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Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:49 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:American Justice what a joke in his summing up the judge said the jurors have to wait 90 days before they can sell their story. for fucks sake

Exactly :roll:

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:51 pm

IF HE WASNT A SINGER......HE WOULD OF BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE.

I DONT RECALL SEEING ANY DRUG DEALERS BEING ARRESTED OF MURDER BECAUSE THEY SOLD THE DRUGS TO THE BUYERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:51 pm

BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.


I love CCFC but not everyone does , Muppet


And thats ment to mean? Thanks for the personal insult!! Now whos the muppet! :)

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:52 pm

AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:54 pm

bluebird04 wrote:IF HE WASNT A SINGER......HE WOULD OF BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE.

I DONT RECALL SEEING ANY DRUG DEALERS BEING ARRESTED OF MURDER BECAUSE THEY SOLD THE DRUGS TO THE BUYERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

Bollocks.

There was no evidence that Michael Jackson ever molested children.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:55 pm

AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.


I love CCFC but not everyone does , Muppet


And thats ment to mean? Thanks for the personal insult!! Now whos the muppet! :)


Not an insult just an aside.
How the hell can you generalise and say America loved MJ
I can guarantee any real man that had kids bloody detested him. Sorry but thats what I think.
I can guarantee any real man that had children hated the bones of him.
Last edited by Grumpyguts on Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:55 pm

carl be fair and honest here. how many people do you see "shouting" JACKSON is guilty in america......america LOVES jackson, evidence was with his "this is it" tour......for all we know these jurors (however its spelt) could of be huge fans...this was never going to be a fair trial.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:56 pm

carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.


America gave MJ a life where he was in the lime light for the rest of his life. Without America, Michael Jackson would have been singing in small clubs around a small town. So to say they tried to destroy him is far from it. Name one man in this world who has sleep overs with dozens of kids... Like I said, not a Fair Trial. MJ knew what Murray was doing.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:59 pm

AfanBluebird wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.


America gave MJ a life where he was in the lime light for the rest of his life. Without America, Michael Jackson would have been singing in small clubs around a small town. So to say they tried to destroy him is far from it. Name one man in this world who has sleep overs with dozens of kids... Like I said, not a Fair Trial. MJ knew what Murray was doing.

We are talking of an America post 1993 they tried to destroy him, they searched his home twice, they arrested him once, they took naked photos of him and accused him of the most heinous crime a man could ever be accused of without evidence.

America tried to destroy him and in many respects they succeeded

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:59 pm

AfanBluebird wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.


America gave MJ a life where he was in the lime light for the rest of his life. Without America, Michael Jackson would have been singing in small clubs around a small town. So to say they tried to destroy him is far from it. Name one man in this world who has sleep overs with dozens of kids... Like I said, not a Fair Trial. MJ knew what Murray was doing.


Can you not understand what he did as a Doctor was illegal, potentionaly deadly, and completely ruins the trust that the medical profession has earned.
Why the hell was he charging $150.000 a month. BECAUSE HE KNEW IT WAS ILLEGAL AND WRONG!!!!!

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:21 pm

Michael Jackson was a brilliant musician, one of the best.

Fred West was a f*cking good builder.

both were off their f*cking heads though.

Jackson denied bleaching his skin, denied having reconstructive surgery
denied sleeping in an oxygen tent, Sorry Michael, but the evidence for all this was
overwhelming.

He ADMITTED sleeping with teen boys but denied there was anything sexual about it.

Sorry Michael, but normal 50yr old men DO NOT share their beds and have sleep-overs
with little boys. In America he's still an icon. In Britain hed be called a nonce

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:22 pm

For me M J was a junkie.....his behaviour showed his self hatred quite plainly.....ive been in many of the top London detoxs, even the one where Micheal and bubbles checked into in the first trial of child molestation,I once met a Arab man who had been in that same detox in marylebone for over 2 years, I asked him why you been here that long, he said that what other hotel do you know whereby you can go to the reception and have your Valium increased.....M J could afford to manipulate Doctors like the guy who will take the wrap today.....oh by the way.....detox is my occupation.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:23 pm

taffyapple wrote:Michael Jackson was a brilliant musician, one of the best.

Fred West was a f*cking good builder.

both were off their f*cking heads though.

Jackson denied bleaching his skin, denied having reconstructive surgery
denied sleeping in an oxygen tent, Sorry Michael, but the evidence for all this was
overwhelming.

He ADMITTED sleeping with teen boys but denied there was anything sexual about it.

Sorry Michael, but normal 50yr old men DO NOT share their beds and have sleep-overs
with little boys. In America he's still an icon. In Britain hed be called a nonce



You have got that soooo right Taffy :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:43 pm

Now that the trial is over, perhaps the Jackson 4 can start to tour again ;)

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:45 pm

taffyapple wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
taffyapple wrote:My thoughts were with Jacksons children from the day he had them.
Poor little buggers

They loved their father and if this trial did anything it showed the world how caring, loving and devoted father Michael Jackson was.


Well. My way of looking at Michael Jackson is... would i have ever left
my kids with him when they were small, and the answer is a categoric NO :ayatollah:





^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:47 pm

A right f*cking oddball. Had a discussion with carl in the ninian saturday about MJ he obvs loves him, and tied me in nots because its a topic that doesnt intrest me.
But I still believe he would have died on tour anyway, no way could a man in his mental and physical condition flick a switch and do 60 odd gigs.
Its like Baz waking up and running a marathon. :shock:

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:14 pm

carlccfc wrote:The jury in the Conrad Murray trial have finished their deliberations and in 2 hours time we will hear their verdict.

Thoughts are with Michaels children at this time and the rest of his family.


