Johnny Rythmn wrote:Forever Blue wrote:At the end of the day as British Citizens, who pay our tax's, We should without doubt all be allowed to vote on this issue.

You, like me and 90 percent or may be more than 90 per cent of the population haven't a clue about world economics.
So, why should you be allowed to vote on something you know feck all about?
Your decision like many others will be a nationalistic vote but have I got news for you?
Britain is skint, It has been since the early 1900s. It was bailed out by the yanks after the second world war and has never repaid the debt....unlike Ireland.
Remember the 1970s? Now what got you out of that hole was North Sea Oil (Scottish) and guess what it's nearly all run out and the profits and invetment policies were spunked up by Maggie and her cronies.
It's time for change ok but the change must be to form allegiances with the everyday people of europe and the world.
The Generals who send our kids to die on the battlefields, the bankers who gamble with our money and take more from us when they lose it and the corrupt poloticians who allow this to happen and live luxurious lifestyles funded by our taxes are not your fellow countrymen they are thieves and murderers.
There's only two nationalities on this planet today, the exploiters and the exploited.
Oh dear, Oh dear, woe is me.
Where on earth did you get that complete and utter load of nonsense from? You f*cking bog Irish or someting? I shouldn't bite but will and take your "points" one by one, I'll try to make it simple, easy to read but won't provide back up links, there will be numerous and I really can't be arsed but here goes.
"You, like me and 90 percent or may be more than 90 per cent of the population haven't a clue about world economics."
Blame the left wing education system introduced under Blairs watch. Prior to those bunch of clowns most children were given a basic grounding in Macro Economics, you might not have known it at the time but you were. (My Primary and Secondary education was in Wales, probably the best in the world apart from Ireland and free). If you couldn't see it at the time that's not the fault of the government is it?
"Your decision like many others will be a nationalistic vote but have I got news for you?"
Nope, I'm reading ahead but you appear have an opinion that is not your own. Forget the morons on CCMB with their rascism on every corner attitude, small minds bring small minded thinking, the Sheeple concept (should have copyrighted that one). Do you have concept of a "nationalistic" vote? Who or which "nation" would be voting for what exactly? You may say Wales for example, I could toss in Yorkshire, larger population than Wales, contains more morons, dickheads and other idiots as it is bigger. Should the folk of Yorkshire have a nationalistic vote?
"Britain is skint, It has been since the early 1900s. It was bailed out by the yanks after the second world war and has never repaid the debt....unlike Ireland."
Probably the most inept thing I've ever seen on the internet, not even the most rabid communist would think that. We, Britain, took a massive hit following the end of the First World War financially, the cost in human life can never ever be quantified. You are one lucky male that you were born in this era, 96 to 100 years ago chances are that you would be lying in bits somewhere in Belgium, France, Mesopotamia, Turkey or some other corner of a foreign land.
As to your second point on this one, yes the American Central Bank did lend Britain money to fight the National Socialists of Germany in the form of lend lease. A private banking company that effectively hedged their bets, they also lent money to National Socialist of Germany so a bit of a win win situation. This debt was finally paid by Mrs.Thatcher, not personally or with her husbands money but by prudent budgets by her government. If you want to enlighten your own tiny little mind you could argue that the tax payers of the UK paid the debt to the Central Bank (yes they do call themselves that) for murder of our people. Probably a bit too advanced though Eh?
"Remember the 1970s? Now what got you out of that hole was North Sea Oil (Scottish) and guess what it's nearly all run out and the profits and invetment policies were spunked up by Maggie and her cronies."
Yes, very well, the pre Thatcher (and her cronies) days. Very dark days indeed, literally, lights out two to three days per week, was great as a kid I did actually look foward to the days when the country didn't have electricity as some union or other were on strike about some bollocks or other, cos we had candles. Yes we were lucky, we had candles, my grandfather (I was brought up by my grandparents) worked every hour he could at very, very low wages as he worked for himself, no jobs then under the glorious socialist government, (the ultimate c**t of all time, darling of the lefy fuckwits, Sir Anthony Wedgewood Benn was given the job creation role) so I do remember. Again your second point is way out in CCMB land, there are masses of oil/gas reserves under the North Sea, some more difficult than others to extract but that is another debate that is too complex for you I'm afraid. I can explain the techniques and how its done if you wish so pm me.
The third part of the sentence contradicts the first section, I'm not going to be a left wing prick and pull you up on a simple keyboard error (there's probably a few in my response) but investment policies? Most of the tax revenue from North Sea Oil was used to sort the previous governments f**k ups, both political parties not just the previous Labour administration who in all fairness were on a hiding to nothing.
"It's time for change ok but the change must be to form allegiances with the everyday people of europe and the world.
The Generals who send our kids to die on the battlefields, the bankers who gamble with our money and take more from us when they lose it and the corrupt poloticians who allow this to happen and live luxurious lifestyles funded by our taxes are not your fellow countrymen they are thieves and murderers.
There's only two nationalities on this planet today, the exploiters and the exploited"
OK! I'm 48, rebelled in my youth as we all do, at very early age (my first rebellion I think I was about four, when after dinner, lunch I believe its called now, we all had to go to sleep, I did'nt want to go to sleep, I wanted to stab the posh c**t with this screwdriver I'd been given, my greatgrandfather had to come on many occassions to take me home). Willy has digressed, sorry. I don't think you'll find too many allegiances in europe, most of the folk I've met and it is a lot, don't really give a shit, they just get on with they own lives as best they can, pay the taxes if it really can't be avoided and just chill.
As for the second to last sentence, look up War Pigs by Black Sabbath, very early seventies top tune.
There are no problems only solutions
Enjoy your life, you only get one best make the most of it Eh?