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Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:46 pm

We are on a bit of a poor run results wise, but still if we win our game in hand we go top.

We had so many chances today just poor execution, the manager can’t take blame for that, I believe he picked a team that would win the game. Players need to practice their finishing in my eyes.

But not worrying yet although I will say BBM needs to get the results back on track. But we are still up there so I’m happy with how the season has gone so far.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:49 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:01 pm

Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Wow he’s only given you some facts about the game.

And I disagree if you don’t have the football you can’t create chances, so possession does win games as long as you put your chances away, we didn’t and that is down to the players not the manager.

We are up there and if we win our game in hand we go top. We are not entitled to win every game. Although the result is disappointing we created so many chances just the players finishing was not good enough.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sat Nov 08, 2025 11:23 pm

Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 6:53 am

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Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:49 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

He angry and he's allowed to be after that result.

You were always gonna be in the firing line with the way you word your threads so take it on the chin.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:07 am

Maloby_Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

He angry and he's allowed to be after that result.

You were always gonna be in the firing line with the way you word your threads so take it on the chin.

We're all not happy about that result but it's not Ned's fault and ketteringblues reaction to Ned was way OTT.

Ned just replied with the stats that show ketteringblue was incorrect.

As for his personal attack at Ned, all regular posters and readers of this forum know Ned is the biggest optimist on here and I enjoy reading his posts even if I don't agree with them all the time.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:43 am

Me and my boy were in floods of tears leaving the ground yesterday. It’s all too much. BBM has to go

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 11:57 am

joeywills98 wrote:Me and my boy were in floods of tears leaving the ground yesterday. It’s all too much. BBM has to go


Has to be a wind up??

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 12:41 pm

maccydee wrote:
joeywills98 wrote:Me and my boy were in floods of tears leaving the ground yesterday. It’s all too much. BBM has to go


Has to be a wind up??

:laughing5:

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 1:06 pm

MikeO76 wrote:
Maloby_Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

He angry and he's allowed to be after that result.

You were always gonna be in the firing line with the way you word your threads so take it on the chin.

We're all not happy about that result but it's not Ned's fault and ketteringblues reaction to Ned was way OTT.

Ned just replied with the stats that show ketteringblue was incorrect.

As for his personal attack at Ned, all regular posters and readers of this forum know Ned is the biggest optimist on here and I enjoy reading his posts even if I don't agree with them all the time.



The stats tell one story but the game shows another? 28 shots 10 on target but of those 10 how many were dangerous 3? As for crosses how many resulted in decent goal attempts? was a couple probably.... Blackpool didn't need to cross ball or have many shots as scored in front of goal one on one with trott 3 times... that's the facts of match and other games similarly we out shot out crossed teams but it didn't help us win games.... and besides poor finishing got to ask question why do chances fall to non strikers like missed header? Because we don't look for Salech in area or Robinson when hes on its usually just hit and hope crossing... when we get it right Salech scores as its been proven. But dont get it right enough.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 1:38 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Maloby_Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

He angry and he's allowed to be after that result.

You were always gonna be in the firing line with the way you word your threads so take it on the chin.

We're all not happy about that result but it's not Ned's fault and ketteringblues reaction to Ned was way OTT.

Ned just replied with the stats that show ketteringblue was incorrect.

As for his personal attack at Ned, all regular posters and readers of this forum know Ned is the biggest optimist on here and I enjoy reading his posts even if I don't agree with them all the time.



The stats tell one story but the game shows another? 28 shots 10 on target but of those 10 how many were dangerous 3? As for crosses how many resulted in decent goal attempts? was a couple probably.... Blackpool didn't need to cross ball or have many shots as scored in front of goal one on one with trott 3 times... that's the facts of match and other games similarly we out shot out crossed teams but it didn't help us win games.... and besides poor finishing got to ask question why do chances fall to non strikers like missed header? Because we don't look for Salech in area or Robinson when hes on its usually just hit and hope crossing... when we get it right Salech scores as its been proven. But dont get it right enough.

