OT: YOUR SENNEDD ELECTION VOTE?

Guys we can debate the rights and wrongs of every party until we are blue in the face but the bottom line because of the new PR system operating in Wales Senedd elections in May, we will almost certainly have a coalition government in Wales of Paid and Labour for the next 5 years!!

Sad......but true. The people have a vote, I just hope they get what they wish for.

I very much hope your wrong it's time for a change. I suspect your correct though and we'll basically have the same clowns we have now with Plaid on top instead of labour

Guys we can debate the rights and wrongs of every party until we are blue in the face but the bottom line because of the new PR system operating in Wales Senedd elections in May, we will almost certainly have a coalition government in Wales of Paid and Labour for the next 5 years!!

Sad......but true. The people have a vote, I just hope they get what they wish for.

I very much hope your wrong it's time for a change. I suspect your correct though and we'll basically have the same clowns we have now with Plaid on top instead of labour

You are right, the system was put in place by Labour to favour the biggest party. It’s obviously backfired as they no longer are the biggest party. Plaid have said they will change the system if elected.

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I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Think I’ll be voting Plaid, but as others have said it’s the best of a bad bunch.

Labour are non existent and seem to not do anything, where my vote used to lie.

Reform plan to cause disruption to my family life and many friends and family’s life, and the general fact they’re pushing the same rubbish the brexit campaign boasted tells me 99% of it is lies and the other 1% won’t happen

Just got a leaflet from Plaid. Promising £30k of children care, for all Welsh kids aged 9 months to 4 years. So where’s the 4 billion per annum coming from?
What disruption will Reform cause your family life?

Watched a video interview of Farage stating they would find a way to undo the settled status for eu citizens. My wife and step daughter fall into that category.

I have no issue with limiting immigration, the immigration that’s the problem is the illegal ones. I work in a factory that’s 90% foreign and if a small portion were forced to leave they’d be difficult to replace.

My wife has been in the uk for 20 years, and worked from the day she arrived. My ex was born and bred in the uk, and not worked a single day in her life. There is the problem, which a small minority of people are foreign, but the largest part of the benefits claimed are British citizens. 83-85% British nationals.

My family will likely be fine, but we will need to go yet more needlessly loopholes and probably have a fee on it if it ever became a thing. For that alone, I’d not vote reform but millions will for all the wrong reasons

Have you got a link to this. I don’t believe Reform are looking to throw out settled EU citizens.

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Some very good points made in this post. Unfortunately,many ignore facts that don’t fit their perception of the world.
Many of the contributors to this post supporting Reform are the same misguided souls who supported Israel in their genocide in Gaza. (As did Reform politicians). They swallow Trumps / Farage / Israels propoganda.
Clearly we are all entitled to our oolitical views, but for me, its just so sad to see so many City fans saying they will vote reform. As a proud Welshman born and bred in Cardiff I would hate to see our people vote Reform, although I appreciate that these days there are a huge number of people from other parts of the UK living in Wales (no need for boats!!) and many of them have different opinions.

Misguided souls bwhahahaha. If only everyone was as politically savvy as yourself.
Funny how the only conflict ever mentioned is Gaza. Meanwhile 100,000 Nigerian Christians have been slaughtered, by Islamists but that real genocide doesn’t even rate a mention.

Labour .. tempted by Plaidd but one or two things on manifesto I don’t like.
Reform should not be anywhere near being Elected in Wales..

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Nothing wrong with British Natiolism for anyone who considers themselves British.
I consider myself Welsh not British

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Nothing wrong with British Natiolism for anyone who considers themselves British.
I consider myself Welsh not British

Fair play
I’m Scottish by birth, British by nationality.
I’m not against an independent Wales in theory, small agile economy, small government, low taxes including corporation tax. However in practice we’d get an enlarged public sector, high taxes, benefits culture and the Welsh language forced down everybody’s throat.

