OFFICIAL - Prime Minister Cries as he Resigns :

All I can say is Good Fooking riddance

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

As I've said, Andy needs to go to the country within 12 months. If he does that, no need for a contest.

You say Carns and Streeting should contest it. I'm fairly certain Streeting has a big job in the Andy government lined up.

But don't forget anyone who wants to contest needs 81 Labour MPs to back them. Andy has close to 300 so there's not much room left.

You are looking at it through a party activist's eyes, and I as a neutral. In no time in history does a total "clean Skin" rock up to parliament and take the top job within 2 weeks especially without any sort of scutiny. It's a total stitch-up.

Its a dangerous precedent, and labour is going to get hammered time and time again. He can't make any unpopular decisions because he doesn't have any sort of mandate. We kinda knew who Richi, Boris, and May were politically before their anointment.
A few junior ministerial roles 16 years ago and a regional mayorship is not enough. Should have parachiuted Drakeford in........

Loves Tony Blair one minute, Corbyn the next, wants to be a Mayor one minute, Prime Minister the next. The greasy little snake oil salesman won't last long, he'll try and buy some more benefit votes and public sector votes with increases from additional taxes on proper taxpayers, then off making speeches and touring the World like the rest of them.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

As I've said, Andy needs to go to the country within 12 months. If he does that, no need for a contest.

You say Carns and Streeting should contest it. I'm fairly certain Streeting has a big job in the Andy government lined up.

But don't forget anyone who wants to contest needs 81 Labour MPs to back them. Andy has close to 300 so there's not much room left.

Reminds me of when Bulut left, and people thought it couldn't get any worse. Welcome, Riza Burnham. Finish the job and take us down even further, till we have no hope just have to watch things go from terrible to way worse very fast.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

As I've said, Andy needs to go to the country within 12 months. If he does that, no need for a contest.

You say Carns and Streeting should contest it. I'm fairly certain Streeting has a big job in the Andy government lined up.

But don't forget anyone who wants to contest needs 81 Labour MPs to back them. Andy has close to 300 so there's not much room left.

Reminds me of when Bulut left, and people thought it couldn't get any worse. Welcome, Riza Burnham. Finish the job and take us down even further, till we have no hope just have to watch things go from terrible to way worse very fast.

As I have said, Andy will take us away from 40 years of failure.

So it's more from Riza to BBM.

"Andy Burnham is commonly referred to as "Bodybags" due to his controversial tenure as the UK Secretary of State for Health between 2009 and 2010. Critics and political opponents coined the moniker because of his handling of the Stafford Hospital scandal. During his time as Health Secretary, systemic hospital failures led to hundreds of preventable patient deaths. Burnham was heavily criticized by families and opposition politicians for allegedly downplaying the crisis and initially resisting calls for a full, independent public inquiry into the high mortality rates. Consequently, detractors used the nickname to link him to the tragic loss of life."

Dehydrated patients drinking out of flower vases as I recall.

And that's just the start.

So we get 25000 votes (80% postal I read) deciding who is Prime Minister. Assuming that is, it happens, although a deal has probably been done between the relevant Communists/Trotskyists, deviants and creeps (some overlap) in Liebour and the Unions.

And then what? More of the same but worse I suspect.

And will Burnham, the self annointed King, ride in to save us. Mmmm......I'll let you make your own minds up.

Yes he will.

The country has been on the wrong path for 40 years. It's time to end 40 years of neo-liberalism.

He doesn't have permission from the country for such a drastic change. Same as Truss.

Starmer needs to stand his ground, let Burnham sell his wares, but his indecisiveness and need of advisors encapsulate these manic 2 years.

Starmer knows it's over. If he doesn't resign, there are close to 300 Labour MPs who back him - that's impossible to resist. As Boris Johnson said, when the herd moves it moves.

Andy Burnham has the mandate of the Makerfield constituency to do that.

As I've said repeatedly and have said this to other Andy backers, he does need to go to the country within 12 months though.

24927 have endorsed him out of a voting population of 50,000,000. 9,708,716 voted for labour led by Starmer. Burnham has no mandate from the other 20 million voters.

