Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:11 pm
danielrees17 wrote:dantheswansman wrote:He's right
You lot think Warnock would come in and save you hahahaha, even if he did come for a massive pay day he wouldn't save you
I've seen some claim Steve Cooper for manager , he'd rather quit football than come there
Ramsey and Ralls you say, yeah brilliant , replace a manager who barely had any experience with two who have none - genius
I remember it like it were yesterday you lot claiming your squad were a promotion pushing nailed on cert and how excited you all were
People who said they were well past their best and legs have gone were laughed away and ridiculed
I won't say I told you so but yeah
I read this forum regularly and I've never seen a more delusional bunch of people in my life
The reason the club can't sign a good manager is not because they don't try , it's because nobody wants to come there
can tell its the school holidays as you have time to come on here and not stalk the perimeters
Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:48 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Pot calling the kettle black
“I read all the comments from (Cardiff) fans and unfortunately a lot of them are clueless.”
Omer Riza:
"I know how important it is. It's a failure on my part if we go down. I have standards, goals, ideas about where I feel I can take this club.
"I have always been taught that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. It's only going to make me better, stronger. I read all the comments from fans and unfortunately a lot of them are clueless. That's what I've got to learn. To come away from that side of it, so I can stay focused.
"There are lot of good people out there and around the club and within the club. We've got to do this together."
Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:29 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:36 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:To be fair he's got a point some was talking about top six and a good season which even I called clueless that's before he become a cheap option with zero experience of it at this level. He's not helping himself really but we all know it's above who are making this club rotten or he wouldn't be in the position he's in that's for sure.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:14 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:33 pm
darran1927 wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:To be fair he's got a point some was talking about top six and a good season which even I called clueless that's before he become a cheap option with zero experience of it at this level. He's not helping himself really but we all know it's above who are making this club rotten or he wouldn't be in the position he's in that's for sure.
It’s different with fans calling other fans clueless. A manager shouldn’t be calling fans clueless under any circumstances
Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:26 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:29 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:05 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:17 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:20 pm
Maccydear wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Well said.
I am really uncomfortable with some of the treatment he is getting on a human level.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:34 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:45 pm
montyblue wrote:Maccydear wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Well said.
I am really uncomfortable with some of the treatment he is getting on a human level.
He has also said he is ready for next season and has had a chat with tan even if we are in league 1 and has earmarked players etc
Does' nt sound like he has lost the plot or crying in his coffee judging by what he said a while back.
If you think he needs a hugg fair enough but he could always leave and he is doing me no favours staying at the helm and no medals from me either.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:48 pm
Underhill1927 wrote:He does look like a broken man and it’s sad that a total meltdown is playing out in the public eye.
Tan has left him out to dry to deflect from him and his cronies shortcomings.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:00 pm
montyblue wrote:Underhill1927 wrote:He does look like a broken man and it’s sad that a total meltdown is playing out in the public eye.
Tan has left him out to dry to deflect from him and his cronies shortcomings.
There are going to be a few broken fans if we get relegated there are also lifelong fans who pop up on the screen at half time who have passed away there families maybe in the ground having to cope with sh.t I applaud them at half time and empathise with lots of people who have lost someone before I get accused of been hard faced.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:51 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:29 pm
Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:34 pm
Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:59 pm
Blue Valley wrote:I have sympathy with anyone that has lost someone, but this is a completely different subject.
It doesn’t excuse him calling us clueless, especially after we spent a season paying to watch that clown in charge and taking us down! To run down the tunnel like a gutless rat, just shows what type of person he is. He’s supposed to be leading the players, not running away!
If only he spent some of his spare time trying to get us out of this mess, rather than scrolling message boards and private messaging fans like some weirdo.
Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:04 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Chris if things got to much for him why didn't he step down? No excuses not much left on contract that was worth arguing over? The only person who thinks ge can save us from relegation is him as he says if anyone else can do better let them try? Yes gone through a lot but nobody's forced him to stay and that his decision as been depremental to the team...
And he doesn't seem to care given his statements overall.
Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:37 am
pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Chris if things got to much for him why didn't he step down? No excuses not much left on contract that was worth arguing over? The only person who thinks ge can save us from relegation is him as he says if anyone else can do better let them try? Yes gone through a lot but nobody's forced him to stay and that his decision as been depremental to the team...
And he doesn't seem to care given his statements overall.
Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:47 am
Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:01 am
Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Chris if things got to much for him why didn't he step down? No excuses not much left on contract that was worth arguing over? The only person who thinks ge can save us from relegation is him as he says if anyone else can do better let them try? Yes gone through a lot but nobody's forced him to stay and that his decision as been depremental to the team...
And he doesn't seem to care given his statements overall.
Allan, I think I agreed he shouldn’t be in the job; but I have some sympathy for where he might be in his personal life. However, he should have stood down before now rather than make it worse for himself, the club and its supporters
Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:28 am
pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes, all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down, and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Chris if things got to much for him why didn't he step down? No excuses not much left on contract that was worth arguing over? The only person who thinks ge can save us from relegation is him as he says if anyone else can do better let them try? Yes gone through a lot but nobody's forced him to stay and that his decision as been depremental to the team...
And he doesn't seem to care given his statements overall.
Allan, I think I agreed he shouldn’t be in the job; but I have some sympathy for where he might be in his personal life. However, he should have stood down before now rather than make it worse for himself, the club and its supporters
Chris have all the sympathy in world for his personal life but there's lots of managers who have stepped down because they fail to inspire players with lot longer contract than his.... to me this is more about his ego as he comes across as very arrogant last couple statements indicates this... you put team 1st not yourself like he's done? Now it's probably to late and that arrogance/ego will take us down.....
Is there any reason why he shouldn't have stepped down?
And Any reason why should stay?
Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:56 am
llan bluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes, all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down, and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Chris if things got to much for him why didn't he step down? No excuses not much left on contract that was worth arguing over? The only person who thinks ge can save us from relegation is him as he says if anyone else can do better let them try? Yes gone through a lot but nobody's forced him to stay and that his decision as been depremental to the team...
And he doesn't seem to care given his statements overall.
Allan, I think I agreed he shouldn’t be in the job; but I have some sympathy for where he might be in his personal life. However, he should have stood down before now rather than make it worse for himself, the club and its supporters
Chris have all the sympathy in world for his personal life but there's lots of managers who have stepped down because they fail to inspire players with lot longer contract than his.... to me this is more about his ego as he comes across as very arrogant last couple statements indicates this... you put team 1st not yourself like he's done? Now it's probably to late and that arrogance/ego will take us down.....
Is there any reason why he shouldn't have stepped down?
And Any reason why should stay?
Allan, he is 45 years old, isolated, untrained, and unprepared for the role he is employed for.
He must believe he is up to the job on a technical level, he has been in enough boot rooms and analyst suites to know the game, but he is not a youth team coach now; he is the leader and that was the great unknown. Leading kids eager to learn and most importantly make it in the pro game must be easy, the hard bit must be breaking hearts.
Leading a group of babies on big contracts is a different kettle of fish. Unless your footballing reputation is different gravy they must be taking the pizz out of him.
Reality bites hard and he doesn't know what to do. I doubt many have here have ever resigned without another job, he can't be a quitter as well as failure.
Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:30 am
pembroke allan wrote:llan bluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes, all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down, and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Chris if things got to much for him why didn't he step down? No excuses not much left on contract that was worth arguing over? The only person who thinks ge can save us from relegation is him as he says if anyone else can do better let them try? Yes gone through a lot but nobody's forced him to stay and that his decision as been depremental to the team...
And he doesn't seem to care given his statements overall.
Allan, I think I agreed he shouldn’t be in the job; but I have some sympathy for where he might be in his personal life. However, he should have stood down before now rather than make it worse for himself, the club and its supporters
Chris have all the sympathy in world for his personal life but there's lots of managers who have stepped down because they fail to inspire players with lot longer contract than his.... to me this is more about his ego as he comes across as very arrogant last couple statements indicates this... you put team 1st not yourself like he's done? Now it's probably to late and that arrogance/ego will take us down.....