We crossed the ball into the area for Salech 3 times in the first 33 minutes yesterday, all good crosses into him but he didn't challenge for one of them. The issue isn't all down to crossing the ball as many think. We do cross the ball as you mentioned but we need our strikers to attack the ball which Salech doesn't do enough of.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 1:51 pm

I enjoy reading this forum and being so far from CCS it’s great to be in touch with other City supporters no matter if I agree with you or not. Those who know me know I’m City through and through especially because of my dad.

My original comment was yes critical of the team not just about yesterday but based over the last couple of months. Wrexham apart I think we’ve been shit at times and our lofty position in the table is a false representation of how we’ve performed. The footballing Gods have until recently been very kind to us.

The standard knee jerk reply by some (Worcester) is “ohh you’re having a meltdown” basically telling you to shut up, when you say anything negative even if you do explain your thoughts. It’s my personal opinion after all and that’s what this forum is all about. I even preempted that by saying I’m not having one. Now I don’t know Ned and don’t wish to, but as Maloby_Blue also said, I often I find his posts condescending and belittling especially if I you disagree and go against his own views. Unless you’re Annis of course, he wouldn’t dare say a bloody word.
It was only after his repeated “yes you are having a meltdown” sarky comment that it all became personal.

As far as I am concerned the team has fundamental issues throughout the side. Only Trott gives me any confidence and this all stems from the manager. I suppose the reality is that’s why we find ourselves in League 1.

If I can’t post how I honestly feel without being patronised, then I’ll sadly just stop posting.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:07 pm

I suspect Worcester is aiming this at the people who seem really happy when we lose because they are able to come and have a go. There are a fair few in that category sadly.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:08 pm

Ketteringblues wrote:I enjoy reading this forum and being so far from CCS it’s great to be in touch with other City supporters no matter if I agree with you or not. Those who know me know I’m City through and through especially because of my dad.

My original comment was yes critical of the team not just about yesterday but based over the last couple of months. Wrexham apart I think we’ve been shit at times and our lofty position in the table is a false representation of how we’ve performed. The footballing Gods have until recently been very kind to us.

The standard knee jerk reply by some (Worcester) is “ohh you’re having a meltdown” basically telling you to shut up, when you say anything negative even if you do explain your thoughts. It’s my personal opinion after all and that’s what this forum is all about. I even preempted that by saying I’m not having one. Now I don’t know Ned and don’t wish to, but as Maloby_Blue also said, I often I find his posts condescending and belittling especially if I you disagree and go against his own views. Unless you’re Annis of course, he wouldn’t dare say a bloody word.
It was only after his repeated “yes you are having a meltdown” sarky comment that it all became personal.

As far as I am concerned the team has fundamental issues throughout the side. Only Trott gives me any confidence and this all stems from the manager. I suppose the reality is that’s why we find ourselves in League 1.

If I can’t post how I honestly feel without being patronised, then I’ll sadly just stop posting.


I didn't tell you to shut up. Can you show me where I said that? Can anyone show me where I said that to you?

All I did was point out some stats which contradicted some of your comments. I also did say you had a fair point about defending.

You said you weren't having a meltdown but I suggested you were given that the stats pointed in an opposition direction to what you said.

I feel vindicated in that, following your unmeasured response to me.

If you want to have a meltdown that's fine but you should own it. Like I said, I won't be joining in with the meltdown that's all.

Oh and by the way, me and Annis constantly disagree on many things - including on this thread.

Up to you if you stop posting on here or not but please don't gaslight things into saying I'm being personal when I'm just rebuking a few of your comments.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:09 pm

maccydee wrote:
joeywills98 wrote:Me and my boy were in floods of tears leaving the ground yesterday. It’s all too much. BBM has to go


Has to be a wind up??


It is. That same poster said the other day that he's not been to a game this season.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:31 pm

MikeO76 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Maloby_Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

He angry and he's allowed to be after that result.