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Nothing wrong with British Natiolism for anyone who considers themselves British.
I consider myself Welsh not British

And the fastest way to erode Welshness? Plaid's mass immigration

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Nothing wrong with British Natiolism for anyone who considers themselves British.
I consider myself Welsh not British

I'm Welsh on both sides of my family but i don't speak Welsh.
What if a somali spoke Welsh and you had to evict one i
of us. Who would you choose?
Who is more Welsh?

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I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Nothing wrong with British Natiolism for anyone who considers themselves British.
I consider myself Welsh not British

And the fastest way to erode Welshness? Plaid's mass immigration

How many times must people be told it’s Westminster that decides immigration policy. Nothing to do with Senedd.

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Nothing wrong with British Natiolism for anyone who considers themselves British.
I consider myself Welsh not British

And the fastest way to erode Welshness? Plaid's mass immigration

How many times must people be told it’s Westminster that decides immigration policy. Nothing to do with Senedd.

Show me where Plaid have been hard on mass immigration

I Am Cardiff born and Welsh through and through , yet my Welsh speaking is very limited - 1970's Cardiff Llanrumney education, where Welsh was a piss take skiving lesson and very few had interest, including the teachers.

Overall a good education and then the university of life, I am now 65 years young.

I lived in Gwynedd north west Wales for a time and even though I mixed into community and played Rugby for local team and bought a house there, myself and others who were not welsh speakers were shunned by most locals and once told "I was not a real Welshman, because I didn't speak Welsh" . to which I retorted that I was born and lived most of my life in the Capital of Wales, which makes me MORE qualified as a Welshman than you ! I WAS DRIVEN OUT and how glad I was to move to Powys - Much more civilized

So, My opinion, having experienced Nationalism first hand, is that I would never ever vote Plaid Cymru and their socialist hidden agendas. (Wolves in sheep's clothing )

Unfortunately, my new massive senedd constituency (Gwynedd Maldwyn) Plaid Cymru will most likely win 5 out of 6 seats here

I am hoping you lot down South and up North will vote in enough Reform candidates into a Senedd majority to beat a Labour/Plaid coalition.

As "Jock" says, Welsh by Birth and British By Nationality ! - Proud to be Welsh and British.

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

They'll have all the UK's interest at heart Wales included.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930xypxpqpo

That’s where he’s quoted saying some of it. I saw a video of it somewhere. Like I said, working migrants aren’t the problem, and what god given right should someone have over any other person for welfare provisions other than those who do not contribute.

The entire system is corrupt, if you work you pay full price, if you don’t you get cheaper gas/electric, discount on gym memberships, cheaper or free glasses and dental care, the list goes on.

My family wouldn’t be deported, but there will be processes needing to be followed

Labour without question for me.

Reform would be a disaster - too extreme and all talk

Green would be a disaster - too extreme and all talk

Labour - the solid middle ground

Well if it aint broken....

Oh wait

That said they are all a shower of shite. I voted for the only man that knocked my door here in London. He was conservative but could just as easily have been a Lib Dem. All sort of vanilla and inoffensive.

At least he shook my hand. If I had a baby to hand I reckon he would have kissed it as well, fairplay, a decent enough guy and that literally was what my vote came down to.

Only politician that can rely on my vote each and every time is Captain Binface. Other than that they're all just in it for themselves .

Plaid pulling out all the stops

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I Am Cardiff born and Welsh through and through , yet my Welsh speaking is very limited - 1970's Cardiff Llanrumney education, where Welsh was a piss take skiving lesson and very few had interest, including the teachers.

Overall a good education and then the university of life, I am now 65 years young.

