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Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:53 am

Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?


Get rid of any resemblance of the Rebrand would be a start.

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:16 am

Always City wrote:
pipster wrote:The question needs to be - what would have happened if Tan had not invested ?

Would we have gone bust ?
Would we still have Sam Hammam in some capacity running the show ?
Who else would have been on the horizon to buy the club - I dont remember any multi millionaires being reported as wanting to invest ?

Like anyone with the benefit of hindsight - Tan would have done things differently - but it is what it is. At least we arent in League 2 with the JB's in the prem. And at least we are still trading. As a team we have been playing well - just that we dont have anyone up front who can put the ball in the net - which at the end of the day is all that matters.

Last night was the first time this season we have scored 2 goals at home - which is a pretty poor stat on the football and entertainment front.




Mate and look who we scored against a team that concedes the most goals, it was Ridsdale Tan bought the club from


It was not Ridsdale who VT bought the club off. Ridsdale never owned city, basically Ridsdale brought in Dato Chan Tien Ghee who invested and then he brought in Vincent Tan to invest and he then took over the rest is history!

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:19 am

Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?



Tan has had three offers, two from very wealthy buyers, but Tan is not holding on to Cardiff City for the love of the club but because he over values us. Three different parties all don’t agree with his valuation.

Tan Ida nightmare to do business with because in his country he always gets what he wants.

But over here he has lost virtually every court case due t the way he handled things costing our club beyond interest, fines and lawyers expenses.

Tans bad handling of our club over these 13yrs is where the money has been wasted, up to £50mill the rebrand cost us.
The Langston court case cost City an extra £10mill.

From Dave Jones sacking to Ole’s they cost us beyond £mills.


6 CEO’S & 12 managers.
5 managers in the last 3 yrs.

Etc etc

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:25 am

Igovernor wrote:
Always City wrote:
pipster wrote:The question needs to be - what would have happened if Tan had not invested ?

Would we have gone bust ?
Would we still have Sam Hammam in some capacity running the show ?
Who else would have been on the horizon to buy the club - I dont remember any multi millionaires being reported as wanting to invest ?

Like anyone with the benefit of hindsight - Tan would have done things differently - but it is what it is. At least we arent in League 2 with the JB's in the prem. And at least we are still trading. As a team we have been playing well - just that we dont have anyone up front who can put the ball in the net - which at the end of the day is all that matters.

Last night was the first time this season we have scored 2 goals at home - which is a pretty poor stat on the football and entertainment front.




Mate and look who we scored against a team that concedes the most goals, it was Ridsdale Tan bought the club from


It was not Ridsdale who VT bought the club off. Ridsdale never owned city, basically Ridsdale brought in Dato Chan Tien Ghee who invested and then he brought in Vincent Tan to invest and he then took over the rest is history!


PMG where the owners with Ridsdale as the middle man, i think.

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:53 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?



Tan has had three offers, two from very wealthy buyers, but Tan is not holding on to Cardiff City for the love of the club but because he over values us. Three different parties all don’t agree with his valuation.

Tan Ida nightmare to do business with because in his country he always gets what he wants.

But over here he has lost virtually every court case due t the way he handled things costing our club beyond interest, fines and lawyers expenses.

Tans bad handling of our club over these 13yrs is where the money has been wasted, up to £50mill the rebrand cost us.
The Langston court case cost City an extra £10mill.

From Dave Jones sacking to Ole’s they cost us beyond £mills.


6 CEO’S & 12 managers.
5 managers in the last 3 yrs.

Etc etc

The rebrand didn't cost 50 million ,basically Tan turned us red then put 100million in that season we got promoted .

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:04 am

At least we found out who ' Langstone ' was....

Earlier post by SamReam is bit weird unless the poster is either too young or not interested enough to check back and see we have actually played in different colours from blue before.

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:20 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?



Tan has had three offers, two from very wealthy buyers, but Tan is not holding on to Cardiff City for the love of the club but because he over values us. Three different parties all don’t agree with his valuation.

Tan Ida nightmare to do business with because in his country he always gets what he wants.

But over here he has lost virtually every court case due t the way he handled things costing our club beyond interest, fines and lawyers expenses.

