Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:13 pm
Willy the Wombat wrote:taffyapple wrote:norfolkin welsh wrote:Svenghali puts in best in his longer post, but the crux of it is that Cameron has been making his own rules up and reneging on deals that were already done and dusted. This govt wants public sector workers to pay in an extra FIFTY PERCENT of their current contributions into their public sector pensions, up from 6.45 to 9.6% of gross pay. Get this bit, the govt then will pay back less than what was previously agreed, paying more for less effectively! The extra funds made by the pension contribution increases are for paying off accrued govt debts and NOT to put into existing pensions.
THATS WHY I AND MANY OF MY PUBLIC SECTOR COLLEAGES ARE STRIKING, WE MOSTLY EARN WAY BELOW THE £425 AVERAGE WEEKLY WAGE TOO, mostly ordinary people like me are hit the most, that is care workers, nurses, caretakers, teachers, road sweepers and the like who are always the first to get whacked.
I think the real crux of the matter is that Blair and now Cameron have continued
the work Thatcher did to vilify and alienate the Trade Unions to the extent that
most of Britain now thinks anyone mentioning the word STRIKE is an evil, good
for nothing greedy b*stard.
This means that all the money they save by f*cking workers off over pay rises and
pensions can go to where it REALLY matters....
Evil, good for nothing greedy fat cats/employers/tax-dodging 'Lords of the Realm'
and erm.... Politicians!
Mrs Thatcher did more for the workers of this country than any politician had done in several generations. Unfortunately she did piss off the "money men" as they were next. Major, Blair, Cameron, oba bin obama, just puppets of a sad world. The workers united will never be defeated, we just got to lick 14 years of wounds and start again.
Two nil to those of us that bother sheep
Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:04 pm
taffyapple wrote:norfolkin welsh wrote:Svenghali puts in best in his longer post, but the crux of it is that Cameron has been making his own rules up and reneging on deals that were already done and dusted. This govt wants public sector workers to pay in an extra FIFTY PERCENT of their current contributions into their public sector pensions, up from 6.45 to 9.6% of gross pay. Get this bit, the govt then will pay back less than what was previously agreed, paying more for less effectively! The extra funds made by the pension contribution increases are for paying off accrued govt debts and NOT to put into existing pensions.
THATS WHY I AND MANY OF MY PUBLIC SECTOR COLLEAGES ARE STRIKING, WE MOSTLY EARN WAY BELOW THE £425 AVERAGE WEEKLY WAGE TOO, mostly ordinary people like me are hit the most, that is care workers, nurses, caretakers, teachers, road sweepers and the like who are always the first to get whacked.
I think the real crux of the matter is that Blair and now Cameron have continued
the work Thatcher did to vilify and alienate the Trade Unions to the extent that
most of Britain now thinks anyone mentioning the word STRIKE is an evil, good
for nothing greedy b*stard.
This means that all the money they save by f*cking workers off over pay rises and
pensions can go to where it REALLY matters....
Evil, good for nothing greedy fat cats/employers/tax-dodging 'Lords of the Realm'
and erm.... Politicians!
Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:01 am
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:NJ73 wrote:Public sector pensions have been profitable for years and years. This profit has gone back to the exchequer and has been spent by the Government.
Now the Government has run out of money, they expect public sector workers to contribute more again. These pensions were only revised a couple of years ago to the detriment of those paying in and now the Government wants to move the goalposts again.
And for those saying Public Sector employees are well paid, whether they be pen pushers or not, are talking absolute rubbish. I work in the public sector and have had to take a 2% pay cut this year having had no pay rise for the 3 previous years as well as a £200 a year charge to park my car in the office car park.
Well said. The government has wasted billions of pounds through sheer waste.
The frustrating thing is that MPs have yet to sort out their pensions. These people should sort themselves out first and lead by example.
I work in public sector and am on reasonable money. The frustrating thing is that millions is wasted thanks to the pen pushers. THe Health Service has too many chiefs and not enough Indians (more managers than Doctors). The Education system has OFSTED (costs over £200million per year and many inspectors are failed headteachers). Local Government is overran with admin staff and risk assessors etc.
Finally we have 650 MPs screwing the country. We could save millions by getting rid of half our MPs.
Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:53 am
Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:16 am
NJ73 wrote:Public sector pensions have been profitable for years and years. This profit has gone back to the exchequer and has been spent by the Government.
Now the Government has run out of money, they expect public sector workers to contribute more again. These pensions were only revised a couple of years ago to the detriment of those paying in and now the Government wants to move the goalposts again.
And for those saying Public Sector employees are well paid, whether they be pen pushers or not, are talking absolute rubbish. I work in the public sector and have had to take a 2% pay cut this year having had no pay rise for the 3 previous years as well as a £200 a year charge to park my car in the office car park.
Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:48 pm
Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:54 pm
Big Boss Man wrote:We have no money left so something has to give.
Private sector pension schemes are fucked thanks to the last shitty Govt.
I always feel sorry for the lowest paid workers in the private sector.
All they will have is a state pension.
Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:02 pm
Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:19 pm
Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:32 pm
birchblue wrote:It winds me up they need to get over it they are working till there 65 just like me and everyone else why strike and piss people off
Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:03 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote:Disgraceful behaviour with people not going to work today when millions have no job due to the economic climate. Unions are a compete pain in the arse.
Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:18 pm
Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:03 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote:Disgraceful behaviour with people not going to work today when millions have no job due to the economic climate. Unions are a compete pain in the arse.
Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:12 pm
Pontyclun Blue wrote:birchblue wrote:It winds me up they need to get over it they are working till there 65 just like me and everyone else why strike and piss people off
68 Teachers will be working till, know all the facts 1st
Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:16 pm
Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:52 pm