If Sam came back hopefully he gets fair treatment

My family and myself would welcome Sam back with open arms and everyone I speak to say the same, he brought our cub to life and gave us nothing but success on the pitch and we lived the dream

Success on pitch what was that I must have forgotten what success we had ? Success is winning promotion or a cup not staying in a league p

So mate, two promotions, No relegations, out of the dungeon league and an fa cup success over a premier league club, you did not support them then did you?

As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?

Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Allan,

I have sent you a pm

Allan,

I have sent you a pm

Thanks

As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?

Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Annis you have said many times that Sam was at the academy games most weeks
My son was at the academy for 5 years So training 3 days a week and games on Sundays for all age groups under the age of 16 I never saw him once on a Sunday in those 5 years pr see him down the Vale when training g indoor or Treforest All i can say he must have turned up each time my sons age group played away
I was at every game for those 5 years from under 9 to under 14

My family and myself would welcome Sam back with open arms and everyone I speak to say the same, he brought our cub to life and gave us nothing but success on the pitch and we lived the dream

Success on pitch what was that I must have forgotten what success we had ? Success is winning promotion or a cup not staying in a league p

So mate, two promotions, No relegations, out of the dungeon league and an fa cup success over a premier league club, you did not support them then did you?

Nope I buy st every season just to say I support them?

As you Pembroke Allan seem to be the most hatred to Sam on this thread?

These are just for you.

Honest answers please and Cardiff City is all that matters to me in this as that’s who I care about.



We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Let me see started 1970 so seen the lot including 40 fans at blackburn southend ect .... did I enjoy promotions mmm to ill so missed 1st one 2nd one was an experience most fans wanted I enjoyed the games like most..... did I sing for sam like fck I did nor did I for any of the owners we've had since 1970? Not sure what your trying to prove? you know my views on sh it hasn't changed and won't ... sh is like any owner of a club they're suppose to be custodians of the club and nearly all have made mistakes In one way or another.... as for loving club he had a funny way of showing it lying about Langston just like he did to other club no matter what you say I still believe he had designs in doing what he did to the other club? ( should try reading about it) Even you got to admit the similarities are there to see.. if he wouldnt let club go under why was tax man continuously at the door and the other financial matters selling players ect? as owner it was his responsibility to pay them and others? If he did tan wouldn't be here now! I dont hate tan dont hate sh I just dont want him near the club again tan as made club a circus so did sh all be it in different way... I want tan gone but also want clean broom not ex owner with the baggage and divisiveness he will bring to fans no matter how much money he as... does that answer you questions? Because I've certainly made it clear in the thread why I don't want him here. And I am not alone am I?

Your in the minority
Just answer the simple questions Allan, not your life story???




We’re you supporting City before Sam’s days?
If so tell Exactly how we were doing then, crowds, league, ground , squad value , Accademy ,debt etc etc?
How come no one was interested in us back then?


So please tell Me where we were in the league and what league when Sam left ? Crowds ? Stadium, future plans? Debt, squad value etc?
Was our profile bigger? Did you welcome Sam and did you ever sing his name etc?


Did you enjoy the promotions?
Did we ever get relegated under Sam?


Sam made mistakes, he accepts and now has the money to take us forward and was virtually at every game home and away including under 21’s , under 12’s etc, does that not show that he actually cared for our club.

Sam was never ever going to put us under, that I know for a fact, not media bullshit.

Annis you have said many times that Sam was at the academy games most weeks
My son was at the academy for 5 years So training 3 days a week and games on Sundays for all age groups under the age of 16 I never saw him once on a Sunday in those 5 years pr see him down the Vale when training g indoor or Treforest All i can say he must have turned up each time my sons age group played away
I was at every game for those 5 years from under 9 to under 14

Well, i can tell you now he was and I attended with him myself and many many fans also seen him,Sam was obsessed wiyth our youth and the proof was there with how many came through.
I even went to places like Colchester with Sam to watch our youth.

Sam would attend the all the Saturday youth games before City's main home game on Saturdays.
Everyone at the club saw him and many many fans also.



So i have to say you really are talking Bollocks making out its a lie, because i saw it myself on many occasions and others did.

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Thanks Allan

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Thanks Allan

Sent pm was very interesting

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Thanks Allan

Sent pm was very interesting

I thought you might be Allan

From what I can find online, Sam was worth anywhere between $40-100 million in 2003.

There is only one recent article I can find on his current net worth, which states around $8 million.

I'm not sure how reliable either of these articles is. However, if these estimates are correct, he has lost anywhere from $30-90 million in 20 years and now suddenly has the funds to take us forward.

Is anybody able to shed a reliable light on his net worth?

If he ran out of money last time, where has this new wealth come from? Or is it part of a consortium? Or is there little to no truth in these stories?

