Disgusted by what I have read on here tonight

The exteme idiots who demonstrate hatred toward us but claim benefits should be charged and sent home.

There are many hard working foriegn people who live in this country and respect the way the british live however they should not be put together in the same package with these extreme nutters who hate britain but spunge off the system.

The main point they can come here claim benefits cause total mayhem declaring hatred and wanting mass death towards every person who lives in the UK can cause arguments on message boards like this cause main news headlines and we can not touch them as they have human rights however if a Uk person went over their country and treated their law the same way they would be killed.

All this to me is unfair it is time the normal Uk tax payer got human rights and protection from these extreme nutters who want to cause mayhem and murder inocent people going about their lives.

The exteme idiots who demonstrate hatred toward us but claim benefits should be charged and sent home.

There are many hard working foriegn people who live in this country and respect the way the british live however they should not be put together in the same package with these extreme nutters who hate britain but spunge off the system.

The main point they can come here claim benefits cause total mayhem declaring hatred and wanting mass death towards every person who lives in the UK can cause arguments on message boards like this cause main news headlines and we can not touch them as they have human rights however if a Uk person went over their country and treated their law the same way they would be killed.

All this to me is unfair it is time the normal Uk tax payer got human rights and protection from these extreme nutters who want to cause mayhem and murder inocent people going about their lives.

Could not agree more

The exteme idiots who demonstrate hatred toward us but claim benefits should be charged and sent home.

There are many hard working foriegn people who live in this country and respect the way the british live however they should not be put together in the same package with these extreme nutters who hate britain but spunge off the system.
The main point they can come here claim benefits cause total mayhem declaring hatred and wanting mass death towards every person who lives in the UK can cause arguments on message boards like this cause main news headlines and we can not touch them as they have human rights however if a Uk person went over their country and treated their law the same way they would be killed.

All this to me is unfair it is time the normal Uk tax payer got human rights and protection from these extreme nutters who want to cause mayhem and murder inocent people going about their lives.

Good post.

There have been way too many post effectively hammering ALL muslims/immigrants because of the actions of a minority of unstable nutters .

Anybody casually viewing this board over the past few days would swear that for the most part we're bunch of banjo playing hicks.

check out this clip, this guys a legend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5cWwuq ... _embedded#!

check out this clip, this guys a legend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5cWwuq ... _embedded#!

A legend in his own lunchtime.

An ex BNP member who spent 12 months in prison for assaulting an off duty copper. He doesn't even use his real name when he leads the EDL.

Look, any right thinking person would agree that Muslim extremists need to be clamped down on severely but supporting a bunch of feral knuckledraggers like the EDL with their thinly veiled racism is not the answer.

Muslims pay tribute to UK's armed forces
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10498482
A group of Muslim women have laid a wreath at the National Memorial Arboretum in honour of those who died fighting for the UK.quote]

the wreath proberly lined with explosives , its all a act, they dont really care

so muslims are now not allowed to mourn their own dead who served bravely for this country. Do me a favour, pick up a rifle and stand a post, and when you do youll realise that colour or the creed of the man standing next to you means nothing and everyone is equal.

recent memorial service to docks people of all background who served in royal and merchant navy duruing the wars and helped the country keep going

lot of ill informed rubbish on here about muslims

good and bad in all races and religions

was adolf hitler a muslim ?

he was a bit of a cnut from what I have read

recent memorial service to docks people of all background who served in royal and merchant navy duruing the wars and helped the country keep going

lot of ill informed rubbish on here about muslims

good and bad in all races and religions

was adolf hitler a muslim ?

he was a bit of a cnut from what I have read

correct i know its hard to believe but there are some bad eggs among the city fans.... but at least their hearts in the right place

Alfie mate you havent got a jar of glue have you? Half of Cardiff are up in arms here, and the edl are just people the same as you whove had enough of these loons who want to kill us. Dont forget that millenium stadium was one target they looked at a few years ago. M15 say they are following 2000 potential bombers at any one time and they put the number of muslims who think 9/11 was jsutified in this country at 100,000. And there you are slating british people for trying to stand up against it.

Theres plenty of racists and people with long criminal records following the city or hadnt you noticed?

there was about 3 cardiff city fans on that english defence league march

and that was being generous

half of cardiff my arse

knock it on the head

Alfie mate you havent got a jar of glue have you? Half of Cardiff are up in arms here, and the edl are just people the same as you whove had enough of these loons who want to kill us. Dont forget that millenium stadium was one target they looked at a few years ago. M15 say they are following 2000 potential bombers at any one time and they put the number of muslims who think 9/11 was jsutified in this country at 100,000. And there you are slating british people for trying to stand up against it.

Theres plenty of racists and people with long criminal records following the city or hadnt you noticed?

I reiterate what I wrote in my earlier posts.

The Islamic extremists are scum and the full weight of the law should come down on them. I've also stated on other threads that if you abuse the hospitality offered by any country you should be kicked out. But here is where you and I differ... I have no desire to lump together all Muslims and suggest that they all support terrorism.

You may well also be comfortable with fellow posters suggesting that muslims should be exterminated and that Europe needs another Hitler to wipe them out. I am not.