You were always gonna be in the firing line with the way you word your threads so take it on the chin.

We're all not happy about that result but it's not Ned's fault and ketteringblues reaction to Ned was way OTT.

Ned just replied with the stats that show ketteringblue was incorrect.

As for his personal attack at Ned, all regular posters and readers of this forum know Ned is the biggest optimist on here and I enjoy reading his posts even if I don't agree with them all the time.



The stats tell one story but the game shows another? 28 shots 10 on target but of those 10 how many were dangerous 3? As for crosses how many resulted in decent goal attempts? was a couple probably.... Blackpool didn't need to cross ball or have many shots as scored in front of goal one on one with trott 3 times... that's the facts of match and other games similarly we out shot out crossed teams but it didn't help us win games.... and besides poor finishing got to ask question why do chances fall to non strikers like missed header? Because we don't look for Salech in area or Robinson when hes on its usually just hit and hope crossing... when we get it right Salech scores as its been proven. But dont get it right enough.

We crossed the ball into the area for Salech 3 times in the first 33 minutes yesterday, all good crosses into him but he didn't challenge for one of them. The issue isn't all down to crossing the ball as many think. We do cross the ball as you mentioned but we need our strikers to attack the ball which Salech doesn't do enough of.


Don't you mean striker? Didn't realise we played with more than Salech upfront? 3 crosses in 33mins! That's one every ten mins on that basis considering we spend 60%+ in final 3rd of pitch wheres the ball rest of time? Can't argue about the stats but can argue the effectiveness of the stats quoted.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:32 pm

Football is a lot like politics; you hold a view that may drift over the years, and if you go onto a debating platform, you want to validate it.

I was in the Nathan Jones camp. We needed to stop going for cheap gambles, and Worcester was always in the something new and modern category. I don't particularly watch Man City and find even with all their great players, laborious and slow. With no skin in the game, i preferred Klopball to Pepball. So I wasn't overly happy with i thought was another Pep clone. I remember we were both in the anyone but Ramsey camp.

I think Pep is a one-off genius, whether he has been gifted it or he is gifted, I don't know, but i don't think his view of the game translates well outside of the elite or his office.

When BBM started, we appeared to get the ball forward quicker and i thought he had taken what Pep taught him and adapted it, wow, he is the real deal. That has stalled, and the jury is out whether this is a blip and he'll sort it out or this will be the norm as the system is the system.

Social media does not represent how we act at the grounds. We supported all the managers longer than Tan, very rarely do we not support the manager, so there's no negativity seeping into the terraces. But it's right to call out what a lot of us believe. He is playing square pegs in round holes for the system.

Worcester's passive-aggressive tones are a defense mechanism. We lost again to a team who were in the relegation zone !!! Of course, there was going to be carnage after the run we have been on, so he was semi-dousing the fire before it erupted.

He is all in on BBM, so am i, but he needs to adapt or just be another theorist development coach.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:54 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Maloby_Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

He angry and he's allowed to be after that result.

You were always gonna be in the firing line with the way you word your threads so take it on the chin.

We're all not happy about that result but it's not Ned's fault and ketteringblues reaction to Ned was way OTT.

Ned just replied with the stats that show ketteringblue was incorrect.

As for his personal attack at Ned, all regular posters and readers of this forum know Ned is the biggest optimist on here and I enjoy reading his posts even if I don't agree with them all the time.



The stats tell one story but the game shows another? 28 shots 10 on target but of those 10 how many were dangerous 3? As for crosses how many resulted in decent goal attempts? was a couple probably.... Blackpool didn't need to cross ball or have many shots as scored in front of goal one on one with trott 3 times... that's the facts of match and other games similarly we out shot out crossed teams but it didn't help us win games.... and besides poor finishing got to ask question why do chances fall to non strikers like missed header? Because we don't look for Salech in area or Robinson when hes on its usually just hit and hope crossing... when we get it right Salech scores as its been proven. But dont get it right enough.