Tans bad handling of our club over these 13yrs is where the money has been wasted, up to £50mill the rebrand cost us.
The Langston court case cost City an extra £10mill.

From Dave Jones sacking to Ole’s they cost us beyond £mills.


6 CEO’S & 12 managers.
5 managers in the last 3 yrs.

Etc etc

The rebrand didn't cost 50 million ,basically Tan turned us red then put 100million in that season we got promoted .


What did the £100million go on?

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:29 pm

JulesK wrote:At least we found out who ' Langstone ' was....

Earlier post by SamReam is bit weird unless the poster is either too young or not interested enough to check back and see we have actually played in different colours from blue before.

Hes only young i know his father and grand father ,he's only known the good times

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:30 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?



Tan has had three offers, two from very wealthy buyers, but Tan is not holding on to Cardiff City for the love of the club but because he over values us. Three different parties all don’t agree with his valuation.

Tan Ida nightmare to do business with because in his country he always gets what he wants.

But over here he has lost virtually every court case due t the way he handled things costing our club beyond interest, fines and lawyers expenses.

Tans bad handling of our club over these 13yrs is where the money has been wasted, up to £50mill the rebrand cost us.
The Langston court case cost City an extra £10mill.

From Dave Jones sacking to Ole’s they cost us beyond £mills.


6 CEO’S & 12 managers.
5 managers in the last 3 yrs.

Etc etc

The rebrand didn't cost 50 million ,basically Tan turned us red then put 100million in that season we got promoted .


What did the £100million go on?

Players and the massive promotion bonuses read the accounts .2012/13 accounts

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:35 pm

wez1927 wrote:
JulesK wrote:At least we found out who ' Langstone ' was....

Earlier post by SamReam is bit weird unless the poster is either too young or not interested enough to check back and see we have actually played in different colours from blue before.

Hes only young i know his father and grand father ,he's only known the good times

Jules, wez is correct here...

I know Sam and his family and used to travel to away games with them...

No longer season tixket holders but I know they have attended at least one game this season

Allowances need to be made for Sam but he is a good kid and his heart is in the right place :thumbup:

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:37 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?



Tan has had three offers, two from very wealthy buyers, but Tan is not holding on to Cardiff City for the love of the club but because he over values us. Three different parties all don’t agree with his valuation.

Tan Ida nightmare to do business with because in his country he always gets what he wants.

But over here he has lost virtually every court case due t the way he handled things costing our club beyond interest, fines and lawyers expenses.

Tans bad handling of our club over these 13yrs is where the money has been wasted, up to £50mill the rebrand cost us.
The Langston court case cost City an extra £10mill.

From Dave Jones sacking to Ole’s they cost us beyond £mills.


6 CEO’S & 12 managers.
5 managers in the last 3 yrs.

Etc etc



The rebrand didn't cost 50 million ,basically Tan turned us red then put 100million in that season we got promoted .



Yes it did in loss revenue, the change of the stadium in and out etc etc

I bet you will be proud to know we hold the record lowest ever sales in Premiership shirts, less than 5,000, even Wimbledon have beaten us from their day back. We had 10,000 made and ended up sending over 5,000 free to Africa.

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:48 pm

Of course tan wants gone, of course tan has lost interest in his toy, of course tan has cut back in spending, we just need to not be relegated

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:04 pm

Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
JulesK wrote:At least we found out who ' Langstone ' was....

Earlier post by SamReam is bit weird unless the poster is either too young or not interested enough to check back and see we have actually played in different colours from blue before.

Hes only young i know his father and grand father ,he's only known the good times

Jules, wez is correct here...

I know Sam and his family and used to travel to away games with them...

No longer season tixket holders but I know they have attended at least one game this season

Allowances need to be made for Sam but he is a good kid and his heart is in the right place :thumbup:


Chris, I am not having a go at the lad but it's not hard to check facts before posting especially by someone who obviously knows their way around a keyboard as there seems to be lots of * fake news * shall we call it about on here lately.
Just think his list was a tad one sided and as Wez says" he's only known the good times ".

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:08 pm

I doubt he seriously expects us make the play offs, but I doubt he'd consider offers whilst there's a 10% chance of reaching playoffs and a 2 or 3% chance of promotion.