Streeting or Cairns need to show some courage and stand; there needs to be some sort of debate, even the dodgy Tories did that in public

I doubt you've ever not voted Labour, but for those who are more objective (not a criticism), a coronation for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot for the last GE is just plain wrong and will be hammered home by every party, journalist and commentator as the great Labour stitch-up.

As I've said, Andy needs to go to the country within 12 months. If he does that, no need for a contest.

You say Carns and Streeting should contest it. I'm fairly certain Streeting has a big job in the Andy government lined up.

But don't forget anyone who wants to contest needs 81 Labour MPs to back them. Andy has close to 300 so there's not much room left.

Reminds me of when Bulut left, and people thought it couldn't get any worse. Welcome, Riza Burnham. Finish the job and take us down even further, till we have no hope just have to watch things go from terrible to way worse very fast.

As I have said, Andy will take us away from 40 years of failure.

So it's more from Riza to BBM.

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I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

Too many people have closed minds and they are pathetic people.

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

We'll see if this forum is representative of the country in 12 months according to you, and I think you'll find it most definitely is......

Too many people have closed minds and they are pathetic people.

That's an incredible statement coming from someone who unreservedly defends the worst government in my life time.

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

I’m Labour as previously discussed in this thread but I think you’re getting a bit overly personally protective of Burnham.

I don’t know the full extent of your personal loyalty to him but it’s just not a good look to be advocating for him just to waltz into Number 10 unopposed a few days after having joining the government.

In fairness you are saying that there should be a GE within the year but we both know full well that’s not going to happen.

Politics, they say, is a rough trade.

Be prepared to have the lies and distortions exposed. Weaknesses highlighted.

It’s not just ‘Labour’ or ‘Tories’, it’s the mainstream’ Uniparty’ gang for that is what they are.

They hate us and have no loyalty to Britain and the British (Nats the same- Plaid is such a con). They serve other masters.

When youthful idealism fades and dispassionate thinking comes into play – if one can see through the mega tissue of lies- things become a little clearer.


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They say Andeh wears mascara.

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

We'll see if this forum is representative of the country in 12 months according to you, and I think you'll find it most definitely is......

Latest odds for the GE:

Labour - 6/4

Reform - 7/4

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

I’m Labour as previously discussed in this thread but I think you’re getting a bit overly personally protective of Burnham.

I don’t know the full extent of your personal loyalty to him but it’s just not a good look to be advocating for him just to waltz into Number 10 unopposed a few days after having joining the government.

In fairness you are saying that there should be a GE within the year but we both know full well that’s not going to happen.

I do have personal loyalty and friendship.

I also believe that loyalty should go far and I see limited loyalty of people to the PM because he doesn't have people like me behind him for good reason. He doesn't have a supporter base, unlike Andy.

Too many people have closed minds and they are pathetic people.

That's an incredible statement coming from someone who unreservedly defends the worst government in my life time.

I do not defend the government. They have failed in reversing 40 years of neo-liberalism.

Andy will do that.

Too many people have closed minds and they are pathetic people.

That's an incredible statement coming from someone who unreservedly defends the worst government in my life time.

I do not defend the government. They have failed in reversing 40 years of neo-liberalism.

Andy will do that.

Time will tell

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

We'll see if this forum is representative of the country in 12 months according to you, and I think you'll find it most definitely is......

Latest odds for the GE:

Labour - 6/4

Reform - 7/4

Reform are the bogeyman like Russia for the last 80 years, someone to blame and be scared of. They are never forming a government. They have done their job, remind the Tories to be Tories and not liberals. Not sure Farage has the juice to keep it going, and without him, I am not sure they have a replacement. He has been the ultimate protest vote.

I think the Tories won't want an election too soon, but they have hit the bottom and may start recovering. The Greens will split soon so Labour but probably the libs may gain some old progressives.

I wouldn't want to tie up my money but no winner and a short lived coalition would be my bet

Too many people have closed minds and they are pathetic people.

That's an incredible statement coming from someone who unreservedly defends the worst government in my life time.

I do not defend the government. They have failed in reversing 40 years of neo-liberalism.