I lived in Gwynedd north west Wales for a time and even though I mixed into community and played Rugby for local team and bought a house there, myself and others who were not welsh speakers were shunned by most locals and once told "I was not a real Welshman, because I didn't speak Welsh" . to which I retorted that I was born and lived most of my life in the Capital of Wales, which makes me MORE qualified as a Welshman than you ! I WAS DRIVEN OUT and how glad I was to move to Powys - Much more civilized

So, My opinion, having experienced Nationalism first hand, is that I would never ever vote Plaid Cymru and their socialist hidden agendas. (Wolves in sheep's clothing )

Unfortunately, my new massive senedd constituency (Gwynedd Maldwyn) Plaid Cymru will most likely win 5 out of 6 seats here

I am hoping you lot down South and up North will vote in enough Reform candidates into a Senedd majority to beat a Labour/Plaid coalition.

As "Jock" says, Welsh by Birth and British By Nationality ! - Proud to be Welsh and British.

I have given my one comment on this thread). Basically, that is to ask City fans to think carefully before voting Reform. They are a party that make unfounded claims and simple answers to problems that dont have simple answers! Theircental message is based on false claims based on immigration. We are all against illegal immigration and it needs tackling BUT, the numbers in Wales are incredibly small. Reform is a rich posh boys party who will make the rich richer and everyone else poorer.

Only 5% of people in Wales were born anywhere outside the UK. Wheras over 9% answered the last census in Wales to say they are English (as opposed to British), and another 21% were born in England. I have nothing against England Ireland and Scotland ( even Jock!). However I see mysef as Welsh first and British second.I am proud to be Welsh

To Powys Blue I say by all means speak as you find, but my experience is very different to yours. Funnily enough,
I was also from Llanrumney and went to school there.(Ball Road) and then college in England. In my 30s moved to North Wales.i found the people in North Wales to be fine, just like in Cardiff. Over the years I have learned Welsh because I was amazed that people in the area speak through the medium of Welsh as their first language! I think thats great.In Ball Road only a couple of teachers did! If I went to live in France Id have learned French.
So speak as you find I guess. But, most importantly. I think we are all born equal whatever your nationality, colour, religion etc. i.e. don’t dislike all Jews or all Muslims or all Blacks or all Reform voters or all Plaid supporters etc etc
We should only judge people by what they do - judge individuals by their actions!
We need less division in society not more!

I see no answer to why the valleys is one of most impoverished places in the UK under 27 years of labour and plaid , labour Wales has given home to loads of migrants that have broken into the UK ,not from Ukraine and prioritized housing for them

Well you can start with the Torries who closed the mines and almost all heavy industries but had no plan to replace them leaving communities to slowly get poorer and poorer.

In recent times it's got to be Brexit that has had an adverse effect on all communities but especially communities like the valleys that received large amounts of money from Europe. Remeber Farage's part in that disaster!

You can also add Labour who certainly took the Valleys votes for granted but did very little in return.

There is only one Welsh party in the election and I believe they would certainly try their best for the valleys and that'd Plaid

Sadly PC and Lab are two cheeks of the same arse, PC have backed up Labour and kept them in power for years and look at the state of Wales now.

We all know Labour are going to get politically battered, rightly so. For 27 years they have been in power, not always by themselves, but also propped up by Plaid Cymru. And where are we?......I'll let you decide!

So in my view, a vote for either Labour or Plaid is asking to keep the status quo of 27 years of failure.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

It's time for something new and I believe that is Reform UK.

And you really believe that an English nationalist party (Reform) would have Wales’ interest at heart?

So blood and soil Welsh Nationalism good
British Nationalism bad?

Nothing wrong with British Natiolism for anyone who considers themselves British.
I consider myself Welsh not British

And the fastest way to erode Welshness? Plaid's mass immigration

How many times must people be told it’s Westminster that decides immigration policy. Nothing to do with Senedd.

Show me where Plaid have been hard on mass immigration

It doesn’t matter if Plaid is hard on mass immigration or not. Until they get their wish of an independent Wales, immigration is not their remit.

