BBC CHAOS: Breaking: ‘ Gary Lineker’

I seem to be in the minority that 'they boy Line-aker' (as Mick Channon used to refer to him) was bang out of order for the tone/language used; not to mention his double-standards

Was it not him who went viral in his criticism of the Qatar World Cup, only then to spend 5 whole weeks out there ...?

Whilst I would defend his right to 'freedom of speech', he has to understand that his 'expertise' is that of being that of a 'football pundit' and not a politician. He has a responsibilty as both a public figure and as an employee to 'toe-the-line' according to company rules and practices

Actions frequently have consequences and Line-akers wording has (IMHO) has overstepped the mark and incurred the wrath of the people who employ him; no to mention bringing others (maybe inadvertantly) into the fray, although I feel some of those will feel more 'obliged' than 'fully supportive' of him

Difficult to see a way back to the Beeb for him; but hey, when did logic trump 'corporate need'...?

Linekar has also offended Jews and in particular a published Holocaust survivor, here's the story from the Jewish Chronicle. I honestly don't think this is going to end well for him by using cheap sensationalist words, he's the one who should be watching his use of 'language'.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/shame-o ... 8492800011

He hasn't offended Jews.......he's offended some Jews......mostly right wing , conservative voting Jews

That twitter account you linked has loads of replies from Jewish people who say the truth ......this woman is saying Lineker has offended the holocaust survivors .......well she's offended by the holocaust but he hasn't brought that up

Jewish people are not represented by this woman . Some are but many see through this outrage and realise the words used by this current government are out of order and needed challenging

Well done Lineker

Lineker purposely and cheaply used an analogy to associate the government as being similar to Nazi Germany for dramatic effect. I'm certainly no fan of this government or the BBC for that matter but I don't think he should have used this analogy for exactly for the reasons described in the piece.

But it has divided opinion on social media, those who support him are 'woke snowflakes' and those who oppose are 'gammons, the usual nametag calling bingo as per usual, and I'm no gammon and I suspect your no snowflake.

This is also driving front page news and socials as it's clear that most Brits have had it up to the teeth with uncontrolled immigration for years, not just the recent small boats. It's been an issue under both government's and both have failed catastrophically on it. It's not right that 12 cities have 'flipped', including Lineker's hometown of Leicester. I'm not racist and nor are most Brits, kinda proven by why so many people want to come here, otherwise they just wouldn't.

If Lineker wanted to make a point, he shouldn't have used this analogy, very poor form plus his previous slagging off Qatar and then going there as a pundit just shows his hypocrisy.

Good riddance Gary.

I seem to be in the minority that 'they boy Line-aker' (as Mick Channon used to refer to him) was bang out of order for the tone/language used; not to mentionhis double-standards

Was it not him who went viral in his criticism of the Qatar World Cup, only then to spend 5 whole weeks out there ...?

Whilst I would defend his right to 'freedom of speech', he has to understand that his 'expertise' is that of being that of a 'football pundit' and not a politician. He has a responsibilty as both a public figure and as an employee to 'toe-the-line' according to company rules and practices

Actions frequently have consequences and Line-akers wording has (IMHO) has overstepped the mark and incurred the wrath of the people who employ him; no to mention bringing others (maybe inadvertantly) into the fray, although I feel some of those will feel more 'obliged' than 'fully supportive' of him

Difficult to see a way back to the Beeb for him; but hey, when did logic trump 'corporate need'...?

This is the tweet.

I cannot see how there is anything wrong with it. He’s not saying the government are acting like the Nazis, he’s not even saying that the government are directly quoting the Nazis, just that the language is dissimilar.

When you have Braverman referring to refugees as an “invasion”, insinuating that there will be 100 million of them coming to the UK, that the “law-abiding patriotic majority” have had enough of them.

How is that any different to the rhetoric of 1930s Germany making an “Us” (ie loyal, hell, even law-abiding patriotic majority) vs “Them”, the invaders?

You’re a smart guy you can tell that from your posts, but I can’t see how Lineker’s tweet crosses any unforgivable line?

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Whether through ignorance or design, high profile celebrities and politicians say shit, stir the pot and all head back to their nice homes in the nice middle class enclaves.