The wage bill has been slashed, so the club is definitely more saleable than this time last year. It's been neglected, that's for sure, and unless Tan puts in some serious management structure, it will continue to languish .

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:07 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?



Tan has had three offers, two from very wealthy buyers, but Tan is not holding on to Cardiff City for the love of the club but because he over values us. Three different parties all don’t agree with his valuation.

Tan Ida nightmare to do business with because in his country he always gets what he wants.

But over here he has lost virtually every court case due t the way he handled things costing our club beyond interest, fines and lawyers expenses.

Tans bad handling of our club over these 13yrs is where the money has been wasted, up to £50mill the rebrand cost us.
The Langston court case cost City an extra £10mill.

From Dave Jones sacking to Ole’s they cost us beyond £mills.


6 CEO’S & 12 managers.
5 managers in the last 3 yrs.

Etc etc



The rebrand didn't cost 50 million ,basically Tan turned us red then put 100million in that season we got promoted .



Yes it did in loss revenue, the change of the stadium in and out etc etc

I bet you will be proud to know we hold the record lowest ever sales in Premiership shirts, less than 5,000, even Wimbledon have beaten us from their day back. We had 10,000 made and ended up sending over 5,000 free to Africa.

No way did the rebranding the stadium nd 10k nit used kits cost 50 million ,you plucked that figure out of the air come on annis be real .

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:08 pm

Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
JulesK wrote:At least we found out who ' Langstone ' was....

Earlier post by SamReam is bit weird unless the poster is either too young or not interested enough to check back and see we have actually played in different colours from blue before.

Hes only young i know his father and grand father ,he's only known the good times

Jules, wez is correct here...

I know Sam and his family and used to travel to away games with them...

No longer season tixket holders but I know they have attended at least one game this season

Allowances need to be made for Sam but he is a good kid and his heart is in the right place :thumbup:

Hes from a very good family that Sam. His grandfather was a Birmingham fan for years but always supported us his local team .

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:10 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Einstein wrote:I have a question for everyone who are slagging Tan off...

What would good look like to you from Tan?

Ok I know you're going to say sell us, but to whom?



Tan has had three offers, two from very wealthy buyers, but Tan is not holding on to Cardiff City for the love of the club but because he over values us. Three different parties all don’t agree with his valuation.

Tan Ida nightmare to do business with because in his country he always gets what he wants.

But over here he has lost virtually every court case due t the way he handled things costing our club beyond interest, fines and lawyers expenses.

Tans bad handling of our club over these 13yrs is where the money has been wasted, up to £50mill the rebrand cost us.
The Langston court case cost City an extra £10mill.

From Dave Jones sacking to Ole’s they cost us beyond £mills.


6 CEO’S & 12 managers.
5 managers in the last 3 yrs.

Etc etc

The rebrand didn't cost 50 million ,basically Tan turned us red then put 100million in that season we got promoted .


What did the £100million go on?

Players and the massive promotion bonuses read the accounts .2012/13 accounts


About £10m on platers. The rest on debts.

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:54 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
JulesK wrote:At least we found out who ' Langstone ' was....

Earlier post by SamReam is bit weird unless the poster is either too young or not interested enough to check back and see we have actually played in different colours from blue before.

Hes only young i know his father and grand father ,he's only known the good times

Jules, wez is correct here...

I know Sam and his family and used to travel to away games with them...

No longer season tixket holders but I know they have attended at least one game this season

Allowances need to be made for Sam but he is a good kid and his heart is in the right place :thumbup:

Hes from a very good family that Sam. His grandfather was a Birmingham fan for years but always supported us his local team .

Wez, Brian (from Bromsgrove) was a striker on Birmingham City's books and a good one to boot...

As I said, I know the family well and they are a lovely group. Thanks to Brian, I have more than once acted as chauffeur and enjoyed hospitality at The Villa (v City) through Brian's many life-long friends and contacts

Sam is a good kid and just wants to be involved with all things Bluebird... :ayatollah:

Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:44 pm

Summed up perfectly.
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Re: VINCENT TAN: “THE FANS SHOULD BE HAPPY”

Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:53 am

Yes the fans are very happy that’s why the stadium is virtually empty on match days and their is No atmosphere.