As has been repeatedly stated above.

i will never vote plaid. I am neither pro welsh independence nor am I a socialist. They offer me nothing. It is disingenuous to say dont vote X because they make false promises. That is basically what our entire electoral system is based on and its usually us paying for other peoples promises in the form of ever higher taxation. We can only vote on what people say. So I will vote for those that SAY they will do what agree with rather than those that SAY they will do what I disagree with. For me, Reform and The conservatives are more or less the same but Reform have popularity whereas the conservatives have been proven to be useless in Wales and have even less popularity.

27 years. We have had 27 years of socialist polices. Labour have dominated with active support from Plaid and the Lib Dem (not lib dems as that implies there was more than 1!). We grind to a halt here with micromanagement and frustrating nannying. Be it bins and their collections constantly changing or many other annoyances I have.
I would be grateful to have a governing party that stop meddling in every aspect of my life and leave me alone. Labour and Plaid are Not those parties. It is time IMHO for someone else to have a chance.

Plaid to keep out reform and until Labour get their act together

I am not a welsh nationalist and Plaid know deep down they will never win an independence vote

As for immigration the nation of sanctuary is a stupid term which those who thought it up should be shot for as its played into the hands of the far right

But its got nothing to do with encouraging everyone over on a boat .....or opening up the borders , its a uk government scheme funded for wales , scotland , northern ireland .....to help mostly ukranian immigrants settle ......immigration policy overall is decieded by uk parliament

And ...if immigration ....even though tiny into wales ...is a problem ....then make sure you understand its 14 years of the conservatives ...now called reform ......who were in power bringing record levels of immigrants here

The levels are now about 1 third of what they were

Sadly behind a lot of the so called concern about immigration is full blooded racism and its embarrassing that Wales has become so bad in this respect

With the Welsh Senedd election coming soon, it’s all looking tight at the top and increasingly likely that Welsh Labour will be ousted from power for the first time

There appears to good support for Plaid Cymru and Reform, although the former are joining in with Welsh Labour in a concerted effort to discredit Reform, which (to me) shows they are genuinely worried about their respective positions

I’m still not 100% where my votes will go, other than they 100% won’t go to Welsh Labour, but I am curious as to who you all think your main vote will go to

Vote for one option as your preferred party or not in the poll above

Joining in with a concerted effort to dicredit reform ?

Thats what reform voters might believe

I Am Cardiff born and Welsh through and through , yet my Welsh speaking is very limited - 1970's Cardiff Llanrumney education, where Welsh was a piss take skiving lesson and very few had interest, including the teachers.

Overall a good education and then the university of life, I am now 65 years young.

I lived in Gwynedd north west Wales for a time and even though I mixed into community and played Rugby for local team and bought a house there, myself and others who were not welsh speakers were shunned by most locals and once told "I was not a real Welshman, because I didn't speak Welsh" . to which I retorted that I was born and lived most of my life in the Capital of Wales, which makes me MORE qualified as a Welshman than you ! I WAS DRIVEN OUT and how glad I was to move to Powys - Much more civilized

So, My opinion, having experienced Nationalism first hand, is that I would never ever vote Plaid Cymru and their socialist hidden agendas. (Wolves in sheep's clothing )

Unfortunately, my new massive senedd constituency (Gwynedd Maldwyn) Plaid Cymru will most likely win 5 out of 6 seats here

I am hoping you lot down South and up North will vote in enough Reform candidates into a Senedd majority to beat a Labour/Plaid coalition.

As "Jock" says, Welsh by Birth and British By Nationality ! - Proud to be Welsh and British.

I have given my one comment on this thread). Basically, that is to ask City fans to think carefully before voting Reform. They are a party that make unfounded claims and simple answers to problems that dont have simple answers! Theircental message is based on false claims based on immigration. We are all against illegal immigration and it needs tackling BUT, the numbers in Wales are incredibly small. Reform is a rich posh boys party who will make the rich richer and everyone else poorer.

