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Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:22 pm

Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties

Is that all you can find on Google. Yet again you’re talking out your fuckin arse. There’s nothing on the link that, even remotely supports your retarded, blinkered, one eyed view. Just utter bollox.

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:32 pm

Sludge wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
montyblue wrote:
MorgCCFC wrote:I agreed with a lot he said, not everything, but a lot. A difference of opinion shouldn’t make you a target. Worlds gone mental. I think this will spark something bigger in the US and it’s not going to be pretty.



Far left going around calling anyone who does not agree with them nazis ,
this is what you get some lonny lefter not liking anything right wing.

Agree


What about that far right nazi that murdered jo Cox?


Were the “far” right laughing and celebrating her murder?

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:56 pm

I don't know about Jo but in the USA they were celebrating & making jokes when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked by a right wing nutcase in his own house, Trump jr. was even making jokes about it on truth social. They also thought it was funny when the Minnesota lawmaker & her husband & dog were gunned down on their doorstep by another right wing nutcase proving that there are crazies on both sides.

Nobody on either side deserves to die for their political beliefs & the president himself doesn't help things when he goes on tv & says that only democrats resort to violence thereby throwing petrol on the issue rather than bringing the temperature down like he should. He's a menace to society acting like that on tv in front of the world.

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:17 pm

Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties

Is that all you can find on Google. Yet again you’re talking out your fuckin arse. There’s nothing on the link that, even remotely supports your retarded, blinkered, one eyed view. Just utter bollox.


Thats a report backed up by evidence that right wing violence is more common than left wing violence

You asked for evidence, there it is

If you think thats me talking out of my arse there's absolutely no point in any more discussion

Its like someone saying the grass is pink when everybody knows its green

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:21 pm

Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties


You've said he's vile, a racist, blah blah blah none of which you would be able to back up by the way. He's was generally respectful when debating people his views where pretty ordinary, one of the bullets had "hey fascist catch" written on it. Don't you think people like you slandering the guy created this environment. Ohh and by the way when Jo Cox was murdered everyone said the guys a nazi piece of shit, there was none of this he got what was coming to him rhetoric. The people you disagree with aren't evil


Well this is a waste of time

Idiots on the left celebrating this guys death are nothing to do with me or anyone else

They are idiots

And of course if you dont think that a few right wing idiots wouldn't celebrate the death of a famous left winger then again its pointless bothering debating

Right wing freaks are more likely to kill someone because they hate them than the other way round

Doesn't make either much cop as a human being but it was trump who said this is typical left wing violence when of course most violence in politics comes from the right wing extremists

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:24 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:I don't know about Jo but in the USA they were celebrating & making jokes when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked by a right wing nutcase in his own house, Trump jr. was even making jokes about it on truth social. They also thought it was funny when the Minnesota lawmaker & her husband & dog were gunned down on their doorstep by another right wing nutcase proving that there are crazies on both sides.

Nobody on either side deserves to die for their political beliefs & the president himself doesn't help things when he goes on tv & says that only democrats resort to violence thereby throwing petrol on the issue rather than bringing the temperature down like he should. He's a menace to society acting like that on tv in front of the world.


Absolutely true but wasting your time with some people , including one or two on here

Most political violence comes from the right , not the left as that idiot trump said

But stuff that , none of it is acceptable

This bloke was clearly off his head and is no more representative of lefty people than Adolf Hitler is representative of conservatives

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:30 pm

MorgCCFC wrote:
Sludge wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
montyblue wrote:
MorgCCFC wrote:I agreed with a lot he said, not everything, but a lot. A difference of opinion shouldn’t make you a target. Worlds gone mental. I think this will spark something bigger in the US and it’s not going to be pretty.



Far left going around calling anyone who does not agree with them nazis ,
this is what you get some lonny lefter not liking anything right wing.

Agree


What about that far right nazi that murdered jo Cox?


