WHY CARDIFF AND NOT SWANSEA?

most of our support is from rhondda? ye course it is
your really a small club that achieves 11k crowds. just like blackpool. u'll see when you come back down

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

good folk of swansea! your a right funny gypo you eh!

await your rafa benitez impression FACT FACT FACT

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

good folk of swansea! your a right funny gypo you eh!

await your rafa benitez impression FACT FACT FACT

Tut tut, still up to your old tricks I see. You obviously need reminding....

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/201 ... 2011en.pdf

There are 8.0625 gypsies living in Cardiff for every 1 living in Swansea. That my friend (in my best spanish accent) is a FACT FACT FACT!

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

good folk of swansea! your a right funny gypo you eh!

await your rafa benitez impression FACT FACT FACT

Tut tut, still up to your old tricks I see. You obviously need reminding....

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/201 ... 2011en.pdf


They have all come over from Swansea as asylum seekers. The Somalians love them.

Oh & can you please post that link again. You haven't done it for nearly 8 minutes now. Gypo.

There are 8.0625 gypsies living in Cardiff for every 1 living in Swansea. That my friend (in my best spanish accent) is a FACT FACT FACT!

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

good folk of swansea! your a right funny gypo you eh!

await your rafa benitez impression FACT FACT FACT

Tut tut, still up to your old tricks I see. You obviously need reminding....

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/201 ... 2011en.pdf


They have all come over from Swansea as asylum seekers. The Somalians love them.

Oh & can you please post that link again. You haven't done it for nearly 8 minutes now. Gypo.

There are 8.0625 gypsies living in Cardiff for every 1 living in Swansea. That my friend (in my best spanish accent) is a FACT FACT FACT!

Yes of course, my pleasure..

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/201 ... 2011en.pdf

Although I don't know why I bother. Most folk on here seem content to ignore the facts as they are, and continue to label the population of Swansea as gypo's etc. Seems a rather retarded thing to do given that it is the city of Cardiff that is swarming with the dirty, smelly, tinker types. I can only conclude that these same retards are unwilling to click on the link for fear of having to face upto the reality of the situation. I understand that for some it can't make for easy reading, and that sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, but FACTS are FACTS.

gareth bale spent 25k in less than an hour the other week and staff were to busy having photos whilst shop was being heist.

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we been spending top dollar on clothes for years - it has now become the in - place to spend a small fortune in flannels on suits once again

so the cardiff branch are laughing of late especialy with all the yuppies ...

Annis spent a grand there too on my new xmas coat lol

if you keep buying his books he may buy me a new pair of shoes too

Lets have a look at your info then Magicbaps -

The response and quality of the count can be affected by the following factors:
• local authorities not completing their returns;
• inadequate counting practices;
• geography – particularly in large rural areas which require correspondingly large resources to map all sites; and
• Gypsy and Traveller mistrust.

Meaningful comparisons of total figures for Wales over time are limited by local authorities who do not take part in the count. It is therefore advised that comparisons over time should only be made for local authorities that have taken part in all relevant counts.

Swansea (a)........1111

a) Authority did not take part in all counts
(b) Wales figures only refer to the local authorities that responded in each count.. Data item not availableTable


Bit like going into administration twice and then shouting about another club (not in admin) going broke.
Still you're premier league and there is no disputing that blah blah blah.

Some of our fans really do come across as very bitter be proud a Welsh club is in the PL ffs

its not about bitterness. we just don't f*cking like them.

No not bitter at all.. as for a shit hole most of your six fingered bunch of retarded supporters come from the rhondda (the biggest sh1t hole in south wales) ow butt ow ow ow talk sh1t like that. walk around slapping there f*cking heads all the time. you may be the capital but we're the number 1 club and thats a FACT

another swansea retard. yes, a lot of cardiff fans do live in deprived valleys towns but they still dress better then you scruffy, gypo cunts.

So to sum it up you are all ecstatic over our wags
shopping in cardiff.
Shame thats all you got to shout over really.
& the closest you lot will get to something premier on & off the pitch.

Oh it really is a great place to be up here in the prem.
Go back and bite your pillow carl the jealousy must be killing you butt.

So to sum it up you are all ecstatic over our wags
shopping in cardiff.
Shame thats all you got to shout over really.
& the closest you lot will get to something premier on & off the pitch.

Oh it really is a great place to be up here in the prem.
Go back and bite your pillow carl the jealousy must be killing you butt.

what a first class pikey - you really do need a good shafting of your old man !