Only 5% of people in Wales were born anywhere outside the UK. Wheras over 9% answered the last census in Wales to say they are English (as opposed to British), and another 21% were born in England. I have nothing against England Ireland and Scotland ( even Jock!). However I see mysef as Welsh first and British second.I am proud to be Welsh

To Powys Blue I say by all means speak as you find, but my experience is very different to yours. Funnily enough,
I was also from Llanrumney and went to school there.(Ball Road) and then college in England. In my 30s moved to North Wales.i found the people in North Wales to be fine, just like in Cardiff. Over the years I have learned Welsh because I was amazed that people in the area speak through the medium of Welsh as their first language! I think thats great.In Ball Road only a couple of teachers did! If I went to live in France Id have learned French.
So speak as you find I guess. But, most importantly. I think we are all born equal whatever your nationality, colour, religion etc. i.e. don’t dislike all Jews or all Muslims or all Blacks or all Reform voters or all Plaid supporters etc etc
We should only judge people by what they do - judge individuals by their actions!
We need less division in society not more!

Can’t fault you learning Welsh, in a Welsh speaking region. My issue with the language is, for political reasons, it’s being forced on English speakers in English speaking areas. The true cost of pushing Welsh is astronomical and I believe the money could be better spent elsewhere. I get the cultural angle but that apart, I don’t see any commercial or economic benefit to the country.Quite the reverse in fact.

I Am Cardiff born and Welsh through and through , yet my Welsh speaking is very limited - 1970's Cardiff Llanrumney education, where Welsh was a piss take skiving lesson and very few had interest, including the teachers.

Overall a good education and then the university of life, I am now 65 years young.

I lived in Gwynedd north west Wales for a time and even though I mixed into community and played Rugby for local team and bought a house there, myself and others who were not welsh speakers were shunned by most locals and once told "I was not a real Welshman, because I didn't speak Welsh" . to which I retorted that I was born and lived most of my life in the Capital of Wales, which makes me MORE qualified as a Welshman than you ! I WAS DRIVEN OUT and how glad I was to move to Powys - Much more civilized

So, My opinion, having experienced Nationalism first hand, is that I would never ever vote Plaid Cymru and their socialist hidden agendas. (Wolves in sheep's clothing )

Unfortunately, my new massive senedd constituency (Gwynedd Maldwyn) Plaid Cymru will most likely win 5 out of 6 seats here

I am hoping you lot down South and up North will vote in enough Reform candidates into a Senedd majority to beat a Labour/Plaid coalition.

As "Jock" says, Welsh by Birth and British By Nationality ! - Proud to be Welsh and British.

I have given my one comment on this thread). Basically, that is to ask City fans to think carefully before voting Reform. They are a party that make unfounded claims and simple answers to problems that dont have simple answers! Theircental message is based on false claims based on immigration. We are all against illegal immigration and it needs tackling BUT, the numbers in Wales are incredibly small. Reform is a rich posh boys party who will make the rich richer and everyone else poorer.

Only 5% of people in Wales were born anywhere outside the UK. Wheras over 9% answered the last census in Wales to say they are English (as opposed to British), and another 21% were born in England. I have nothing against England Ireland and Scotland ( even Jock!). However I see mysef as Welsh first and British second.I am proud to be Welsh

To Powys Blue I say by all means speak as you find, but my experience is very different to yours. Funnily enough,
I was also from Llanrumney and went to school there.(Ball Road) and then college in England. In my 30s moved to North Wales.i found the people in North Wales to be fine, just like in Cardiff. Over the years I have learned Welsh because I was amazed that people in the area speak through the medium of Welsh as their first language! I think thats great.In Ball Road only a couple of teachers did! If I went to live in France Id have learned French.
So speak as you find I guess. But, most importantly. I think we are all born equal whatever your nationality, colour, religion etc. i.e. don’t dislike all Jews or all Muslims or all Blacks or all Reform voters or all Plaid supporters etc etc
We should only judge people by what they do - judge individuals by their actions!
We need less division in society not more!