Meanwhile, in the real world where most of us are grinding ourselves into the dust to just try and make enough to afford the insane cost of living we are all experiencing at the moment, the left blames the right and the right blames the left, for no real reason other than habit and tribal affiliations.

Yes, the Tory's have been doing a shit job for the last 13 years. Equally, the only reason they've been in power that damn long is that Labour have consistently been a shower at each and every election. They are both awful, and even worse is there really is no realistic alternative beyond them.

It is working class towns that are suffering from mass immigration, the liberal elite is not affected or even really involved.

Just before anyone refers to Lineker's adoption of refugees lets be clear here, housing a law student and then a physics student (1) for a month or so before they head off to University, both of whom, had entered the country through legitimate channels might be a noble thing to do, all credit to him.

However, it is quite far removed from gangs of illegal migrants who burned down an army barracks because they weren't happy with their accomodation (2)

It's at best a false equivalency at worst a cynical PR stunt.

Anyway, I digress...

The way I see it, whether we want to admit it or not the UK is broken right now.

Our economy is on its knees(3), our elderly have just had to choose between eating and freezing for a winter(4) food banks have become a common part of inner city life with one in four households with children relying on them (5) youth homelessness is up 40% in the last 5 years (6)

Whichever way you want to dice it we are not a country that is in a position to be accepting half a million people in a year. (7)

That is more than the population of Cardiff and Swansea combined and it is not the affluent celebrities like Lineker that are feeling the impact of disatrous immigration policy dating back to Blaire and carried on faithfully throughout the Tory's stay in power. It is not the likes of Lineker who are reliant on the NHS or state schools whose already massively over-stretched resources are having to carry the extra burden of a population the size of Liverpool arriving within just twelve months.

End of the day, I'm a big believer in free speech. I don't think the BBC should have suspended him and don't think they contractually had a right to do so.

However, i do think he is speaking from an ignorant and arrogant position of wealth and privilege and is just a bit of a bell-end all in all.

Yet, the big take away from the coverage of this whole stupid and ultimately rather inconsequential saga for me is the simple fact that Lineker's perspective (and that of the ideology he represents) is deemed a left-wing position. This, in my eyes, just goes to further emphasise the simple truth that the working class of Britain genuinely have no one whatsoever fighting in our corner anymore.

To that point, I don't think Braveman and Sunak have any intention of following through on their position either.

It is all too common a Tory play for it not to be fairly easy to guess how it will unfold.

They'll push the big rhetoric on migration because they know it will play to a voter base desperate for someone, anyone, to give a damn about us. It is how the Tories took the north and they know that unless they make the right noises those historic wins over Labour will be reversed soon enough.

So they'll make some strong statements, even better if some useful idiot like Lineker makes a song and dance about it, to further raise the profile and give them an even greater bit of visibility as they go back and forth in the media. They'll talk tough for a bit, then when push comes to shove, it'll be same meat different gravy and nothing will change.

The British working class will slowly, bit by bit, become ever more marginalised all while the sneering liberal elite will shame us as far-right racists for asking how we as a country can justify welcoming half a million people from outside when we can't feed and home our own?

Meanwhile, Labour will still speak with the language of the left and talk of workers and the working class, but the reality is that the Labour party is nothing but the hollowed out husk of what it claims to be, of what it once was. Yet, still on both sides of the aisle, they'll do everything to convince us of an ever-growing left-right divide. They'll drive us into corners and insist we must pick our side.

End of the day, both sides will continue to play us for the fools we are. I've started to realise that they always have done and to be honest, they always will - until we realise that the divide is not left and right but top and bottom.

Anyways rant over. References below if anyone can be arsed to check the facts I listed:

1) https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity- ... e-28236563
2) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rants.html
3) https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... k-2023-imf
4) https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 60361.html
5) https://www.trusselltrust.org/2021/07/2 ... nsecurity/
6) https://www.wlm.org.uk/news/youth-homel ... 71EALw_wcB
7) https://smithstonewalters.com/2022/11/2 ... of-504000/

I won't quote Ealing's post for brevity but as ever, informed and well made and certainly echoes my views. The sad thing about all of this is that the reality is that whatever your politics or even if your understandably bored shitless of them, and at risk of sounding like a naive sociology student, the system is not for for purpose anymore and hasn't been for some years.