Were the “far” right laughing and celebrating her murder?


Because a few cretins have celebrated his murder on social media does not mean they all did and obviously I bet a few far right nazis were happy jo Cox was murdered

I mean you are surely not suggesting that violent far right nazis are not capable of being so sick as lefty types?

Thats clearly utterly untrue

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:38 pm

Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties

Is that all you can find on Google. Yet again you’re talking out your fuckin arse. There’s nothing on the link that, even remotely supports your retarded, blinkered, one eyed view. Just utter bollox.


You are going to have to do better than that

I am calling you out and saying you didn't even read it

If you did , you will see that in the summary the authors of the report say that datasets clearly show that violence is less likely from those on the left of the political spectrum

Now if you cannot accept that and call me retarded and one eyed and blinkered then its obviously your anger at being wrong that has surfaced

Nothing I can do about that so I shall bid you farewell

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:38 pm

Everything is irrelevant, you can debate all you want.

But no one deserves what happened and that’s the end of.

A man lost his life, a wife lost a husband and 2 children lost a dad.

It doesn’t matter why he was killed, it’s a tragic event and absolutely no one deserves the actions taken against him.

It made me sick seeing the video and I don’t even know the guy. It’s shocking and beyond belief.

Is this what the human race had become. Buzzing and disgusting.

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:49 pm

ScottCcfc27 wrote:Everything is irrelevant, you can debate all you want.

But no one deserves what happened and that’s the end of.

A man lost his life, a wife lost a husband and 2 children lost a dad.

It doesn’t matter why he was killed, it’s a tragic event and absolutely no one deserves the actions taken against him.

It made me sick seeing the video and I don’t even know the guy. It’s shocking and beyond belief.

Is this what the human race had become. Buzzing and disgusting.


I totally agree with you , I couldnt watch that video , I dont know why anyone would want to

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:41 pm

Sludge wrote:
Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties


You've said he's vile, a racist, blah blah blah none of which you would be able to back up by the way. He's was generally respectful when debating people his views where pretty ordinary, one of the bullets had "hey fascist catch" written on it. Don't you think people like you slandering the guy created this environment. Ohh and by the way when Jo Cox was murdered everyone said the guys a nazi piece of shit, there was none of this he got what was coming to him rhetoric. The people you disagree with aren't evil


Well this is a waste of time

Idiots on the left celebrating this guys death are nothing to do with me or anyone else

They are idiots

And of course if you dont think that a few right wing idiots wouldn't celebrate the death of a famous left winger then again its pointless bothering debating

Right wing freaks are more likely to kill someone because they hate them than the other way round

Doesn't make either much cop as a human being but it was trump who said this is typical left wing violence when of course most violence in politics comes from the right wing extremists


There was very little in terms of celebration of Jo Cox death and I mean very little 99.9% You ploughed straight in with what a vile man he was, then onto this the right is more violent tangent. The bit you can't back up is what he said that's so terrible

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Fri Sep 12, 2025 11:56 pm

Sludge wrote:
MorgCCFC wrote:
Sludge wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
montyblue wrote:
MorgCCFC wrote:I agreed with a lot he said, not everything, but a lot. A difference of opinion shouldn’t make you a target. Worlds gone mental. I think this will spark something bigger in the US and it’s not going to be pretty.



Far left going around calling anyone who does not agree with them nazis ,
this is what you get some lonny lefter not liking anything right wing.

Agree


What about that far right nazi that murdered jo Cox?


Were the “far” right laughing and celebrating her murder?


Because a few cretins have celebrated his murder on social media does not mean they all did and obviously I bet a few far right nazis were happy jo Cox was murdered

I mean you are surely not suggesting that violent far right nazis are not capable of being so sick as lefty types?

Thats clearly utterly untrue


A few? There’s a lot more than a few. If you’re on Facebook, every page that posted about Charlie has thousands of laughter emojis and thousands of comments which were disgusting.