Can’t fault you learning Welsh, in a Welsh speaking region. My issue with the language is, for political reasons, it’s being forced on English speakers in English speaking areas. The true cost of pushing Welsh is astronomical and I believe the money could be better spent elsewhere. I get the cultural angle but that apart, I don’t see any commercial or economic benefit to the country.Quite the reverse in fact.

There is no commercial benefit it's the only language in the world spoken purely for spite. Absolutely nobody that speaks Welsh can't speak English.

BlueGog where arte thou?

I’d like to believe the forum vote reflects how people will actually vote in the Welsh elections, and that Reform will run away with it, but I just can’t see that happening.

Realistically, it seems far more likely we’ll end up with another form of a Plaid Cymru / Welsh Labour, which, in my view, just means more of the same for Wales, or possibly even worse.

There’s also a long track record of voting in Wales that’s hard to ignore. Despite widespread criticism, Welsh Labour have been returned to power for decades, and many hope Plaid Cymru will be better!

I’d like to believe the forum vote reflects how people will actually vote in the Welsh elections, and that Reform will run away with it, but I just can’t see that happening.

Realistically, it seems far more likely we’ll end up with another form of a Plaid Cymru / Welsh Labour, which, in my view, just means more of the same for Wales, or possibly even worse.

There’s also a long track record of voting in Wales that’s hard to ignore. Despite widespread criticism, Welsh Labour have been returned to power for decades, and many hope Plaid Cymru will be better!

I think you will probably be right, although I think the vote on this Forum may well reflect the voting public in our own area. However, I feel that people (or is it pobl?) in other parts of Wales will think and vote a little more ‘localised’ manner, which is where Plaid Cymru may well get their biggest votes

I’m still personally undecided but repeat that I simply cannot vote for Welsh Labour or (now Plaid Cymru) on the grounds of perceived (at this time) collusion, which was somewhat hinted at yesterday when the First Minister herself said people should ‘vote Plaid Cymru’

A ‘faux pas’, of course, but the timing was immense!

I’d like to believe the forum vote reflects how people will actually vote in the Welsh elections, and that Reform will run away with it, but I just can’t see that happening.

Realistically, it seems far more likely we’ll end up with another form of a Plaid Cymru / Welsh Labour, which, in my view, just means more of the same for Wales, or possibly even worse.

There’s also a long track record of voting in Wales that’s hard to ignore. Despite widespread criticism, Welsh Labour have been returned to power for decades, and many hope Plaid Cymru will be better!

I think you will probably be right, although I think the vote on this Forum may well reflect the voting public in our own area. However, I feel that people (or is it pobl?) in other parts of Wales will think and vote a little more ‘localised’ manner, which is where Plaid Cymru may well get their biggest votes

I’m still personally undecided but repeat that I simply cannot vote for Welsh Labour or (now Plaid Cymru) on the grounds of perceived (at this time) collusion, which was somewhat hinted at yesterday when the First Minister herself said people should ‘vote Plaid Cymru’

A ‘faux pas’, of course, but the timing was immense!

Yes, Eluned Morrrgan dropped a bollock yesterday, which shows exactly what she thinks, even though she blamed the welsh language!

There's a lot of untruths out there which is quite odd for a senedd election that doesn't usually draw much attention.
Here's one...
Plaid = Labour. Since it's founding the Senedd has had a different voting system to Westminster's first past the post. The old system and the new one for this election is like one most European use. This means that you rarely (virtually impossible) have one party in complete control. This means parties have to work together to get things done. This is what Plaid and the Lib Dems have done in Wales on occasions. Plaid demanded free school meals for primary children in return for their support.
This also means of course that it is very unlikely Reform will gain power as no one will work with them regardless if they gain most seats.

With so many Reform supporters on this forum, I'd really like to know which of Reform's policies they support?