try to prove a point, but your point is a pipe dream unfortunately. Realism is a rare thing in a cardiff fans mindset that unfortunately will not change. I wish you good luck on your quest to be the next barcelona but unfortunately i think someone else is already taking over that mantle .. good night god bless and happy dreams.. because that's all you will have dreams not realisms. Bitterness is a wonderful thing eh?

Just ignore that f*cking gypo. This was an interesting thread until, yet again, one of them idiots interfered.

I guess the question is who in the premier league could we be a big us under the right circumstances, Everton (ave 33k), Newcastle (ave 48k) or just Fulham (25k). Obvioulsy we would get more than our current ave 22k.
Personally I think we could fill 35k every week in the premier league (Ave 34.5k) providing travelling in and out was easier.

Totally agree, thats why in Bluebird Lutons awards, NJ 73 got the idiot award.

You think you need a 60,000 seated stadium but I'm the idiot? Priceless

I will say it again, I believe eventually if we were successful enough in the Premier league, we could fill it for at least 8 games a season, plus other games of 45,000 plus. I am not on about Swansea, your max is 25,000 incl 5,000 away fans.

No offence Annis but they took 40k to go see Reading... Pretty sure they will get more than 25k to see the likes of Man U, Man City

We could get 35,000 every other week I've not doubt . Very few football teams can ever fill out a 60,000+ stadium every other week; Sure in the 1st couple of years we could , but then people complacent and will move on and then its just left to us genuine fans left

Some of you actually believe you will sell out a 60k stadium get in the real world. You think you can be better or on par with Newcastle, Tottenham, Arsenal, Sunderland, Leeds, Bayern Munich, HSV, Valencia, Schalke, Werder Bremen, Napoli, Lazio, Udinese, Juventus, Aston Villa, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Sevilla, Betis, Porto, Benfica, Sporting, Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV, Marseille, PSG, Lyon, Bordeux. Your all living in cloud cuckoo land honestly, you wouldnt even fill a 60k stadium in 25 years time. Annis i thought you were a bit smarter than you are, but obviously not. Its all dreams that will never come true unfortunately in reality, but you guys don't live in the real world do you. Some of you who post on here are embarrassing to the true dedicated cardiff faithful. I know with your rivals going up a league you try to prove a point, but your point is a pipe dream unfortunately. Realism is a rare thing in a cardiff fans mindset that unfortunately will not change. I wish you good luck on your quest to be the next barcelona but unfortunately i think someone else is already taking over that mantle .. good night god bless and happy dreams.. because that's all you will have dreams not realisms. Bitterness is a wonderful thing eh?

You talk about bitterness?

You joined this forum in July of last year, you comment on a thread that had nothing to do with you, on a forum that has nothing to do with you.
I put it to you sir that you are bitter.

And a c**t.

Some of you actually believe you will sell out a 60k stadium get in the real world. You think you can be better or on par with Newcastle, Tottenham, Arsenal, Sunderland, Leeds, Bayern Munich, HSV, Valencia, Schalke, Werder Bremen, Napoli, Lazio, Udinese, Juventus, Aston Villa, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Sevilla, Betis, Porto, Benfica, Sporting, Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV, Marseille, PSG, Lyon, Bordeux. Your all living in cloud cuckoo land honestly, you wouldnt even fill a 60k stadium in 25 years time. Annis i thought you were a bit smarter than you are, but obviously not. Its all dreams that will never come true unfortunately in reality, but you guys don't live in the real world do you. Some of you who post on here are embarrassing to the true dedicated cardiff faithful. I know with your rivals going up a league you try to prove a point, but your point is a pipe dream unfortunately. Realism is a rare thing in a cardiff fans mindset that unfortunately will not change. I wish you good luck on your quest to be the next barcelona but unfortunately i think someone else is already taking over that mantle .. good night god bless and happy dreams.. because that's all you will have dreams not realisms. Bitterness is a wonderful thing eh?

You talk about bitterness?

You joined this forum in July of last year, you comment on a thread that had nothing to do with you, on a forum that has nothing to do with you.
I put it to you sir that you are bitter.

And a c**t.

July last year, after they got promoted! Another plastic who come to gloat the glory days whilst they last. Respect to those who did come here and hold their own before the glory days, but it was only a quarter of posters we have now.