We've lost all confidence in it. Are people like Blair and Boris et al really the best this country has to offer as CEO's of GB Ltd?

Big business rules the world, governments tinker around the edges but are puppets ultimately on the payroll, from Westminster right down to your local LA's. Just look at your party political voting patterns for maverick planning development applications in your area for proof of noses in the trough v democracy.

And all these MSM headlines are again just a other ruse distraction to avoid focus on the real issue, which is global ownership by the 1 or 2 %. And no, I'm not a conspiracy theory crank, it's as clear as day that we are being gamed.

Oh we’re being gamed all right, while we argue over shite that Lineker says, toilets for trannys or abortion the worlds literally on the cusp of WW3 but heyho Ratheon, Lockheed Martin and GEC make billions.

As above. Eloquently put by Ealing. For politicians it really isn’t down to true left or right, it’s about “my career” and ego with them. And a lot of them are more than prepared to create real division in the population to further their career earnings. It’s a shame they can’t put their efforts into actually sorting out any challenge our country faces. Rather than looking for catchy sound bites out of the drivel they spout. to be used on short news bulletins.
For me, Lineker knew exactly what would happen tweeting the words nazi and government in the same sentence.

Good lad Lineker

Anyone getting stuck into the Tories gets my support

The Tories wanted this policy to whip things up and get them votes , the chancers .

But it's split the country

The BBC is run by a chairman who gave 800 grand to the Conservative Party

The Director General of the BBC who was talking about being non political yesterday ......tried to win a council seat for the conservatives

So bollocks to the Tories and bollocks to them asking for the BBC to be neutral

You don’t want a politically neutral BBC, you want a return to the extreme left echo chamber
When did the BBC Chairman give £800,000 to the BBC?
Good lad Lineker Bwhahahahahahaha well when he’s not trying to duck paying tax
You, like Lineker, may think tens of thousands of, predominantly, undocumented young men flooding into this country is fine, however anyone with an ounce of pragmatism can see we’re storing up massive problems for the future.
Tell me did you back Jeremy Clarkson’s right to free speech when hordes of pseudo left wangers were screaming for his head? Or is freedom of speech reserved for those you agree with?

Enjoyed match of the day last night, just football and no inane drivel form the studio pundits. Oh and the viewing figures went up by 500,000,

Good lad Lineker

Anyone getting stuck into the Tories gets my support

The Tories wanted this policy to whip things up and get them votes , the chancers .

But it's split the country

The BBC is run by a chairman who gave 800 grand to the Conservative Party

The Director General of the BBC who was talking about being non political yesterday ......tried to win a council seat for the conservatives

So bollocks to the Tories and bollocks to them asking for the BBC to be neutral

You don’t want a politically neutral BBC, you want a return to the extreme left echo chamber
When did the BBC Chairman give £800,000 to the BBC?
Good lad Lineker Bwhahahahahahaha well when he’s not trying to duck paying tax
You, like Lineker, may think tens of thousands of, predominantly, undocumented young men flooding into this country is fine, however anyone with an ounce of pragmatism can see we’re storing up massive problems for the future.
Tell me did you back Jeremy Clarkson’s right to free speech when hordes of pseudo left wangers were screaming for his head? Or is freedom of speech reserved for those you agree with?

I am not interested in left wing echo chambers or Jeremy Clarkson , I want the Tories destroyed

And if Lineker has helped , he's a good lad

Check out the money given to the tory party by the current chairman of the BBC

Good lad Lineker

Anyone getting stuck into the Tories gets my support

The Tories wanted this policy to whip things up and get them votes , the chancers .

But it's split the country

The BBC is run by a chairman who gave 800 grand to the Conservative Party

The Director General of the BBC who was talking about being non political yesterday ......tried to win a council seat for the conservatives

So bollocks to the Tories and bollocks to them asking for the BBC to be neutral

You don’t want a politically neutral BBC, you want a return to the extreme left echo chamber
When did the BBC Chairman give £800,000 to the BBC?
Good lad Lineker Bwhahahahahahaha well when he’s not trying to duck paying tax
You, like Lineker, may think tens of thousands of, predominantly, undocumented young men flooding into this country is fine, however anyone with an ounce of pragmatism can see we’re storing up massive problems for the future.
Tell me did you back Jeremy Clarkson’s right to free speech when hordes of pseudo left wangers were screaming for his head? Or is freedom of speech reserved for those you agree with?