I suppose if they want to shop in Matalan then they can stay in Gypo Land. If they want class !!! Come to their capital

most of our support is from rhondda? ye course it is
your really a small club that achieves 11k crowds. just like blackpool. u'll see when you come back down

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

wouldnt class the blackwood area as deprived mate.. you only av to look at the property prices to see that!! i would choose a lot of valley towns and surrounding areas to live in well before swansea.. we also have 3 of the highest ranked secondary schools in the country , dont see many swansea schools with a goverment ranking of 1!!

obviously your geographical knowledge of anything outside of your hole is far beyond you!!

most of our support is from rhondda? ye course it is
your really a small club that achieves 11k crowds. just like blackpool. u'll see when you come back down

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

wouldnt class the blackwood area as deprived mate.. you only av to look at the property prices to see that!! i would choose a lot of valley towns and surrounding areas to live in well before swansea.. we also have 3 of the highest ranked secondary schools in the country , dont see many swansea schools with a goverment ranking of 1!!

obviously your geographical knowledge of anything outside of your hole is far beyond you!!

http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Mixed ... story.html

most of our support is from rhondda? ye course it is
your really a small club that achieves 11k crowds. just like blackpool. u'll see when you come back down

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

wouldnt class the blackwood area as deprived mate.. you only av to look at the property prices to see that!! i would choose a lot of valley towns and surrounding areas to live in well before swansea.. we also have 3 of the highest ranked secondary schools in the country , dont see many swansea schools with a goverment ranking of 1!!

obviously your geographical knowledge of anything outside of your hole is far beyond you!!

Property prices? Average price of a house in Blackwood finally broken the £25.000 mark has it? Congratulations, you must be over the moon. Didn't realise that Blackwood had become some kind of educational centre of excellence either. Christ, folk must be flocking there from all four corners of the globe for a better life.

Oh it really is a great place to be up here in the prem.

nah, you should be enjoying it. enjoy your only season in the prem. coz by the looks of it it will be a one season wonder.

nearly half way through the season and the number of points seperating you from the relegation zone you could count on one hand and still have a spare finger!

Tut tut, still up to your old tricks I see. You obviously need reminding....

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/201 ... 2011en.pdf

There are 8.0625 gypsies living in Cardiff for every 1 living in Swansea. That my friend (in my best spanish accent) is a FACT FACT FACT!

what does it say about your city if the irish gypos dont even wanna live there! perhaps they feel posh in swansea.

Tut tut, still up to your old tricks I see. You obviously need reminding....

http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/201 ... 2011en.pdf

There are 8.0625 gypsies living in Cardiff for every 1 living in Swansea. That my friend (in my best spanish accent) is a FACT FACT FACT!

what does it say about your city if the irish gypos dont even wanna live there! perhaps they feel posh in swansea.

Thats one way of looking at it. Personally I think the tinkers are drawn to the bright lights of the capital coz it reminds them of the stinking slums of Belfast that they grew up in.

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

From which part of my post did you draw the conculsion that i'm envious of Cardiff? I thought i'd made it quite clear that I'm perfectly contented living in Swansea. You on the other hand, and correct me if I'm wrong here, are from Cardiff, and loved the place so much, decided to move to Neath?? As for your observation that there are more people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff in recent years, that sort of proves my point. People are happy to commute to Cardiff if thats where they happen to work, but choose to live in and around Swansea. Just like you.

I think James has made a perfectly valid point. Maybe not most of Cardiff's support comes from Rhondda and the valleys, but certainly a significant number do. Scroll through the contributors to this very thread and you'll see that they hail from such places as Treharris, Tonyrefail, Blackwood, Tonypandy, Aberdare, etc, etc. Therefor some of your supporters come from some of the most deprived areas, not just of Wales, but of the whole of Britain. So next time you look down your long noses at the good folk of Swansea, please remember that many of your own are from far more deprived, and undesirable parts of Wales than Swansea.

good folk of swansea! your a right funny gypo you eh!

await your rafa benitez impression FACT FACT FACT

Tonyrefail is not that deprived. New houses being built around the area going for over £200,000.

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

Well said. Cardiff is a cosmopolitan city whereas Swansea is a place that is stuck in an 80s timewarp.

BTW Magicdaps does 'close knit' really mean incestuous ?

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

Well said. Cardiff is a cosmopolitan city whereas Swansea is a place that is stuck in an 80s timewarp.

BTW Magicdaps does 'close knit' really mean incestuous ?