For the other comment. I did not suggest such a thing.

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:29 am

MorgCCFC wrote:
Sludge wrote:
MorgCCFC wrote:
Sludge wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
montyblue wrote:
MorgCCFC wrote:I agreed with a lot he said, not everything, but a lot. A difference of opinion shouldn’t make you a target. Worlds gone mental. I think this will spark something bigger in the US and it’s not going to be pretty.



Far left going around calling anyone who does not agree with them nazis ,
this is what you get some lonny lefter not liking anything right wing.

Agree


What about that far right nazi that murdered jo Cox?


Were the “far” right laughing and celebrating her murder?


Because a few cretins have celebrated his murder on social media does not mean they all did and obviously I bet a few far right nazis were happy jo Cox was murdered

I mean you are surely not suggesting that violent far right nazis are not capable of being so sick as lefty types?

Thats clearly utterly untrue


A few? There’s a lot more than a few. If you’re on Facebook, every page that posted about Charlie has thousands of laughter emojis and thousands of comments which were disgusting.

For the other comment. I did not suggest such a thing.


A few thousand comments from idiots on Facebook which has millions and millions and millions and millions of comments does not represent lefties

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/ ... supporter/

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:38 am

Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:
Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties


You've said he's vile, a racist, blah blah blah none of which you would be able to back up by the way. He's was generally respectful when debating people his views where pretty ordinary, one of the bullets had "hey fascist catch" written on it. Don't you think people like you slandering the guy created this environment. Ohh and by the way when Jo Cox was murdered everyone said the guys a nazi piece of shit, there was none of this he got what was coming to him rhetoric. The people you disagree with aren't evil


Well this is a waste of time

Idiots on the left celebrating this guys death are nothing to do with me or anyone else

They are idiots

And of course if you dont think that a few right wing idiots wouldn't celebrate the death of a famous left winger then again its pointless bothering debating

Right wing freaks are more likely to kill someone because they hate them than the other way round

Doesn't make either much cop as a human being but it was trump who said this is typical left wing violence when of course most violence in politics comes from the right wing extremists


There was very little in terms of celebration of Jo Cox death and I mean very little 99.9% You ploughed straight in with what a vile man he was, then onto this the right is more violent tangent. The bit you can't back up is what he said that's so terrible


There were vile comments about jo Cox......if you are saying that at the time of her death there were very few then you clearly cant back that up....you have no idea

His murder was caught on video , was horrific and graphic , was shared more due to the political arena we are currently in and so was bound to get more comments .....which means more vile ones .....that doesn't mean the left are more violent or more vile which has been the arguement thrown in by that idiot trump

And its completely false

Its incredible that Trump has come out with that nonsense and also incredible that the law enforcement crew have come out with all this evidence that the shooter was some kind of lefty freak when it appears that he may well have been the opposite

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/ ... supporter/

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:41 am

Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:
Starvinmarvin wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties


You've said he's vile, a racist, blah blah blah none of which you would be able to back up by the way. He's was generally respectful when debating people his views where pretty ordinary, one of the bullets had "hey fascist catch" written on it. Don't you think people like you slandering the guy created this environment. Ohh and by the way when Jo Cox was murdered everyone said the guys a nazi piece of shit, there was none of this he got what was coming to him rhetoric. The people you disagree with aren't evil


Well this is a waste of time

Idiots on the left celebrating this guys death are nothing to do with me or anyone else

They are idiots

And of course if you dont think that a few right wing idiots wouldn't celebrate the death of a famous left winger then again its pointless bothering debating

Right wing freaks are more likely to kill someone because they hate them than the other way round

Doesn't make either much cop as a human being but it was trump who said this is typical left wing violence when of course most violence in politics comes from the right wing extremists


There was very little in terms of celebration of Jo Cox death and I mean very little 99.9% You ploughed straight in with what a vile man he was, then onto this the right is more violent tangent. The bit you can't back up is what he said that's so terrible


https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/ ... supporter/

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:26 am

Sludge wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties

Is that all you can find on Google. Yet again you’re talking out your fuckin arse. There’s nothing on the link that, even remotely supports your retarded, blinkered, one eyed view. Just utter bollox.