I am not interested in left wing echo chambers or Jeremy Clarkson , I want the Tories destroyed

And if Lineker has helped , he's a good lad

Check out the money given to the tory party by the current chairman of the BBC

You got a spare room in your house in cowbridge about time you put a few boat people up , your neighbours would love you .

Another do gooder and up his own
He will never have to wait for a doctor dentist or in a queue
or live in an village where its rammed with migrants mainly young men and doubling the population of the village overnight housed in a hotel
perhaps he should house a few few in his own home give them the remote control and let them help themselves to the fridge
and if the likes of gary feels so passionate about helping out economic migrants from Albania just like these people at the oscars babling on about the plight of this and that
why don' t they give up at least half there wealth towards these economic migrants
build some houses flats hotels with there own money.

Spot on think it's called virtue signalling ,chuck in Gary Neville as well . What is the biggest worry nobody has a solution to this ,it can't go on building up ,there's 150k housed awaiting processing 90 % young single men not from war torn countries, why doesn't the Gary's speak out about how badly that effects the genuine families .

And as one immigration lawyer pointed out recently families already here fund these crossings and trafficking surely that is illegal??

It's okay for Gary to have a free sowach and view but alternative views are immediately are vilified as right wing nazis .

How is that right .

All those folk dropping down tools in suport did so in the knowledge they are extremely wealthy via taxpayers dosh and aware some other sports channel will employ them.

I here on some news outlets Match of the Day got more viewers than normal.

Win . Win ..

Good lad Lineker

Anyone getting stuck into the Tories gets my support

The Tories wanted this policy to whip things up and get them votes , the chancers .

But it's split the country

The BBC is run by a chairman who gave 800 grand to the Conservative Party

The Director General of the BBC who was talking about being non political yesterday ......tried to win a council seat for the conservatives

So bollocks to the Tories and bollocks to them asking for the BBC to be neutral

You don’t want a politically neutral BBC, you want a return to the extreme left echo chamber
When did the BBC Chairman give £800,000 to the BBC?
Good lad Lineker Bwhahahahahahaha well when he’s not trying to duck paying tax
You, like Lineker, may think tens of thousands of, predominantly, undocumented young men flooding into this country is fine, however anyone with an ounce of pragmatism can see we’re storing up massive problems for the future.
Tell me did you back Jeremy Clarkson’s right to free speech when hordes of pseudo left wangers were screaming for his head? Or is freedom of speech reserved for those you agree with?

I am not interested in left wing echo chambers or Jeremy Clarkson , I want the Tories destroyed

And if Lineker has helped , he's a good lad

Check out the money given to the tory party by the current chairman of the BBC

You live in a Leftwing echo chamber
Drakeford’s latest clown world idea is to award non white student teachers a £5K golden handshake to encourage more “BAME” people to become teachers. It’s not discriminatory because…….errrr it just isn’t. As for destroying the Tory’s they have already pushed the self destruct button and Labour will skoosh the next election. Sadly Labour, as always, will make things even worse. Ultimately we are all being played, with society split, arguing about non issues like Lineker or statues being removed, the massive upward transfer of wealth continues and 99% of us get poorer.
It’s not a change of government we need it’s a revolution

Think I’ll vote Tory at the next election.. I’m a bit like Sludge, only I’ll do everything I can to destroy this lost Labour Party.

The really concerning thing as that I don't trust any of them to run the country properly, whatever the party and I agree with Jock, a change of government won't make any difference, their all as bad as each other. We are all used to this two party bickering system that is ultimately undemocratic and isn't working, whatever your politics.

Meanwhile the former refugee Sunak has just paid for his swimming pool to be hooked up to the national grid.

Bit naive of the Prime Minister.. everybody knows that electricity and water don’t mix..

Latest ... Lineker 1 : 0 BBC .

Apologies for edit: Should read; Brand Lineker 1 - Used to be the BBC 0