No, it doesn't. There is a traditional community spirit here that I suspect you wouldn't find in your "cosmopolitan" city. Please don't confuse close knit with incestuous. That's something you'd have to ask your cardiff tinker caravan dwelling bretherin about. Shouldn't be a problem, there's plenty of them about. Don't know why you would think swansea is stuck in the 80's? Have you actually been to swansea in the last 15 years? There has been massive regeneration of the dock and marina parts of town, and even the city centre is improving. Nothing on the scale of cardiff admittedly, but we more than make up for that by having a beautiful coastline, and gower peninsula on our doorstep.

Pretty sure Swansea used to have a Woodies Emporium as did Brizzle?? Havent been down there shopping for years but I'd imagine the pull of Cardiff retail wise would give us more 'top end' clothing stores than our second city.
Cardiff isn't the best but its like comparing London to Birmingham.
I don't know what you're getting at but your average WAG isnt short of a bob or two, so who cares where they spend their cash? Cardiff can only benefit from our cousin's premiership wages!!!

I'd say its more like comparing London to Hull!!!!

Wouldn't go that far, but I get your point. But would I rather live in London, or Cardiff? Not a chance. Give me the close knit community of Swansea, over better shops any day of the week. Folk are far friendlier down here, than the self important arrogance of your typical Londoner, and to a slightly lesser extent your typical Cardiffian. You can keep your John Lewis stores thank you very much. I'm more than happy in my "ugly, lovely town". And not forgetting of course, we've got premier league football.

I'm a "typical Cardiffian" and I believe we're far friendlier than the "typical Swansea person."

I've been a commuter between Neath and Cardiff for the past 19 years and the number of people travelling from Swansea to Cardiff has increased in recent years. We must be doing something right.

The envy will eat away at you and make you a bitter person, neighbour.

Well said. Cardiff is a cosmopolitan city whereas Swansea is a place that is stuck in an 80s timewarp.

BTW Magicdaps does 'close knit' really mean incestuous ?

No, it doesn't. There is a traditional community spirit here that I suspect you wouldn't find in your "cosmopolitan" city. Please don't confuse close knit with incestuous. That's something you'd have to ask your cardiff tinker caravan dwelling bretherin about. Shouldn't be a problem, there's plenty of them about. Don't know why you would think swansea is stuck in the 80's? Have you actually been to swansea in the last 15 years? There has been massive regeneration of the dock and marina parts of town, and even the city centre is improving. Nothing on the scale of cardiff admittedly, but we more than make up for that by having a beautiful coastline, and gower peninsula on our doorstep.

I love the way the jacks claim the gower as their own but llandarcy, dunvant and bonymaen arent parts of jackland....

I last went to your crap town 5 or 6 years ago and it was bloody awful-not as bad as Liverpool or brum but a crap hole full of smack heads and drop outs. I love the way you keep quoting about Cardiff's traveller community. Rover Way is kept apart from the rest of our majestic city whereas your crap bits (dyfatty, high st) are bang in the middle.

Wilts, you and I have been down this road before. Even you eventually admitted in your own grudging way that I was right, and that the gower is very much a part of Swansea. I should know, I spent the first 28 years of my life living down the gower. Do I really have to dig up the link? I believe your words were something like.. we all know you're more or less right, but i don't care. Ring any bells? Yes, rover way is somewhat tucked away, but we all know its there. Same with Shirenewton. You seem to have conveniently forgotten about your "crap bits". Splott, adamsdown, riverside, ely, llanedeyrn, pentwyn, st mellons, grange town, bute town, etc etc. Would you call these places majestic? No, I thought not.

Wilts, you and I have been down this road before. Even you eventually admitted in your own grudging way that I was right, and that the gower is very much a part of Swansea. I should know, I spent the first 28 years of my life living down the gower. Do I really have to dig up the link? I believe your words were something like.. we all know you're more or less right, but i don't care. Ring any bells? Yes, rover way is somewhat tucked away, but we all know its there. Same with Shirenewton. You seem to have conveniently forgotten about your "crap bits". Splott, adamsdown, riverside, ely, llanedeyrn, pentwyn, st mellons, grange town, bute town, etc etc. Would you call these places majestic? No, I thought not.

Swansea has far more shit areas than its more illustrious neighbour. My brother had the misfortune to live in swansea a few years back and the only decent area is killay. As for your argument about the Gower being swansea we all know that it comes under the wider administrative area. Places like Penarth are in the admin area of cardiff but are not actually part of the city of cardiff just like Llangennech , Caswell Bay etc are not part of the city of swansea.