You are going to have to do better than that

I am calling you out and saying you didn't even read it

If you did , you will see that in the summary the authors of the report say that datasets clearly show that violence is less likely from those on the left of the political spectrum

Now if you cannot accept that and call me retarded and one eyed and blinkered then its obviously your anger at being wrong that has surfaced

Nothing I can do about that so I shall bid you farewell

Perhaps check the link you posted, there was nothing on it about left or right wing violence.

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 9:58 am

Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties

Is that all you can find on Google. Yet again you’re talking out your fuckin arse. There’s nothing on the link that, even remotely supports your retarded, blinkered, one eyed view. Just utter bollox.


You are going to have to do better than that

I am calling you out and saying you didn't even read it

If you did , you will see that in the summary the authors of the report say that datasets clearly show that violence is less likely from those on the left of the political spectrum

Now if you cannot accept that and call me retarded and one eyed and blinkered then its obviously your anger at being wrong that has surfaced

Nothing I can do about that so I shall bid you farewell

Perhaps check the link you posted, there was nothing on it about left or right wing violence.



Either you havnt read it or you have missed it all

The report concludes in the summary , at the beginning , about 6 or7 lines down that violence from people with a left wing opinion or ideology or cause ....call it what you like .... is less likely

You can disagree with the report if you like but thats what in concludes after examining the data

I cant really be of any more help

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:12 pm

What a strange thread.......One nutter is all it takes, then anonymous numpties making daft comments hiding in bedrooms!!


I want to know why the BBC decided to lead with this story this morning (again), this time about his wife. Before yesterday, I had never heard of this guy.

Apart from following city-related things on X, which i never comment on, I don't drift into AMERICAN politics.

The constant American reports on the BBC is doing my head in. Yes, they may be the most influential country in the world, but i don't need to have live updates on every school/shopping mall mass shootings; police, politicians or influencers getting murdered. It's their shit, deal with it.

I stopped watching sky news a few years ago as there are so many rehashed NBC, the parent company's reports,,,,, on the states!!!

20 mins of GB News drives me crazy, its a BTEC Fox news. Do we want to go this way? I don't think the BBC is politically biased, maybe culturally but the constant USA news is driving me away, not sure where though.

Just report on the events around the world, not just DC.

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:16 pm

Sludge wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties

Is that all you can find on Google. Yet again you’re talking out your fuckin arse. There’s nothing on the link that, even remotely supports your retarded, blinkered, one eyed view. Just utter bollox.


You are going to have to do better than that

I am calling you out and saying you didn't even read it

If you did , you will see that in the summary the authors of the report say that datasets clearly show that violence is less likely from those on the left of the political spectrum

Now if you cannot accept that and call me retarded and one eyed and blinkered then its obviously your anger at being wrong that has surfaced

Nothing I can do about that so I shall bid you farewell

Perhaps check the link you posted, there was nothing on it about left or right wing violence.



Either you havnt read it or you have missed it all

The report concludes in the summary , at the beginning , about 6 or7 lines down that violence from people with a left wing opinion or ideology or cause ....call it what you like .... is less likely

You can disagree with the report if you like but thats what in concludes after examining the data

I cant really be of any more help

The report from a far left joke outlet has picked a few random incidents, to support its one eyed view. Are you really suggesting Elias Rodriguez is far right?
There’s no statistical data supporting anything you’ve said. Just a pathetic attempt to find some moral high ground. I have eyes, I see violence from the left regularly, Epping being a prime example, where local mothers , concerned for the wellbeing of their children, were met by extreme left thugs, who arrived by train,and were then were escorted directly to the protest by the police, who incredibly transported them back to the station , in police vans. There’s well informed, intelligent Leftwing posters on here, who I can debate with, while disagreeing with their viewpoint, you on the other hand are ridiculously bias and very badly informed. I’ll leave you with this. Do you really think Islam and socialism are compatible?