We crossed the ball into the area for Salech 3 times in the first 33 minutes yesterday, all good crosses into him but he didn't challenge for one of them. The issue isn't all down to crossing the ball as many think. We do cross the ball as you mentioned but we need our strikers to attack the ball which Salech doesn't do enough of.


Don't you mean striker? Didn't realise we played with more than Salech upfront? 3 crosses in 33mins! That's one every ten mins on that basis considering we spend 60%+ in final 3rd of pitch wheres the ball rest of time? Can't argue about the stats but can argue the effectiveness of the stats quoted.

I said strikers because I didn't want to single out Salech, I've taken enough abuse over my opinion of him and I was referring to the squad so including Robbo in that.

The effectiveness of the stats is BBM's problem and he needs to sort it out asap.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:54 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Football is a lot like politics; you hold a view that may drift over the years, and if you go onto a debating platform, you want to validate it.

I was in the Nathan Jones camp. We needed to stop going for cheap gambles, and Worcester was always in the something new and modern category. I don't particularly watch Man City and find even with all their great players, laborious and slow. With no skin in the game, i preferred Klopball to Pepball. So I wasn't overly happy with i thought was another Pep clone. I remember we were both in the anyone but Ramsey camp.

I think Pep is a one-off genius, whether he has been gifted it or he is gifted, I don't know, but i don't think his view of the game translates well outside of the elite or his office.

When BBM started, we appeared to get the ball forward quicker and i thought he had taken what Pep taught him and adapted it, wow, he is the real deal. That has stalled, and the jury is out whether this is a blip and he'll sort it out or this will be the norm as the system is the system.

Social media does not represent how we act at the grounds. We supported all the managers longer than Tan, very rarely do we not support the manager, so there's no negativity seeping into the terraces. But it's right to call out what a lot of us believe. He is playing square pegs in round holes for the system.

Worcester's passive-aggressive tones are a defense mechanism. We lost again to a team who were in the relegation zone !!! Of course, there was going to be carnage after the run we have been on, so he was semi-dousing the fire before it erupted.

He is all in on BBM, so am i, but he needs to adapt or just be another theorist development coach.



Said this previously bbm plays pep football of previous years (when he was at man c) but this season peps changed its more direct play with old pep football when want game management but this is why they've conceded late goals (watch lot man c) ... bbm needs to adapt like you say but yet to see any change? Most subs like for like instead of maybe add extra player in midfield ect not just take one of and put same on... and look at game and use subs appropriately not 2 or 3 on 60mins+ regardless of way game is going.....several times we needed change at halftime it never came .. not saying its always wrong but its to fixed.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:04 pm

MikeO76 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
MikeO76 wrote:
Maloby_Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Ketteringblues wrote:Sick and tired of the “their keeper was MOTM” bollox and some of the comments on here (no names mentioned as don’t wish this post to get personal). If anything I’m envious of people’s blind faith.
Remember this is a results business and after yet another loss to a bottom of the table side. A few honest home truths…

We don’t shoot.
We can’t cross the ball.
We can’t defend.
We are powderpuff in midfield and our wide men are incredibly lightweight, getting bullied off the ball far far too easily.
When put under pressure, Rubin disappears. Without him we have literally zero creativity.
Still far too many sideways and backwards passes… mainly due to a complete lack of movement. Same happens at throw ins.
Not a stable side. BBM has earned the title of Tinkerman.

But even if you ignore all the above (and most I speak to see exactly the same problems as me) what concerns me the most is BBM’s stubbornness to change a system and formation that’s clearly not working. Riza mark II all over again. Why is it that EVERY first half we start slow and always end up chasing the game? His reluctance to play 2 up front is just staggering.
Now if you’ve bothered to read all that, please know I’m not having a meltdown. I’m just pissed off. With the talent and squad we have available, I am still of the opinion we should never have been relegated, yet here we find ourselves losing to sides who have already been hammered by lesser teams. Mark my words, this will continue until Vincent wields his axe. We’ll find ourselves back at square one and with luck, mid table.


