Re: QPR - Their Charges, and the rules broken
Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:52 pm
QPR fan in peace. 
The complex question of Faurlin's 'ownership' off the field at the time he was registered is the issue - it's an argument about what is revealingly known as a player's 'economic rights'. Teams who have been docked points have invariably fielded players whose actual registration with the club in question was the main point at issue, and that is not the case here. Faurlin was registered with the Rs, the point at issue is the mechanism by which this arrangement took place.
QPR would have the option of appealing not just to the English football authorities, but further afield: I've heard the Council for Arbitration in Sport mentioned as one of several possible appeal avenues, in addition to the local channels. Furthermore, it could be argued that the appeal window is insufficient timewise for a considered response given the complexity of the case. What I'm saying here is that the appeals process could very easily drag on beyond the play offs, should QPR see fit to appeal.
However, the real moral of this story is not about QPR. It's about who owns our football clubs, and who they invite onto the board. It's also about the involvement of agents at boardroom level.
Be careful what you wish for. How much faith do you have in the integrity of your owners? What is their political and financial background? What is the relationship between board members / management and agents? End of the day, its the fans who take it where the sun dont shines when it all goes wrong, and our sport being such big business makes it even harder for us to make our voices heard, never mind take control. I'll still support Rs if we get kicked out of the league, end of.
Its not just about iffy foreign involvement. Allardyce, Harry, and SAF all have a compromising history of relatoinships with agents. The media's record in following these issues up is abysmal, one might almost think a deal had been done
The complex question of Faurlin's 'ownership' off the field at the time he was registered is the issue - it's an argument about what is revealingly known as a player's 'economic rights'. Teams who have been docked points have invariably fielded players whose actual registration with the club in question was the main point at issue, and that is not the case here. Faurlin was registered with the Rs, the point at issue is the mechanism by which this arrangement took place.
QPR would have the option of appealing not just to the English football authorities, but further afield: I've heard the Council for Arbitration in Sport mentioned as one of several possible appeal avenues, in addition to the local channels. Furthermore, it could be argued that the appeal window is insufficient timewise for a considered response given the complexity of the case. What I'm saying here is that the appeals process could very easily drag on beyond the play offs, should QPR see fit to appeal.
However, the real moral of this story is not about QPR. It's about who owns our football clubs, and who they invite onto the board. It's also about the involvement of agents at boardroom level.
Be careful what you wish for. How much faith do you have in the integrity of your owners? What is their political and financial background? What is the relationship between board members / management and agents? End of the day, its the fans who take it where the sun dont shines when it all goes wrong, and our sport being such big business makes it even harder for us to make our voices heard, never mind take control. I'll still support Rs if we get kicked out of the league, end of.
Its not just about iffy foreign involvement. Allardyce, Harry, and SAF all have a compromising history of relatoinships with agents. The media's record in following these issues up is abysmal, one might almost think a deal had been done
Re: QPR - Their Charges, and the rules broken
Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:59 pm
Welcome aboard Seattle, this board is looking more like a hoops fan board every day. Love to see some QPR opinions other than from our old mucker and eternal optimist Stan.
Re: QPR - Their Charges, and the rules broken
Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:35 pm
I'Ll respond in morning now!
Off to bed
Off to bed
Re: QPR - Their Charges, and the rules broken
Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:34 am
Seattle, IF QPR appeal the IRC's sanctions, then they will have 4 days to appeal and wait a further 2 days for the response. That's 6days in total - and right on queue for the very first playoff semi final tie!
Re: QPR - Their Charges, and the rules broken
Thu May 05, 2011 9:41 am
The Premier 1 wrote:i have contacted the minister of sport Hugh Robertson on the issue of leaked information seeing as there is a supposed judgment prior to any hearing,
hes not best pleased with the FA and the way it runs english football as it is, this was the reply.Thank you for your e-mail address to Hugh. It has come through to his constituency office rather than his Departmental Desk. I will pass it onto his Department but if you need to contact him you should do it via:
Hugh Robertson Esq MP
Minister of Sport
DCMS
2 - 4 Cockspur Street
London SW1Y5DH
Dhoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
nevermind he will get it prior to the hearing im sure
just recieved this
Dear Andrew
Thank you for your email to Hugh Robertson.
I appreciate your concerns that the most appropriate verdict is reached in this case about Queens Park Rangers FC.
However, I should explain that sport is autonomous and it is not for Government to intervene in the rules and regulations of football. This is the responsibility of the football authorities in this country and we await their verdict on the matter involving QPR.
Yours sincerely
Colin Burton
Olympics, Sport and Leisure Team|Ministerial Support Team
Department for Culture, Media and Sport |2-4 Cockspur Street |London |SW1Y 5DH
; www.culture.gov.uk
A BRUSH OFF