Wilts, you and I have been down this road before. Even you eventually admitted in your own grudging way that I was right, and that the gower is very much a part of Swansea. I should know, I spent the first 28 years of my life living down the gower. Do I really have to dig up the link? I believe your words were something like.. we all know you're more or less right, but i don't care. Ring any bells? Yes, rover way is somewhat tucked away, but we all know its there. Same with Shirenewton. You seem to have conveniently forgotten about your "crap bits". Splott, adamsdown, riverside, ely, llanedeyrn, pentwyn, st mellons, grange town, bute town, etc etc. Would you call these places majestic? No, I thought not.

Swansea has far more shit areas than its more illustrious neighbour. My brother had the misfortune to live in swansea a few years back and the only decent area is killay. As for your argument about the Gower being swansea we all know that it comes under the wider administrative area. Places like Penarth are in the admin area of cardiff but are not actually part of the city of cardiff just like Llangennech , Caswell Bay etc are not part of the city of swansea.

You really know nothing whatsoever about Swansea, if you think Killay is the only decent area. Is Mumbles a dump? What about Derwen Fawr? Newton? Bishopston? Gowerton? Dunvant? Penclawdd? Three crosses? West Cross? Black Pill? Are they all dumps? No, they are not. Yes, Swansea has its rough council estates, but in my experience they are no worse, and in many cases not as bad as some of the rougher parts of Cardiff I mentioned earlier.
Moving on now to the "gower isn't part of Swansea" part of your arguement. Simply put, it is. Firstly Penarth has got nothing to do with Cardiff. It is in the same proximity, geographically speaking, but Penarth is in the Vale of Glamorgan. Therfor, nothing to do with Cardiff. You mentioned Caswell bay is not part of Swansea. This is the nearest hotel I could find to Caswell bay..
140 Langland Road,
Mumbles,
Swansea, <<< This bit means it is within the city of Swansea!!
SA3 4LU
United Kingdom

This same rule applies for every single address on the entire gower peninsula. Every single resident will end their address with the word Swansea. Nothing to do with wider administrative area's. It simply means that the gower is part of the city of Swansea. Just because they are not in the city centre, doesn't mean they are not part of the city of Swansea. Please tell me you're not still seriously disputing this?

Wilts, you and I have been down this road before. Even you eventually admitted in your own grudging way that I was right, and that the gower is very much a part of Swansea. I should know, I spent the first 28 years of my life living down the gower. Do I really have to dig up the link? I believe your words were something like.. we all know you're more or less right, but i don't care. Ring any bells? Yes, rover way is somewhat tucked away, but we all know its there. Same with Shirenewton. You seem to have conveniently forgotten about your "crap bits". Splott, adamsdown, riverside, ely, llanedeyrn, pentwyn, st mellons, grange town, bute town, etc etc. Would you call these places majestic? No, I thought not.

Swansea has far more shit areas than its more illustrious neighbour. My brother had the misfortune to live in swansea a few years back and the only decent area is killay. As for your argument about the Gower being swansea we all know that it comes under the wider administrative area. Places like Penarth are in the admin area of cardiff but are not actually part of the city of cardiff just like Llangennech , Caswell Bay etc are not part of the city of swansea.

You really know nothing whatsoever about Swansea, if you think Killay is the only decent area. Is Mumbles a dump? What about Derwen Fawr? Newton? Bishopston? Gowerton? Dunvant? Penclawdd? Three crosses? West Cross? Black Pill? Are they all dumps? No, they are not. Yes, Swansea has its rough council estates, but in my experience they are no worse, and in many cases not as bad as some of the rougher parts of Cardiff I mentioned earlier.
Moving on now to the "gower isn't part of Swansea" part of your arguement. Simply put, it is. Firstly Penarth has got nothing to do with Cardiff. It is in the same proximity, geographically speaking, but Penarth is in the Vale of Glamorgan. Therfor, nothing to do with Cardiff. You mentioned Caswell bay is not part of Swansea. This is the nearest hotel I could find to Caswell bay..
140 Langland Road,
Mumbles,
Swansea, <<< This bit means it is within the city of Swansea!!
SA3 4LU
United Kingdom

This same rule applies for every single address on the entire gower peninsula. Every single resident will end their address with the word Swansea. Nothing to do with wider administrative area's. It simply means that the gower is part of the city of Swansea. Just because they are not in the city centre, doesn't mean they are not part of the city of Swansea. Please tell me you're not still seriously disputing this?

YAWN

YAWN!!! jacks trying to claim outside areas as being theirs the pathetic, desperate, wankers.

because I don't eat out of bins