Andy will do that.

It's a bit late for me, but I'd love to know what you consider neoliberalism. The world, even China are part of the neoliberal framework. International treaties, WTO etc, is the EU not the largest neoliberal entity?

Neo liberalism then globalisation, hasn't been kind to the working classes of developed countries; corporations grew more powerful,bigger than many small countries.

Not sure what Andy's plan for turning back time is, but we are a very small element of an ever-connected, intertwined world

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

Sorry Ned, you are a mile away with that comment that this forum is not representative of our country.

You live in a Labour bubble, where they all think they are superior to the common man and hold the high ground of morality.

Let me give you a hard truth, I'm surprised you didn't get it after the Senedd elections, your party is dying on it's knees. Mainly because people like you just DON'T GET IT.

You do not understand the legitimate frustrations of the majority of people who live and WORK HARD in the UK. You just don't get it.

All Labour offer is tax after tax after tax, which makes the UK the most taxed country in the Western World. Sorry mate, that is a fact. You cannot tax your way to growth, another well known fact.

Until you wake up and smell the coffee of the real world, not the Labour lovey bubble, you will never understand the other points of view that are put on this forum, which, I would argue, is actually the majority of our nation.

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

We'll see if this forum is representative of the country in 12 months according to you, and I think you'll find it most definitely is......

Latest odds for the GE:

Labour - 6/4

Reform - 7/4

Reform are the bogeyman like Russia for the last 80 years, someone to blame and be scared of. They are never forming a government. They have done their job, remind the Tories to be Tories and not liberals. Not sure Farage has the juice to keep it going, and without him, I am not sure they have a replacement. He has been the ultimate protest vote.

I think the Tories won't want an election too soon, but they have hit the bottom and may start recovering. The Greens will split soon so Labour but probably the libs may gain some old progressives.

I wouldn't want to tie up my money but no winner and a short lived coalition would be my bet

I do think you're right about the Tories.

They have a good leader in Badenoch and they will grow.

I am biased, but Labour under Andy can really show the country what neo-liberalism has done to damage the country.

As I have said, Britain has been on the wrong path for 40 years and I have never had much hope about a Labour leader as I have now (I mean the imminent leader, not the current one).

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

Sorry Ned, you are a mile away with that comment that this forum is not representative of our country.

You live in a Labour bubble, where they all think they are superior to the common man and hold the high ground of morality.

Let me give you a hard truth, I'm surprised you didn't get it after the Senedd elections, your party is dying on it's knees. Mainly because people like you just DON'T GET IT.

You do not understand the legitimate frustrations of the majority of people who live and WORK HARD in the UK. You just don't get it.

All Labour offer is tax after tax after tax, which makes the UK the most taxed country in the Western World. Sorry mate, that is a fact. You cannot tax your way to growth, another well known fact.

Until you wake up and smell the coffee of the real world, not the Labour lovey bubble, you will never understand the other points of view that are put on this forum, which, I would argue, is actually the majority of our nation.

I would point to the polls. Reform are just seven points ahead of us.

I am not living in another world. The most likely outcome from the next election is a Labour minority.

I am assuming you take your politics from Musk's platforms.

Change is coming. Not from Farage, but from Andy.

Britain has been going in the wrong direction for 40 years and now we are fighting back, a Labour leader who is actually Labour.

And we're going to win.

A reminder: Makerfield was in Reform's top 14 targets.

They didn't vote for Reform, they voted for Andy Burnham.

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

Sorry Ned, you are a mile away with that comment that this forum is not representative of our country.

You live in a Labour bubble, where they all think they are superior to the common man and hold the high ground of morality.

Let me give you a hard truth, I'm surprised you didn't get it after the Senedd elections, your party is dying on it's knees. Mainly because people like you just DON'T GET IT.

You do not understand the legitimate frustrations of the majority of people who live and WORK HARD in the UK. You just don't get it.

All Labour offer is tax after tax after tax, which makes the UK the most taxed country in the Western World. Sorry mate, that is a fact. You cannot tax your way to growth, another well known fact.