You think that the EDL are the answer. I think they are mostly knuckledraggers who get a kick out of the potential for violence at their 'marches.'

The way to deal with the small proportion of nutters who want to blow us up in the name of Islam is to let the authorities deal with them. If that means getting tougher when it comes to infringements of civil liberties so be it.

What we don't need is the racist EDL/BNP muddying the waters and creating more divisions.

Its best to share your opinions after hearing others ad leave it at that...other wise you'll give yourself a stroke...thats the other half's job. Opinions are constructive & destructive all at the same time, you gotta know when to draw the line. I watch football to get away from intense shit like this. THE END! XX

sludge, read what i said mate, i never said anything about cardiff lads being on an edl march i said "half of cardiff is up in arms here" by that i meant they are right pissed off about the poppy burning incident, f*cking left wing clown

and theres a good few high profile cardiff lads who were high up in c18 not so long ago and a few have been caught seig heiling recently at cardiff games, including the player who was in europe with simmo on that programme

i bet theres more bad behaviour at your average city away than on any edl march and thats a fact

ALFIE ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WITH YOUR DO GOODER COMMENTS WHO PISS PEOPLE OFF AND HAVE GOT THIS COUNTRY IN SUCH A SHIT STATE. LEAVE YOUR PREACHING FOR STREET CORNERS AND LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD. MUPPET.

ALFIE ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WITH YOUR DO GOODER COMMENTS WHO PISS PEOPLE OFF AND HAVE GOT THIS COUNTRY IN SUCH A SHIT STATE. LEAVE YOUR PREACHING FOR STREET CORNERS AND LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD. MUPPET.

Bollocks.

When have I defended Muslim extremists ?

I think the words I used for them was scum and morons.

I will never support the EDL/BNP because I think they have the wrong approach to dealing with the problem.

Serious question for you footsoldier...Do you believe that the actions of a small minority of Muslim nutters mean that all Muslims should be treated like shit ?

us cardiff fans are treated like shit across the country by police because of the actions of a minority of our supporters. If thats the case all muslims should be treated like scum because of the actions of a minority of them. f**k EM

us cardiff fans are treated like shit across the country by police because of the actions of a minority of our supporters. If thats the case all muslims should be treated like scum because of the actions of a minority of them. f**k EM

Whats good enough for us is good enough for them

and theres a good few high profile cardiff lads who were high up in c18 not so long ago and a few have been caught seig heiling recently at cardiff games, including the player who was in europe with on that programme

if ur referring to Darren Wells, it's all bollix... he accused on of my mates being a C18 member and he has never ever been to one of their rallys or meetings. he is not even a political person, in fact has black mates... what he describes there being in a pub in london prior to a C18 meeting, my mates had a call from Wells, asking if they could meet in that pub, prior to our game at QPR the same night...

so much for the "truth" in that programme....

I'm not into that red poppy thing at all, for different reasons. but also condemn those knobs who were burning them, as they hurt the feelings of many people...

what makes me laugh is, that those people who now want to cleanse the world from all muslims (for burning poppys, not honoring british soldiers etc), have exactly those racist/fascist ideas their grandfathers fought against in WW2...

bet their grandfathers would be really proud of their EDL/BNP grandsons, raising their right arm and shout racial abuse...

exactly hof! crazy

Two arguments seem to be used by people elsewhere to defend these disloyal traitors (and to others, such as the minority of Celthick fans).

1. The Allies fought for freedom of speech in WWII
and
2. Recent British military actions have been immoral

Both of these defences are in my opinion completely naive. Free speech does not equate to going around trying to incite hatred in the country that has been good enough to allow you to reside here, basically spitting in the face of this countries traditions. Imagine the results if I was to go to Iran and try to do this?

Secondly, the rights and wrongs of war are irrelevant imo. It's the soldiers that we pay tribute to. Soldiers do not pick and choose what wars they participate in, they get on with the job and do their jobs with dignity and bravery. Any decent human being should be able to understand this, and offer full support. Especially someone who resides in Britain.

Two arguments seem to be used by people elsewhere to defend these disloyal traitors (and to others, such as the minority of Celthick fans).

1. The Allies fought for freedom of speech in WWII
and
2. Recent British military actions have been immoral

Both of these defences are in my opinion completely naive. Free speech does not equate to going around trying to incite hatred in the country that has been good enough to allow you to reside here, basically spitting in the face of this countries traditions. Imagine the results if I was to go to Iran and try to do this?

Secondly, the rights and wrongs of war are irrelevant imo. It's the soldiers that we pay tribute to. Soldiers do not pick and choose what wars they participate in, they get on with the job and do their jobs with dignity and bravery. Any decent human being should be able to understand this, and offer full support. Especially someone who resides in Britain.

Agree with most of that and I if you read through the thread I think it's pretty clear that most of us despise the militant islamists. They are horrible bigoted scum. BUT equally as this is is a free country there are those of us who are also able to hold the opinion that the EDL/BNP are also horrible bigoted scum.

Throughout history we have rejected extremists at the ballot box, long may it continue.