We don't shoot?

We had 28 shots, nine more than Blackpool.

Crossing? We had double the amount of successful crosses compared to Blackpool. We also had a higher amount of crosses and a bigger percentage of our crosses were successful compared to them.

Nothing wrong with the way we're playing in terms of attacking - we had 47 touches in Blackpool's area compared to their 17!!

The issue was they took their good chances and we just didn't.

So you are having a meltdown, because all this proves what you're saying is incorrect.

The defensive points are fair but not the attacking points.



Touches in the box??? What on Earth are you on?
Since when has possession won you games.
As for meltdown, the only fecking thing that gives me a meltdown is reading the absolute tripe spouted by you.
I thought your undying love and support for Riza was cringey enough. Jesus H Christ man, we’re all loyal to City come rain or shine through good or bad, but those having a moan at the recent poor performances can’t all be wrong when we all see the same thing. Strewth


Think you need to calm down a bit.

He angry and he's allowed to be after that result.

You were always gonna be in the firing line with the way you word your threads so take it on the chin.

We're all not happy about that result but it's not Ned's fault and ketteringblues reaction to Ned was way OTT.

Ned just replied with the stats that show ketteringblue was incorrect.

As for his personal attack at Ned, all regular posters and readers of this forum know Ned is the biggest optimist on here and I enjoy reading his posts even if I don't agree with them all the time.



The stats tell one story but the game shows another? 28 shots 10 on target but of those 10 how many were dangerous 3? As for crosses how many resulted in decent goal attempts? was a couple probably.... Blackpool didn't need to cross ball or have many shots as scored in front of goal one on one with trott 3 times... that's the facts of match and other games similarly we out shot out crossed teams but it didn't help us win games.... and besides poor finishing got to ask question why do chances fall to non strikers like missed header? Because we don't look for Salech in area or Robinson when hes on its usually just hit and hope crossing... when we get it right Salech scores as its been proven. But dont get it right enough.

We crossed the ball into the area for Salech 3 times in the first 33 minutes yesterday, all good crosses into him but he didn't challenge for one of them. The issue isn't all down to crossing the ball as many think. We do cross the ball as you mentioned but we need our strikers to attack the ball which Salech doesn't do enough of.


Don't you mean striker? Didn't realise we played with more than Salech upfront? 3 crosses in 33mins! That's one every ten mins on that basis considering we spend 60%+ in final 3rd of pitch wheres the ball rest of time? Can't argue about the stats but can argue the effectiveness of the stats quoted.

I said strikers because I didn't want to single out Salech, I've taken enough abuse over my opinion of him and I was referring to the squad so including Robbo in that.

The effectiveness of the stats is BBM's problem and he needs to sort it out asap.


Salech is not the problem its the service that's the problem lost count how many times he's called for the ball only to see it go backwards or sideways and his opportunity is lost.... can't really cririsise him when he's frustrated at the service he's "not" getting.... one easy way to change is get forward but then don't hold onto ball keep going forward this way defenders are not set! Way we play at moment they can have tea party waiting for the ball to get to penalty area.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:10 pm

2 points off top with a game in hand.

Fewest goals conceded in the league.

Third highest scorers in the league.

Last 8 in the league cup.

Lawlor, Kpakio, Davies, Joel & Rubin - homegrown first team regulars and broken into the Welsh squad.

Bagan, Ashford another two homegrown talents regulars in the side and doing well with others including Mafico, Nyakuhwah, Giles all looking like good prospects and in and around the first team.

Articulate, knowledgeable and well connected manager, passionate about the club, engaged with the fans, implementing a philosophy and style across the club not just first team.

Go through a bit of a rough patch for a few games, including playing two sides going through a new manager bounce and the sky is suddenly falling in.

Honestly, feel embarrassed to be a City fan reading this thread.

