i must admit sam hamman wouldnt have

I honestly believe it will all be sorted once and for all this season

City are first whatever happens, but I also back Sam as everyone knows.

Annis I second that comment and I am proud to say that I back Sam Hammam as I believe in him, I have read a few times in this thread "Why hasn't he taken the club to court, if he has a good case", answer being he cares for the club and the fans.

Whether people believe it, I don't really care but I believe him.

I honestly believe it will all be sorted once and for all this season

City are first whatever happens, but I also back Sam as everyone knows.

Annis I second that comment and I am proud to say that I back Sam Hammam as I believe in him, I have read a few times in this thread "Why hasn't he taken the club to court, if he has a good case", answer being he cares for the club and the fans.

Whether people believe it, I don't really care but I believe him.

So why did Sam/Langstone take Cardiff City to court in 2008?

I'm playing devils advocate here.

I've LONG since decided to sit on the fence, because I think NONE of us really
know the truth, and the whole issue will eventually be resolved by who can best
manipulate the wordings of the various agreements in their favour.

Thing is though Steve, that's all I ever see from the anti-Sam movement is lots of assumptions and if's. If Sam this then if Sam that. Then people make firm conclusions based on those if's. I don't think it's fair to slate the guy based on if's. Whenever people try to side with Sam then they are asked to produce "evidence" etc.

Lets suppose Sam was clever enough to hide all this behind Langston. Don't you think he'd be clever enough to hide his involvement anyway? So to assume that's the reason behind no court case is well wide of the mark. Like I said before though, it doesn't matter who the investors are, the money is owed. Simple as that, live with it and stop looking for ways around paying the debts. Isn't the Langston thing only there because Citibank called their debt in? If that's the case then shouldn't we be a little bit greatful for Langston for stepping in and manning up to the responsiblity?

So Berwyn. If I borrowed your credit card and spent your money in my shop, so much so infact that you couldn't afford to pay me for it all. I think you'd be more inclined to call that theft than debt

Berwyn the books were never going to balance when he was paying himself outrageous consultancy fees and paying absurd amounts of money for the likes of Gavin Gordon, Scott Mculloch, and Andy Campbell to name but a few.

My cousin, who was also paid well, maybe slightly more than the market value for leagues two and one, but he had come from the championship told me that the sums of wages being paid to squad members who were parks footballers at best were shocking.

Andy Campbell was one of the worst players he played with and his contract was astronomical. Ironically a lot of Sams supporters now stick the boot into the Ridler for inflated contracts but Sam was much worse than PR in terms of what he was paying players compared to their true worth.

Yeah, we all enjoyed the ride, but it could have still been acheived without being so cavalier and with total disgregard for the clubs finances.

Quite how anyone can paint Sam as the victim in all this is bordering on lunacy.

Who's your cousin minty?

I honestly believe it will all be sorted once and for all this season

City are first whatever happens, but I also back Sam as everyone knows.

Annis I second that comment and I am proud to say that I back Sam Hammam as I believe in him, I have read a few times in this thread "Why hasn't he taken the club to court, if he has a good case", answer being he cares for the club and the fans.

Whether people believe it, I don't really care but I believe him.

So why did Sam/Langstone take Cardiff City to court in 2008?

I'm playing devils advocate here.

I've LONG since decided to sit on the fence, because I think NONE of us really
know the truth, and the whole issue will eventually be resolved by who can best
manipulate the wordings of the various agreements in their favour.

Dave, Because the Riddler Stabbed Sam in the back and totally lied to him, its to long to write up.

I honestly believe it will all be sorted once and for all this season

City are first whatever happens, but I also back Sam as everyone knows.

Annis I second that comment and I am proud to say that I back Sam Hammam as I believe in him, I have read a few times in this thread "Why hasn't he taken the club to court, if he has a good case", answer being he cares for the club and the fans.

Whether people believe it, I don't really care but I believe him.

carl

whilst i appreciate your sentiments regarding sam and i recognise the dig regarding not going to court is probably aimed at me the fact of the matter is you are stating sam is holding back because he loves the club but legally and documented in the courts is the fact that he has denied being langston so from that point of view he has no say in the issue as he is only a representitive and that decision is out of his hands.
You yourself in a thread on this board said you thought sam was not langston but langston were hedgefunders.
I have a set of rudgewick accounts from a few years back which show 25 million pounds in the bank. the next years accounts show more than 24 million pounds had been spent ironically the sam year the citi bank debt was paid off.
I still say the debt will be negotiated and there will be no court case.
incidentally i think about 10 million is the right figure he should get back

I honestly believe it will all be sorted once and for all this season

City are first whatever happens, but I also back Sam as everyone knows.

Annis I second that comment and I am proud to say that I back Sam Hammam as I believe in him, I have read a few times in this thread "Why hasn't he taken the club to court, if he has a good case", answer being he cares for the club and the fans.

Whether people believe it, I don't really care but I believe him.

carl

whilst i appreciate your sentiments regarding sam and i recognise the dig regarding not going to court is probably aimed at me the fact of the matter is you are stating sam is holding back because he loves the club but legally and documented in the courts is the fact that he has denied being langston so from that point of view he has no say in the issue as he is only a representitive and that decision is out of his hands.
You yourself in a thread on this board said you thought sam was not langston but langston were hedgefunders.
I have a set of rudgewick accounts from a few years back which show 25 million pounds in the bank. the next years accounts show more than 24 million pounds had been spent ironically the sam year the citi bank debt was paid off.
I still say the debt will be negotiated and there will be no court case.
incidentally i think about 10 million is the right figure he should get back

good comeback