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:52 pm

Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sludge wrote:https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

This concludes right wing supporters and ideologies more likely to use violence than the lefties

Is that all you can find on Google. Yet again you’re talking out your fuckin arse. There’s nothing on the link that, even remotely supports your retarded, blinkered, one eyed view. Just utter bollox.


You are going to have to do better than that

I am calling you out and saying you didn't even read it

If you did , you will see that in the summary the authors of the report say that datasets clearly show that violence is less likely from those on the left of the political spectrum

Now if you cannot accept that and call me retarded and one eyed and blinkered then its obviously your anger at being wrong that has surfaced

Nothing I can do about that so I shall bid you farewell

Perhaps check the link you posted, there was nothing on it about left or right wing violence.



Either you havnt read it or you have missed it all

The report concludes in the summary , at the beginning , about 6 or7 lines down that violence from people with a left wing opinion or ideology or cause ....call it what you like .... is less likely

You can disagree with the report if you like but thats what in concludes after examining the data

I cant really be of any more help

The report from a far left joke outlet has picked a few random incidents, to support its one eyed view. Are you really suggesting Elias Rodriguez is far right?
There’s no statistical data supporting anything you’ve said. Just a pathetic attempt to find some moral high ground. I have eyes, I see violence from the left regularly, Epping being a prime example, where local mothers , concerned for the wellbeing of their children, were met by extreme left thugs, who arrived by train,and were then were escorted directly to the protest by the police, who incredibly transported them back to the station , in police vans. There’s well informed, intelligent Leftwing posters on here, who I can debate with, while disagreeing with their viewpoint, you on the other hand are ridiculously bias and very badly informed. I’ll leave you with this. Do you really think Islam and socialism are compatible?


You have been found out

You are about as middle ground as president tito and the reaction to me providing you with a link after you asked was the work of a child who had been caught fibbing

I could have found 50 reports outlining that the majority of attacks in the last ten , twenty or 50 years were from right wing sympathisers ....people like you .....but you would have tried to weasel your way out of it

Everyone knows violence can come from all sides but you and a few others on here are right wing and everything you say politically is right wing....including the ridiculous comment that the shocking murder of this bloke was typical of the left

Clearly you and others are forgetting recent attempts to set on fire an asylum seekers hotel in Rotherham last year ....that could have been mass murder

It certainly wasn't lefties!

So spare me the yeah but what about them poor mothers in Epping....cowards are cowards from whatever spectrum .....

Now find a stream to watch the game you are boring me now with your league 2 political nonsense, the only real life experience you have is the internet

Re: O/T Charlie Kirk killed in America

Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:56 pm

llan bluebird wrote:What a strange thread.......One nutter is all it takes, then anonymous numpties making daft comments hiding in bedrooms!!


I want to know why the BBC decided to lead with this story this morning (again), this time about his wife. Before yesterday, I had never heard of this guy.

Apart from following city-related things on X, which i never comment on, I don't drift into AMERICAN politics.

The constant American reports on the BBC is doing my head in. Yes, they may be the most influential country in the world, but i don't need to have live updates on every school/shopping mall mass shootings; police, politicians or influencers getting murdered. It's their shit, deal with it.

I stopped watching sky news a few years ago as there are so many rehashed NBC, the parent company's reports,,,,, on the states!!!

20 mins of GB News drives me crazy, its a BTEC Fox news. Do we want to go this way? I don't think the BBC is politically biased, maybe culturally but the constant USA news is driving me away, not sure where though.

Just report on the events around the world, not just DC.


I think the behaviour of his wife on that tv statement was extremely odd

I am sure it was the trauma of her loss but it was very strange, not natural at all