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 4:18 pm

Not 1 person giving blackpool credit for a tremendous win against a team that will be top 2 come end of season

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:22 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Football is a lot like politics; you hold a view that may drift over the years, and if you go onto a debating platform, you want to validate it.

I was in the Nathan Jones camp. We needed to stop going for cheap gambles, and Worcester was always in the something new and modern category. I don't particularly watch Man City and find even with all their great players, laborious and slow. With no skin in the game, i preferred Klopball to Pepball. So I wasn't overly happy with i thought was another Pep clone. I remember we were both in the anyone but Ramsey camp.

I think Pep is a one-off genius, whether he has been gifted it or he is gifted, I don't know, but i don't think his view of the game translates well outside of the elite or his office.

When BBM started, we appeared to get the ball forward quicker and i thought he had taken what Pep taught him and adapted it, wow, he is the real deal. That has stalled, and the jury is out whether this is a blip and he'll sort it out or this will be the norm as the system is the system.

Social media does not represent how we act at the grounds. We supported all the managers longer than Tan, very rarely do we not support the manager, so there's no negativity seeping into the terraces. But it's right to call out what a lot of us believe. He is playing square pegs in round holes for the system.

Worcester's passive-aggressive tones are a defense mechanism. We lost again to a team who were in the relegation zone !!! Of course, there was going to be carnage after the run we have been on, so he was semi-dousing the fire before it erupted.

He is all in on BBM, so am i, but he needs to adapt or just be another theorist development coach.



Said this previously bbm plays pep football of previous years (when he was at man c) but this season peps changed its more direct play with old pep football when want game management but this is why they've conceded late goals (watch lot man c) ... bbm needs to adapt like you say but yet to see any change? Most subs like for like instead of maybe add extra player in midfield ect not just take one of and put same on... and look at game and use subs appropriately not 2 or 3 on 60mins+ regardless of way game is going.....several times we needed change at halftime it never came .. not saying its always wrong but its to fixed.



Talking of pep football! They scored a goal from there own corner flag passed it 20 times with all outfield players touching ball and scored! Hope bbm is not watching it.. :laughing6:

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:28 pm

Seasider 63 wrote:Not 1 person giving blackpool credit for a tremendous win against a team that will be top 2 come end of season



Your right of course but it's hard to give credit when 2 goals came from poor defending and 1 from reffing aboration... but can't get away from fact you set up to negate us and it worked through you taking your chances and keeper excellence plus our poor finishing a great result for you..... but that's football

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:47 pm

There's one thing that does worry me bbm says he don't want anymore players because it would mean upsetting the squad plus leaving out youngsters that he's trying to bring into the team now we need reinforcements Jan for 100% per cent something has to change

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 6:33 pm

I don't believe a single word that comes from any manager's mouth when it comes to transfers and BBM is as honest a manager we have had

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:17 pm

desbluebird wrote:There's one thing that does worry me bbm says he don't want anymore players because it would mean upsetting the squad plus leaving out youngsters that he's trying to bring into the team now we need reinforcements Jan for 100% per cent something has to change

That’s more because the board won’t back him so he’s going to say that in he

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:50 pm

desbluebird wrote:There's one thing that does worry me bbm says he don't want anymore players because it would mean upsetting the squad plus leaving out youngsters that he's trying to bring into the team now we need reinforcements Jan for 100% per cent something has to change

That’s more because the board won’t back him so he’s going to say that in he

Re: " I won't be joining in with the anticipated meltdown "

Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:17 pm

Seasider 63 wrote:Not 1 person giving blackpool credit for a tremendous win against a team that will be top 2 come end of season


Mind the Gap ;) :D , I thought Blackpool were the better side, Honeyman bossed the entire game in midfield and you could see the plan was counter attack the press which they did very well, though I did believe the ref is a Blackpool fan.. well deserved 3-0 win though but if we had our shooting boots it would have and should have been an 8-8 draw :bluebird: