OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

Of the student Henry Nowak in Southampton. Why was he handcuffed?

Because his attacker told the police he racially abused him. The police dragged Henry from Infront of the car and sat him up. Poor Henry said he'd been stabbed and the police officer said "I don't think so" and preceded to handcuff Henry as he said "I can't breathe" twice. As the police officer was reading Henry is rights, he lost consciousness and died.

ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING

Two-tier policing at it's worst.

Stop blowing so hard

Two Tier policing at its worst .....is the first political comment on this thread .....and it comes from you

I was pissed off with that cttt farage mouthing off about the situation when the family themselves asked for none of it

When I stated that fact you wrongly said farage commented about the case before the family spoke

I sort of got a yeah I was wrong but it hasnt lasted long

If pointing out farage is a slimey tw*t and making political gain out of a murder after being asked not to ......is laughably the same then bollocks I will plead guilty

There is no history of sikh people going round killiing white boys in the same way police in america have a long history of abusing , beating and killing black men

Its ridiculous to draw a similarity , this young lad was murdered by a scumball who is now doing 21 years and hopefully gets more after a review

George Floyd was also a scumball , his death was televised and he was another black man ....a right horrible git ....killed by the american police ....thats why it snowballed

His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.

You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.

Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 03cfbc2b35

Absolutely

Farage was very much aware of the families pleas for everyone to avoid political capital making ......but hes gone ahead and done it

You said farage made his comments before the family spoke

That was incorrect , the family made their comments for calm and peace yesterday , farage spoke out today

Correct.

I think it's sad that people are using this as a political football, against the wishes of the poor lad's father.

Truth is that most who are reacting like that don't give a shit about this person, they just want an excuse to make a point.

Good job that Henry Nowak was white, I doubt so many would be so up in arms if he was another ethnicity.

Are you serious If poor Henry was any other colour than white, the whole world would have been on it's knee for him and planning statues and shrines for him.

Nice comment about using it for political reasons, and then you stock the fire with your political views

Two tier policing is a favourite line of tommy robinson and farage

Thats exactly the line you used in your first comment

If thats not political then I dont know how you can carry on

Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse.

Totally agree mate. His attitude to those that have a different opinion to his is atrocious, personal insults and abuse but he gets away with it.

I get my facts right , you were calling me out on farage and you were wrong

So I take what you say with a bag of salt

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

Let's not forget that it was the police who released the video, it wasn't leaked elsewhere.

And the IOPC are investigating so all this bollocks about it being two tier policing ordered by the government is exactly that, bollocks.

You also have a police officer who had nothing to do with the case having to relocate because he got abuse after Farage's bumboys put two and two together and as usual ended up with 5000.

But they never let the facts get in the way.

It is , two tier policing absolute bollocks

It was very poor policing

As city fans over the years you meet good coppers and some absolute tossers

Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse.

Totally agree mate. His attitude to those that have a different opinion to his is atrocious, personal insults and abuse but he gets away with it.

I get my facts right , you were calling me out on farage and you were wrong

So I take what you say with a bag of salt

Sludge
Let it rest you brought in farage which was not needed you have been told by sven to basically give it a rest, and I also asked everyone to calm down.

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse.

Totally agree mate. His attitude to those that have a different opinion to his is atrocious, personal insults and abuse but he gets away with it.

I get my facts right , you were calling me out on farage and you were wrong

So I take what you say with a bag of salt

Sludge
Let it rest you brought in farage which was not needed you have been told by sven to basically give it a rest, and I also asked everyone to calm down.

I am perfectly calm monty

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

His father has said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension" so I'm going to follow those wishes.

I fully understand his father's wishes, but this case is 10 times worse than the George Floyd incident and the whole world took a knee for him and made him out to be a saint, even making statues and shrines for him. The guy was a drug crazed criminal who had been previously arrested 7 times and one occasion he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Henry Nowak's murder and the zero publicity it had from the government and main stream media is shocking to say the least.

You cant have the government , police , media and the prime minister making comments about a court case in this country

It was only concluded yesterday

Now people can comment although whilst the family has asked for dignity Nigel The Turd Farage has already made an arse of that request

It should have been brought up in parliament after the incident on 3rd December.

Farage made his comments before Henry's father spoke out.

Shame on you for using Henry Nowak's death for your political agenda.

Thats exactly what you are doing you plank

Farage is vermin

Your the one who brought Farage's name into this you PLANK. I was taking about the lack of response from our government and the two-tier policing in this country.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 03cfbc2b35

Absolutely

Farage was very much aware of the families pleas for everyone to avoid political capital making ......but hes gone ahead and done it

You said farage made his comments before the family spoke

That was incorrect , the family made their comments for calm and peace yesterday , farage spoke out today

Correct.

I think it's sad that people are using this as a political football, against the wishes of the poor lad's father.

Truth is that most who are reacting like that don't give a shit about this person, they just want an excuse to make a point.

Good job that Henry Nowak was white, I doubt so many would be so up in arms if he was another ethnicity.

Are you serious If poor Henry was any other colour than white, the whole world would have been on it's knee for him and planning statues and shrines for him.

Nice comment about using it for political reasons, and then you stock the fire with your political views

Two tier policing is a favourite line of tommy robinson and farage

Thats exactly the line you used in your first comment

If thats not political then I dont know how you can carry on

Two-tier policing is exactly what it is and you and everyone else who has an ounce of sense knows this but some will not agree due to their political views.

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

No he died because some mad b*stard decided he wanted to kill an innocent bystander, not because the police were crap at their job, even though they were.

Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse.

Totally agree mate. His attitude to those that have a different opinion to his is atrocious, personal insults and abuse but he gets away with it.

I get my facts right , you were calling me out on farage and you were wrong

So I take what you say with a bag of salt

Yes I got my timings wrong with the statements but I stand by my comment that you brought Farage's name into this for your own political agenda.

God I just watched the updated BBC video of it. Its absolutely disgusting. 1 guy saying is mouth is full of blood, of course he's bleeding out! Then they drag him to put handcuffs on behind him, be minded he's been stabbed in chest and through lungs, so pain this would have caused! Words fail me. This country is in bits!

The police fooked up badly,they have this diversity and racist agenda drilled into them instead of common sense,it's all gone to far , there is two tier policing going on , people have been to scared to speak their mind in case you get called racist, back to common sense is what we need

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

No he died because some mad b*stard decided he wanted to kill an innocent bystander, not because the police were crap at their job, even though they were.

As I pointed out the wound was superficial on outside and nothing could have been done to save him! Police just guilty of bad policing and should have shown more concern and checked him over... wouldn't change outcome but would have done their jobs but more concerned about the allegation of racism .... from what I gather wouldn't be action against yhem but given the interference from politicians there may well be a witch hunt now?

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

No he died because some mad b*stard decided he wanted to kill an innocent bystander, not because the police were crap at their job, even though they were.

As I pointed out the wound was superficial on outside and nothing could have been done to save him! Police just guilty of bad policing and should have shown more concern and checked him over... wouldn't change outcome but would have done their jobs but more concerned about the allegation of racism .... from what I gather wouldn't be action against yhem but given the interference from politicians there may well be a witch hunt now?

This is going to take long time to sort out, as woke ideology is embedded in all instuations. I really don't know why the left especially are constantly on about racisum, all through my life I work with all races but never see them in terms of colour we all get on. It's only when you turn on tv or radio do you here about race, colours etc, and I hate it. Leave us alone bbc sky etc and we'll all get on fine. If I don't like someone it wont be down to colour or race but attitude usually!

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

No he died because some mad b*stard decided he wanted to kill an innocent bystander, not because the police were crap at their job, even though they were.

As I pointed out the wound was superficial on outside and nothing could have been done to save him! Police just guilty of bad policing and should have shown more concern and checked him over... wouldn't change outcome but would have done their jobs but more concerned about the allegation of racism .... from what I gather wouldn't be action against yhem but given the interference from politicians there may well be a witch hunt now?

This is going to take long time to sort out, as woke ideology is embedded in all instuations. I really don't know why the left especially are constantly on about racisum, all through my life I work with all races but never see them in terms of colour we all get on. It's only when you turn on tv or radio do you here about race, colours etc, and I hate it. Leave us alone bbc sky etc and we'll all get on fine. If I don't like someone it wont be down to colour or race but attitude usually!

Correct

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

No he died because some mad b*stard decided he wanted to kill an innocent bystander, not because the police were crap at their job, even though they were.

As I pointed out the wound was superficial on outside and nothing could have been done to save him! Police just guilty of bad policing and should have shown more concern and checked him over... wouldn't change outcome but would have done their jobs but more concerned about the allegation of racism .... from what I gather wouldn't be action against yhem but given the interference from politicians there may well be a witch hunt now?

This is going to take long time to sort out, as woke ideology is embedded in all instuations. I really don't know why the left especially are constantly on about racisum, all through my life I work with all races but never see them in terms of colour we all get on. It's only when you turn on tv or radio do you here about race, colours etc, and I hate it. Leave us alone bbc sky etc and we'll all get on fine. If I don't like someone it wont be down to colour or race but attitude usually!

Will take time hopefully not the years the complain dept take normally? Think people need to read up on the trial the judge said was difficult for police to not believe the murderer ... and pathologist said it was difficult to recognise the stab wound! So in that respect police had difficult job in some respects... but still doesn't absolve them from being more pro -active in the care of him.... one officer as resigned and the witch hunt as started crime commissioner (Conservative) is getting involved calling for control room to be investigated and asking what 1st aid training they have? Also how to recognise internal bleeding symptoms!! Want hhem to be paramedics by found of it? Ffs if they saw he'd been stabbed they would called ambulance immediately that is their main failure but not reason he died

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

Well I think we have an example here of someone spending way too much time " researching " stuff on the internet

Its a load of guff

There is no history of sikh men going round stabbing white boys

This was a shameful crime carried out by a scumball , its not a pattern

He has been sent down for 20 years and hopefully with the additional charges hes now facing he will get a lot more

The police screwed up because thats what happens sometimes

There absolutely should be a public enquiry where the facts can be heard rather than farage , tommy robinson and mob rule

Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse.

Totally agree mate. His attitude to those that have a different opinion to his is atrocious, personal insults and abuse but he gets away with it.

I get my facts right , you were calling me out on farage and you were wrong

So I take what you say with a bag of salt

Yes I got my timings wrong with the statements but I stand by my comment that you brought Farage's name into this for your own political agenda.

Bullshit

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

No he died because some mad b*stard decided he wanted to kill an innocent bystander, not because the police were crap at their job, even though they were.

As I pointed out the wound was superficial on outside and nothing could have been done to save him! Police just guilty of bad policing and should have shown more concern and checked him over... wouldn't change outcome but would have done their jobs but more concerned about the allegation of racism .... from what I gather wouldn't be action against yhem but given the interference from politicians there may well be a witch hunt now?

This is going to take long time to sort out, as woke ideology is embedded in all instuations. I really don't know why the left especially are constantly on about racisum, all through my life I work with all races but never see them in terms of colour we all get on. It's only when you turn on tv or radio do you here about race, colours etc, and I hate it. Leave us alone bbc sky etc and we'll all get on fine. If I don't like someone it wont be down to colour or race but attitude usually!

Will take time hopefully not the years the complain dept take normally? Think people need to read up on the trial the judge said was difficult for police to not believe the murderer ... and pathologist said it was difficult to recognise the stab wound! So in that respect police had difficult job in some respects... but still doesn't absolve them from being more pro -active in the care of him.... one officer as resigned and the witch hunt as started crime commissioner (Conservative) is getting involved calling for control room to be investigated and asking what 1st aid training they have? Also how to recognise internal bleeding symptoms!! Want hhem to be paramedics by found of it? Ffs if they saw he'd been stabbed they would called ambulance immediately that is their main failure but not reason he died

Incompetent and shabby policing

Heads will roll and they should

Tommy Robinson and Lawrence Fox down there tonight .......clearly not interested in the calls for calm from the family

Any rioting and tommy will hide somewhere

The police fooked up badly,they have this diversity and racist agenda drilled into them instead of common sense,it's all gone to far , there is two tier policing going on , people have been to scared to speak their mind in case you get called racist, back to common sense is what we need

Spot on mate

God I just watched the updated BBC video of it. Its absolutely disgusting. 1 guy saying is mouth is full of blood, of course he's bleeding out! Then they drag him to put handcuffs on behind him, be minded he's been stabbed in chest and through lungs, so pain this would have caused! Words fail me. This country is in bits!

It's shocking to say the least. I got quite shocked when I watched it and I definitely won't watch it again.

I think the video should now be taken off line.

Unfortunately police are battered for being racist in such incidents he was accused of racial Ttack police moved to defend the narrative.... but why the fck didn't the police check him offer to make sure if stabbed or not! Apparently the wound looked minor as little blood simply because he haemorrhaged internally..... nothing anyone could do to save him that's why father solely blamed the murderer.... but he is absolutely correct in his condemnation of police attitude totally lacking humanity...... as for politicians they should stay out of it as its not a political football to score points over.... starmer is an opportunist all mouth but no action ...... others just getting on bandwagon..

Allan,
on the video footage you can here someone saying he's injured with blood full his mouth but that was ignored and had his rights read to him.

It was terrible but this guy didnt die because the coppers treated him differently because he was white ......he died because these coppers were crap at their job and didnt take care of a vulnerable young man

If they all get done for corporate manslaughter that would be some sort of justice

No he died because some mad b*stard decided he wanted to kill an innocent bystander, not because the police were crap at their job, even though they were.