Bit of a joke this, in that type of situ Jackson will just be telling his doctor what he wants, ordering him to give him this and that. The guy was a mess. Doctor caught between a rock and a hard place if ever there was one.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:50 pm

carlccfc wrote:
bluebird04 wrote:IF HE WASNT A SINGER......HE WOULD OF BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE.

I DONT RECALL SEEING ANY DRUG DEALERS BEING ARRESTED OF MURDER BECAUSE THEY SOLD THE DRUGS TO THE BUYERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

Bollocks.

There was no evidence that Michael Jackson ever molested children.



thats not the point though carl, if he wasnt a singer, and admited to sleeping with several kids but without anything sexual and be accused of sexual abuse EVERYONE would be up in arms, however because its michael jackson, people say, "no evidence means hes innocent"........Amanda Knox was found innocent at a retrial over the murder of meredith kercher, over a lack of evidence but it doesnt mean shes innocent

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:59 am

That the closest we are going to get to an update from now on?

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:55 am

taffyapple wrote:Michael Jackson was a brilliant musician, one of the best.

Fred West was a f*cking good builder.

both were off their f*cking heads though.

Jackson denied bleaching his skin, denied having reconstructive surgery
denied sleeping in an oxygen tent, Sorry Michael, but the evidence for all this was
overwhelming.

He ADMITTED sleeping with teen boys but denied there was anything sexual about it.

Sorry Michael, but normal 50yr old men DO NOT share their beds and have sleep-overs
with little boys. In America he's still an icon. In Britain hed be called a nonce


Haha, too true :ayatollah: :lol:

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:16 pm

Big Bloo are you scizophrenic?

Cannot tell which side of the fence you are on here? :?

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:50 pm

polo wrote:Big Bloo are you scizophrenic?

Cannot tell which side of the fence you are on here? :?


I'm not schizophrenic. And neither am I ;)

I think the Doc went for the "DIRTY DOLLAR"

I think MJ was a naive but despicable, extremely talented screwed up fella.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:20 am

carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.



Agreed. Unfortunately Jackson never had the right people around him, he always had people around him to make money off him.

No doubt Jackson had issues but he wasn't the monster people claimed.

For instance, if he REALLY abused that kid no money in the world would EVER had stopped them from following through and seeing the guy in jail.... Instead they were all too quick to take the money. When you research the case it is amazing that even in the early days of the process the family were looking forward to a pay day.

Of course if Jackson had decent people around him they would have advised and guided him so that the situation never arose. There were some dark forces trying to bring Jackson down for sue.

Also, his kids are a credit to him which in turn proves what a great and loving father he was.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:57 pm

AfricanBluebird wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.



Agreed. Unfortunately Jackson never had the right people around him, he always had people around him to make money off him.

No doubt Jackson had issues but he wasn't the monster people claimed.

For instance, if he REALLY abused that kid no money in the world would EVER had stopped them from following through and seeing the guy in jail.... Instead they were all too quick to take the money. When you research the case it is amazing that even in the early days of the process the family were looking forward to a pay day.

Of course if Jackson had decent people around him they would have advised and guided him so that the situation never arose. There were some dark forces trying to bring Jackson down for sue.

Also, his kids are a credit to him which in turn proves what a great and loving father he was.


The only good thing about Michael Jackson as a parent was his grip.

Otherwise one of them would have ended up as jam on a Paris pavement

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:08 pm

taffyapple wrote:
AfricanBluebird wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.



Agreed. Unfortunately Jackson never had the right people around him, he always had people around him to make money off him.

No doubt Jackson had issues but he wasn't the monster people claimed.

For instance, if he REALLY abused that kid no money in the world would EVER had stopped them from following through and seeing the guy in jail.... Instead they were all too quick to take the money. When you research the case it is amazing that even in the early days of the process the family were looking forward to a pay day.

Of course if Jackson had decent people around him they would have advised and guided him so that the situation never arose. There were some dark forces trying to bring Jackson down for sue.

Also, his kids are a credit to him which in turn proves what a great and loving father he was.


The only good thing about Michael Jackson as a parent was his grip.

Otherwise one of them would have ended up as jam on a Paris pavement


To right T A if it had been one of us doing that,we would have had our kid's taken away from us!!!! :twisted:

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:45 pm

carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
BIGBLOO VANE wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Jackson knew what was going into his body, and could have said no or got rid of Doctor Murray, but instead kept him as a close friend. 8 of the Jury were Jackson Fans, so he was guilty from day one.


You are totally wrong!!


And you know that for a fact? Like someone has already said, America loves Jackson, So from day one Murray was guilty. Fair Trial my ass.

Get your facts right. America tried to destroy Michael Jackson.


America gave MJ a life where he was in the lime light for the rest of his life. Without America, Michael Jackson would have been singing in small clubs around a small town. So to say they tried to destroy him is far from it. Name one man in this world who has sleep overs with dozens of kids... Like I said, not a Fair Trial. MJ knew what Murray was doing.

We are talking of an America post 1993 they tried to destroy him, they searched his home twice, they arrested him once, they took naked photos of him and accused him of the most heinous crime a man could ever be accused of without evidence.

America tried to destroy him and in many respects they succeeded

And the whole time he was being "persecuted" what on earth did his family do???
The same family whose Father would beat him, the same family who stood by and let a Doctor be paid £100,00 amonth to administer his special drugs come on Murray is guilty so is the family, they stood by when he was having cosmetic surgery after cosmetic surgery.Why didn't they speak up Absolute hypocrites the lot of them.

Re: VERDICT HAS BEEN REACHED

Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:55 am

the fella should have a medal not a prison sentance