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

And this is why so much shite is on here, whisper whisper whisper.


Thanks Allan

Sent pm was very interesting

Annis. I have always blamed Ridsdale so don't say different please and don't go near the egg chasers lol.

Annis. I have always blamed Ridsdale so don't say different please and don't go near the egg chasers lol.

Ok Jules

The egg chasers made fortunes out of us.

Annis. I have always blamed Ridsdale so don't say different please and don't go near the egg chasers lol.

Ok Jules

The egg chasers made fortunes out of us.

Annis, the problem here is that VT will never sell to Sam, so I personally do not think it will ever happen. But you can never say never

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Thanks Allan

Sent pm was very interesting

I thought you might be Allan

It doesn't mean are bussom pals but be nice from now on...

My family and myself would welcome Sam back with open arms and everyone I speak to say the same, he brought our cub to life and gave us nothing but success on the pitch and we lived the dream

Success on pitch what was that I must have forgotten what success we had ? Success is winning promotion or a cup not staying in a league p

So mate, two promotions, No relegations, out of the dungeon league and an fa cup success over a premier league club, you did not support them then did you?

Two promotions under Tan. Or is it only relegations that count?

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Thanks Allan

Sent pm was very interesting

I thought you might be Allan

It doesn't mean are bussom pals but be nice from now on...

I agree with that Allan

Annis. I have always blamed Ridsdale so don't say different please and don't go near the egg chasers lol.

Ok Jules

The egg chasers made fortunes out of us.

Annis, the problem here is that VT will never sell to Sam, so I personally do not think it will ever happen. But you can never say never

Roger,

Twice he has turned Sam down with improved offers

But you can never say never

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Thanks Allan

Sent pm was very interesting

I thought you might be Allan

It doesn't mean are bussom pals but be nice from now on...

I agree with that Allan

As you say annis tan cannot keep funding club making losses year on year at some point he'll have to sell... because we are not going to get promoted with present financial tactics... just the opposite.

Annis thanks for PM let you know by pm what goes on..

Thanks Allan

Sent pm was very interesting

I thought you might be Allan

It doesn't mean are bussom pals but be nice from now on...

I agree with that Allan

As you say annis tan cannot keep funding club making losses year on year at some point he'll have to sell... because we are not going to get promoted with present financial tactics... just the opposite.

I am the same as you on this Allan,
We will either go down this season next if we continue as we are doing.

In response to an earlier post I can say hand on heart Sam used to go to most academy games. I often went to Treforest on a Saturday and Sunday and often saw both Sam and his wife Nada there. Occasionally Bobby Gould and Lennie Lawrence.

It is because of his love of the WHOLE CLUB and not just the first team that's why I would have him back tomorrow.

As to whether Sam has the money. I believe he does. He has after all made two increased bids as others have pointed out

I do want to say something about VT. In the past few years we have had at least 3 interested parties that I know of. And Ive heard that one of those parties was quoted £250m to buy the club

Let me put it another way. Potential buyers were looking to invest in us and planning Premier league football. They said no when confronted with such a ridiculous price.

I don't know whether others have heard similar but this to me suggests VT may not put us supporters first.

When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%

Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner

When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%

Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner

Tans time is up and he knows it but is he stubborn enough not to sell to sh even if that offer met his evaluation of club? My opinions on sh is well known but at end day we need someone to change the financial landscape at the club because it's only going to end up one way and it's not promotion...... if it's going to be sh so be it it's got to be better than dying by a thousand cuts.

Have I missed somethng ? - where did this story come from ?

I dont think Sam Hammam has the money to buy

When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%

Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner

I think it’s definitely the fans he has tired of. To be fair to him we don’t deserve him. We have some awful fans.

When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%

Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner

I think it’s definitely the fans he has tired of. To be fair to him we don’t deserve him. We have some awful fans.

100%.

When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.

VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do

Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him

Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.

He will have my support 200%

Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?

Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.

No, but if you followed Sam's fortunes (very apt word here) in any sense, you would know that his return to the Middle East has reaped its rewards and some more

Have him back? As an owner and a character, I 100% would

Equally, I'm not one to condemn Vincent Tan's tenure. But if, as I now believe, he has tired of us (maybe as ungrateful fans than the club itself?) then he should sell and allow the club to go in a different direction; whether that be to Sam or another new owner

I think it’s definitely the fans he has tired of. To be fair to him we don’t deserve him. We have some awful fans.

100%.

We have an awful owner, who used us like his toy, destroyed our identity and has NO interest in us at all.
Remember i have met him personally and he gave his word over a 4hr conversation that we would not lose our identity.

What will be will be if Sam comes back then the fans against Sam will just have to give him a chance and wait and see or if it’s someone else the same fans will have to give them a chance and wait and see.

But it’s time Tan left as we will only head one way as that’s down the way we are currently being run.