Until you wake up and smell the coffee of the real world, not the Labour lovey bubble, you will never understand the other points of view that are put on this forum, which, I would argue, is actually the majority of our nation.

I would point to the polls. Reform are just seven points ahead of us.

I am not living in another world. The most likely outcome from the next election is a Labour minority.

I am assuming you take your politics from Musk's platforms.

Change is coming. Not from Farage, but from Andy.

Britain has been going in the wrong direction for 40 years and now we are fighting back, a Labour leader who is actually Labour.

And we're going to win.

So what radical changes will Burnham make, what will he do about the spiraling benefits bill? what will he do to stop the Islamic dinghy jockeys? What will he do about our dysfunctional armed services, what will he do about men pretending to be women using real women’s facilities? What will he do to improve the economy? Does he want to ignore the biggest democratic mandate, the UK has ever seen and take us back into the failing EU.
He’s just another career politician, never done a days real work in his life, an empty suit who’ll put working class people last.

Too many people have closed minds and they are pathetic people.

That's an incredible statement coming from someone who unreservedly defends the worst government in my life time.

I do not defend the government. They have failed in reversing 40 years of neo-liberalism.

Andy will do that.

Facets of Neoliberalism are said to be things like low taxation, minimal government regulation and reductions in government spending. We have the highest level of taxation since WW11, in reality increased government regulation either via the EU or our own various governments, and successive government spending that is completely out of control. I’ll be honest mate I think the neoliberalism shout is a poor one.
Regardless of anyone’s political creed on here, successive governments have not got spending under control and have looked to all earners to pay for that lack of control. Be it basic wage or high earners and the left wing call to “make the higher earners pay their share” falls down when the bare facts show the majority of tax is paid from that group.
For me, and I’m a dyed in the wool centre right individual. The real tax loss is the multinationals transferring profits out of the UK to tax havens is the thing that kills us on tax collection. If we get a government that has the balls to take them on, pull in what should be paid here, control the wasteful spending they would get my vote. For me, everything else is just sound bites for the evening news bulletins and pandering to various groups.
Appreciate you’re getting a bit of stick for standing up for your mate and hope you don’t leave the forum over it. Politics aren’t worth it.

Different Clown, Same Circus...

And it will be presented to the world under an illusion that we choose him.

I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

Sorry Ned, you are a mile away with that comment that this forum is not representative of our country.

You live in a Labour bubble, where they all think they are superior to the common man and hold the high ground of morality.

Let me give you a hard truth, I'm surprised you didn't get it after the Senedd elections, your party is dying on it's knees. Mainly because people like you just DON'T GET IT.

You do not understand the legitimate frustrations of the majority of people who live and WORK HARD in the UK. You just don't get it.

All Labour offer is tax after tax after tax, which makes the UK the most taxed country in the Western World. Sorry mate, that is a fact. You cannot tax your way to growth, another well known fact.

Until you wake up and smell the coffee of the real world, not the Labour lovey bubble, you will never understand the other points of view that are put on this forum, which, I would argue, is actually the majority of our nation.

I would point to the polls. Reform are just seven points ahead of us.

I am not living in another world. The most likely outcome from the next election is a Labour minority.

I am assuming you take your politics from Musk's platforms.

Change is coming. Not from Farage, but from Andy.

Britain has been going in the wrong direction for 40 years and now we are fighting back, a Labour leader who is actually Labour.

And we're going to win.

Your one line there of “musks platforms” lets you down. Why resort to trying to insult someone if you are confident of your argument?
Everyone is entitled to different views. People can easily say you get your politics from the Canary, Tribune, Left Foot Forward. Every source has its weaknesses.
And tongue in cheek, Musk is the most successful African American on earth. See what I mean.

MONDAY 22ND JUNE - KEIR STARMER RESIGNS AS PRIME MINISTER

He will depart by September.

Crazy thing is Starmer made better communication in that resignation speech than he has in two years

No love lost, out of touch with the people of this country along with his party.

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I have seen enough on this thread to know this forum is an anti-Labour forum.

So I will question whether I should still be a moderator.

The squealing from you lot is embarrassing.

I am just glad that this forum is not representative of the country.

Anti-failure common sense first forum.