Is there any reason why he shouldn't have stepped down?
And Any reason why should stay?
Allan, he is 45 years old, isolated, untrained, and unprepared for the role he is employed for.
He must believe he is up to the job on a technical level, he has been in enough boot rooms and analyst suites to know the game, but he is not a youth team coach now; he is the leader and that was the great unknown. Leading kids eager to learn and most importantly make it in the pro game must be easy, the hard bit must be breaking hearts.
Leading a group of babies on big contracts is a different kettle of fish. Unless your footballing reputation is different gravy they must be taking the pizz out of him.
Reality bites hard and he doesn't know what to do. I doubt many have here have ever resigned without another job, he can't be a quitter as well as failure.
You have s point but surely HD as someone to convide in for advice been in football long enough? I grant you it's extremely hard for him but what comes first team or him? Because he's put himself first all the way... still make point if went Saturday he wouldn't lose much unless of course he's been promised he's in charge next season? Which if case is ludicrous decision by a ludicrous owner.
Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:27 am
Roath_Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:llan bluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:When I saw the title of this post, my 1st reaction was it's been taken out of context. So I watched the full presser to see what was said.
Within 3-4 minutes, all I could feel was empathy and sympathy. I hate seeing any person struggle with life, Omer is unfortunately in a bad place. He's lost his father, he's probably lost the dressing room, and then we'll probably go down, and he'll lose his job.
Whoever you are, that is a sad state of affairs to be in.
To call us fans "clueless" was a bad mistake, but in the context of the above not surprising.
He's a decent guy who probably gives his all.......but a Championship Manager, on and off the field, he is not. Bless him.
Jim, nothing but respect for you, so I have to hold my hands up and say I agree!![]()
It’s far too easy to comment without considering the underlying issues and Omer Riza has been through a tough time personally. And being thrust into such a tough gig with an owner who is constantly interfering and micro-managing cannot be good for anyone’s health
‘Doing his best’ is probably right; but as you rightly say, the step up to Championship manager was simply not for him!
Chris if things got to much for him why didn't he step down? No excuses not much left on contract that was worth arguing over? The only person who thinks ge can save us from relegation is him as he says if anyone else can do better let them try? Yes gone through a lot but nobody's forced him to stay and that his decision as been depremental to the team...
And he doesn't seem to care given his statements overall.
Allan, I think I agreed he shouldn’t be in the job; but I have some sympathy for where he might be in his personal life. However, he should have stood down before now rather than make it worse for himself, the club and its supporters
Chris have all the sympathy in world for his personal life but there's lots of managers who have stepped down because they fail to inspire players with lot longer contract than his.... to me this is more about his ego as he comes across as very arrogant last couple statements indicates this... you put team 1st not yourself like he's done? Now it's probably to late and that arrogance/ego will take us down.....
Is there any reason why he shouldn't have stepped down?
And Any reason why should stay?
Allan, he is 45 years old, isolated, untrained, and unprepared for the role he is employed for.
He must believe he is up to the job on a technical level, he has been in enough boot rooms and analyst suites to know the game, but he is not a youth team coach now; he is the leader and that was the great unknown. Leading kids eager to learn and most importantly make it in the pro game must be easy, the hard bit must be breaking hearts.
Leading a group of babies on big contracts is a different kettle of fish. Unless your footballing reputation is different gravy they must be taking the pizz out of him.
Reality bites hard and he doesn't know what to do. I doubt many have here have ever resigned without another job, he can't be a quitter as well as failure.
You have s point but surely HD as someone to convide in for advice been in football long enough? I grant you it's extremely hard for him but what comes first team or him? Because he's put himself first all the way... still make point if went Saturday he wouldn't lose much unless of course he's been promised he's in charge next season? Which if case is ludicrous decision by a ludicrous owner.
Wouldn’t lose much? He’d lose at least 20k
Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:29 am
Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:09 pm
Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:44 pm
avondaleblue wrote:My daughter's boyfriend just came back from walking my dog and said Riza just repeated it on Talksport today.