As I pointed out the wound was superficial on outside and nothing could have been done to save him! Police just guilty of bad policing and should have shown more concern and checked him over... wouldn't change outcome but would have done their jobs but more concerned about the allegation of racism .... from what I gather wouldn't be action against yhem but given the interference from politicians there may well be a witch hunt now?

This is going to take long time to sort out, as woke ideology is embedded in all instuations. I really don't know why the left especially are constantly on about racisum, all through my life I work with all races but never see them in terms of colour we all get on. It's only when you turn on tv or radio do you here about race, colours etc, and I hate it. Leave us alone bbc sky etc and we'll all get on fine. If I don't like someone it wont be down to colour or race but attitude usually!

Correct

I'll second that....

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Attention Moderators: I thought this was a forum for free speech and no personal abuse. Please take a look at this Sludge nutter. No sensible argument, just abuse after abuse after abuse. I guess he has a severe case of FDS, but that is not an excuse.

Totally agree mate. His attitude to those that have a different opinion to his is atrocious, personal insults and abuse but he gets away with it.

I get my facts right , you were calling me out on farage and you were wrong

So I take what you say with a bag of salt

Yes I got my timings wrong with the statements but I stand by my comment that you brought Farage's name into this for your own political agenda.

Bullshit

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Nonsense

The police were useless , they were clearly seen searching for stab wounds but couldnt find any ......not easy to see entry wounds but they should have found them

It was nothing to do with the poor guys race , it was crap , useless coppers

If there was some kind of cover up the police wouldnt have released the terrible video of the incident

If you have 100 coppers then if 10 of them are crap and useless this is going to happen

Black and Asian people are more likely to be arrested and charged with offences than us whiteys and are more likely to go to prison for similar offences and also get longer in prison

So yes ....there certainly is two tier policing and justice in this country .....and its not white people who are always on the wrong side of it

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2061894235603820615

Cup of cold sick Sludge.

Your worthless witterings are invariably so pathetic as not to even warrant thinking about a response. However, on this occasion as you’ve diminished the terrible death of a young man which, in itself, let alone the circumstances and deeper background should deeply concern us all I will venture some comments.

If you had given this matter some though you might have acknowledged that Henry Nowak was just the latest in a line of Britons murdered under similar circumstances with no justification whatsoever. Observable, provable fact. Pure coincidence?

No connections with drugs, turf wars, gangs, inter-ethnic politics or any of those things. Just being there.

It is also a fact that Hampshire Police through two of their women high-ups recently instituted anti-Racist programmes throughout the Force which it is difficult to believe did not impact upon the disgraceful behaviour of the police at the scene.

Police are allegedly required to ‘believe’ any accusation of ‘racism’ with no evidence whatsoever. If true is that reasonable?

In this case they had been told in the 999 call that someone had been stabbed and at the scene, Henry was bleeding from several wounds.

I believe it is also a reported fact that the Police confiscated the phones of Henry and his father to search for ‘racist’ comments.

Strangely, Mr Novak was not it appears, notified of Henrys’ death until 24 hrs after the event. Strange that. Wonder why?

There are incredible double standards in force as the State and its lackeys throughout politics, the media and of course the Police double, down on the imposition and enforcement of policies which we are not allowed to criticise.

And of course, there are the useful idiots who go along with it all. Perhaps because they want to feel good and are can’t think outside the approved herd mentality. the younger ones have a sort of excuse in that they've been conditioned in school and through media. People like you, not so much. No excuse at all.

None are so blind that will not see.

Two-tier Kier and the two-tier justice system is a description that is denied but thoughtful observers can work out for themselves whether this is a reality. Don’t forget, in ‘1984’ Orwell wrote of the State’s first and most important command, which was ‘to ignore the evidence of your own eyes.’

Are we simply to accept this state of affairs continuing and inevitably worsening?

From elsewhere:

‘Henry Nowak’s murder, the complicity of the murderer’s family and the refusal of police officers was political. Without the anti-white double standards that govern our current moral order, Henry would still be alive. But as ever, the problem is neither thy problem itself nor those importing the problem The problem is that too many of us are now noticing and trying to address the problem. We refuse any longer to tolerate a situation in which savage attacks on whites are at best a ‘tragedy’ while the merest discomfort -let alone the murder of (one of) any other group is treated as a moral emergency.’

Not talking about this problem doesn't make it go away. It simply defers the time of reckoning which must come.

To end, I’ll bet neither Henry’s mother or father are given a seat in the House of Lords.

This is an excellent, well written post.

Its completely false

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2061894235603820615

Sludge has nailed it perfectly.
No amount of counter arguing is going to succeed in this matter. The far right always hijack tragic situations like this and use it for their own filthy agendas.